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hamei
From over the rainbow
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Wrote on the subject of Cars (was SGI "Octane" III) at Oct. 4, 2009, 8:22 p.m...
iKitsune wrote: Ford Crown Victora Police Interceptor. Fun, fast, safe, and affordable by mortals.

I can still identify a Dodge Polara in the mirror from a good mile away :( Having a cop car parked in the garage would give me nightmares. Christine II, anybody ?
hamei
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Wrote on the subject of Cars (was SGI "Octane" III) at Oct. 5, 2009, 2:22 a.m...
Dr. Dave wrote: - Hood longer than most microcars these days

That one made me laugh. I drove a '67 Eldo for a few years. I'd pull up to a light, look over at the car next to me and be looking at the trunk. We were all set for emergencies, it had a helicopter landing pad on the hood :D
hamei
From over the rainbow
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Wrote on the subject of Nekochan.net operating costs? at Oct. 5, 2009, 7:57 a.m...
nekonoko wrote: Thanks for the support. My enthusiasm for the site is at an all-time low right now, but I'll keep plugging away at it. Hopefully it will become fun again in the future.

I would suggest putting Martin's planetarium up on the ol' Tez and just watch it for w ahile. Zoom in on individual planets, twist them around, I dunno. I could play with that program for hours ... Maybe I can twist Martin's arm to put together an Earth-specific version. Different visuals, change rotation speed, map the sun and clouds onto the surface. That's such a nifty program, totally Irixian in character.

Or you could play graveyard shift, which is always a kick :P
hamei
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Wrote on the subject of neko perl spamassassin at Oct. 6, 2009, 10:54 a.m...
Well, that was interesting .... my O2 runs at 1440 x 900 so I thought I'd give it a shot from home. Found out I didn't have glut installed so got that. Gave the executable a double-click and wham ! computer locked up tighter than a Shanghai Princess' pocketbook. Not the desktop, the entire thing. Vulcan death grip failed, power button failed, I had to pull its life support cord. Sumbitch.

Got it back running again, since Mom is a Republican I guess stupidity is inherited. I gave it another try, this time from a terminal. Wham ! locked up instantly again. I was hoping that just that app would freeze and I could close the terminal window but no such luck. Same thing, nothing did nothin', had to cut off her vital bodily fluids to shut down. Damn commies are everywhere.

This is an r5k-350 O2 running 6.5.22, graphics is 1440 x 900, neko glut (the latest one, forget what rev.)
hamei
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Wrote on the subject of neko perl spamassassin at Oct. 6, 2009, 8:40 p.m...
Martin Steen wrote: I'm very sorry to hear that !

'sokay, that's why they call it 'testing' :) Someone else with an O2 should give it a spin tho, could be just my setup. Surprised me that it locked up that hard.
hamei
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Wrote on the subject of PMC RM7000C-600T CPUs on ebay at Oct. 7, 2009, 11:15 p.m...
edefault wrote:
The staff at the repair shop told me that if BGA CPUs grow old unsoldered due to oxidation of contacts the soldering process becomes more difficult.
Anyway, it is controlled optically afterwards using x-ray; but one can´t use a bare CPU twice if there were short-cuts detected since reballing is much too expensive.

How complex is that board, edefault ? There are hungry people in Guangdong these days. Those boards are a little rare and expensive, plus they are old. Complete new ones might be cheaper and better ? Not that hard to reverse engineer even a six-layer, throw them in a surface grinder and take off .010", photograph, take off another .010" and photograph, etc etc.

900's would be even spiffier tho :D
hamei
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Wrote on the subject of PMC RM7000C-600T CPUs on ebay at Oct. 8, 2009, 9:54 a.m...
mapesdhs wrote:
I make a loss on my hobbyist pricing.

That's why I was thinking brand new boards would be the way to go. Starting out with a $125 used board then going thru all the hand labour to de-populate it, then solder on another chip, then check and recheck because all the parts were used, that's got to be a lot more work than starting with new components.

The prom data would make this a real winner tho. I myself am kind of iffy at 600 but 900 ... I know, performance is not all about processor speed but still ...
hamei
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Wrote on the subject of Please help! Cannot log in. tset: unknown terminal type at Oct. 8, 2009, 8:42 p.m...
nekobean wrote:
I may try xfs_repair from the miniroot, but I still suspect something less intrusive should fix the problem.

You might try adding a new user from the gui and see what kind of results you get. Either it will work and you can compare files or it won't and you might get error messages.

Worth a try, maybe ...
hamei
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Wrote on the subject of PMC RM7000C-600T CPUs on ebay at Oct. 9, 2009, 5:36 a.m...
mapesdhs wrote:
Joe said he could do it but only if he had the original PROM source. He was offered kind help from PMC and Sandcraft in this regard should the opportunity arise, and IBM gave him some tech help aswell on cache issues. It's perfectly doable, but for the PROM source. Ah well, plenty of other SGI-related things to occupy our time...

I wonder what they hope to achieve by this dog in the manger attitude ? I don't mean "release the code ! Free Prommy !" I mean qualified people who are willing to sign non-disclosures. It's a small amount of effort for them in return for a reasonable gain. Yeah, I know, "if it doesn't help the bottom line then in today's economy they can't afford to waste their efforts."

Except it's a helluva lot different story when they want acceptance from the Linux community, when they want to shitcan all the people who paid good money for Irix, when they want something requiring good will and a positive attitude and unpaid efforts from other people (such as a complete free operating system which they planned to use for their own financial advantage, ahem.)

Maybe I'm an idiot optimist. I'd like to believe until proven wrong that the new management is not quite as avaricious and short-sighted as the previous group of proven fools. Perhaps some people inside the new SGI can see the value in having enthusiastic hobbyists doing things to enhance the SGI mystique and reputation.

Perhaps.
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hamei
From over the rainbow
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Wrote on the subject of beta: freetype2 2.4.9 at Oct. 9, 2009, 6:50 a.m...
Works nicely on the Fuel, V12 6.5.30 neko_glut. I'll try it on the O2 later.

I wonder if you could reverse the action of the scroll button ? It's backwards from the way zoom works on any other apps I have ...

You know what would be useless but neat ? Pipe the output from sound to act as input. i always liked that rotating drum equalizer demo thing. This is even spiffier.

thank you.
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hamei
From over the rainbow
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Wrote on the subject of beta: freetype2 2.4.9 at Oct. 10, 2009, 7:29 p.m...
Martin Steen wrote: here is another little interactive OpenGL demo.

Whatever you are doing, Martin, you have found a guaranteed method for discovering the 350 mhz r5k bug :) Blows my O2 right off the planet, instantly. Maybe canavan can confirm ?

Interesting that it doesn't affect the 600 mhz O2 (per tomo's post). Is the problem in the cpu itself ? Maybe SGI wants to sue MIPS for damages, your appplication can be Exhibit A :D
hamei
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Wrote on the subject of Octane / Dual Head at Oct. 11, 2009, 7:40 a.m...
GeneratriX wrote:
Also, since they have two inputs each, I've configured another dual-head box with the same displays using my Ubuntu PeeCee with the spare inputs from each monitor. It appears comfortable.

Do you use the Bunty PeeCee much ? If you do, that setup looks like Teleffect / Synergy could be a nice arrangement.
hamei
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Wrote on the subject of Octane / Dual Head at Oct. 11, 2009, 9:27 a.m...
GeneratriX wrote:
So, what do you think about my two new thingies?

They will look nicer when you get an adapter on at least one and the Octane up and running :D

With a double head setup like yours, do you have to run both grafix cards at the same resolution ? You do with a dcd but yours has two complete graphics systems ...
hamei
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Wrote on the subject of New MIPS based handheld at Oct. 13, 2009, 3:08 a.m...
R-ten-K wrote: I hope the days of certain companies thinking that developing for their platforms should be treated as a privilege are numbered.

Sure didn't help one certain company we know of, did it ? :twisted:
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Wrote on the subject of favicon.ico at Oct. 24, 2009, 8:49 p.m...
A new one would be nice but isn't the current one a shrunken reminder of the older graphic - the neko girl swinging a sword horizontally ? That was a pretty nice design as well. Or I liked it, anyway.

Disclaimer : IANAA :D
hamei
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Wrote on the subject of Fractal benchmark at Oct. 25, 2009, 5:20 a.m...
ShadeOfBlue wrote:
Now I only need to draw a schematic, order the parts and build it :)
Does anyone know of any good schematic drawing programs for IRIX?


This was once a c program and had Irix binaries. If you think it looks good enough I can scrounge around and see if I still have it.

http://www.staticfreesoft.com/manual/
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Wrote on the subject of macbook nekochan login loop at Oct. 25, 2009, 6:49 a.m...
Was outside several days last week, tried to use the Assist's Macbook. Could go to nekochan and login. Then as soon as I tried anything it looped me right back to the login screen. This is an Intel Macbook, about 13." Whichever OS X came on it a year ago, using Safari.

Anyone else have this happen ? No trouble with Fireflop on either Windows or irix. Cookies on, Javascript on, nothing I can think of that would do this ?
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Wrote on the subject of macbook nekochan login loop at Oct. 25, 2009, 7:48 a.m...
How to get to a terminal in OS X ? It's in chinese as well, so life is not so easy :(

We'll be off to luoyangang wednesday, will try again there. Thanks for the hints.
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Wrote on the subject of macbook nekochan login loop at Oct. 26, 2009, 7:31 a.m...
ShadeOfBlue wrote:
You could also try resetting Safari with the "Reset Safari..." option from the Safari menu.

What does that look like in chinese ? :D
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Wrote on the subject of macbook nekochan login loop at Oct. 26, 2009, 10:08 a.m...
recondas wrote:
Was the assistant on strike <or just worried you'd fubar her Mac Book>? :D

The latter. If she's anywhere near when I touch the precious MacBook it looks like the Rumble in the Jungle. :(
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Wrote on the subject of favicon.ico at Oct. 31, 2009, 7:10 p.m...
nekonoko wrote:
Absolutely, positively no freaking way. Period, end of story.

Thank you :D
hamei
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Wrote on the subject of macbook nekochan login loop at Nov. 1, 2009, 6:56 p.m...
nekonoko wrote:
Whatever the problem is, it's certainly not universal. I run 10.6.1 with Safari 4.0.3 and haven't seen any login loops.

My guess is its a bug in Safari but I'm not allowed near the Macbook too much, so whatever the problem is will probably remain a mystery. Maybe we need a netbook, the Mac is just too big to be draggng all over the country.
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Wrote on the subject of macbook nekochan login loop at Nov. 2, 2009, 9:57 a.m...
porter wrote:
Perhaps it's the Great Firewall Of China?

Nah. When the gfw gets in the way you just can't get there. Someday I have to get a vpn to the great outdoors.
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Wrote on the subject of z9... at Nov. 4, 2009, 3:21 a.m...
R-ten-K wrote:
IBM's licensing for their big iron is a complete PITA from a hobbyist point of view. But then again, I don't think they ever assumed anyone would run one of these things at home.

Heck, they assumed no one would run an IBM peecee at home :D
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Wrote on the subject of z9... at Nov. 5, 2009, 5:56 p.m...
kjaer wrote:
Congratulations, you just bought a boat.

Are you referring to the two happiest days in a person's life ? The day they buy a boat, and the day they sell the boat ? :D
hamei
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Wrote on the subject of Firefox 3.0.15 Gran Paradiso first run at Nov. 5, 2009, 10:40 p.m...
<aol mode> me, too ! </aol mode> :D

zmttoxics wrote:
Are you doing forwarding to run it? I am a little confused looking at the ubuntu ui...

Origin 200 = server, no graphics.
hamei
From over the rainbow
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Wrote on the subject of eBay: Now This IS a Cheap Tezro... at Nov. 12, 2009, 12:29 a.m...
nekonoko wrote: It's like a box of chocolates :)

My mom used to poke holes in the bottom of every one to see what was inside. :shock:
hamei
From over the rainbow
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Wrote on the subject of MaXX Desktop DR3 at Nov. 13, 2009, 6:33 p.m...
maxxi.desktop wrote: I would love to get more real hardcore IRIX guys on MaXX's site... See that as a logical continuation of IRIX legacy,but with a modern twist to it !

I wish it ran on Linux-mips ... there's a couple netbooks out there that could make a lifelong fantasy come true (close as it ever will, anyhow.)
hamei
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Wrote on the subject of What IBM hardware do we have..? at Nov. 14, 2009, 2:48 a.m...
kjaer wrote: Hoo boy.

Definitely :D

You need a PC110 to bookend with the AS/400 !
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Wrote on the subject of Plotting... at Nov. 20, 2009, 1:47 a.m...
edefault wrote:
In theory, there is X11 on both systems which is famed for a complete separation of a program and its GUI; practically I never saw any application from a Mac show up on my IRIX desktop nor vice versa.

Really ? It's not very difficult. I've done it a fair amount between computers running Solaris, Irix and OS/2 but never with a Mackletosh.

Quote:
Since I have apps here that are stuck to IRIX I´d very much like them to show up on the Mac's desktop.
Did I miss something here eventually?

The trouble I've had in that direction is some errors about SGI extensions not being available on the other platform. Solaris and OS/2 showed up without a hitch on the Irix computer tho. It's not all Irix apps, just some. Perhaps if some of the people making Linux run on an O2 wanted to do something useful instead they could add those extensions to X/Free86.
hamei
From over the rainbow
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Wrote on the subject of Nekoware-current at Nov. 20, 2009, 6:38 a.m...
Been running these about a week now with no obvious ill effects :

atk 1.28.0
freetype2 2.3.11
pango 1.26.0

have fontconfig 2.3.2 installed, when I attempt to install 2.7.3 I get

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1. neko_fontconfig.sw.lib cannot be installed becacsue of missing prerequisites
Also install neko_freetype2.sw.lib

2.meko_fontconfig.sw.eoe cannot be installed becasue of missing prrequisites
Also install neko_freetype2.sw.lib


Also, I see that i have libtool 2.2.6a and libtool 1.5.26 installed, altho that might be on purpose ? Libtool 2 does not merely update libtool 1, I'd imagine ?

Cairo is at 1.6.4 which compiles fine, newer versions do not :( Cairo is up to 1.8.8 or 1.9.2, depending on your bravery ... nekoware appears to be downlevel but I got this from nekoware so it must be a beta that wasn't acepted. Seems to be okay tho.
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Wrote on the subject of Nekoware-current at Nov. 21, 2009, 2:27 a.m...
dexter1 wrote:
You sure? I'm running 1.8.8 on my dev system. What's the problem with your compiles?

Just tried it again ... these are just the errors, not the dozens of warnings :
Code:

cc-1020 cc: ERROR File = cairoint.h, Line = 820
The identifier "pixman_format_code_t" is undefined.

pixman_format_code_t pixman_format;
^

cc-1020 cc: ERROR File = cairoint.h, Line = 2000
The identifier "pixman_format_code_t" is undefined.

pixman_format_code_t       pixman_format);
^

cc-1020 cc: ERROR File = cairoint.h, Line = 2004
The identifier "pixman_format_code_t" is undefined.

pixman_format_code_t *format_ret);
^

cc-1020 cc: ERROR File = cairoint.h, Line = 2007
The identifier "pixman_format_code_t" is undefined.

_pixman_format_to_masks (pixman_format_code_t  pixman_format,
^

cc-1020 cc: ERROR File = cairoint.h, Line = 2012
The identifier "pixman_format_code_t" is undefined.

pixman_format_code_t     pixman_format,
^

cc-1020 cc: ERROR File = cairo-region-private.h, Line = 50
The identifier "pixman_region32_t" is undefined.

pixman_region32_t rgn;
^

cc-1020 cc: ERROR File = cairo-region-private.h, Line = 110
The identifier "pixman_region_overlap_t" is undefined.

cairo_private pixman_region_overlap_t
^


cc-1020 cc: ERROR File = cairo-analysis-surface.c, Line = 218
The identifier "PIXMAN_REGION_IN" is undefined.

if (_cairo_region_contains_rectangle (&surface->fallback_region, rect) == PIXMAN_REGION_IN)
^

cc-1020 cc: ERROR File = cairo-analysis-surface.c, Line = 229
The identifier "PIXMAN_REGION_OUT" is undefined.

if (_cairo_region_contains_rectangle (&surface->supported_region, rect) == PIXMAN_REGION_OUT)
^

9 errors detected in the compilation of "cairo-analysis-surface.c".
gmake[3]: *** [cairo-analysis-surface.lo] Error 1
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/people/dev/cairo-1.8.8/src'
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/people/dev/cairo-1.8.8/src'
gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/people/dev/cairo-1.8.8'
gmake: *** [all] Error 2


Rec or somebody, maybe want to split this off after the dexter has seen it ?
hamei
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Wrote on the subject of Realsoft 3D v5.1 for IRIX at Dec. 5, 2009, 3:53 a.m...
skywriter wrote:
no matter how you dress this pig up; i still like blender.

and I like Pro/e .... do you s'pose we'll end up in the same corner of Hell ? :D
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Wrote on the subject of Realsoft 3D v5.1 for IRIX at Dec. 5, 2009, 7:14 a.m...
skywriter wrote:
hamei wrote:
and I like Pro/e .... do you s'pose we'll end up in the same corner of Hell ? :D

nah, i'll be in the 8'th circle for managers, you'll be in the 1'st with the janitors. ;)

At least my circle will be clean :P
hamei
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Wrote on the subject of Good use for an old Indy: MPD (Music Player Daemon) box at Dec. 12, 2009, 8:58 p.m...
bviking wrote:

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indy 20# mpd
21163:mpd: rld: Fatal Error: Cannot Successfully map soname 'libFLAC.so.5' version 'sgi5.2' under any of the filenames /usr/nekoware/lib/libFLAC.so.5:/usr/lib32/libFLAC.so.5:/usr/lib32/internal/libFLAC.so.5:/lib32/libFLAC.so.5:/opt/lib32/libFLAC.so.5:/usr/nekoware/lib
/libFLAC.so.5.5:/usr/lib32/libFLAC.so.5.5:/usr/lib32/internal/libFLAC.so.5.5:/lib32/libFLAC.so.5.5:/opt/lib32/libFLAC.so.5.5:


Do a "Find" for libFLAC ? If it's not there, then you are missing a library. If it is, then this might be one of those cases for LD_LIBRARYN32_PATH. There's a current thread about that.

Unless you are particularly attached to MPD, ritchan's suggestion is probably a good one.
hamei
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Wrote on the subject of Origin 350: 16xR16K 700MHz, 4GB RAM at Dec. 13, 2009, 12:02 a.m...
recondas wrote: < so I can share a single keyboard and mouse between the Onyx 300, Onyx 350, a PC and a Mac >.

I hate to say this, but have you guys considered the possibility that maybe you're getting a little carried away ? :shock:
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Wrote on the subject of SGI 750 Itanium workstation at Dec. 13, 2009, 12:06 a.m...
pierocks wrote: Yeah, I don't know what it is but plastic air shrouds say "finished product" to me, while "functionally required foam" screams "half-assed engineering" :-) In reality, they are probably equally as effective *shrug*

I bet the foam works better. It should deaden some noise, too.
hamei
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Wrote on the subject of Good use for an old Indy: MPD (Music Player Daemon) box at Dec. 13, 2009, 12:55 a.m...
bviking wrote: Thanks for the suggestions.
I have libFLAC.so.9 in /usr/nekoware/lib.
It seems that libFLAC.so.5 is expected.

Quick and dirty ? make a link, rename it with the wrong number and try it.
hamei
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Wrote on the subject of Good use for an old Indy: MPD (Music Player Daemon) box at Dec. 13, 2009, 4:21 a.m...
bviking wrote: Hmm. Thanks for the suggestion, but unfortunately no cigar - I still get the same output.

Did a couple things, maybe can save you a few moments :

Searched for libFLAC.so.5, I don't have it either. Judging by the original post, perhaps the op compiled it with his mpd.

Did a quick download of xmms2,

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fewel 17% ./waf configure --prefix=/usr/testware -p
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "./waf", line 11, in <module>
imp.load_source("waf","waf-light")
File "waf-light", line 126, in <module>
import Scripting
File "/usr/people/me/sata/xmms2/wafadmin/Scripting.py", line 7, in <module>
import os, sys, shutil, traceback, time
ImportError: No module named time

Piss on them from a great height. Maybe I'll give mpd a shot a little later.

Edit :

Went here, there's been a lot of recent work on MPD

http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Music_Player_Daemon_Wiki

grabbed the source for the server, it compiled out of the box.. Yippee. Someone with a brain. Didn't try any of the clients. Xmms2, you may lick my sweaty nutsack.

bviking, do you have a compiler ? There are a ton of options from which you might want to choose. I could email you the server demon but it would be better if you set it up the way you want. Or maybe we could get canavan involved in this ? He's good with all the audio stuff. I'm just a buffoon beating the ground with a stick as far as coding goes.
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Wrote on the subject of SGI 750 Itanium workstation at Dec. 13, 2009, 9:22 a.m...
pierocks wrote: Probably so, but at the same time it manages to look like packing material :-)

It's funny how different people get different impressions. When I opened an O300 and saw that stuff I immediately thought, "Damn, what a good idea ! Cheap to make, light weight, easy to put in and take out, insulating, sound deadening, does a better job at lower cost, somebody had their head on straight for this one !"

And you guys all think it's cheap crap :?