The collected works of hamei - Page 15

VenomousPinecone wrote: I don't share your pessimism.

Move to China :)

The US is kind of scary, too. It's been thirty years, guys. You've been bled dry for three decades. Figure out who the enemy is. Hint : has three letters and it's not the Communists hiding under your beds.

I'm sorry but people do not seem very smart. Even worse, they don't seem to learn. But they can sure wreck stuff (e.g., Gulf of Mexico.)
MAKHNO wrote:
GCC 4.3.1 is in Nekoware - I did see a lot of discussion around here in regards to MIPSpro being better than GCC, but since it seems to be a very big task of rewriting the source code from GCC to MIPSpro, I would rather have a GCC version of blender 2.5 with a performance hit, than none at all.

FFMPEG 3 is also part of nekoware

There's the problem right there. It's not so much that gcc is bad as it is that gcc builds and nekoware don't mix. There's been a lot of discussion about that in the past but you'd have to search back to the beginning of nekoware for the reasons.

About your "gcc source" and "MIPSPro source" comment, ummm, that's a subject for heated discussions.
vishnu wrote:
It does seem complicated at first, but if you stick with it before long you'll be amazed you ever thought it was hard!

Good questions get good answers is another problem ...

About the blender crash, it seems to me that the blender in nekoware needs a blend file in the same directory or it crashes upon opening. I'm sure there's a topic around here to that effect and a downloadable blend file which solves that error.

The documentation for Irix is very readable and very thorough.
plener wrote:
yes it is but the reality is something else

If we were talking about Solaris I'd have to agree with you :) but not Irix. What it says is how it works.
clavileno wrote:
So, in the context of a market economy, we do, in fact, need the rich in order to provide (some of the) jobs for the poor!

Sorry but you do not understand a "market economy" in the slightest. The wealthy do not do shit to advance an economy. They are pretty much parasites. There will always be the wealthy and they do provide nice decorations but almost ALL advances come from the middle class.

Wealthy people and companies do not create anything new : they manipulate whatever comes along to provide the maximum profit for themselves and kill anything that interferes with their own selfish desires in the process. It's the middle class which is the "market economy." Crush the middle class and you get Mexico or China or India.

Please, people, use your own brains and eyes instead of just regurgitating the swill you've been fed by the CEO's and Wall Street brokers.
clavileno wrote:
Ah-hem, thank you for that. Contrary to what you may think, I've spent many decades using my eyes, ears, and brain to examine the world and form my own opinions. Those opinions may not match yours, but that is the way of the world, and it would be a pretty dull place if we all agreed on everything.

Whether we like it or not, the desire for wealth has facilitated some of the most important technological advances. Without the desire for wealth, there would have been no industrial revolution, no explosion in technology and, yes, no SGI. Without access to existing wealth (capital), those advances would have been slower coming.

The market economy provides efficient means by which wealth may be acquired, and products / services distributed. Without a market economy, wealth creation becomes more difficult; without some pre-existing wealth, a dynamic market economy cannot realistically flourish. At least, it cannot in the longer term; in the short term there has, of late, always been borrowing.

Where you see parasites, I see self-interest on the part of some participants in an efficient market. Just as a mixture of abilities, of resources, of means, and so on is important to both the diversity and the movement of the economy (and, lest we forget, it is economic entropy which keeps things moving), so the varied motivations and ambitions of the market's participants also stimulate movement and development.

Now, socially - or at least, politically - it may be expedient (or even desirable!) to limit or otherwise temper by regulation the operation of some market participants, so as to allow the market to meet other, not-necessarily-market-related goals. But that is the role of the regulation; the lack of self-regulation on the part of individual participants does not render them somehow deficient or deserving of our ire, in my opinion at least.

To brand "the wealthy" "parasites" is as pointless as calling "the poor" "lazy" or "stupid". Each participant (in society, as in the market economy) plays their part, within constraints both of their own making and imposed by others. We all need (almost) all of the various types and flavours of participants; remove some, and the rest operates - at best - inefficiently.

Hogwash and sophistry. Believe these fairy tales all you like but in fact, they are pure nonsense. We've had 30 years of this crap and look where we are directly because of it. Greed is not good.

Nothing but corruption comes from avarice and that's been true even before King Midas.
Zuluchas was offering a chassis. There's always the 'put it together from parts' approach.
sybrfreq wrote: What's that saying, it's not about the destination, it's about the journey... I learn new things and get stronger every day.

Then towards the end of the journey you forget a few old things and get a little weaker each day :D
fu wrote:
dizzy is my man, muppet-proof talk @3:26

I love the Nureyev show with Miss Piggy .... cracks me up every single time.
MisterDNA wrote:
So I guess I'm clear to wipe the drive and reload standard IRIX for resale of the machine, then?

It would seem there's no value in keeping the Discreet software on there in this form.


Drives are cheap. I'd pull the DIscreet drive and set it aside just in case something came along later ...
He was real, like the velveteen rabbit ....
fu wrote:
shhh, remind me to dig into my mother's archive for some rare footage when i get back to nyc

I'll hold you to that one :)
sybrfreq wrote:
The american government is too broke to afford a street vendor's hotdog, yet they feel they have the right to bust into peoples homes and do whatever the hell they want for pretty much any reason whatsoever. That's Freedom, with a capitol F.

You don't get it, sybr. The american government is not too broke to afford anything. There's plenty of money, all in the hands of Wall Street traders, investment banking CEO accounts and insurance company piles of gold. There is so much emphasis on stupid crap because the general population is so easily distracted by idiotic non-issues. "Child" pornography (who was queen of england, married to John at twelve or something, typical of the time ?), abortion (right to life puh-lease), more money spent on prisons in the "land of the free" than on education, billions of dollars and thousands of people murdered over a witch hunt and documented FBI lie about a plant ? It's all a distraction and y'all are so easily distracted.

When the stupid American populace bothers to figure out that the finance "industry" has robbed them blind once again and actually does something about it (such as hanging the thieving bastards from trees until we have Gucci-clad forests) rather than spending their efforts railing against liberals and socialists and nonbleevers, then you'll see progress.

You people are nuts, have no sense of priorities and get exactly the government and economy you deserve. "We need wealthy people to give jobs to poor people" haysoos h kristos. The place is doomed.
Runs fine on Fuel , by the way. There was a free download at one time, I think. Details in the sgi newsgroups archives.
Martin Steen wrote:
I have to clean up the code before I show it to the public.

I keep the door to my bedroom closed, too :D
fu wrote:

oh damn :( One more real person gone, his place to be filled by some vacuous yuppy. Hooray, service economy.
fu wrote:
i envy my grandparents who died naturally in their sleep, no medical cabling, tubes, pacemakers, chemotherapy and soup o' pills for them, just a good night's sleep…

dear science, please fix this!

Take the cure from Nancy Reagan and Just Say No !

Adults recognize their own mortality.
rvic wrote:
I'm sorry ... it IS in the ftp ... :) Thanks neko !
It seems it's the last copy of it ... uhhh
Excellent

In case you need it, the free license key is

FREE-3212152E-0000D3FD735AC3D7

the xaudio people posted that somewhere a long time ago so shouldn't be piracy or anything like that.
dir_marillion wrote:
If someone could teach me or could prepare a quick guide for building Mips4 packages.?.?.


http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/index.php/ ... g_Software
josehill wrote:
Oooh! Shiny!

That's called entrapment.
R-ten-K wrote:
It makes sense, since Google is right now basically competing with Microsoft in almost all their product markets. So I assume they rather eat their own dog food than give business to Microsoft.

Yay R-10 ! happy to see you (figuratively speaking.)

Yeah, too bad SGI wasn't half as smart. They might have figured out that being able to read and write the occasional Word document even on a workstation was a desirable thing.
sybrfreq wrote:
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I was surprised because such unnecessary detail probably makes the PDF file larger than it needs to be
Maybe they did it on purpose: back in the day, it was a neat animation of the machine being built while the image was loaded. :mrgreen:

Betcha fifty cents this is an artifact of standard methods. You design your stuff as a 3d model in Pro/e or Catia or I-DEAS (Unigraphics if your company is retarded). Then you use that model for everything. Why should they duplicate work making illustration drawings when they already had 3d models accurate to tenths ? That was the whole point of 3d modelling.
fu wrote:
...like a cat on a hot tin roof

Oh yes ! Just watched Seven Year Itch on the aeroplane. Pretty nice. I would even allow crackers :D
pentium wrote:
This isn't the kind of thing you can catch with a screenshot. ;)

Pentium, how long have you been using Irix ?

Toolchest -> Find -> Icon Catalog -> Media Tools -> Media Recorder -> (bottom left) Source -> Image from Screen.

Viola, cello and double bass, bob's yer uncle.

This ain't Windows, good buddy.

catch ya on the flipflop
Guys ?

START WITH THE BASICS.


You need a keyboard and mouse attached to get graphics mode. Real ones, not some fly-by-night adapters. Keyboard and mouse that you know work. Make sure they are plugged into the correct sockets - wrong-plugging will also screw up an O2.

Then check your startup prom settings. Then check your graphics resolution settings to make sure the monitor can handle what you're running.

If all that fails then worry about the more complicated stuff.
sybrfreq wrote:
He said he was using it on an IBM PC.

Jesus. I had this problem up in haerbin once. We put in a 25,000 lb, 25 hp horizontal machining center with 400 ipm rapids and exceptional accuracy. The company insisted on using a bunch of crapped-out old Roosky manual machines to rough everything because they didn't want to wear out the expensive cnc machine. We were cutting aluminum ...

Pent ? Ditch the effing Winshit. You've got the good stuff there, I've seen your sig.
A new Argentina!
The chains of the masses untied !


Looks like great fun, General. Hope you all had a good time :D
Looking over that foredeck brings back fond memories of driving the '67 Eldorado :D
R-ten-K wrote:
I wonder what was the author's criteria to define "good vs. bad" languages.

The ones he likes vs the one he dislikes, if he's human :D
recondas wrote:
The suit-n-tie/bean counter/responsible person <except for the suit-n-tie I'm not sure which fits best> who I communicated with while negotiating transfer of the system told me "absolutely not" ....

You probably neglected to give the secret MBA handshake ... next time, grab your dick in both hands and mark your territory while yodelling like Tarzan. It's kind of a manager in-group thing ...
Okay le, I'm reading up on the SGI Compositor here

http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/tpl/cgi ... /ch01.html

and it looks very nifty, similar to Infinite Reality for us lesser beings. Lo and behold, if I do a /usr/gfx/sgcombine on the Fool up jumps the devil, software is installed already and it works well enough to mess around. The whole thing appears to be very trick BUT what's the point ? The output from this device is a single DVI connector. My understanding was that a single DVI connector is good for 1920 x 1200 max. Maybe a smidge more if you drop the refresh rate. So here's a very cool device that will take four graphics pipes, arrange them however you want, then output the thing onto a napkin ?

Is this an Alice in Wonderland gag or something ? .
bri3d wrote: ... the idea isn't to get higher resolution but rather additional complexity (by splitting one complex scene into four).

Four little postage stamps, whoop de doo. At the time this thing was designed there were already 2k projectors available and probably 4k ones so they go with a 640 x 480 CGA display. Be still, my heart !

This thing is 95% of a great idea. What the hell were they smoking ?
dc_v01 wrote:
... in the mid-'90s, even the secretaries, sorry office administrators, in the Sacramento sales office used Indys. Took their notes in jot. Salespeople used Showcase.

Far from being impressed, I actually felt sorry for them.

dc, you're letting the grey cells rewrite history. In the mid-nineties you had NT 3.5 and Windows 3.1 (Lose 95 wasn't released until almost '96) There was no reason to feel sorry for people using jot and Showcase ... I still save my work every five minutes because of that mid-nineties Windows trauma. Let us never forget that until Windows 2000, Microsoft products were ghastly abominable sewage.
yominokagerou wrote:
But Altix 350 do not have Graphics Card Option.

That's exactly right..

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What do you know what altix used in?

You got it correct the first time. Altixes don't have graphics.
sybrfreq wrote:
It's one thing to buy a knockoff purse or eyeglasses or something like that, but don't the people of china realize that this thing won't work nearly as well as a real iPad?

It might work better. Oh, the quality will be crap but the biggest drawback I see to a real iPad is being stuck with Apple applications and that effing iTunes. If this is simply the form factor of an iPad with the functionality of a netbook, maybe it's okay.

btw, the "people of china" couldn't care less if anything works or not, as long as it's cheap. This is why over 65% of all the exports from China come from foreign-owned factories. China will never be competitive at anything except cheap crap. You've been robbed of a society by your own people.

Ain't globalization grand ?
sybrfreq wrote:
I thought that was precisely the appeal of the iPad: the itunes/apple OS and the fact that everything worked properly.

I have to wonder. Definitely not for me. Oh, it's better than Windows but it's the physical design that I like. OS X, who cares ? Same-o same-o. If it ran BeOS or Irix I'd have one already.

The iTunes schtick is the real killer for me. They can forget that ****, I already did timesharing and terminals and won't return.
skywriter wrote:
it's instructive to note that this was preciously the viewpoint everyone had of japan throughout the first 1/3 of the 1900's. japan managed to turn that situation around 180 degree's in the 60's. what should be feared is if china wakes up and manages to pull the same economic turn-around.

Sky, I beg to differ. You're right, that's what everyone said. And it's Common Wisdom now to make this claim.

But China and Japan and Taiwan and Korea have NEVER been the same. The claim is stupid on all levels.

China has 1.4 billion people. Taiwan, Korea, Japan maybe 100 million total among all three ? This alone creates huge differences.

China has been Confucian for 2,000 years. Korea never, Japan never, Taiwan had to drop that or die. Confucian thinking does not work in the modern world. Worse, they tried to drop master kong from the fifties thru the eighties but have now returned to feudalism in a big way. Do you think that medieval France could be a strong competitor in today's world ?

Japan was NEVER a producer of crap. After WW II when their entire island was rubble, they made junk. But it wasn't because they didn't know better. It was because their tools had been destroyed. China has not made anything but garbage since the Ming dynasty. Somewhere along the line they went for the Manager Syndrome and decided "cheap" and "competitive" was the way to go. They'll not recover from that easily. The US won't recover from that so easily, either. Financiers and Important People are perhaps not entirely worthless but they're pretty close to it. Let them run the country and it's doomed. China has let Important People make all the decisions for over a thousand years. Hard habit to break ...

Remember that Japan kicked China's ass from Billabong to Tusacaloosa with almost no effort. War skills may not be popular these days but they do show a society's abilities at organization, planning, and execution. China ain't got none of the above.

In short, this "All the other Asian countries went through this sequence too" statement is crap. China and Japan and Korea and Taiwan and Singapore are NOT the same, any more than the US and Mexico and Guatemala are the same just because we are in the same hemisphere.
sybrfreq wrote:
Now wait a minute here. I have a Dayton Audio (local company) APA-150 amplifier that was proudly manufactured in China. With the exception of a linear-taper volume pot (which they replaced, no questions asked, and immediately admitted that it was a design defect) it is a damn fine machine.

Key words bolded for your entertainment :) .

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I will agree that the number of quality products anywhere (especially from China) are few and far between.

Betcha can't name even one.

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But it isn't all crap.

Going out on a limb here but I would say, Yes it is.

I cannot think of one thing in modern China that's worth a plug nickel. As the saying goes, they could fuck up a turd. This isn't because Chinese people are stupid or because the repressive communist regime killed all the intellectuals in the Cultural Revolution or because of any other ridiculous thesis proposed in the western press.

It's mainly because Confucianism is shit.

If you want a society of mindless zombies, if you want a society where lying, cheating, stealing is the norm because "anything is good as long as it will advance the family interests", if you want a society that cares for nothing on earth except its own selfish interests, then Confucius is your man. George W Bush would be another choice, I guess.

Basically, sybr, Dayton Audio screwed you and all the other people who should be assembling their products to avoid paying decent salaries, avoid the regulations that keep Love Canal from happening, avoid the taxes that pave your roads, keep your sewage disposal plant running, keep your water potable and your air breathable. Dayton Audio and the rest of the slimy little bastards with financial degrees but the foresight of a flea entered into a pact with the devil to enrich themselves at the expense of the people who made it all possible. "China" could not have done shit by themselves. It's your friends and neighbor ceo's and cfo's who have created this monster. Let's get government off the back of business ! Drill, baby, drill ! And don't forget to repeal Glass-Steagall, so inconvenient for the true wealth-producers !

Now what ? Could you people fuck it up any worse ?
skywriter wrote:
this is why the royal we rely heavily upon disclaimers, such as the one supplied below

I figgerred that ... but that particular bit of conventional wisdom is so common and so wrong .... it attempts to excuse everything but in fact it excuses nothing and worse yet, it's not even true.. Typical media horseshit.

I think I'd like an iPad that ran BeOS and filled up via ftp, tho. Apple OS is too glitzy for me these days and the iTunes thing, disgusting. Hardware ten, software three, and I'm still on unemployment, computin' for my own enjoyment ...
recondas wrote:
hamei wrote:
Could you people fuck it up any worse ?
Oh, we probably could/will.

Looks that way, to be truthful. I just spent three weeks in the US and it's not pretty. Could be because of where I was but ...

Grocery store prices are similar to what they were ten years ago. Not the same but not appalling, either.

So why is a mediocre, no, a very mediocre meal three times as much as it was ten years ago ? Fifteen dollar hamburgers ? Why do you put up with that crap ? I was fool enough to order a medium Coke at Bungler King. The damned thing came in a five gallon cup and cost six bucks. Guys ? That's STUPID. Waitresses don't get any more than they did a decade ago, food is not THAT much higher, so what's the deal ? Two candles on the table and a "Hi ! My name is Jeffrey and I'll be your waiter tonight" triple the cost ? And WHY so ridiculously large ? Who can eat a two pound hamburger ? I happen to know that Bungler King and Mickey still possess normal human sized cups. They use them here in China. So why do Americans put up with this crap ?

Urinals - wtf is going on there ? Take a normal-sized urinal and mount it six inches off the floor ? Which nitwit thought this up ? If you want to use the same hardware for both five year olds and Wilt Chamberlain, then use the ones they had in the thirties - full height, from floor to elbow. What happened to intelligence ? We're trying to copy China in the "I don't care if it works, everything fits on the drawings" sweepstakes ?

Music. It's possible that my ears are failing but we went to dozens of places with music that I know well playing in the background. Either Sony is selling Diner Music CD's covered by Johhny in His Garage so they wouldn't have to pay the original singers, or Pat Boone has remastered every sixties and seventies song in the archives. Elevator Rock, really cool. Barf.

The people of my group are starting to get old. People with manufacturing businesses making real stuff. Good stuff, with customers like Joe Gibbs. They can't give their businesses away. No one wants any nasty manufacturing company, that's so outre. You could get your hands dirty !

Meanwhile, the industrial parks that used to be 95% full at all times are 2/3 empty. "We need jobs ! We need jobs !" Well it's a fine time to leave me, Lucille. Shoulda thought of that when you sent all the real work overseas so you could all be real estate agents, webmasters, and sell life insurance.

All these talentfree people wandering around in their $300 True Religion jeans and driving their Mercedes SUV's while they are $300,000 upside down in their over-mortgaged houses ... wtf, wreck ? This is the US now ? It's disgusting.

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Just out of curiosity, are you claiming the distance exemption from the generic "you people"? That doesn't sound very working class hero-ish to me - thought the janitor would always be there to help clean up the mess.....


No working class hero here. No distance exemption, maybe a Cassandra exemption. I started screaming about Kirk Kerkorian and Bill Agee in the late seventies. Voodoo economics and trickle down and every bit of fascist crap that came along for the next thirty years. (Benito Mussolini invented fascism : his definition was "Operation of the government for the benefit of the corporations." If that doesn't describe the past thirty years of American society then I don't know what does.) Nobody gave a rat's ass. Fine, y'all wanted this shit, now you've got it. (Not you in particular, wreck. Not even everyone ... but enough. More than enough. "We need rich people to give jobs to the poor people." God, can we say "brainwashed" ?)

Y'all made your bed, now y'all get to lie in it. The US is a nation of spoiled overgrown children. When I think of all the sacrifices that my parents went through so that the slimy greedy self-righteous assholes of the past thirty years could throw it all away, it makes me want to cry. Or puke, not sure which.

Plus I missed out on picking up an SGI that would have been perfect. Now that really makes me want to cry, but my own fault :(