The collected works of hamei - Page 6

joerg wrote:
Who reads the frontpage when during editing an article a captcha comes up?

Same guy who watches the mantel while he's stoking the fire :P
pinball_0 wrote: gosh... they sure loved using the DS1780's...

Is there a newer, beefier, reliable replacement ? The replacement boards from SGI don't seem to blow as often ? Maybe could ask Rothers to look, as I remember he had his replaced. Or maybe Oskar45 did, too.

Good project ! I wouldn't half mind getting the environment monitoring working again .. been three years now with it turned off :(
pinball_0 wrote: Thanks Hamei !!! I take that as a extreme compliment from a master porter of freewares ...

Umm, thank you but I have to be a little honest - you have me confused with someone else. Maybe joerg or neko or schleusel or somebody. I've compiled a scant couple of things with a lot of help from people who know what they're doing. They deserve the credit.

Now, back to your soldering iron ! The audience of Fuels with l1cmd env off is anxiously waiting for your results !
pinball_0 wrote: just got done rotating the heat-sink on my PIMM (CPU)... looking at the airflow..
no wonder cpu runs warm... the heat sink fins were blocking the duct to the rear exhaust.. so i dismounted and remounted the heatsink 90 degrees now look at the flow.. through the fins...

BTW heat sink rotation alone dropped PIMM temp 10 degrees!!! ...gee why didnt the engineers see this !!!

I think yours was butchered because I could swear the fins on my CPU are in line with the airflow. Not going to take it apart to double-check but pretty certain.
tillin9 wrote: Probably best to call the company and ask for relicensing, if possible.

tillin, some times you crack me up :D :D :D
bjames wrote: ...going with a 400mhz or RM7K with a new mother board.

You don't need a new mainboard. They are all the same (or close enough for horseshoes.)
bjames wrote: So does this mean I can drop in a RM7000 processor to replace my R10K 200mhz?

Yes, but you need a couple of parts. The R10/R12 cpu card sits farther off the mainboard so you need different connectors and maybe standoffs. There's an R-5 350 around here for a tad over a hundred $$ but maybe that's too much ?

Btw, you have an R10k-200 ? or 195 mhz ? People have overclocked the r5 is why I ask ... otherwise, you're liable to get people confused between the r5-200 if you call the 195 mhz r10k cpu a 200.
dj wrote:
That's a good idea, and I think fairly easy to code... I could reuse some of the other icons for the "File", "Window", "View", and "Playback" groups. Any thoughts on what would make a good icon for the others, like "Image", "Image I/O", "Shortcuts", or "General"?

Not to be a party-pooper but most everyone agrees that chinese text is an arcane and peculiar institution which hinders development and literacy a great deal.

So why do people think icons are so wonderful ? How about just using chinese characters ? then people could learn something useful along with the task of memorizing a bunch of icons ?
dj wrote:
What are the Chinese characters for "Image I/O"? :)

Wait until Monday, I'll ask the Assistant :-)
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I hear what you're saying, but how many Chinese characters are there vs. the number of icons in a typical app? Plus icons are important because they take a minimal amount of screen real-estate; the alternative is abbreviations, which are far worse.

How many icons are there ? Far too many. What does the nun with the arrow through her head mean ? Why do people need the icons-with-text option ? Because the icons are useless. They look cute but that is all they bring to the table. If you want to go that way, I'm voting for simplified Chinese.

(Neko will probably want Japanese but we've got the market size - 1.3 billion customers ! dj, you could be rich beyond all your dreams ! :P )
dj wrote:
hamei wrote:
What does the nun with the arrow through her head mean ?

Finally I have an icon for the "preferences dialog". :)

I double-dare you :P :P
kramlq wrote: An RM5200 @ 300MHz is about on a par with a R10k at 195MHz, so don't go "downgrading" your R10k 250MHz. I have a RM7000 at 350MHz, and while there are no official performance figures for O2, I think real world tests show it to be close to an R12000 270MHz ...

Mine is a rm7000 @ 350 also but I swear it's faster than the 300 mhz r12 it replaced. Maybe the disk makes that much difference ?
jan-jaap wrote: Oh, and those Cisco's don't have an ethernet port. But a Linux PC with an ethernet and an FDDI card makes an excellent router. At least, that's how I did it.

Do they make an FDDI network module for the 3640 ?
Bah. Someone should execute blitzkrieg on WoW Headquarters. Dexter1 was a hell of a resource until he was captured by their alien mind-control schemes :cry:
tillin9 wrote: I've managed to upgrade my Octane2 and while Linux runs like a dream on it, sadly I think I need to re-install and/ or upgrade IRIX to deal with the newer processor.

Umm, ?? I went from an r10k-195 all the way thru an overclocked 360 without reinstalling anything. Why do you think you need to reinstall Irix ? You're running 6.5.22 or better, right ?

Btw 2, an O2 makes a great external CD-ROM. In fact, sometimes I think that's about all they're good for :P
tillin9 wrote: Besides iSCSI, I can't think of a good way to share the device.

As root on the O2, rmb on the CD-ROM icon. Choose "Share with Network". Fill out the blanks. Now you're good to go.
tillin9 wrote:
Also, do you happen to have the PV, Digital, Compression, and Analogue/Digital video option info? I think there is a lot of confusion on this.

Lurker's Guide to Video is probably the most complete single description of all the options that you'll find.
ajerimez wrote: Tell me about it. I think most major software packages reached maturity a long time ago.

In general I totallly agree with you and that's especially true in the case of gnu stuff but there are exceptions. Pro/E has ruined the interface as far as I'm concerned but there's lots of useful new surfacing abilities in the newer versions. Death of Wildfire on Irix has really taken the fun out of the Fuel for me.

Windows - 2000 was the last worthwhile upgrade for most users ...

Windows Server 2003, actually. They fixed the network components in particular. It's sort of like a better xp without all the crud.

I think Microsoft has become their own worst enemy, and the best reason to switch to a Mac.

Scary to see all the mainstream people considering Macintosh these days. :shock:

One general peculiarity of software - the bloat always seems to increase exponentially, while the features only increase linearly.

Probably a result of letting every retarded person on earth have a computer. China Telecom and HP had a joint deal where peasants could get a p-iv with a gig of memory, 17" lcd and broadband connection for an interest-free pittance. Something like $ 500 bucks total, spread over three years ... well, there's a lawyer (the earth will be at peace when the last lawyer is hanged in the entrails of the last priest) drumming up support for some kind of action. The peasants were robbed, the computers are too slow, the flat panels old technlogy and so on. Truly hard to believe but oh-too-many dorks are ready to rush in, pontificating on how the poor farmers were robbed. Shee-it, my 4 mhz 286 with a 13" monitor cost $ 4600 from HP new. Who got robbed ?
dc_v01 wrote:
cybercow wrote:
It sucks the same as all the other versions.
humm ... i don`t think so, because it`s an industrial cad standard indeed ...

hehe, was, was an industrial standard - well, ok, it's still used for 2D.

"Common" != "standard" :-)

i actually like wireframe better sometimes but autocad isn't even good at that. Cadkey kicked Acad's ass all around the ring for the last ten rounds. There was even a solaris version of cadkey 6 available.

I'd still like to see Acad 13 on Irix tho just for fun. Never heard of anyone who even saw it in the flesh ... do you have a copy, cyber ? Not soliciting software here, just wondering out of idle curiosity !

constructing wired 3D architectural objects from plain views, before exporting them to some powerful animation / rendering tool it`s a quite standard task for acad ...

Why would anyone want to do that ? Unless you have years of experience running Autocrap which you are leveraging, then all the tools in other applications are better. Importing always sucks.

If you want a really nifty 2D wireframe app, find a copy of ME10. Pretty sure there was an Irix version of that but have never seen one of those either :-( Was very nice in DOS, tho.
squeen wrote: AutoCAD 13 was the point I jumped ship, both from AutoCAD and from Windoze. Still, for old time sake I'd love to see 13 (or 12) running under IRIX!

Worst part is, 2.52 was okay. Then they jumped to 9.something which was okay-ish, then incremented up to 12 which was supposedly good (for autocad, but by then i'd found something much better) and along came 13 ... which was a disaster. Supposedly 14 is the one to have for historic Acad. It's the same as version 13 except that it works :)
JacquesT wrote:
vishnu wrote: The rallying cry at Autodesk is probably `let's stay in front of Blender!' And they'll do it technology-wise, but it's always tough to compete with a zero dollar and zero cent price tag... ;)



...Or buy them out... :twisted:

Ah, you've noticed the Autodesk business model also ! It's called innovation by checkbook ...
ajerimez wrote: The PR440FX can make use of 1mb cache processors? I've read conflicting reports on the newsgroups - either it won't boot with them, or it won't utilize more than 512kb of the cache, or that it works great. Could depend on the mobo and bios revisions. Unfortunately I don't have 1mb cache processors to test with, and I'm reluctant to spend $ on them if they might not work well.

Don't bother. The Overdrives work better. Maybe for a very few (server-type ?) applications the 1 meg cache will overpower the faster and better (some big improvements between the ppro and p-ii) Overdrives but in Real Life ... dually Overdrives kick ass.

Tried both. Ran the PPro's at everything from 180 to 266 (okay, they only ran at 240) and benchmarked them, too. Had 180's and 200's with 256, 512 and 1 meg cache.

About the "tiny" cache ... 512k at processor speed isn't that bad. Plus the L1 cache on the Overdrive is twice as big as the PPro ... remember when the Celerons came out with virtually no cache ? Except you could overclock the pee out of them ? Those suckers flew for many (desktop) applications.

Overdrives. Would still like to try four in a Netfinity ... hot to go racy performance there, boy !
mapesdhs wrote: And of course PayPal have a reputation for simply locking accounts and grabbing the funds when
things go wrong. Worse, one's money is not protected anyway and it's very hard to get it back if
they lock an account (180 days or more). Many people have had their accounts cleaned out. I'm
sure you've read paypalsucks.com..

If Georgie-Porgie puddin' and pie were not the leader of the Free World, PayPal would be controlled by the banking laws. They walk like a bank, they quack like a bank, they eat snails like a bank, in effect they are a bank. So how they get away with their crap ...

It's time to string up the right-wingers, guys. Eisenhower Republicans are one thing but these people ... you're being fleeced at every opportunity.

Taobao (Chinese site, ran eBay out of China on a rail, har har) has had zhifubao for ages. Escrow system similar to what Ian describes. Works really well.
SAQ wrote:
You probably should include Sun and Apollo (little-known now, but they were one of the first to work on network-transparent workstations).

They were pretty famous in the technical fields - CAD and engineering, anyhow. HP bought them. ComputerVision was also big, they had their own hardware ?

Can't leave out PDP-8's and PDP-11's ... 11's could do some graphics and 8's were sort-of workstation-sized. "Expensive Typewriter", best name ever for a computer program :D

For computer-aided manufacturing it was all APT or COMPAC II and ran on a bunch of weird stuff. Look up "bit-sliced processors." My W2560 had that, didn't have a processor actually, was a bunch of discrete components. That was the true difference between a minicomputer and a micro at one time. Both the PDP-8 and the Westinghouse had core memory, which was actually pretty good in some ways. Better than bubble, anyhow !

Lots of time sharing. Sundstrand, Cincinnati Milacron, GE, even Westinghouse offered accounts. ADM-3 semi-graphics terminals like neko is looking for :) If I were at home could give you some old brochures :(
skywriter wrote:
the entire PDP series was done before 1979. at DEC we were totally VAX in the 1980's (but we actually supported stuff for 10 years).

Oh, so your sales guys continued peddling the outdated crap to the industrial controller market, eh ? Thanks from all us second-rate citizens !

I still like the PDP-8. It's an okay computer. Reasonably easy to service and you got all the schematics along with it. Nice :)
toxygen wrote: I personally would invite upgrade from p4 2.66ghz i have now.

Entry level ?

( Looks over sadly at little blue O2 running the office ... )
Mark_G wrote:
Works fine on a Fuel 1600 MHZ ...

I want that one. Very much. Better lock your doors. :P
^^ Looks great, deBug. How about a wireless one next time ? That would be truly awesome :P
edefault wrote: Once one has worked with a trackball mice are no longer an option.

Definitely agree ... had an HP tracky with a big-ass ball on top and three buttons, it was purrrrfect. HP-IL tho :(

Here's something weird - in China we have 418,367 different crappy mice. Plastic ones, not the furry rodents. In the past five years I have seen one trackball and that was in Hong Kong. Should have bought it the instant I saw it :(

Tablet might be even better. I'm saving up - figure about 2017 I might be able to afford a decent Wacom.
recondas wrote:
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Iris Audio Processor: USB audio revision 1.0, number 0
a.k.a. the Griffin iMic - it was plug and play <no need to edit ioconfig>.

Jeeze, wreck .... graphics from Cinerama Holiday but sound from the Jazz Singer. Bleugh ! Let's put some real sound in it !
nekonoko wrote: Uploaded neko_postfix-2.5.3.tardist to /beta.

Upgraded this morning (couldn't even wait for dester1's mirror to sync, sorry !) and my normal bushels of spam seem to be coming thru fine. Btw, I don't see how these people make any money enlarging penises. All you have to do is tie some yarn around it then hang a brick off that.
recondas wrote:
[... - there only *two* PCI slots in an O300.

I thought there was an option to put 16 (or was it 64 ?) pci slots in an origin 3-series ? Maybe you need that :)
josehill wrote: IIRC, SLES is free to try, but you need to buy an entitlement code to get certain features, like software updates through Yast, multi cpu support, etc.

I'm kind of confused. Thought I'd look at little Susie, the movie wasn't so hot but Novell sent me to OpenSuse 11 download, grabbed a live CD iso burned it and away we went, saw 4 processors big bubbles no troubles ... in fact, looks pretty nice. Between Red Hat and Novell, I kinda prefer Novell. At least Novell's enemy is Microsoft while Red Hat targets Unix.
In another (small) triumph for Fuel users, ramq noted that the Belkin four-port USB card worked fine. So I picked up a generic 2-port universal voltage nec-chipped pci adapter card.

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PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x104c, device 0x8024) PCI slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1216) PCI slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0005) PCI slot 2
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1033, device 0x0035) PCI slot 3
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1033, device 0x0035) PCI slot 3
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1033, device 0x00e0) PCI slot 3
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0003) PCI slot 4
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x11c1, device 0x5802) PCI slot 5
HUB in Module 001c01/Slot 0: Revision 2 Speed 200.00 Mhz (enabled)
IP35prom in Module 001c01/Slot n0: Revision 6.210
USB controller: type OHCI
USB controller: type OHCI
USB controller: type OHCI
USB Human Interface Device: device id 0 type keyboard
USB Human Interface Device: device id 0 type mouse


It appears that any pci card with a NEC OHCI USB chip should work in the Fuel ? Thanks to ramq for being the brave pioneer.

< Moderator Edit: Split from The Fuel (IP35) Hardware Aggregator <recondas>
ramq wrote: What's funky enough about the Belkin, is that it only show two OHCI ports. Perhaps it's two "channels" and it makes up a hub of two ports each? I don't know, but in the end it might show that the Fuel can only handle two ports on the four-port Belkin. I have to investigate this further when I find the time...


Not sure ... I bought what was supposed to be a Belkin to try. It was a two-port version with another internal port. hinv showed all three on the card plus the two built-in ports. I stuck a fonky tablet into one of the ports on the Fraudkin, recognized that as a keyboard right away. (I know, but what do you expect, cost three bucks. I couldn't get that tablet to work in Windows either.)

Sent that one back, pisses me off when they use a photo of one thing then send you a different one so now in process of ordering a different four + one port generic with NEC chip.

Does seem as if they should work in a Tezro ... maybe even an Octane with late o.s. and a cage ?

Those cards cost about $5 here so testing is not too expensive. Pondering a no-name combo card with TI firewire and NEC USB right now.
nekonoko wrote: ... nothing like that in the IP30 tree.

Got Source ? :P
jan-jaap wrote: Two Tezro's, in Sweden, for $1000.

Where was that listed - in Albania ? For twenty minutes ? Only four bids, all from the same person ?

Something smells fishy here !
A little more on the NEC-chip USB cards ... the one I sent back was a three-port model with NEC engine. Worked, all three ports showed up in hinv. Universal voltage card. Plugged a mousey into one port, showed up in ioconfig. Plugged a cheapo tablet in also, that showed up as a keyboard. At least stuff was talking.

Got cocky, insisted on the four-port + 1 that I'd bought. New one came, Fool won't boot. Won't get to the white light. I get a bare instant's worth of flash from the red led and that's it.

So much for getting cocky. Either I can eat crow now or go looking for another three port NEC-engine USB card.
nekonoko wrote: I tried a four-port NEC USB card with the same result - machine won't even boot. Thought I was just unlucky in my chipset revision.

Have three different NEC-chipped cards coming. We'll see what pans out.

Stupid of me not to write down the info on the one that worked. Seemed like they all would :(
An update :

This is the one I really wanted to have work - Adaptec UAU 3020 dually card with TI chip for the firewire and a NEC chip for the USB. One slot, two birdies.

First one I got was a rev A in red . Alas, the firewire showed up but not the USB.

Second one was a later rev in blue . Shows up this way in hinv

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Integral Fast Ethernet: ef0, version 1, module 001c01, pci 4
Iris Audio Processor: version RAD revision 13.0, number 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x3388, device 0x0021) PCI slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1216) PCI slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0005) PCI slot 2
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0003) PCI slot 4
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x11c1, device 0x5802) PCI slot 5

So hip hip hooray but where is that little devil ? Rebooted and watched the messages more carefully this time :

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WARNING : pciio_ppb : host pci slot /hw/module/001c01/Ibrick/xtalk/14/pci/1  does not support having multiple dma masters downstream. No devices behind that slot are being initialized. This behavior can be overridden by setting the kernel mtune pciio_multimaster_override.


So hmmm ... do I want to do that ? No guts, no glory, eh ?
nekonoko wrote: ... if something does go awry with the kernel.

Not a smart move with three major projects that must be finished by the end of the month.

I'll probably do it :D