The collected works of hamei - Page 38

theinonen wrote:
... there is no better software to draw those than ProCAD+. ...

CAD war ! CAD war ! Everybody take cover ! :P

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With older fireflops, an installed sqlite was definitely a problem. Been there, done that.

With the diegel fireflop 3.0.19, I first installed neko sqlite3-3.7.10. Ran FF. FF3 started up fine, did a little bit of bookmark organizing, added one or two, moved one or two, no crash.

Improvement One noted.

Then I renamed the ff3 sqlite libs to junk_1 and junk_2, made links from the neko_sqlite libs instead. That is also working, apparently fine. Not too much testing but added, deleted, and moved a few bookmarks with (so far) no evil results.

Improvement Two noted.

So apparently there is no reason that FF can't use an installed sqlite. Those Mozilla people really need a good slapping.

Code:
urchin 11# ldd firefox-bin
<abbreviated>
libcairo.so.3  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19/libcairo.so.3
libfreetype.so.7  =>     /usr/nekoware/lib/libfreetype.so.7
<abbreviated>
libintl.so.9  =>         /usr/nekoware/lib/libintl.so.9
libsqlite3.so.1  =>      /usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19/libsqlite3.so.1
libfastm.so  =>  /usr/lib32/libfastm.so
< more abbreviated >
libc.so.1  =>    /usr/lib32/libc.so.1
libsqlite3.so  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19/libsqlite3.so
libpixman-1.so.1  =>     /usr/nekoware/lib/libpixman-1.so.1
libglitz.so.2  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/libglitz.so.2
libpng12.so.0  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/libpng12.so.0
<truncated>

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urchin 13# pwd
/usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19
urchin 15# ls -l
<abbreviated>
lrwxr-xr-x    1 root     sys            35 Mar 31 10:52 libsqlite3.so -> /usr/nekoware/lib/libsqlite3.so.1.6
lrwxr-xr-x    1 root     sys            35 Mar 31 10:51 libsqlite3.so.1 -> /usr/nekoware/lib/libsqlite3.so.1.6
lrwxr-xr-x    1 root     sys            35 Mar 31 10:51 libsqlite3.so.1.6 -> /usr/nekoware/lib/libsqlite3.so.1.6
<truncated>

More testing would probably be in order but so far ....

edit : while I was rooting around in there, I noticed a libcairo in the fireflop tree. Hmm. Replaced that with a link to the nekoware libcairo as well. It is working but ... maybe a bad idea ? Is this going to get into the gcc-> MIPSPro Incompatibility Syndrome ? If anything, it's (subjectively) a little quicker than before.

edit ii : It is probably not a good idea to link the nekoware libcairo and libsql into their respective homes in firefox, and this is most likely a coincidence, but after three days have not had one crash since I made that change. Normally I'd get one bus error or std:bad alloc per day, even with the new pango (Lots fewer crashes than with the old pango tho.)

Hmmm. Not complaining but strange ...

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While I'm in the guts fixing stuff, does anyone know offhand where to adjust the timeout settings for nfs ? Whenever a mounted nfs share goes offline, my desktop goes dead forever waiting for it to respond. Not exactly dead but all the graphical elements quit working such as the file windows, pasting text to the desktop, drag and drop and so on.

And I do mean forever . Long enough to go make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, eat it, take a pee and wash your hands, come back but Irix is still looking for the missing directory. It's tragic :(

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geo wrote:
morning ham! we got 3 days holiday ;)

Right ! Except then you have to work on Sunday to make up for the third day :D

We have an unusual concept of a three day holiday ...

fstab wrote:
timeo=n Set NFS timeout to n tenths of a second. (Default = 11)

Good idear, thanks. I'll give this a shot and report back.

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jpstewart wrote:
Maybe you'd prefer 'soft'?

Thanks very much but so far, no :P

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Oskar45 wrote:
While I've the first season on DVD [I really enjoyed it very much], do you think it would be worthwhile to get me the second season as well [after all, the third season started last weekend].

May as well, it's only $5 USD ...

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* Postfix: Your mail can now have the distinction of being deleted by 53 individual subservers

* Sendmail: Priority treatment if you can write, while holding down your Shift key, an m4 macro to calculate the airspeed velicoty of an unladen swallow. All other messages will be summarily deleted in 6-8 weeks, or whenever the queue daemon catches up, whichever is later

* Exim: Conveniently marks every message as "unrouteable" to reduce the hassle of making up reasons to bounce mail

* Courier: Promptly delivers, but then quickly hides, all mail

* Qmail: Might actually receive mail from DJB. The rest of the world will receive rude, copyrighted bounce messages.

* Exchange: Storing mail is irrelevant since the server isn't up often enough to actually receive any. This server is also perfectly secure unless it is running.

:D

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ClassicHasClass wrote:
I'm a sendmail dweeb ...

:shock: Oi. I'm impressed. I used sendmail for one summer, the guy who wrote it had to be from a different universe.

Agree with duck, postfix is pretty nice. And it runs on Irix :D I ran all our mail on an O2 for a long time, until dealing with the morons in the US got to be too exhausting. "It's from Chiiiina ! Must be spam !"

Stupid shits. Over 50% of the world's spam originates in the US and the major telecoms are the ones at fault. Spam would be very easy to stop, just like cell phone thefts, if they wanted.

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ClassicHasClass wrote:
However, I'm a little nervous about doing the L1 flash step, since I don't think I'll be able to reinstall the old 600MHz R14K card afterwards, correct? Anything wrong with just leaving it as a "600MHz R16K" so that I have a spare CPU card, or is it not worth it (I assume they don't fail very often, but ... )?

I don't think I've ever heard of one failing. I'm sure one must have, somewhere, sometime ... but people have been hit on the head by meteorites, too. 600 to 700 is more than ten percent upspeed, nothing to sneeze at when you are running a slow cpu.

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smj wrote:
I use sendmail ...

C'mon in, water's fine, nuthin' ta hurt ya in heah, boy ... :D
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leaknoil wrote: Anyone able to provide a picture of one removed from the system or better than me finding one on Google ?

Ask and ye shall receive ...



Sorry about the quality, I ain't a wunderful fotogroffer
leaknoil wrote: That helps a lot. Thanks. The way people charge for parts like those if I can't find them in the shop there is little point of grabbing the rest.

My guess is, it's something pretty common. By this point int their career, SGI would run down to Fry's to pick up whatever they could put on Bozo's wife's credit card to finish an order.
jimmer wrote:
fired up Blender and created a new SGI cube-logo throbber and took the liberty of cleaning-up Hamei's 4Dwm userChrome.css prettyfication-mod posted earlier in this thread.

It's so nice to have a professional around the house :D

That was a pretty nifty idea with the link, J. Makes it easy to try out several different userChrome setups. Thank you for the lesson ...

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jimmer wrote:
... it's more like well-meant bricolage

More like necrophilia, I'm afraid :D

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There's a minor improvement in vknew ...

Are you using RapidApp, Jimmer ? or getting Viewkit elsewhere ?

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vishnu wrote:
hamei, you didn't know Eric Allman wrote Sendmail?

Of course I knew that ! one of the Allman brothers ... played bass, right ?

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jimmer wrote:
I don't feel like I'm missing much by not using a UI-builder tool like RapidApp or BXPro.

Not being critical (I'm not even qualified to comment !), was just curious.

RapidApp is pretty simple for us dummies, in case someone else wants to get their fingers wet.

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In the end, my issue isn't with the UI part of things, rather it's with C++ which I find to be a very complicated and hoop-jumpy set of languages.

there's always FORTRAN :D

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smj wrote:
Hmm... Is that a banjo I hear off in the distance? :)

Close ...

Where the crane flies through the marshes
And the turtles sun their shells
Where the water rat goes swimmin'
That's where my swamp girl dwells.

Where the sunlight never wanders
And the moonlight never falls
Where the water's black with the devil's track
That's where my swamp girl calls.

What did she say there
The girl with the golden hair
To make me follow her down there ?
How did she look when she took me by the hand ?

Tonight her hair will float in the water
And the gold will no longer shine
It will spread like a fan in the water
While she makes a mysterious sign.
I have seen that sign before

Her eyes aren't like the whippoorwill
And her eyes aren't like the fawn
Her eyes are like the diamondback
Stretchin' in the dawn ...

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vishnu wrote:
Is there an EDID extractor that works for IRIX?

You may have to get your hands wet in the Windows urinal :P

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PymbleSoftware wrote:
I live on the ass end of the planet.

no, no no ! The sun comes up over here first. Do you walk out the front door ass-first ? of course not . That makes us the head end of the planet ... which means, of course ... :D

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recondas wrote:
... you'd like to leave an indelible mark on the IRIX world, [url=http://www.polypux.org/projects/read-edid/] ...

This
Code:
#include <asm/vm86.h>
#include <sys/vm86.h>

sounds like sacrificing Clytemnestra before we even leave home ... :(

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I had similar difficulties a few years ago - the answer was, the graphical tools for recording suck. Use the command line and all goes well.

The instructions may have been on Ian's site and they are certainly here in nekochan archives ... also, as Robespierre suggests, O2's work best for video at somewhere around 6.5.14-17.

There is a lot of discussion of this problem buried here - over to your right and up there is FAQ, Search, Members, and User Control Panel. The one you want is Search :D

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Well, all I can say is, I was trying to make a short video on the O2 years ago using Media Recorder without success. Searched here and maybe at Ian's place, found several people (maybe foetz ?) saying "Don't even mess with that pos, use the command line, here's an example ..."

I did that and it worked. Sorry if you don't like that answer.

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Baphijmm wrote:
It's not that I dislike the answer, so much as I cannot find the references you're referring to.

We best call on the wreck. If I help you with a search, we'll end up learning how to build a steam locomotive :)

You can start with < man mediarecorder > but I'll be the first to admit, sometimes man pages are less than crystal-clear.

Ian is Ian Mapleson, much good info on his site about various SGI-related tasks. He also posts here sometimes.

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http://www.newtechusa.com/ppi/main.asp

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hkurokawa wrote:
Does anyone have any solution to re-enable the CPUs?

You probably did this already but just in case : did you do an < enableall > from the prom ?

Out of curiosity, is this a deskside Tezro or a rackmount ?

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recondas wrote:
Added a Dual-Channel Display (DCD) Option board to both V12s....
Code:
# /usr/gfx/gfxinfo -vv

First off, I hate you.

Now that there's no misunderstandings, are you getting one desktop or two ? Two sets of 0,0 origin points, looks like two desks stacked one above the other ?

And I see you also have "Sync Disabled" . While you were fighting this, have you come across any method to get "Sync Enabled" ? With your setup you can't see it but I bet you have tearing at your borders.

Pretty neat though.

Did I mention that I hate you ?

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hkurokawa wrote:
Unfortunately, I have not tried "enableall" from PROM console.
Because PROM could not started up due to CPU disabled problem.

Okay, this won't help you much but maybe give you some hope ...

I did something similar once with some bad memory. POST disabled the memory slots due to the bad memory so I switched them into the other memory slots, so the computer could disable all the memory. ( Fuel )

After that it didn't want to boot :oops:

I did manage to fix it via some hardware-switching and using the L1 so you should be able to do the same.

Sorry I can't be more exact : Oldtimer's is hell.

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And my TEZRO is a deskside one.

Cool. I was just wondering if it was the rackmount that was on yahoo auctions. I'm still kicking myself for not buying that :(

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fu wrote:
agreed, we need some fresh air (probably more than ever)

Day doo ron ron, babe, day doo ron ron :D

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Laughed so hard I wet my pants ...

http://www.stokely.com/lighter.side/evol.pgm.html

(This belongs elsewhere but maybe people who hang here would appreciate it more)

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recondas wrote:
In spite of what gfxinfo seems to imply, one 3200x2400 desktop (if you can zoom in enough to read it, gfxinfo is running in the open window):

Cool cool cool. Mikey wants ! :D

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Just went and took a pretty close look and wasn't able to find any evidence of tearing. I wonder if you might be seeing it because the 2@1920x2400 config we set up for your T221 is probably a couple of notches north of the intended capabilities of a single V12/DCD?

I don't think it is, really ... I mean, the intended capabilities are limited to the 165mhz single-link dvi bandwidth (an oversimplification but convenient) and we aren't exceeding that ...

However, I still bet you are getting tearing. You just can't see it because of the bars in the way. The only time I see it is if I have something that crosses over the tangency border. Then if you move that window you can see that the dvd refreshes one side at a time, right-left right-left right-left.

It's not obnoxious but it is there. I wonder if some sort of sync device would overcome that, or if it is just unavoidable due to the way the dcd works ?

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recondas wrote:
The image appears on the adjacent monitor as soon as it touches the edge of the LCD panel, so none of the visible image is actually blocked by the monitor frame.

I don't think you would see this tho, unless the two sides were actually touching ?
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Just wondering, do the two portions of each dcd synch to a single screen automatically for you every time on startup or do you ever have to diddle with them to get them to play nice ?

On mine, about half the time I have to do xsetmon from side-by-side flashing doublemint screens - two mice, two toolchests, two sets of everything -- choose the res it's already running at, click "okay" then they will settle down. Once in a while have to go through the sequence a couple times.

Curiosity killed the cat :D What do you get when you do a screenshit ? My guess is a single 3200 x 2400 rgb but who knows what evil lurks in the heart of man ?


Edit : Ah. Read more carefully, grashoppa. If you only have one pipe, you can turn on xinerama till you're blue in the face but it won't really do anything. So the software sync which you mentioned earlier is not functioning for me cuz it ain't there until the setup has more than a single pipe. Channel != pipe.

Would be interesting to see if the software sync does actually work when the various portions of the screen are touching, considering how they say the DCD works. Want to send over the test equipment ? i will gladly return it as soon as all the certification sequences are finished :D

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recondas wrote:
*Never* experienced anything even remotely similar on any of the DCD equipped systems here - the Tezro and Octane2 running 2@1600x1200 and now the O350 running double 2@1600x1200.

It looks a little similar to what you get when you connect a monitor to the middle socket while running a 2@ resolution ...

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Sounds like either the T221 is having difficulty syncing to the signal, or the V12/DCD is having trouble consistently generating it.

With a T221 you never see the part that syncs ... no matter what the incoming signal is, the internals of the T221 supply a 48hz refresh to the panel. So the backy-forthy is strange. It's not a sync problem, the monitor is actually showing what it is receiving, alternating refreshes.

Also, during boot or if you go to the prom, everything is fine except doubled. It's only when you pick up the graphics of the desktop that the graphics do their dance. XSgi problem ?

Strange ...

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The quick-n-dirty fix might be to treat the O350 like an O2 and *never* turn it off/restart the graphics

Too noisy ... it's not a big deal - the first time scared the crap out of me but it's only a few clicks to get xsweatmon up, choose the refresh that it's already running at, then close xsetmon. Once in a great while takes two tries but that's better than the howl of an angry fan all night :D

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.... or better yet, put graphics in another O350 and spread that 3840x2400 graphics feed across four stripes instead of two.

I am wondering if I will have to do double sync-ups with two graphics cards ! Perhaps Xinerama will solve that problem. Some day hope to find out ...

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Somebody buy the man a cigar.

Yeah, but now you have to resize all your screenshots, heh heh :P

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There's an unloved O350 sitting in the rack with hamei written on the toe tag

Is it as big as an Octane V12 ?

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recondas wrote:
If it walks and talks like a duck.... Sure sounds and looks like something in the vfo-V12-DCD-monitor conglomerate is half a notch off of plumb.

Well, something's happenin' here. But what is it ain't exactly clear ...

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The boot-time-prom behavior is normal - neither has any knowledge of the 2@ format magic IRIX performs on the DCD.

You get an image of the booting process and Onyx Infinite Performance splash screens in quadruplicate on my desk first thing in the morning when you start up, I assume ?

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... there was the issue of VFC going into danger-will-robinson-mode when the format has a screen height greater than 2048 pixels . Which is why I was thinkin' four heads might be better than two - won't eliminate the-greater-than-2048 issue, but cutting the horizontal resolution in half might ease the the strain of your single V12/DCD livin' on the bleeding edge.


Okay, I give in. Send over that top O350 with the V12 and DCD and I'll give 4@ 1920x1200 a try :)

Oh wait ! I have a better idea ! Keep the DCD's, just send over both O350's with the V12's. Ill add them to mine then we can skip the backy-forthy flickering problem entirely !

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you better tell sherwood to bring the *big* suitcase.

Sherwood has left the forest :( He's now in your neck of the woods wishing he were back here in the land of the free, the solvent*, the not-few.

* Except for me. Anyone depending on the honesty of the American businessman is an imbecile. Sigh.

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SGI_Ben wrote:
I wonder if anyone has any experience of making a dull fingerprint infested/corroded sgi machine shine again. Is it best to use a drill mounted buffer to make that old iron look like new ?

Ben ... look to your right. Now up a little. See FAQ, Search , Members, User Control Panel ?

Where's the <blink></blink> tages when you need them ?

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smj wrote:
SGI_Ben wrote:
Once you enter into single user mode, goto /usr/gfx/ucode/CRM/vof or /usr/gfx/ucode/CRIME/vof.
Copy the file 1024x768_60 to 1280x1024_96.

I may be missing something, but surely not this! Looks to me (while sleep-deprived) like you're wiping out the old definition for 1280x1024_96 - that way lies madness! Use xsetmon instead.


Damn good eyes ! I just whooshed over the top without reading, it's such a faq. SMJ is quadruple correct, this method is a big fat NO WAY !!!

btw - have to use < setmon >, xsetmon won't run without the graphics up.

You can also do it from the prom, < setenv gfx low > but I am not sure that all SGI kompewters will recognize that.

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miod wrote:
Better than avian flu! :lol:

If you're interested, we're having a half-off sale on chicken plus if you hurry, with every case of wings we'll toss in a complete river pig for another fifty cents !

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This one looks like it would be a worthy opponent :

http://www.synfig.org/cms/

Looks like a lot of C++ which is scary but other than that ... possible ? Looks like it could be a fun program.
Feelies wrote:
Now I'm tempted to give up on SPARC and snag a 40. I really like the look of the Ultra 20/25/40/45 case, so that's why I'm hesitant to get a Blade 2500.

I have to ask ... what's the point ? If you just "like the look" and are a cheapskate, then buy some cardboard, bend it up to the shape of a 45 and spray paint it silver. Do a red one and a blue one and a black one and zowee ! You've got a collection !

What the hell's the point of a "collection" anyhow ? What are you planning to do, turn it on when friends come over so you can say, "Wo, look at that desktop ! Isn't that cool ? Now over here we have the ..."

With rare exceptions, collection = bullshit. Why not choose something you like and actually use it ?

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ClassicHasClass wrote:
It's threads like this that make me realize how little I've accomplished with my collection.

hey, fella ... you ever hear of ten-four fox ? I'd say the contest to see who can stick the most monitor cables onto the back of their computer pales in comparison to what you've done ...

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This

http://www.gnu.org/software/mtools/

seemed like it would be useful, especially for working with SD cards ...

I sure didn't get very far though ...
Code:
cc-1137 cc: ERROR File = mtools.h, Line = 266
Unnamed prototyped parameters not allowed when body is present.

int ask_confirmation(const char *, ...)  __attribute__ ((format (printf, 1, 2)));
^

cc-1129 cc: ERROR File = mtools.h, Line = 266
A left brace ("{") is expected at this point.

int ask_confirmation(const char *, ...)  __attribute__ ((format (printf, 1, 2)));
^


While we're on the subject ... a little reading is a dangerous thing but it looks like files systems on Irix live in userland ? Which would mean that FAT16 and other file systems should not be impossible ?

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