Looked through the sgi website and the hinvs listed here - the 600 mhz nodeboards are fairly common, 700 also, some 800 and even the rare 1ghz in a couple of O350's. But I only see the 900 in Fuel hinvs. Was the 900 ever used in the O350 or Tezro ?
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curtjr4 wrote: I don't think that I have any compatible RAM sticks in my closet.
I don't think so either
I believe the PixLink guy is still in business. Now that you've determined it's not something simple like a fuse, it would probably be cheaper and certainly more reliable to have them repair the card.
Found it ! In 6.5 it's in /usr/bin, attached to apropos, man, whatis ...
Now to figure out how to misappropriate it ....
Now to figure out how to misappropriate it ....
pilot345 wrote:
Haha, for now I can dream that in 2013 or whatever, when SGI cuts support for MIPS/IRIX they release 6.5.30 source to all the nostalgic hobbyists, and IRIX can live!
Forget it. Until Americans quit jacking off over dreams of turning the poem Granny wrote that's been languishing in the attic for thirty years into an Olympic-sized pool stuffed with with greek statuary, it ain't gonna happen.
It's not really that common sense is rare. It's more that people would rather play with themselves than face reality. All this "intellectual property" crap is garbage. None of it is worth a nickel until you turn it into something people will pay to buy ... but fantasies die hard. Two years of Depression but the US still clings to the service economy myth while masturbating to the idea of moving upscale to white collar jobs. I'se gonna be impotent ! I'se gonna git me a MBA !
Fools.
sybrfreq wrote:
it was late.
The end is nigh ! repent ! repent !
I still prefer cad programs. If you want to make a box that's 3' x 4' x 6' it's easy. Who knows how big that thing is in Maya ?
fu wrote:
just wait for Clytemnestra to stab Cassandra in the back again
Which Hollywood movie will be around 2500 years from now ?
I always liked Clytemnestra. Can we say "Chickens come home to roost ?" Not a single one of the Greeks was very likeable. (Sorry, fu)
hamei wrote:
hmmm... we could cook up a design, run it through your machines and produce Clytemnestra key-rings?
Came back for a visit in June ... now I know what Odysseus felt like. Somebody really screwed the place up while I was gone.
For the key rings, we could just make miniature bath tubs. That'd sneak right past Homeland Security, sieg heil ! It could be a secret code, like the willow pattern
SAQ - that's totally true. And Irix is only part of the entire ecosystem that's required. Even worsse, if it did get open-sourced the maroons that have ruined Linux would just ruin Irix as well. So what would be the point ?
On the other hand, if Franklin, Jefferson, Washington et al had thought this way, there'd be no USA today. If the US is ever going to get out of the pit it's dug for itself we've got to quit being ball-less snivelling little girls and grow up. All those concerns are a pile of crap. Intellectual property is a fantasy. It's what you hand over the counter to get the money that has value. "But we're intelligence workers !" Umm, no. You're a bunch of delusional fools playing with your sex organs.
More to the point, where were the concerned Board members while management was pissing away a billion dollar company ? Where were the concerned Board members when SGI was crushing hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of salable goods ? Sales that could have gone into the stock holders' pockets ? "Board members" in the US are sooooo concerned about their "fiscal responsibilities" when that's convenient. Then they turn around and piss away millions of dollars in stockholder money when it suits their fancy. Carly Fiorina, Bill Agee, Eaton and Lutz, the list is a mile long. McKenna started to turn SGI around so the Board shitcanned him and put a twelve-year-old Bozo in charge. Smooth move, ex-lax.
Let's face facts : "Board members" should be burned at the stake. They are useless incompetent leeches who have driven the US into the gutter. It's about time they quit worrying about trivialities and started fearing for their lives.
On the other hand, if Franklin, Jefferson, Washington et al had thought this way, there'd be no USA today. If the US is ever going to get out of the pit it's dug for itself we've got to quit being ball-less snivelling little girls and grow up. All those concerns are a pile of crap. Intellectual property is a fantasy. It's what you hand over the counter to get the money that has value. "But we're intelligence workers !" Umm, no. You're a bunch of delusional fools playing with your sex organs.
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Your shareholders/board/etc will ask why you are doing this.
More to the point, where were the concerned Board members while management was pissing away a billion dollar company ? Where were the concerned Board members when SGI was crushing hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of salable goods ? Sales that could have gone into the stock holders' pockets ? "Board members" in the US are sooooo concerned about their "fiscal responsibilities" when that's convenient. Then they turn around and piss away millions of dollars in stockholder money when it suits their fancy. Carly Fiorina, Bill Agee, Eaton and Lutz, the list is a mile long. McKenna started to turn SGI around so the Board shitcanned him and put a twelve-year-old Bozo in charge. Smooth move, ex-lax.
Let's face facts : "Board members" should be burned at the stake. They are useless incompetent leeches who have driven the US into the gutter. It's about time they quit worrying about trivialities and started fearing for their lives.
fu wrote:
sorry what? none of them was meant to be likeable, it's the only take in show-business where gods resemble human nature and vice versa
The greek gods were fine, much more realistic than the monotheist nonsense. It was the greek warriors I don't like so much. The trojans always came off as more sympathetic.
Maybe that's a modern mental connection tho ... when you go off slumming you don't stick a couple of greeks in your wallet, you take a few trojans
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keep Clytemnestra, screaming bitch is all yours, no problemo..
I'd be screaming too if someone decided to sacrifice my daugter ... if Agamemnon was so hell-bent to go off to war then let him walk.
Clytie kept the faith and did her duty at the end, gotta like her a little. And the ax in the bath tub, worthy of Alfred Hitchcock
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the era of unix differentiation and excellent is gone. it's a 'crappy os' eat 'crappy os' running on x86 world now.
I would like it if Rackable let someone mess with the kernel tho ... a company that size should be able to afford one person and there are still customers using Tezros and Origins. IBM did it with OS/2 for years. One guy was enough and he did a lot. Fixing firewire support, fixing fm, fixing the small nagging pain in the ass aspects of Irix would not cost that much. If they didn't value the SGI brand, then why did they buy it ?
One of the reasons SGI lost so many customers is that they treated their customers like dirt (aka cash cows.) It would not hurt to turn around that perception.
If that sounds naive, we just got a major account here - after two years of being cheated by other suppliers a major company came back to us because we told the truth and don't cheat people. Believe it or not, modern United States, the traditional values do have "business" value. (And I'm not talking about the pretense of having principles which you stomp on any time it's convenient, Mr Republican Party.)
sybrfreq wrote:
... especially with a HMD.
Somewhere I just came across a study of head mounted display versus cave. They put a group of people with acrophobia in a virtual high place then dropped the floor out from under them. The cave worked better at terrifying the vic ... err, subjects. (Seven out of ten participants are hoping to be released from mental institutions any day now
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sybrfreq wrote:
Until you get an autocad drawing ... .
When that happens I close the drapes, burn some incense, invite the nice young men in their clean white suits over, check the grounding system on the computer then attempt to open the file. Usually there is a loud crack of thunder, a blazing flash of lightning and that block of town goes dark.
Autocad is the work of the devil
Ryan Fox wrote:
You can specify unit size, So one maya unit can be set to 1m, 1cm, 1 inch and so on. Read the manual
Can you take a sketch, dimension it, and get a model of the size you need ? I don't mean to imply that one way of working is better than another, but if you are used to real-world sizes ...
theinonen wrote:
I personally save my AutoCAD files to AutoCAD 2000 format, so they can be opened on most CAD software.
If you could convince other people to do that it would be great
Back to the ship .... Now I decide I want the entire thing to be a shell 13/16" thick so hit the shell tool, enter < .8125 > and awaaay we go ... I've never been able to get Maya to produce models to sizes easily. Probably couldn't make a furry animal in a cad program so easily either, but ....
(it would take forever to do this in Acad, theino. Plus if I decide that 13/16 is too thin, change one number and the entire model regenerates. Nice. Unless you're doing landscaping or architecture, grab a solid modeller ...)
squeen wrote:
hamei: what cad program is that you are using on IRIX?
That's just pro/e. You can customize the fonts to make it look more Irixxish.
If Unix-M were here we could get into a war; he likes Catia and I-DEAS better
Principle is the same tho ... seems that a lot of people want to "start learning 3d modelling" but they neglect to consider cad programs. If you are interested in modelling to an accurate size and shape, a cad program would be another way to go. And if someone is interested in it as a possible profession, cad is certainly worth considering.
ajerimez wrote:
... what would you say are the best advantages of Pro/E, Catia, or I-DEAS? I've never used any of them.
I bet there's not a nickel's worth of difference between them, it's mostly personal taste. Kind of like Ford or Chevvy, they're all professional applications and they all do a very good job, whichever one you like is the one that best fits your brain wiring ....
I don't disagree with you about the differences between cad and animation, just think that maybe if people are looking at this as a possible career, don't overlook the boring mechanical engineering side. It's not so boring and there might be more jobs in that field. Making the coolest monster in the universe could get old when you're forty-five, where designing a boring refrigerator that you then see for sale at the Amana store, that can be pretty neat.
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And do you have any opinions on Microstation?).
No, but I should try it some day. Those guys have been around a long time ....
theinonen wrote:
I have never used Autocad for 3D-stuff or really done any 3D-CAD work, so can not comment on that. I would use 2D-CAD (or drafting app, as dc_v01 would say) for drawing something like that..
I was stubborn for a long time too. But now I'm easy-going and flexible
I've never liked 2D. Even DOS Cadkey was 3D, although wireframe. If you make the model in 3D then you have every view you need from one piece of work and there's a much reduced chance for errors.
The thing that is so appealing about a solid model is that you make one model, then everything is derived from that. (In China most factories make 2D drawings then create a 3D model from that. Talk about backwards ...)
Once your model is done, your drawings are (basically) done. Choose "New", select "drawing" then pull your model onto the sheet. Choose top, side, left, right, whatever views you want. The model is accurately dimensioned already, just choose which dimensions you want to show. Now here's the beauty of it : something is not so great about your model. You need to change the wall thickness or whatever. Open the model, change that feature. Click "regenerate" and the model will rebuild. Now open your associated drawings - yup. Drawing are all changed to match. Woo-hoo, no work required !
Need to know physical characteristics ? Weight, mass, center of gravity ? Click click. What if we want to make this lighter ? Change material to aluminum, click click.
Hmm, changed from steel to aluminum, should check for strength. Take this same model, drop it into an analysis program. Constrain it, apply a load. Ah ! Exceeds material strength in this area. Change model, everything regenerates once again.
Are you starting to see that the real beauty of these programs is not even the initial uses of the model ? It's how easy it is to make changes and have everything keep coordinated. Effortlessly ! Tnis is something a computer really is good at.
We think this thing is okay now, let's make a test part. Take the same model, use it for generating a machining program. Cut five, test to see if they behave as predicted ... if not, no biggy. Make your changes, everything you need to do changes along with.
You get everything from one model in a solid modelling program. For most things the 3d solid model is not that much harder to make than a simple 2d drawing. I admit that for some stuff I still use a wireframe program I've had for years. That's because it's really fast and I'm used to it. But for anything beyond totally trivial, that's stupid (Sometimes I qualify.) You get so much more from the same amount of effort put into a 3d solid model that anything else is retarded not a good idea
Just in case someone else has this problem ...after a lot of hassling I found that I could manually mount remote resources. I could also mount remote resources using the gui. But if I tried to do it the easy way, from the toolchest -> desktop -> shared resources, no dice. The /hosts directory was there, I messed with that a bit thinking its permissions got butchered somehow but that didn't help. Autofs was chkconfigged on but I redid all that anyway. Still no dice. Looked under man autofs (when all else fails rtfm) and it mentioned the mount point for autofs'ed file systems. And the error message was "no path to ." Looked carefully, the file /etc/auto_master had somehow gone missing. I dunno,
I
didn't do nuthin ! I was just kinda walkin' thru, not runnin' or nuthin, just walkin' real slow and careful and that lamp ? you know that lamp ? the one grandma gave you for christmas ? It just fell over all by itself. Maybe there was a earthquake ?
Anyhoo, if you use the autofs method of mounting remote resources and it quits working suddenly, check for a file /etc/auto_master which tells the system where to mount remote directories. No wonder it couldn't find "." It didn't know where to look.
Anyhoo, if you use the autofs method of mounting remote resources and it quits working suddenly, check for a file /etc/auto_master which tells the system where to mount remote directories. No wonder it couldn't find "." It didn't know where to look.
SAQ wrote:
"oh, you need to update your BIOS/PROM to have it work right."
How about "you need to kiss my rosy red ass" as a response ?
Here's a clue, dipshits : we don't need to download anything . We don't need any of the crap you are selling. Pencils and paper work fine. If you would like to have an income, then maybe you should consider doing your job ?
The quality of software is generally so bad ....
dc_v01 wrote:
However, this approach pretty much universally sucks at modeling freeform surfaces. Not that you can't, but it's usually painful. This is where Maya, Blender, etc. come into play. Come in, grab the vertices on the mesh directly, push them around until it looks right to the artistic eye. Not impossible to do on the other programs but you generally don't want to try. The 3D modeling software has staked out this ground, and they excel at freeform surfaces.
It probably doesn't compare to Maya for ease of use but there are some "hybrid" modellers that supposedly work in solids or surfaces equally well. Varimetrix was one, (exclusively ?) on Irix until somewhere after version 4. I only got to play with it a little at shows but it was very nice. Now called VX and available only for Wincrap.
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I believe ME10 (which was originally HP) then morphed into a product called CoCreate.
ME10 is/was the 2D drafting program. Really nice interface, almost as good as DOS Cadkey. It supposedly ran on Irix too, but I've never seen the Irix version anywhere in the real world. The 3D modeller was ME30. There was also a knockoff of ME30 done by some of the same people, and then that 3D Eye from Trispectives tried being a surfaces / solids hybrid. That one was sort of halfway between CAD and animation. It turned into IronCAD later on ?
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/3D%2FEYE+ ... a017435872
I wonder why it never took off ? It should have. Ran on Windows and everything
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PTC -
PARAMETRIC
Technology Corporation, the makers of Pro/E - recently bought CoCreate and appear to be pushing it
quite heavily
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Yeah, what's up with that ? CoCreate was awful. PTC bought DesignWave which was really good and flushed it down the toilet. Then they buy this pile of poop and remake it then peddle the hell out of it. Weird.
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This might be a good opportunity to compare your favorite 3D modeler with a CAD program, although I think you'd miss a lot of the power of parametric modeling..
Get BRL for free, it's the same crappy 'stick anything anywhere" system
I'm still surprised that there is no good CAD program for Linux. In fact, there's not even any potential projects working on it. There's a few goofy pretenders but nothing solid. Nothing except Blender in the animation type software, either, is there ? Any ideas why that would be ?
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we're talking quailty ! That thing is cool, kjaer. Nice find !
Pretty soon nekochan will have more Irix-related information than SGI does
Rhys wrote:
This whole post is horrifying. Especially the part about trading a PDP-11 for a fracking Lisa.
Depends on the Lisa, I would think ....
bigD wrote:
^^^ what a fantastic rac...err...banner!
Where can you apply for a position as Little Dutch Boy ?
R-ten-K wrote:
Neither. Please.
Really ? Liza Minelli is good. Have you ever seen her in real life ? She can sing her ass off, honestly. And you thought Cabaret was bad ?
The other Lisa, well ... was not kind to use her as an example. She had a bad week. But still, even if she fell off the sanity wagon, she was an astronaut. That's worth something.
deBug wrote:
Interesting presentation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTC_RxWN_xo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTC_RxWN_xo&feature=related
I can't see youtube from here ... but I remember before Silicon Valley existed. That was the most productive orchard land in the United States and they ruined it. After decades of patting themselves on the back for their independence and "entrepreneurial spirit" (and the H1B visas) about six months ago a Silicon Valley Economic Task Force admitted that the major reason that SV had been such a success was federal funding of all the feeder facilities and they were whining for the feds to hand out the cash again. And I see where Andy Grove is now bemoaning the loss of jobs and facilities to Asia. Way to go, Grove. Horse, barn door ? Convenient that you only bothered to consider this after you personally made many millions of dollars disemboweling the United States ?
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/co ... 358596.htm
You could make a pretty good case that where Silicon Valley has gone demonstrates a lot of what is wrong with the US.
kshuff wrote:
More like foot, gun, bang.
Yeah. His gun, our foot.
SAQ wrote:
They should work if you put the "installation tools" disk (that supports Fuel) in the CD drive and select the diagnostics option - that's the way it works for the IDE diagnostics, anyway.
SAQ - I believe the Fuel diagnostics are entirely separate. That's a pretty crappy deal and I'd love to be proven wrong but alas ....
j5reward wrote:
Actually I'll sell it for $ 225. if anyone is interested.
Trade for two (2) 800mhz pimms ?
87Porsche wrote:
Please take it.
Yay !
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Kansas City area.
Boooo
bigD wrote:
Done! And here are some pics:
I see a red door and I want it painted black
no colors anymore I want them to turn black ...
pentium wrote: My camera is also about to kick the bucket. Low light pictures are starting to show off too many dead pixels and I don't have the money to replace it or risk buying a camera from London Drugs and returning it before the two week return policy expires. Looks like I have to drag out the crap consumer grade Kodak.
You know, having a camera changes the experience quite a bit. It would not be a bad thing to forget the camera entirely.
sybrfreq wrote: I do enjoy using the gimp, but more than half of the time it will crash while saving or loading a file especially when running on windows.
Don't get PhotoShop. It's as bad or worse.
Software is crap.
Most of the time I just use it to crop or scale a picture.
I do that in imgview but irfanview works pretty well on Windows for that type of thing.
A 900mhz o2/indy? Wouldn't the bottleneck just be shifted to somewhere else?
Of course, but the bottleneck would be moved up the hill to a faster spot
mapesdhs wrote: SGI told me categorically the PROM source will not be released.
That was before we made them an offer they couldn't refuse ....
mapesdhs wrote:Code: Select all
In response to your request to release the prom code, our position is
unchanged. Similar to Intel's treatment of PAL as a micro-architecture
extension of their processor, SGI manages PROM source as strictly
proprietary and any release to the public domain is not an option.
Umm, there's a few key words in there that you seem to have missed - "public domain" being the most significant. I'm not saying they should or would but allowing a qualified person or even an SGI insider to modify the PROM to permit a 900 mhz cpu to operate does not even resemble "release into the public domain."
I'd much rather see a decent port of Firefox 3 for IRIX atm than a CPU bump.
All of use would certainly like to see a quality browser running on Irix but whether that would be Frieflop, that's a different question. IMNSHO Fireflop 3 is pig shit and we should look for something better as a starting point. But as a viable project, a decent browser should be doable. Phoenix started from less.
mapesdhs wrote: I'm already using Firefox3 on my PC, looks perfectly fine to me. It certainly isn't pig-whatever. I like it.
For a pig shit operating system such as Windows it's quite suitable. For Irix, it most certainly is pig shit.
1.) The fireflop people insisted on using gtk2. Gtk2 is crap, especially on older hardware that doesn't have the horsepower to voercome the garbage software.
2) It's fundamentally garbage. Any non-trivial program in a multi-tasking environment needs to be multi-threaded with one thread listening for operator input and the rest running the program. In the case of a browser, there should be at least one thread for every tab. Sitting there locked out of the interface because other pages are loading is total crap and it's been total crap for at least fifteen years. These people couldn't pour piss out of a boot with instructions written on the heel.
3) Memory management - 'nuff said. That thing is trash.
4) Those dodos do not know what they are doing. Look through Dexter1's thread on the basic fundamental flaws in their programming. Plus the smarmy bastards refuse to listen to competent relevant criticism. So much for the thousand hands thousand hearts spew.
5) What is with all the stinking stupid Mommy's Little Helpmate popups ? Phoenix was born as a need to strip down and remove the excess crap from Mozilla. Then people fell in love with the lean mean machine so the poor widdow Mozilla Foundation, instead of listening to what people actually want, found it necessary to co-opt the program people liked and destroy that. Not only do we not need all that trash running in the background, we cannot afford it on 600 mhz, non-integer-optimized cpus.
The entire thing is pig shit. The people are pig shit, concerned with the "market share" of a free program rather than the quality.. It's a stupid bumblebee and our computers don't have the metabolism to make that work.
eMGee wrote:
No, the Mayn.de hasn't closed in 2006. I still saw it around a few months ago.
It may be there but last time I looked, there was nothing inside. rhoenie has left the building
skywriter wrote:
i don't know why you would want to run anything less than your machine is capable of..
I got mxaudio for 5.3 there and it works S-U-P-E-R !! on 6.5.30. Great mp3 player. There were some other small programs there that were really handy, too.
PymbleSoftware wrote:
Please report what specifically is broken.. We need to know what need to be reverted... I haven't updated nekoware in a awhile but I've not seen anything broken.
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=16724791
Everything by darkfires, okay ? It's all junk. Install that stuff and your computer will break, bigtime. Busted busted busted no damn good. I tried to bring this up politely and all I got was a bunch of namby-pamby bullshit by josehill . Now you're going to pretend that thread never happened ?
Well guess what, people ? If you want this stuff to work you can just get off your la-dee-da asses and do something about it. Either that or bye-bye SGI usefulness. Without nekoware, this platform is deader than Publius Maximus.
ShadeOfBlue wrote:
Just an idea... Would it perhaps be easier if there was a separate subforum for nekoware packages?
I asked that once myself. Mr Neko quite rightly pointed out that that's what the "Development" forum is for. There's a "Software" forum for general talk about programs ... although maybe a semi-agreed upon standard for reporting on beta apps could be good. Like the [eBay] label we sort of used to have : maybe [beta report] or similar in the subject line ?
Mr Neko, I did report on a lot of those application, but was trying to be too polite and not drive off a potential developer. Won't make that mistake again : they are BAD. Bad bad bad. Many of them are quite totally broken, as Alver poihted out. The worst of the Linux World came to our little backwater of the Internet. Cosmos is laughing, Tux it up !
If anybody wants to flame me, you have permission. I'll take care of that annoying pain in the ass for you ...