The collected works of hamei - Page 35

For those who don't have access to MIPSPro, I stuck this together. Maybe should be done with gcc, hmm. Guess we'll find out :)

All the settings are in the pluggerrc file, hopefully some people who are better at scripting then me will jump in here.

This is plugger 5.1.3, there is also a mozplugger but it refuses to compile with a sane compiler so to heck with it.

Any feedback and help is welcomed. It might be nice if people who get one helper app or another to work, post what they did so others don't have to duplicate effort ?

This is not ready for tardisting, play at your own peril. My flopsy didn't crash yet tho and shows ...

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Some help :

http://fredrik.hubbe.net/plugger/troubleshooting.html
geo wrote:
.. curse the weather up there hehe sorry ham

Wait til August. You'll be begging to go to qiqihaer :P
Had it working in 2 but apparently things are different in ff3. FF3 is Unicode ? Do I need Unicode fonts to display Chinese / Japanese / Irish ?

Already did Edit -> Preferences -> Content -> Language -> 1)English 2)Chinese 3) Japanese no help :(
geo wrote: hi jns! you can put this on your profile location through User Control Panel ;)

95% chance it's an aspiring spammer, geo.
This is kind of a shock :

http://www.nekochan.net/weblog/archives ... -offi.html

Happy Birthday and thank you squeen and semi, wherever you are now :D
canavan wrote:
I'm uploading an updated package right now...

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One vote for current ... kind of nice, I never could get the older version to run reliably.

edit : This one is interesting ... if you just click on the icon, it opens as an HP 33 with no window frame (That could be a leftover config file in my $HOME ?) If you open from a command line, you get several choices of HP calculators form a decision box. If you right-mouse on the icon, you also get several model choices.

For a desktop computer calculator, it's pretty nice. Definitely a vote to put into currrent.
Classic - I just bought a new 15k 74 gig Toshiba (aka Fujitsu) sca scsi drive for $15. An adapter would be another $3 ...
Today is the ninth anniversary of nekoware. Yay ! :D

http://www.nekochan.net/weblog/archives ... -offi.html

Thanks to all the people who made tardists. It's a lot of work for not much thanks, we do appreciate it ...
Okay le, edumacate me :

Jpegs lose info every time they are saved, that's not good.

Png's do not, but they are much bigger. Not as big as a tiff but definitely not small


So we try to work with tiffs but in many cases they are huge and cumbersome. PNG's are better to work with and don't have the disadvantage of losing info as you work with them. They seem to be pretty accurate. Good compromise.

So the png squishing seemed like a good idea. Not big and not lossy.


However, we tried several real-life tests of various photos turned to jpeg versus squished with various png-compressors.

In every case, the jpeg was both smaller and more accurate. Readng the description of what the compressor did, I was surprised the png-squished photos were as good as they are but still ... if you work with the png then restrict yourself to jpegging at the end, it seems that you get a smaller more accurate photo.

So what would be the advantage of compressed png's ?
jjacocks wrote:
Proprietary keyboards are one of the peripherals that I try not to have, unless there is no choice.

I loved my HP-HIL keyboard. It was the only one I've ever seen with the F keys down the left side of the keyboard, where you could actually use them.

And the HIL trackball was the best ever. Great big huge ball, smooth action, excellent control, very comfortable.

If someone made a USB-to-HIL adapter I'd grab one in a flash and go with the HP input hardware.

HP made good stuff back then. Thanks so much, Carly you loser.
smj wrote:
Uhm yes, they most certainly do. Though I have no idea whether or what role any spreadsheet may have played...

Thanks so much, sm. Another myth down the drain. I thought that the stinking thieving banksters at least had sophisticated tools to accomplish their dirty work.

Somehow it's even worse knowing that, for instance, JP Morgan robs the middle class blind with all the profits coming from government subsidies, aka taxpayer theft, by using chicken-shit tools anyone can buy for a buck at the corner software stand ... this has got to be the biggest con game in history.

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... If they think they can make money ...

They don't make money. They are all broke, insolvent, penniless. They conned / scared the US government into paying for all their gambling losses when their retarded Ponzi scheme and the FDIC frauds blew up. They are nothing but criminals. Every single penny of "profit" they make is actually a penny stolen from the middle class, rerouted into their vaults in the Bahamas.

And they have not been stopped. Next time will be even worse : bankers are thieves. Watch and see.

What do you think will happen if the 99% ever wake up ?
commodorejohn wrote: The idea that we've reached (or will reach) some kind of transcendent state wherein software runs in an ethereal realm of Pure Computation where the concerns of the physical processor world cannot touch it is futurist silliness.

Nothing new here ... in our entire world, reality has no influence on the wackoffmeisters in control.
diegel wrote: Hamei, can you please check if some of your crashes disappear with this libraries.

Got them installed, thank you.

The weirder crashes seem to have gone away with a thorough house-cleaning. This installation is almost ten years old and I'm not afraid of /beta (bites one in the ass sometimes) so there was some cruft in there ... I still get crashes but now they are almost all just :

Code: Select all

urchin 2% moz_run_program[36]: 1405 Memory fault

Thanks again, will see how it goes. One small step for man ... :D
commodorejohn wrote: Don't get me started, man.

To head back towards the subject ... :)

Speaking of futurist fantasy wackoffmeisters, it's kind of funny. Since about 1980 they have all been castigating Japan for a "lack of growth ! stagnation ! what will they do when the older generation retires ?" and other conventional-wisdom bullshit.

Meanwhile, the oracles in the west put all their eggs into the finance basket.

Japan is now doing fine, about the same as they have for the past two thousand years, while the US is bankrupt and inflating its money to weimar heights in order to pretend that their retarded ponzi scheme was a viable way to live.

Japan and probably Fujitsu will still be around in another hundred years.
foetz wrote:
i tried some of the problematic sites listed here earlier and nothing happened to me either

It does seem better - only disappeared poof ! once yesterday. I used it reasonably hard - a few windows, lots of tabs ... seems that diegel is correct, it's most likely bad sites that cause crashes. I am pretty sure that ff doesn't like slow connections and missing urls and bad dns. It is not what you would call robust.

Here's an interesting thing - watching FF with gmemusage : on several occasions closing a tab caused memory usage to go up instead of down ! And I noticed that memory usage in general rises the longer you use ff, no matter what one is doing.
foetz wrote:
hamei wrote:
Classic - I just bought a new 15k 74 gig Toshiba (aka Fujitsu) sca scsi drive for $15. An adapter would be another $3 ...

for 15 bucks :o ebay??

They claim it was new. Came wrapped up properly. Looked new. Reports itself correctly. Around here it's pretty hard to tell but has been working now for a week.

I am not unhappy with it so far :D
The radar guy wrote: It's for this reason that I need an editing tool, running from CD, to view/edit the contents of the HD without starting IRIX.

Could they have made some files user-viewable but not root-viewable ? So you can only access them as that (semi-secret) user ?

Anyway, first I would try working with a copy of the disk rather than the real thing. Second, there is a utility called "Raise Data Recovery" that is intended to rescue deleted files from an xfs file system. That might give you slightly lower-level access to what's on the disk. It's not very expensive and they have a free limited version that might do everything you want.

If nothing else works, that might be worth a try.

--
"I am not a crook !" (Dick Nixon)
ClassicHasClass wrote:
3.0 had some pretty egregious leaks in it.

I could probably tolerate a little leakage ...
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but yeah, there's some mishandling of something going on ....
MrBill wrote:
... reseated everything. Cpu, memory, the main cpu board, video card ...

Mr Bill ... you don't have a video card. You have a graphics card. In an Octane, they are not the same.
smj wrote:
Octane, or O3x0? Or did I misread that 8GB physmem total...?

O 35 0 . After ten years had to move from the Fuel for the high-res display project*. Still running on the same installation though :D


* You don't actually have to, a Fuel with a single V12 / DCD can achieve 3840 x 2400. But machine lust .....

edit : was going to ask about bookmarks but I see ... it's just clunky, not broken. The browser is okay but all the popup menus and windows are kind of a pita.
vishnu wrote: The IRIX default image viewer, followed by XV, then Photoshop, failing that I use my Linux box... :mrgreen:

vishnu, vishnu, vishnu ... what're we gonna do with you ? Linux ? You'll go blind doing that :shock:

Go to /beta, grab the graphics magick tardist and install.

< gm display filename > will open a window displaying the file you ask for.

Or < gm display > will hop up a frog. Click on his window, you'll get a menu of choices. Lots of choices. Graphics Magick will display and manipulate just about anything. (XBM and XPM as well as all the modrun stuff, for instance.)

I agree that imgview is probably the best choice. Comes with Irix and displays just about any graphic you want. It's also fast.
bjornl wrote:
Four months ago I got a half height Onyx4 rack that has just enough space for these parts.

Lovely looking thing, isn't she ?

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A nice replacement would be an Origin 350 with graphics hack and get an "Onyx 3000".


With all the cpus you have, I'd replace that brick and one more with a V-brick or X-modded-to-V-brick. Then you could have four V-12's ... just enough to drive a T221. Or two V-12's and one of those nice Eizo dual-input displays.

I am definitely jealous :(
robespierre wrote:
in 2005 I learned that an XL1201 was sold via an email exchange for $5000. That is the desktop version that cannot support color graphics; by comparison I have heard of an XL1200 selling for $10,000.

Assignats ! more assignats !! We need more assignats !! :D
Oskar45 wrote: ... my favourite songs ... The Wild Geese aren't played these days too often anymore...

You like ping sha luo yan ? I'm impressed. Have several recordings by various players if you like ...
If you're like me, over the years you download and install a few fonts, then a few more, then it gets to be a big mess. It was all more or less okay until I installed Firefox 3. Then when I tried to get cjk to show up, all heck broke loose. Everything I did would send Firefox into a different visual universe. Time to clean up the mess.

Corrections to this are welcome, I just had to figure it out as I went along and probably am wrong in plenty of areas ...

Turns out, Irix is a little complicated. Not that the individual parts are complicated but it's been added to and added to and added to over the years, so it doesn't work quite like you expect.

Irix is traditional, so it uses the X Font Server. No problem, all the normal xfs commands like < xset fp > and < xset q > work fine. For instance :
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urchin 1% xset q
Keyboard Control:
auto repeat:  on    key click percent:  0    LED mask:  00000000
auto repeating keys:  0080ffe9fdffffff
fdffffff7cffffbf
ffff3f0000000000
0000000000000000
bell percent:  50    bell pitch:  1810    bell duration:  200
Pointer Control:
acceleration:  6/1    threshold:  9
Screen Saver:
prefer blanking:  yes    allow exposures:  yes
timeout:  600    cycle:  1200
Colors:
default colormap:  0x45    BlackPixel:  0    WhitePixel:  16777215
Font Path:
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID/
Bug Mode: compatibility mode is disabled
Auto Repeat Rate: timeout = 66, interval = 4
DPMS (Energy Star):
Display is not capable of DPMS

Okay, cool, there's the font path ! And you look there and there's the fonts ! /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ Easy-peasy, right ?

No.

Irix used Display Post Script, so the real scalable vector fonts (Adobe Type1) live in /usr/lib/DPS/outline/base The fonts in the fontpath are all symbolic links. So if you really want to clean up the mess, you have to work with the base fonts in the /usr/lib/DPS tree.

Directions are here :

http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/tpl/cgi ... /ch03.html

This is all great but of course nothing in life is supposed to be that easy. If you are running 6.5.22+ then SGI did one more thing to screw you up : the fonts in /usr/lib/DPS/outline/base are not the real fonts now either . Or to be more accurate, some of them are, others are imposters. When they went to 6.5.22 SGI went el-cheapo on what they supplied while remaining the high-priced spread on what they charged. Any clues here about how to go out of business ?

There are now a bunch of phony fonts in /DPS/outline/base that they downloaded off the Internet. Everything with an SH in the name is a freeby download. There is also a file called < fonts.alias.artifex > Artifex is the company behind ghostscript. That alias file redirects all the requests for Adobe fonts to free reproductions of the Adobe fonts.

Here is the political part - I can understand why they did things this way. They don't have to pay Adobe the ridiculous license fees for something that is not even interllectual property. (Type 1 fonts are nothing but data files, why does Truetype even exist ?) Users aren't inconvenienced by having entire systems changed. All they did was substitute free fonts for the Adobe fonts and redirect the server. Cool, bro.

But, in my case, I have a PostScript printer with Adobe fonts installed and I'd like to have what I see onscreen be exactly what gets printed. I have wondered for a long time why it wasn't. Helvetica is Helvetica, right ? unless it's not ... So if you like you can do this : ditch the freeby fonts and the fonts.alias.artifex file. Go through the techpubs process linked above. Restart. Should work. (I actually moved everything to a different directory and saved it just in case.)

It should also be possible to make a political statement by ditching the overpriced Adobe fonts and renaming the free SH fonts to the Adobe names .. hmm :)

You may have a problem now. If you have customized your desktop, the settings from Heavenetica may not match the settings for HelveticaReal. You'll get a bunch of bitmap fonts and error messages. All I had to do to fix that was run back through the Toolchest -> Desktop -> Customize sequence to reset everything.

Fonts are definitely a pita to organize and utilize, but at least if you know where they really are and what's really happening, it should be easier to deal with them however you like. This doesn't cover the ghostscript / gtk2 / fontconfig stuff but at least it describes the basic root fonts in Irix. And I'm starting to like the idea of a remote x font server more and more ...

Corrections welcomed, I'd like to understand this mess better myself ...
recondas wrote:
..... you could also try connecting to the numerically lowest (external) serial port.

I can confirm that connecting to the COM1 port on a Fuel works. That's how I normally do it.
Where does /usr/sbin/desktop write to ?
Doesnt seem to hurt anything but just out of curiosity, what causes this ?
Code:
checking fontconfig/fontconfig.h usability... yes
checking fontconfig/fontconfig.h presence... no
configure: WARNING: fontconfig/fontconfig.h: accepted by the compiler, rejected by the preprocessor!
configure: WARNING: fontconfig/fontconfig.h: proceeding with the compiler's result
checking for fontconfig/fontconfig.h... yes
checking for FcConfigCreate in -lfontconfig... yes


How can fontconfig.h be usable but not present ?
FF3, got three windows and about ten tabs per open, we're talkin Dodge Charger now !

Code:
cc-3316 cc: ERROR File = contextchain.c, Line = 2408
The expression must be a pointer to a complete object type.

ggcd[i][k].data = (void *) (intpt) CID_GlyphList+(0*100+i*20);
^


Any idears for this ? Tons of them ...
Code:
cc-1185 cc: WARNING File = contextchain.c, Line = 2422
An enumerated type is mixed with another type.

ggcd[i][k].gd.flags = gg_visible | gg_enabled;
^

foetz wrote:
write what? settings? errors? ...

Settings / configuration info. It's the Toolchest -> Desktop -> Customize -> Desktop application. Trying to get some fonts a little bigger, and put it in a place that's repeatable.
duck wrote:
desktop(1) states
Code:
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$HOME/.Sgiresources
$HOME/.desktop-<hostname>/Desktop
$HOME/.desktop-<hostname>/desktopenv
$HOME/.desktop-<hostname>/panelsession
$HOME/.desktop-<hostname>/FmState


however, the font size attribute apparently gets written to $HOME/.desktop-<hostname>/Sizes with values of "small, medium and large"

Guess I coulda tried < man desktop > , hunh ? Dum dum dum dum dum, dum bee doo bee dum ..
Thanks for the tactful kick in the butt :D
mapesdhs wrote:
... but for the green LED I wouldn't know it was even turned on.

Those green LED's are pretty noisy, I guess ?
jpstewart wrote:
Do you have settings for CFLAGS and/or CPPFLAGS?

My guess (and it's just a guess at this point) is that you've got -I/some/path in your CFLAGS so that the compiler can find the file, but that it's not in your CPPFLAGS so that the preprocessor (when run alone) cannot find it.

ho ho ! Close inspection revealed a fat-finger typing error in the environment ! Thanks, jp, that solved it.
Gene is unnerving even when he pretends to be normal. Johnny Depp is an act. Gene is .... something else entirely .
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recondas wrote:
The f.lux web site wrote:
During the day, computer screens look good—they're designed to look like the sun. But, at 9PM, 10PM, or 3AM, you probably shouldn't be looking at the sun.

I wonder if you don't achieve the same thing just by turning down the brightness ? Also, over time I've gone away from the flashy busy desktops to the plainest setup I can get, and the eyes are much happier.

An odd thing I've noticed with FF3, and that's that gtk2 fonts are perhaps too sharp ? are slightly blurry shapes easier on the eyes than knife edges that never occur in nature ?
SAQ wrote:
As in "fast" or "breaks often"?

I was thinking about the ones with the long chassis, fringed cowboy tires, comfy seats and shapely grilles ... were they fast, too ?
duck wrote:
This happens because void does not have a size, you can't go (void *)+1 because it won't know how much to increase it by. With gcc, it defaults to char bits IIRC. Not sure how to fix that, perhaps add a char * variable to do the arithmetic and then pass it to data.

Thanks, mr. duck. I'll try to follow up on this ....

Quote:
You can ignore these, it's those gcc people who think that enum = int

And they were such nice young lads before they turned to fascism :(
jan-jaap wrote:
If the warnings bother you ...

The error is more bothersome than the warnings, that's for sure :D

Quote:
Wise men don't go there ;)

I don't want to either but the newer FontForge has support for pango, cairo, infinality and the rest so that now, with FF3 in the crib, some of that is more worthwhile.

btw, are any of youse guys gonna vote for FF3 to go to /current ? I know it sometimes crashes still but it's not worse than FF2 and at least the crashes are better described.

Code:
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'
what():  std::bad_alloc

is a lot more descriptive than just disappearing like the Cheshire cat. The pages it does work on (non-teeny-bop pages seem to be fine) are nice.
recondas wrote:
If no one else steps up to mention they've experienced a bad_alloc crash with ff3, and that rolled-forward installation goes back as far as your first Fuel ( 2005? ), might it be possible you have just the just the right combination of historic installs, uninstalls, upgrades and hardware switches to be causing the bad_alloc grief?

I'd be the last one to keep ff3 out of current because of the bad_alloc crashes* ! In fact, I want it to go GA.

I don't think it's the installs uninstalls and so on causing the cashes tho. Firefox 3 isn't very good. You just don't see it because you have fast internet connections, reliable dns and straight-thru links to advertising. Run it on a fresh install on a high-resolution display, split down the middle (right where you are displaying the application) into channel 0 and channel 1, with a slow connection and lying dns and many sites that never appear - many sites that the buffoons of today's web insist on linking to -- and you'll see some bad behavior as well :) And oh yeah, all the crap javascript that litters the landscape .... FF3 is a piece of shit. It's just the best piece of shit we're going to get and I'm personally happy to have it.

(Back to fontforge, god only knows what ff3 does with fonts. Any time you change anything in your font path, the entire browser changes. It's insane.)

* Those are actually the minority. Normally it's just a memory failure, kaboom disappear. Sometimes when sitting idle, doing nothing.
How come things like this don't go somewhere they can be used ? No smaller colleges, universities, institutes doing anything that can utilize a fairly powerful computer ? Sure, it's a step back but for $2,000 you get a lot of oomph ... It's not like this is twenty years old and less powerful than your average telephone.