The collected works of hamei - Page 25

vishnu wrote:
The trick with editres is to use it to flash the widgets until you find the right one, then change the resource for that. It's the filemanager scrollbar that you're trying to modify, or what?

All the scrollbars, actually. Title bar, menu bar, frames were pretty easy. Just have to find the scroll bar now.

One reason I never liked editres before was that it was so huge, you could only see about three widgets on-screen at a time. Now it's better :) There are probaly some changeable defaults to deal with that but I never bothered.

While on the subject, does anyone know where to find mre ? The original Motif Resource Editor ? It was apparently common in the very early days but seems to have turned to coal :(

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What version of Fireflop do you use?

Diegel's latest. I use the SGI Irix platform :)

The exact same problems exist in Windows tho, which I use daily so that I can have reliable data for bitching purposes. That and to ensure that the Asisstant hasn't downloaded half the oeuvre of the entire Korean pop singer subclass ...

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I don't use my SGI to browse anymore, since my Linux box is sitting right next to it and I "upgraded" to Fireflop 15 last night, it seems to work pretty good... :shock:

Fireflop works fine as long as you're a Nazi . (Derived from the saying of a Jewish friend : "The third reich was actually pretty good - as long as you were a nazi.") If you have a fast connection and go along with their program, it's fine. Yes, sir ! No, sir ! three bags full, sir !

But if you are not "normal", well, off to the camps. If you have a slow connection and flaky dns, fireflop sucks. If you want to change it to suit your ideas of appearance and functionality, too effing bad. "Download this extension ! Download that extension !" Go stick a ten inch dildo up your butt, jack. I don't want fifty-three fricking extensions, I want to change the text size in the menu bar without changing the text size everywhere else.

The real killer with this pos is that it's basically designed wrong. Every tab should be a separate process. We have fast multi-core processors these days. We've moved past the 486DX. Who cares about the .000032 second overhead of creating a new process ? What us users care about is not locking up the entire application when one page is very slow or refuses to load at all. And it would be real nice if one page crashing did not take down the entire application. Sure, if you are on the termination point of a T1 line you'll never see this. But out here in East Bumfuckistan, we have these problems. And they are extremely annoying.

but hey ! they're number one in market share ! (for a free product, ain't that special ?)

edit: editres is a lot easeir to use with higher resolution ... you can actually see more of the structure. So I can find the scroll bars, I can change their trough color, I can move them around, I can see a category for "width" but the scroll handle is unresponsive to changing that resource. Does the size of the pixmap that is the scroll handle determine the width, do you s'pose ?
vishnu wrote:
Mitch Trachtenberg wrote mre, you could axe him about finding source or a binary, his gmail is mjtrac, my guess would be he'll tell you it's obsolete crap and to use editres anyway.

What the heck, never hurts to try. Obsoletecrap is my middle name :)

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... fireflop can't seem to instantiate itself without grabbing at least 135 meg of RAM.

11,895k here but doesn't seem to handle it very well ...

Code:
ALERT: Process [firefox-bin] 1238 generated trap, but has signal 11 held or ignored
epc 0x437c6a0 ra 0x4346bec badvaddr 0x64007c
process has been terminated to prevent infinite loop
WARNING: core: firefox-bin: PID 1238, failed to write a  text area (core file deleted)
moz_run_program[36]: 1238 Memory fault

urchin 1% ALERT: Process [firefox-bin] 2344 generated trap, but has signal 11 held or ignored
epc 0x4454c40 ra 0x4454c40 badvaddr 0x4
process has been terminated to prevent infinite loop
WARNING: core: firefox-bin: PID 2344, failed to write a  text area (core file deleted)
moz_run_program[36]: 2344 Memory fault

ALERT: Process [firefox-bin] 3191 generated trap, but has signal 11 held or ignored
epc 0x4454c40 ra 0x4454c40 badvaddr 0x4
process has been terminated to prevent infinite loop
WARNING: core: firefox-bin: PID 3191, failed to write a  text area (core file deleted)
moz_run_program[36]: 3191 Memory fault
moz_run_program[36]: 3549 Killed
WARNING: core: firefox-bin: PID 32874, failed to write a  text area (core file deleted)
moz_run_program[36]: 32874 Abort

and about 11,895 more like unto that ...
urbancamo wrote:
I noticed yesterday that Irix and VMS are listed as 'Obsolete' operating systems and as such has been dropped from Emacs.

Emacs ? People still use that thing ?
GL1zdA wrote:
I don't think there exists now an OS, which would give you any additional benefits over what Windows-Linux-MacOSX provide you and wouldn't run on a PC or would give you any additional benefits on non-PC hardware. I would love to see some nice hardware for Icaros Desktop , but it's not going to happen because it won't run better on anything than Intel CPUs, because the all the JIT compilers are optimized for Intel hardware (look at the RAZR i benchmarks - Android for ARM is here for four years and it is worse than Intel in only one benchmark - JavaScript). But I'm still waiting for the Natami - paired with Icaros Desktop it would give a modern OS with the ability to seamlessly run Amiga programs.

Waiting waiting waiting .... for stuff we already had the seeds of twenty years ago. Free market capitalism is great, absolutely wonderful.
geo wrote:
... down here really annoying about those island and japanese conflict.. i hope all will be well soon..

There's no conflict ... just informing Japan to not rock the boat.
recondas wrote:
...... and a pseudo DM10.

I did discover if the 32-bit PCI Adaptec AFW-4300B was installed in a numerically lower PCI slot (in the PCI card cage) than the 64-bit PCI-X GigE board I'd get PCI Bridge errors during boot and neither would function reliably after boot. Installing the PCI-X board in PCI slot 1 and the 32-bit board in slot 3 resolved the issue.

I wonder if neko's lockups with the Adaptec Duoconnect in the Tezro were due to a similar peculiarity ?
GL1zdA wrote:
To be honest it's a warped version of free market capitalism. The problem is we still don't know what to do when a company is so big that it destroys the free market.

The answer to that is too obvious : if people really believe in free markets, they set up systems to protect them. As it is, all the "free market" swill being bandied about is just a bunch of lies to whitewash a plutocracy that does whatever it damned well pleases.
So a friend of a friend needed a new phone, may as well get an iPhone. Coincidentally, the i-5 just came out. Cool.

What a stupid fiasco. Why do you people up up with this horseshit ? Does anyone think that Apple has no idea how many phones they will probably sell ? They didn't have enough time to prepare ? They can't afford to stock product ? They are too fucking stupid to manage a retail operation ?

Or they are playing all you fish for fools ?

Choose one.

I wouldn't buy a doghouse from those jerks, just on general principles. Someone needs to slap those assbreaths. Hard.
dclough wrote:
If you're going to hate Apple for that reason

You mean, dislike Apple for treating their customers like dirt so they can project a phony image of themselves ? Yes. This is despicable behavior. What a bunch of jerks. If I hadn't promised to buy one they could kiss my rosy red ass.
recondas wrote:
Could you try the Duoconnect in your tezro-similar O350?

The Duoconnect left the building or I'd be happy to give it a try :(
dclough wrote:
Apple has a track record of valuing their customers and the customer experience ...

If you consider it a "good customer experience" to have some twelve year old gushing at you about how sales have "exceeded expectations" rather than having a goddamned product in stock to sell then I'll agree. Otherwise, h o r s e s h i t.

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How did Apple treat you like dirt?

This entire phony shortage is treating ALL their customers like dirt. It's a fucking telephone, not the keys to the Kingdom of God. They have the cash to buy stock. Put them on the shelves and quit screwing with people. "Oh la la ! It's an iPhone ! it will make your tits bigger and your dick harder ! Trust us !" What a pile of crap.

And the "just works" Apple os, with the "just works" Apple browser on the "just works" Apple website for preordering their "just works" phone, doesn't. It goes into an infinite loop.

As I said, if I hadn't made a promise, Apple could take their pretentious phony crap and jam it up their rose-filled asses.
zmttoxics wrote:
Maybe things are different in China?

Maybe things are different in Corte Madera. Go ahead and buy an iPhone 5. I dare you.

Oh sure, they'll hand you the indentured servant contract quicker'n mephistopheles can light a fire but buy one ? Dream on.

Went in Monday, little blue dwarf gives us the spiel about how to do it. Went home, didn't work. Apple browser, Apple website, Apple product, no dice. Looped out. Had to upgrade the operating system to get a button in a browser to function, man that is high-tech ! "It just works" yeah right. Well, he said the store gets a few extra daily to sell direct, no dice on that either. Thursday we dragged in the Macbook, found the same little misbegotten offspring of a troll and a blue ogre, asked him politely to show us how. He couldn't. "They must have changed the website."

Right.

Can we spell "imbeciles", children ? I knew we could. I was never an anti-Apple zealot but treating customers like shit doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling.

btw, there is a difference between a branded sheep and a customer.
sgi_mark wrote:
- a pair of T2000s ran iPlanet/SunOne/whatever-they-were-calling-it-back-then really well.

The iPlanet/ SunOne/ WebWhatever thing is hot. Makes Apache look like a ghost warrior.
ClassicHasClass wrote:
That said, I would certainly like a more modern non-x86 laptop, but it suffices.

Using a borrowed modern x86 lappy this very second. Has all the bells and whistles. Slower than my Fuel. What crap.

I can hardly wait to get back to a real operating system.
mia wrote:
I would buy a Longsoon if I could find a 3A, I emailed tekmote, but they don't reply to their mail. And couldn't find a us reseller that has any.


We'll call them again. Last time it was mayo mayo but phone calls are cheap. (We don't use AT&T)
kshuff wrote:
Got a problem here I can't track down. Running Windows XP and it started rebooting spontaneously

Five bucks says it's hardware ......
kshuff wrote:
Why?

Mindless, non-analytical conditioned reflex. That kind of thing has always turned out to be a failing component in my experiences.
mapesdhs wrote: Should I set the Fuel's MTU to 9000?
shady blue wrote: If you do, you should do the same for all other machines on that subnet, otherwise you will get weird errors (e.g. ssh connections will randomly disconnect, chat clients will constantly reconnect, etc.)

I have a separate subnet just for jumbo-frame-capable hardware and haven't had any problems.


My experience was that the switch is an important component in the jumbo-frame equation. I had some jumbo framers and some 10mbit devices all happy on the same subnet but if the switch doesn't negotiate well, there were problems. Finally got it all working nicely then the soho switch fried. Affordable Cisco doesn't do jumbo so it was back to square one, but 100 mbit on cisco has been much more reliable than gigabit on soho ....
guardian452 wrote:
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http://thenextweb.com/apple/2012/02/20/ ... ification/

I think I'm still young :shock: and flexible enough to be able to eventually figure it out. It's kinda like driving an automatic car for the first time-bizarre and scary, but you still get where you need to go.

This is a really stupid attitude. Change as a result of real improvements is one thing but change just to be cool is quite another. And driving an automatic was never bizarre or scary. Anyone who can write such a retarded sentence is not worth listening to.
guardian452 wrote:
I dunno.. my first was an old astro van with broken torque converter, load of cement, and crap brakes. it was kinda scary.

I had a 70-74 Ford van that was so worn out that when I drove it to the junk yard I had to bring a friend to kick the front wheels around at tight intersections :) And the 68 Eldo was so bad, I had to double up the pads on the front to reach the rotors ... my house was on top of a 2,000 foot tall hill at the time. No brakes driving an aircraft carrier down a windy road in the forest, whee :P
ItsMeOnly wrote:
http://ftp.do.id.uw.edu.pl/pub/music/Misc/sandman.mp3

the candy-colored clown ?
smj wrote:
... remember to think kind thoughts about SGI in return for them keeping these manuals online for free.

It's not exactly free. Remember that they used to sell Octanes for $50,000 apiece. Those Octanes were dependent on the operating system. When you do that kind of thing it engenders certain responsibilities.

I wouldn't automount remote directories in such a small setup tho. If the Windows machine gets turned off it totally screws up the Irix desktop (fm in particular). I'm sure there's a fix for that somewhere but if you don't have to search for it, that's some time and grief saved.
Anybody here good with outfoxing the people who write CSS ? Where's Jimmer, now that I need him ?

Apparently some website "designers" take it upon themselves to regulate how wide the display of their site can be. What happens when you go there with a high-res display is that you get a stripe of website about half the window wide down the center of your browser. This is going to be a problem with retina displays as well, I suspect.

I am ASSuming that this is done with CSS. Fireflop has a userCSS capability that I am hoping will countermand the stoopid-ass directives from runny-nosed nazi teenagers on a power trip. Any suggestions from you modern hip uptodate CSS programmers on how this might be accomplished ?

grazie grazie for your help in advance ....
PymbleSoftware wrote:
Sorry you are seeing this ugliness...

Me too :P

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Might help, thank you ...

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Who does this ? I mean, please Lord, can you just answer me this before I head off to that great Development Campus in the sky ? Or Underground, more likely ? Which moron of the thousands populating the tech sector thinks this is cool ?

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jan-jaap wrote:
Web designers who confuse a web page with DTP should be fired.

You are too kind. I'd turn them over to the Dominicans to teach them what hi-tech really is ... this is all over the place :

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Adrenaline wrote:
Since I'm in the "current generation" of newer programmers, I figured I'd reply.

So, Adrenaline ... since you've outed yourself, let me ask a question or two :

Why are "developers" incompetent nitwits ? Go look at half the websites on the Internet. Put simply, they are nonfunctional shit. To extend that thought, much of what I have to deal with that's computerized is also semi-functional shit. Maybe that's strictly in userland but from what I've seen of humanity, it's unlikely that everything in userland is crap while everything in professional-land is wonderful.

If you'd like to know, I can tell you why many manufactured goods nowadays stink ....
noth wrote: Well Illumos is the core project for OpenSolaris derived operating systems, mainly dealing with the kernel. What Joyent, Nexenta and others are making of it is extremely interesting, especially since they now have KVM. OmniOS is the current project for a pure standalone server system, if you want that, and SmartOS is for clouds, with Nexenta for storage. It's a pretty dynamic community and having Dtrace + KVM + Containers + ZFS + a modern userland makes for a pretty compelling set of platforms. And the CDDL license keeps most people happy. So what's not to like ?

What's not to like is that it's ridiculous stupid pointless shit. If people want to beat off they should download some naked pictures of girls or boys or whatever they are into, go into the closet and pull on it. The rest of this crap is a waste of time, energy, resources, and storage space.
PymbleSoftware wrote: No hamei, don't hold back, tell us how you really feel. ;)

Just look at that horse pee he's spouting. Jesus, I'd have to go home and wash if I wrote a sentence like that. It's disgusting.
ClassicHasClass wrote:
I hear the maintainer is a real jerk, though.

If the program works, he can be Ivan the Terrible for all I care. I'm sick of lovely sweet kind maintainers and shit software (could we be speaking of thee, Fireflop Dearest ?)
guardian452 wrote:
Why do you ask questions to which you already know the answers? :P

I don't actually know the answer to that ... I know why manufacturing has been decimated and why products are shoddy today but it puzzles me why programming should be so bad. I mean, we were all going to be highly-paid knowledge workers in the Brave New World.

Instead, most manufactured goods are pretty bad, there's no jobs for people who want to work with their hands and the hi-tech computing world gives us about 80% shit. People are paying big money to go to school these days but they come out of it with no skills ? It doesn't cost any more to write good code instead of the crap we see, so why ? I'm kind of curious.
bgalakazam wrote:
So to sum up, there is no Flash, no way to connect to a VPN and no way to virtualize software?

VPN : magic word = Cisco

btw, pptp = vpn only for very low values of vpn. And the absence of Flash ! is the very definition of a workstation ....
guardian452 wrote:
Monday I tried 10.8. This evening I went back to 10.6 with a wipe and reinstall and time machine restore. I can't say it's bad for every use, every machine, and every hardware, but I personally want my $20 back. It's that bad. Nothing works, it crashes, my battery is dead after 1 day of staying in standby.

But "It just workls ! it just works !"

As Bill Clinton would say, "Please define 'works'. "

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I've kinda wanted one of those powermac G5s, now that they are so cheap and I know that I'm not missing anything with the new OSX I might just dump my PC for one...

Just spent a couple weeks wandering around with a Macbook and an iPad. I was soooo happy to get back to the antique SGI box back home. Indigo Magic r00lz.

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Style is cheap (to the company)
probably most consumer products manufacturer's biggest investment; hardly cheap.

Advertising is the biggest cost. They don't spend squat on design or manufacturing, compared to advertising.

And this little stunt of creating a false shortage ... well, Assist just bought a Samsung. One third the cost, does everything the iPhone does, she walked in with money and walked out with phone and a smile. Feel free to lick my hairy balls, Apple.
PymbleSoftware wrote:
I can't wait for your reaction to Windoze8.

I probably won't have one. Still working our way through Windows 2000 here :P
oreissig wrote:
so the iPhone is a workstation?

Definitely :P And the iPad, too. Even used one exclusively for work for the past few weeks.

Can't say it was much fun though :(
ClassicHasClass wrote:
Man, you ruin my fun.

So you're not really Ivan the Terrible ?

Damn :(
http://gorton-machine.org:8080/forms/fo ... index.html
ShadeOfBlue wrote:
I don't really see the point of a smaller iPad. If they made a 2x bigger version, now that would be interesting :)

A mini is just a Touch, so really ... I remember playing with a Touch and thinking "If this were a little bigger it could be useful."

The iPad could be pretty neat if it were more of a computer. Maybe someone will hack that new Mickeysoft thing.
kubatyszko wrote:
Time to share my hinv:

hinv -vm
Code:
CPU: MIPS R5000 Processor Chip Revision: 1.0
FPU: MIPS R5000 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 1.0
1 150 MHZ IP22 Processor


I had an R5-180 for about a year. I swear it was faster than the comparable O2. Indies are nice little computers.
Pontus wrote:
My personal view is that text is easier to read if you keep it around 80 columns wide ...

That would probably be fine but from what I can see so far, some of these dorks are locking the presentation in to pixels. This is extremely common and extremely stoopid ... When retina displays become more common, this is going to create a lot of unhappy people.

When things are a new technology, mistakes are understandable. But the web has been around for decades. We already learned what we need to know. Why is Julia the highly paid knowledge worker such an imbecile ? Let's shoot her and her so-called teachers :P
smj wrote:
Actually, kind of neat.

I thought it was ... think of every button on those machines being individually engraved (to .002" tolerances, even !)

It's tempting to say, "Look how far we've come !" but in a way, doesn't look like we've come very far at all. Those men could write complete sentences and reasonable business letters. And they had a real product. Not a single word of jargon or marketing horseshit to be found ...