This is totally inconsequential but has anyone else noticed that there is no divider bar between the HP and IBM forums in /Other Platforms ?
The collected works of hamei - Page 27
PymbleSoftware wrote: In which browser?
You're right ! That's strange ... divider line is there in Internet Exploder but not Fireflop. Two flavors of fireflop. Don't have Safari handy at the moment to check ...
What's the deal with sourceforge ? Went to grab a bit of code, the stupid download page now sticks six, count 'em six, stupid irrelevant adds in a language I don't read in my face, tells me "your download will start shortly" then cycles through this pitiful joke six or seven times before I get sick of them and close the window. WTF has happened here ? They used to be okay.
GL1zdA wrote: Have you tried Ctrl+0?
You're right. That's strange ... as you zoom in and out the separator bars come and go all over the place. Peculiar
GL1zdA wrote:
Cookies? Do you use a proxy to connect to it? Maybe cookies are lost somewhere between you and SF.
Turned off the proxy, tried a different browser on a different computer, tried the telephone ... same.
I guess they don't like people in China.
recondas wrote:
You can find all kinds of stuff on SF - maybe the people's committee in charge of the great firewall spotted something potentially subversive and added SF downloads to the do-not-pass-go list ...
They do all kinds of wacked-out stuff. I think they just get bored and see who they can mess with today Those lists are sort of useful but what gets blocked changes too frequently to depend on them. I've always wondered about IMDB though ... closest I can figure is that someone in the US bitched that the Pirate Industry was putting IMDB synopses on the covers of movies. That's why we can't mail CD's out of the country anymore ...
RIAA and SBA are more annoying than the gfw, to tell the truth. You guys can't download movies or software and the gfw never kicked in anyone's door. I'd rather have the gfw. More freedom
I'll try putting sourceforge's ip in my dns and see what happens ... news at eleven.
edit: okay, it appears that most of the hangup is the useless goddamned ignorant pos google-analytics and related tracking advertising javascript shit . Useless fucking idiots with their advertising garbage, may they rot in hell. Also the morons who wrote fireflop that can't just skip over links that never resolve, may they rot in hell along with the advertisers.
We now return you to your regularly-scheduled commercials.
recondas wrote:
Thought we'd already had
the noscript conversation.....
Have that on the Irix computer, was using Windows with the latest greatest fireflop. Sucks, but as they say, "A few pussy hairs can tow a ship."
Found this out tho -
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About Geeknet, Inc.
SourceForge.net is owned and operated by Geeknet, Inc., a publicly traded US-based company.
Geeknet's media and e-commerce web sites connect millions of influential technology professionals and enthusiasts each day. Combining user-developed content, online marketplaces and e-commerce, Geeknet is the global technology community's nexus for information exchange, goods for geeks, and open source software distribution and services. Geeknet's network of web sites serves 34 million unique visitors each month* and includes: SourceForge.net, Slashdot, ThinkGeek, and freshmeat.net.
SourceForge.net is owned and operated by Geeknet, Inc., a publicly traded US-based company.
Geeknet's media and e-commerce web sites connect millions of influential technology professionals and enthusiasts each day. Combining user-developed content, online marketplaces and e-commerce, Geeknet is the global technology community's nexus for information exchange, goods for geeks, and open source software distribution and services. Geeknet's network of web sites serves 34 million unique visitors each month* and includes: SourceForge.net, Slashdot, ThinkGeek, and freshmeat.net.
Shit. Subverted. That answers a lot. VALoonix, yet another *nix disaster. Sold to Dice in September tho, maybe we can hope for a change for the better.
And maybe aliens will land on the roof bearing the secret of life
wreck wrote:
Things must be a little more cultured over there - I once had a gf kick in my door. Probably right after she downloaded a copy of
Fatal Attraction
.
They just feed the ducks when they get angry over here
guardian452 wrote:
No files in project, so what do you think it is?
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Description
Taking advantange of NTFS Alternate Data Streams to hide and distribute Hidden Content over the internet.
Lowering Detection rate of antivirus softwares .
Taking advantange of NTFS Alternate Data Streams to hide and distribute Hidden Content over the internet.
Lowering Detection rate of antivirus softwares .
Nice project ?
sgtprobe wrote:
Nothing wrong with cables in them self as a technical solution ...
There can be ... the one in the Fuel -- my Fuel, anyway -- dropped the disk every so often. The first time that happened I about crapped my Calvin Klein jeans. Then I learned to just move the disk to a different header on the cable and it would come back. The cable in the Fuel is a cheap piece of junk and the fargin' barstadges insisted on using a non-standard connector to the mainboard.
The Fuel is a bunch faster but it's nowhere near as nice as an Octane. I wish they'd just designed a new mainboard with the faster memory and disk system and stuck them into purple Octane3 cases.
Octane is more versatile, too. Try to put two V12's into a Tezro ...
Setting aside the fact that all CEO's everywhere are nothing but crooks, doesn't HP have accountants ? they just cough up the ten billion based on fantasies and bedtime stories ? Where is Mark Hurd, the fantastically talented leader who got paid millions because he took the big gambles, the big risks, and steered his company through parlous straits to profitability ? And how many more companies do Carly Fiorina and Meg Whitman and all their little butt-buddies have to run into the ground before the US public wakes up ? Who is stupider, the "leaders" with an IQ of three who walk off with hundreds of millions despite ruining their companies, or the drooling fools who put up with this retarded scheme where the few con artists take all the cookies while the many scrounge for crumbs?
How about we tar and feather all the lousy thieving bastards running mnc's ? Then break these pieces of shit down into manageable size ?
How about we tar and feather all the lousy thieving bastards running mnc's ? Then break these pieces of shit down into manageable size ?
sgtprobe wrote:
Since I don't have a way of connecting a CDROM to my Indigo2, I'm stuck with irix 6.5 with nothing extra that was installed when I bought it.
Fireflop just ate my reply, crap. Three times, in fact Don't open too many tabs, it can't handle it.
Code:
urchin 1% libexc(1348): FATAL ERROR __exc_cache_allocate_node: unable to allocate a new node (128bytes)
WARNING: core: firefox-bin: PID 1348, failed to write a text area (core file deleted)
moz_run_program[36]: 1348 Abort
Assertion failed in file "../../libC/lang_support/throw.cxx", line 1618
WARNING: core: firefox-bin: PID 1374, failed to write a text area (core file deleted)
moz_run_program[36]: 1374 Abort
ALERT: Process [firefox-bin] 1425 generated trap, but has signal 10 held or ignored
epc 0x1065b580 ra 0x1065b568 badvaddr 0x68007d
process has been terminated to prevent infinite loop
WARNING: core: firefox-bin: PID 1425, failed to write a text area (core file deleted)
moz_run_program[36]: 1425 Bus error
WARNING: core: firefox-bin: PID 1722, failed to write a text area (core file deleted)
moz_run_program[36]: 1722 Memory fault
WARNING: core: firefox-bin: PID 1293, failed to write a text area (core file deleted)
moz_run_program[36]: 1293 Memory fault
WARNING: core: firefox-bin: PID 1315, failed to write a text area (core file deleted)
moz_run_program[36]: 1315 Memory fault
WARNING: core: firefox-bin: PID 1348, failed to write a text area (core file deleted)
moz_run_program[36]: 1348 Abort
Assertion failed in file "../../libC/lang_support/throw.cxx", line 1618
WARNING: core: firefox-bin: PID 1374, failed to write a text area (core file deleted)
moz_run_program[36]: 1374 Abort
ALERT: Process [firefox-bin] 1425 generated trap, but has signal 10 held or ignored
epc 0x1065b580 ra 0x1065b568 badvaddr 0x68007d
process has been terminated to prevent infinite loop
WARNING: core: firefox-bin: PID 1425, failed to write a text area (core file deleted)
moz_run_program[36]: 1425 Bus error
WARNING: core: firefox-bin: PID 1722, failed to write a text area (core file deleted)
moz_run_program[36]: 1722 Memory fault
WARNING: core: firefox-bin: PID 1293, failed to write a text area (core file deleted)
moz_run_program[36]: 1293 Memory fault
WARNING: core: firefox-bin: PID 1315, failed to write a text area (core file deleted)
moz_run_program[36]: 1315 Memory fault
Anyway. Nekoware requires 6.5.22. Since there is so much useful stuff in nekoware, you should go to 6.5.22 On the other hand, nekoware also runs on 6.5.21 with a patch. If you can find 6.5.21 (used to be on the website for download but they pulled it) then that version is the best one for an Indigo2. Still has Display PostScript, still has Impressario, still has all the good stuff from when SGI was a good company with excellent products instead of a bunch of losers.
No need for a CD to upgrade. Start up the Fuel. Copy the overlay CD's into a directory structure such as CD_1, CD_2 etc etc. Then open swmgr on the Indigo2 and just drag the folders into the drop box. You can update irix over the network easily.
Updating to 6.5.21/22 requires a patch. Do that first
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So I have tried different ways of getting myself out on the internet, and so I have downloaded the mips3 version of Firefox and Seamonkey. But none of them will work.
Ja, just go 6.5.21/22. Unless you want to compile all your own software, it's worth it in the long run.
Oh. About gFTP ... you might try axyftp from nekoware /beta. As far as I can see it doesn't require any other neko libs
Code:
urchin 3# ldd /usr/nekoware/bin/axyftp
libXm.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libXm.so.1
libXt.so => /usr/lib32/libXt.so
libX11.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libX11.so.1
libXpm.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libXpm.so.1
libc.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libc.so.1
libgen.so => /usr/lib32/libgen.so delay-load
libXm.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libXm.so.1
libXt.so => /usr/lib32/libXt.so
libX11.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libX11.so.1
libXpm.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libXpm.so.1
libc.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libc.so.1
libgen.so => /usr/lib32/libgen.so delay-load
Crashed again, god I hate fireflop ... anyway, axyftp isn't perfect but works okay. It's graphical which is sometimes convenient. (Altho a good handle on command line ftp is very useful. That works almost everywhere, even on oddball systems like Windows
vishnu wrote:
Actually I think it was the utterly collapsed revenue stream for The Open Group and ICS that freed it up. I remember back in the day when a source code license for Motif was $50,000...
Greed is a short-term strategy. If we could figure out how to make people plan for events some time past next week, our world would be a lot better off
sgtprobe wrote:
I can ping every PC I have at home atleast, and go out on the internet, but anything more than that have been a complete failure.
Toolchest -> System -> System Manager -> Networking and Connectivity
You should be talking between your SGI's in but a moment
I use static ip's tho, it seems easier. I can't direct you on dhcp but as a quick hack, you can find what ip another computer is using on your network by
ping 255.255.255.255
Seems to me Windows doesn't respond to this but all real computers do
^ Very pretty
Alfa-Romeo did something like that in the thirties by putting two four-cylinder blocks end-to-end. Then they put a blower on the whole thing (driven off the middle) and won a lot of races. It was a very pretty car.
A guy in England made copies of the road-going version a few decades ago and now the copies are worth* $750,000.
Hmm. Here's another variation on the theme ...
http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/ca ... ight_8.htm
*("Worth" is in the eye of the beholder. That's what they sell for, anyhow.)
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A guy in England made copies of the road-going version a few decades ago and now the copies are worth* $750,000.
Hmm. Here's another variation on the theme ...
http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/ca ... ight_8.htm
*("Worth" is in the eye of the beholder. That's what they sell for, anyhow.)
urbancamo wrote: It's got some sore of fancy fork thing going on at the front as well?
That's called a drum brake.
Jeeze. You really know how to make a guy feel old
robespierre wrote:
Bill Gates was a strong believer in people being able to write their own software, and supported the release of Visual Basic when others opposed it.
As long as there was some way he could visualize himself making money off their efforts, certainly.
robespierre wrote:
... people who somehow think it was difficult to hack and abuse PC-DOS never used DEBUG.COM.
EDLIN. I still have nightmares ...
OKay okay, so you wanna talk computer Merlins ... how about this ?
http://www.lambdassociates.org/merlin.htm
went looking for
but this;
http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.c ... read=94551
and this;
http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread. ... ure-thread
had me in stitches
http://www.lambdassociates.org/merlin.htm
went looking for
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but this;
http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.c ... read=94551
and this;
http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread. ... ure-thread
had me in stitches
guardian452 wrote:
I need a car.. looking for something small and cheep.. (I also like pop-up headlights
)
Take a look at the early boxy cute (1985 - 1989) MR2. They don't come any smaller, 35-40 mpg, prices are low aaaand pop-up headlights !
They're reliable, go good, and handle like a go-kart. They don't need brakes - just let off as you go in and add gas at the apex. My sister had one, left it with me to babysit and I put 2,000 miles on it in a week, they are that fun to drive. She wasn't so happy about that tho ... who looks at the odometer ? Sheesh
At one time I had a Continental W670 ... I'm really glad I sold it before the strange engine disease could get into my system
But now that I think about it ... mounted amidships with an automatic transmission and some thirties-style bodywork like that German propellor-driven train ...
But now that I think about it ... mounted amidships with an automatic transmission and some thirties-style bodywork like that German propellor-driven train ...
oreissig wrote:
... visit a usual website with some javascript etc and you'll notice, that the "weight" of the OS is the smallest of all problems when running on legacy systems.
Blocking Javascript has been a big help here with Fireflop crashes. It's just like the good ol' dayes of the browser wars ...
vishnu wrote:
My place of employ made a fortune off the same concept ...
You build refrigerators ?
Gleason spent something like two million dollars (that was real money in 1975) building a grinder to profile the chambers in Wankels for GM. Then GM decided the future was not there after all ... one of their better decisions
oreissig wrote:
... there are a lot of people who may be interested in old systems, but don't want to do without youtube, facebook, twitter, ...
I was listening until you used facebook, tweeter and youtube for examples
There were a whole lot of people who thought that money grew on trees while real estate and the stock market could never go down, too. "We have conquered the business cycle with computer algorithms and quants !"
Yeah.
No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public ...
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Mozilla_Firefox
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Email Lemote directly.
Good luck with that. The girl there has been saying "any time now !" for more since before Prometheus stole fire.
oreissig wrote:
... turning off javascript or any other way of not using modern technology is not a valid solution for everyone.
Living within their means wasn't a valid choice for most people either.
The thing is, actions have consequences. If you play in the toilet, you get shit on your hands.
jwp wrote:
... they would at least want something that will be durable and last for a long time without hardware and software failure.
In that case, forget about anything that comes out of China.
Sorry, just the facts, ma'am.
This is called "setting a bad example " ... We should all work hard to thoroughly understand the tools we use - but if you want to run an application under the Solaris service management facility without having to fight your way through thirty conflicting man pages, this is pretty cool :
http://sgpit.com/smf/
http://sgpit.com/smf/
kshuff wrote:
...and lawmakers, they sit on their ass doing nothing but guess who gets a nice 2.2% pay raise here in PA on December 1st ...
Want to make yourself sick ? I was looking for some info on an Alteon device, stopped by Wikipedia :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nortel
The writing is a little amateurish but the question remains : why aren't these MBA's in prison ? Forever ? Serving a useful role in society as Bubba's loyal female canine companion ?
p.s. The fruits and nuts in California government are taking a 5% hit
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/matier-ro ... 063971.php
jwp wrote:
However, things manufactured in China for the Chinese market can vary anywhere from very low quality to very high quality.
Name one.
jwp wrote:
Most "carrier grade" and high end servers these days, including those for the big names, are likely manufactured in China.
And they are junk, built to last a couple years. Whether that is an intelligent decision or not, I can't say .. but they are crap. Generic crap. The only reason they are even as good as they are is fairly strict quality control by outside forces.
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As another example, when IBM sold their PC division to Lenovo, the quality basically stayed the same, as did the traditional designs for their business PC's and workstations.
As another example, when IBM sold their peecee products to Legend the quality immediately went down , in spite of all the controls IBM put in place to ensure this wouldn't happen. Ask SAQ. Thinkpads, for example, were always wonderful. Now they are slightly better than average (and probably on a downward spiral.) In the US, bad drives out good. I hope Europe is less subject to this syndrome. If not, please don't say anything. I'd like to retain this fantasy.
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By contrast, companies like eMachines and Dell are using Chinese manufacturing as well, but they aren't willing to pay more for high quality standards, and the designs are meant to lure customers with the latest whiz-bang, while being housed in overheated flimsy plastic cases.
One may hate IBM (or that emotion may have dissipated) but they are a superior company. They did realize that letting some Chinese company have their product line was going to hurt their reputation so they actually did something about it. They put a lot of safeguards in place to ensure that the decline in quality would not be laid at their doorstep. Give Legend another five years and the entire "IBM" line will be junk. They've already started down that path. Luckily (or contractually, if IBM is smart - and they seem to be) the IBM name has left the building. And Legend is one of the better companies.
Chinese companies just can't help themselves. They have to "improve" whatever they touch with a bunch of useless hare-brained garbage that probably makes sense to some aliens on the Planet Xircon but for use by humans, it's crap. And the other thing they have to do is cheapify the product. By the time companies here are done, nothing made in China will last for more than six months. That's assuming it even works correctly in the first place. (Which is in itself fairly rare.)
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As for high quality products for the Chinese market, clothes come to mind easily.
Sure they do. And they are shit. Pure shit, no matter how much you pay. There is a reason that every time I come to the US I have to spend 80% of my time buying clothes. The made-in-China clothes that you get in the US are not only better quality but they are cheaper than they are here.
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I lived in China for a little while,
I'm happy for you.
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and I saw that the price you pay for clothes is closely related to their quality.
Bullshit.
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For example, a $15 pair of pants in China will often have noticeably better and more durable materials and stitching than a $30 pair of pants in the U.S.
Ha. Ha. Ha. This is why I have to buy jeans once a year overseas ? In Marshall's ? Or why the pants I had made to measure in Dongguan fit like a dress ? Because of face, you smile and thank the drooling idiot and walk away with crap.
Chinese people make crap. Sorry. It is in theory possible to get decent product here but in Real Life (tm) it just doesn't happen.
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On the Chinese market, there is a wide range of quality, and you often get what you pay for.
Bull. Fucking. Shit.
It's all crap. If you want to find something made in China that's acceptable, go to Nordstrom's. Nothing sold domestically is worth ten cents. And I do mean nothing.
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As another example, tea in China as sold to the Chinese, ranges from very low quality to very high quality.
Oh, a wine-sipper. Thanks for regurgitating the propaganda the financiers spew. I'll stand by the statement that you are not going to find any Chinese products that are worth the powder to blow them to hell.
Now, there's a lot of stuff that doesn't need to be high quality. China does that fine. There's no reason to spend big bucks for a 6" crescent wrench for the bottom of the tackle box. And the country as a whole has a lot more common sense and a lot more freedom than the US. There are many good things about China.
The overall direction in the US is to sell shittier and shittier products for more and more money, to the point that there aren't many American products that I can feel comfortable holding up for comments. The trend is definitely downward - which is why a Fuel or Tezro can't compare to an Octane. Or even an O2 ... It's all about "how much proooofit can the "investors" [e.g. how much can Kirk Kerkorian and Carl Icahn squeeze out of the plebs ?] "earn" ?
But that doesn't change the fact that China is not a culture that's ever going to manufacture good product. There are a lot of good things about China but manufacturing isn't one of them. Simple fact.
zmttoxics wrote:
... can't wait to start hating my life with systemd on linux. *sigh*.
The proverbial rock and the hard place
Solaris works great ... it's just that doing anything with it, what a nightmare ! If that idiot company had a nickel's worth of consistency they'd have gone places ... okay, places other than "down the toilet"
Oskar45 wrote:
Over here, there's a lot of fuzz (hype?) regarding Samsung's Galaxy SIII and Galaxy Note II. As I don't own an Android device yet, I'm tempted to get me one or the other of these two.
I mentioned that the Assist got her mom a Samsung Something. It's one of the above, cost $200 cash, works the same as all of them.
It's nicely made and works fine. She hates it but then, she hates all of these stupid swipe-n-wipe phones but there really aren't any other choices now, everyone has gone to the ridiculous finger-poking paradigm. She only uses the phone for sms and talking, the rest of it is a one-time novelty. No, she's not old
Except for the crappy interface, the Samsung is pretty nice. And you can't get away from that awful interface today so you grin and bear it. It's $400 cheaper than an iPhone.
jan-jaap wrote:
If I use my right foot I want the car to move *now*, not sometime after lunch.
Ah. What you want then is a sprint car or a midget. No torque converter. Also no clutch. And no transmission. No flywheel, either. There is a driveshaft, which connects the engine directly to the rear axle ... With several hundred horsepower and only a few hundred pounds of car, they do move "now" when you pick up the throttle
bluecode wrote:
" Base-ball been berry, berry good to me! "
My name Jose Jimenez ...
recondas wrote:
bluecode wrote:
That was a Saturday Night Live skit.
When it was Saturday night here it was still yesterday in Oz. So he probably missed our Saturday Night, Live or otherwise.
Oh, you can kiss me on a Monday ...
A Monday, a Monday is very very good.
Or you can kiss me on a Tuesday ...
A Tuesday, a Tuesday,
in fact I wish you would.
Or you can kiss me on a Wednesday
a Thursday, a Friday, a Saturday is best.
But never ever on a Sunday ...
A Sunday, a Sunday cause that's my day of rest
Oskar45 wrote:
... something light to ponder for you.
Oskar, when you're not puzzling out the secrets of the universe, have you ever been to the Spanish Riding School ?
vishnu wrote: If you were getting colo for $60 a month you were stealin' it!
Around here it starts at ~$260 a month, for which you get 1U of rackspace which is capped to one byte per day...
I kept a horse in a box stall for a couple years at $60 a month Fed twice a day and mucked out once a day. They even took him out and let him run around in the ring once in a while if I couldn't get out to see him. (Leaving him locked up was a bad idea - 1,000 lbs of nervous energy after it's been cooped up for two days, whoo boy.)
Oskar45 wrote:
hamei wrote:
Oskar, when you're not puzzling out the secrets of the universe, have you ever been to the Spanish Riding School ?
Yes.
Cool. That's on my "before I die" list. Is it as spectacular as it should be ?