The collected works of hamei - Page 43

Roo har har, mateys ! take one talented Jimmer, one cooperative developer (thank you Mark de Does) and one cantankerous old fool who refuses to "migrate" (brawwwk ! brawwwk !) to that effing gtk and ta-daa, a working Ted :


For the curious, it was a default setting in XmPanedWindow that was the culprit.

Now to slog through the drudgery of a tardist ....

Gottit. Actually jimmer already figured out some good Xdefaults, it was just that they were buried at the bottom of three pages of possible Ted settings I just had to change from pixels to points ... Not too bad J, thank you. It would have taken me a week to dig out all the various fonts.

Not so bad, eh ? Looks like it can do a little more than just a letter to granny. Now if vish would just whip that damned Maxwell into shape ...

Seems to be

buit this puzzles me (yeah I know, so does a shiny rock)

This error is about a system header while most errors and warnings are about the C code itself ...

and these are the lines in slibu.c that are kicking off the error codes in /usr/include/sys/vnode.h :


aah, sweet mysteries of C at last I've found you ...

tried that, no help

trying now ..... but that thing about the error being in the system includes rather than the source code doesn't seem right ...

[quote="recondas"As long as the secured Tezro standoff doesn't flex the PCB of the V12 when it's installed in the Fuel I'd think you're fine.[/quote]
I never use that stinkin' screw in the bottom of the Fuel anyhow. It's a pain in the posterior and doesn't do much except get in the way ...

I tried Door Number Two first, since you said the other option could possibly break other stuff and ... yay ! It worked.

Thank you.

I feel like Job ... no, not that Jobs, the other one ... whatever happened to a thousand eyes, a thousand hands ? These programs are ten years old, nobody ever found these problems before ?


I tired removing the semicolon .. that was a mistake Saw a few new warnings, too ... it went by too fast to read thoroughly but I liked the one about WARNING: da da da, dit dit looks suspicious ...

The array of unspecified bounds seems to be a gcc-ism : no one else in the world allows that, ahem. Didn't find an easy fix tho ... the missing expression ERROR occurs here;



I will go back to tardistting Ted now while awaiting further instructions .... SIAG looks interesting if we can ever get it to run (that's the royal we - you do the work, I push the buttons)

There is something seriously wrong with your setup. I have a ten-year-old Irix installation, try just about every beta that comes off the server, compile lots of stuff myself with little skill and close to no knowledge, and this FF3 works for me on hardware similar to yours.

I have more problems than some people see but it does work. So ..... something is absolutely not correct at your house. Do you use any other nekoware ?

I'm not entirely happy with this :

It seems like all he's trying to do is choose some action according to whether one has Tickle and/or Guile installed but this did seem to make the compiler continue. So for now ...

This thing is giving me a headache :



Apparently MIPSpro is behaving like a good boy while SIAG is not I'd prefer not to back up to c89, that doesn't seem like the correct thing to do ? "Undefined" does not sound like a good thing ..

Do they still make analog computers ?

More to the point, how many customers will surround HP headquarters with burning torches, demanding Meg's head on a pike ?

You guys have got to quit letting these bastards pull this crap. The world will be intolerable if you keep allowing this kind of behavior.

This one might be more thorough :

http://www.os2museum.com/wp/

Michal was an early developer of Freetype2 , worked on the Scitech universal graphics drivers for OS/2 and was instrumental in the OpenWatcom deal, so he knows his stuff.

Holy digital, Batman ... go here and scroll down a ways ... I'm having a flashback

http://www.os2museum.com/wp/?page_id=1351

It's going to make a hell of a machine for posting what kind of a bowel movement your cat had on Facebook ...

You best let them know they're going to have to migrate. Carly's payout is coming up soon and HP needs the cash. What with it being a high-tech service economy now and HP having to outsource all the development and jobs to India on account of costs and the fine management brought to you by Carly, Mark, and Meg, your little third-world stock exchange is just gonna have to suck up.

What, you thought HP's word was worth something ? ha ha ha, you fools !

You can pay by check, cash, or money order ...

Don't buy a red one if you have a dog

The circular design with the airway up the middle is interesting though. From the photos I don't see how they are tranferring the heat from the chips to the extrusion (through the stand-offs ? Right) up the center but the idea is good ... Of course you could do the same thing with a square box but then you'd end up with a small Onyx2. Or a center-cooled cobalt Qube

Wull, ah'll be a monkey's uncle ... we run outta code for him to do weird stuff with. Ta-daaa

Looks like I've got enough stuff to keep me busy for a month tardistting ... A big thank-you to everyone who gave directions and didn't laugh at the stupid questions. Not publicly, anyhow

Marine or locomotives ?

I bet your book is more than 40 years old, too. Maybe a hundred ... Triple expansion, yay

Guys : would you not say this is a case where using the openly-available gnu stuff is preferable ? That's all SGI is doing anyhow. Using nekoware or building your own security-related apps would seem to be preferable now that SGI is pretty much worthless.

Everything about this is sort of wrong It has several "themes", one is CDE but I haven't tried that. This is the default look.

However ... it is a spreadsheet, it does work in Irix, it does have some interesting features ?

It is one of the more peculiar programs I've run across but here's to individuality (glasses clinking emoticon goes here) ... it's the only program I've had that refused to link in the <gmake install> phase, apparently it wants GhostView and I've already polluted my computer too much with this thing, I amn't gonna do that.

Pathetic Writer really is, Ted is much more useful (except the superscript, subscript buttons are kind of neat).

But, maybe someone will like it, it's a starting place, the spreadsheet and Scheme and Guile integration might be good, I can stick it into a package forever intended to be /beta so that if someone wants to mess with it, at least some of the work is done ?

Thinking about that tho, it probably doesn't belong in /nekoware because it's def experimental .. where should it go ? /usr/local with the other trash ? Or just make a tardist of what's done and let people do whatever ? Not everyone has a compiler

The only time those are fun is in an earthquake ....

Managed to stamp out another couple of goofy problems, now it all works. Or I think it works, some of the plugins are rather unusual ... the spreadsheet might be worth something tho. It imports Excel spreadsheets. (That's an import on the back page.) No idea how accurately but at least for what most people use spreadshits for, it should be okay. Has a list of application settings you can change about a mile long. Don't we have a LISP fanatic here ? It uses Scheme which is a variation on LISP, yes ? If someone split off the pathetic writer and other ... errr ... dated auxiliaries (the file manager is a true relic !) it might be handy as a spreadsheet. It's a pretty impressive achievement for a single person, even if it is kind of strange.

Anyway, the more software the better, right ? thousands and thousands of apps in the nekostore

"Proprietary" software has been discontinued a hell of a lot less and suppoorted a hell of a lot better than that open sores crap. At least if you get cheated by HP you know whom to go shoot. gtk1 gtk2 gtk3 qt wxwidgets soap ajax the foaming cleanser compiz dickwhizz, you name it, Linux has run through it. Support ? what a crock. It never worked right in the first place but we gots to release more ! faster ! release early release often, just like when you eat Messican food and have a lot of gas. Bugs ? hell, maybe someone else will catch them, not our biz mon ! We've got 80% market share, we must be doiing something right !

Barf.


People are stupid. Profit ! profit profit profit !! Business is all about profit !!

Yeah right. Then when the business goes tits-up it's the effing taxpayers who pay, while the ceo waltzes off with a few billion.

This stupid philosophy is destroying the foundations of the modern world.

This is the bullshit that passes for informed comment these days ? Urban, people are exactly the same as they have been for 100,000 years. They need exactly the same things. The rest of this doublespeak is just a bunch of gobbledygook. "Modern software development ..." who gives a rat's ass ? You could take all software development and shove it off a bridge and we'd be way better off.

Software hasn't done shit in twenty years. It's worthless.

The real-world volume is not that small tho. Round things don't pack together like square things so all the space between this inscribed circle and the square it would take up is ... lost. Add in the cables and accessories and it's not as small as it would have you think.

The idea is still kind of nifty but it reminds me of the water-cooled doors : an interesting idea with some value but not the earth-shattering breakthrough our Marketing Overlords would have us believe.

And if you know anything at all about heat transfer and their photo is accurate, well ... do the words booool sheet ring any bells ?




Ho-leee stinky stuff, Batman .... did they issue barf bags to the attendees at the door ? Grown adults listened to that worthless swill and applauded ? Is Timmy trying to outdo Monkeyboy ? " I looove this COMPANY !!"

These are adult human beings with an education and they were cheering that self-serving unutterably disgusting crap ? Gag me with a spoon.

Next time they can save some money and hold their conference in the primate enclosure at the zoo. The US is toast

Some people paint their bodies black and blue
Let their monster get creative, yes, they do
Some people like to spike their oily hair
Some people like to lose, they just don't care

Hear what I'm saying
Just listen to the words I preach
You've got to keep your monster on a leash
Hey yeah, you've got to keep your monster on a leash

Okay le, done, done, and kinda done ... a 'sperimental tardist is winging its way east even as we speak. It all works (I think. It's sort of hard to tell with that quirky software.)

It's not good enough to be nekoware, imo. So I made it a separate thing that installs under /opt/will_robinson/

It's all there (I hope) - source, patches, description of the process, the whole enchilada. I should have included a link to this thread, I guess ...

Much of the "suite" is not very useful now. I can't imagine anyone but a flagellante using that file manager, for instance. And Pathetic Writer is correctly named. But the spreadsheet is interesting - it uses scheme and guile and C and whatever else your heart may desire. So if someone else wants to get in there and get their hands dirty, at least this is a start. Maybe strip out the extra junk and just create a spreadsheet program out of it ? It's not so suitable for what I wanted so I am done with it ... but might be good for someone else.

miod : thanks for the better patch, I will try that and report back before I end this chapter of blundering around

Apparently not

Thank you for the idea tho. Maybe the next person in line can use it ...

As for me, bye-bye SIAG

If someone pulls out all the junk, maybe links up the editor command to a user's preferred editor, same with the word processor, etc. it could possibly be a useful spreadsheet. Someone else !!

Sooprize sooprize

This is intolerably irresponsible. No wonder the fucking useless braindead United States is swirling the toilet :

Prerequisites : let's go see what's what ...

No problem, here's everything we need to know, right ?

Wrong.

And that's it. Techpubs in five different publications uses exactly the same worthless bullshit "explanation." (And our own wiki glosses over the problem) Here's an example from the real world :

Swmgr says exactly nothing about "neko_expat.sw.lib" Let me correct that - it says <blink> NOTHING </blink> Sure, it shows "expat-2.1.0 C library for parsing XML expat shared libraries" but here's a hint for the highly-paid knowledge workers of high-tech America : this does not even resemble what swpkg will accept or use. Maybe *you* know where these systems hide their names but the computer certainly does not. Computers are not mind-readers, hey?

I have a free clue for high-tech America : do your fucking jobs. Computer hardware is worthless without software. If you don't make it somewhat straightforward for people to create software that runs on your hardware, then you ain't gonna got shit. That means the instructions should be intelligible or at least complete. Of course you can bury the idjut journalists in blather and make a bundle by scamming the stock market IPO ! IPO ! We're gonna be rich RICH I TELL YOU ! WOO-HOO !! but eventually, the country is going to go broke because Obummer is a fool and thinks the rest of the world can be strongarmed into paying good money for worthless trash. Either that or he's playing whitey's game and goes home to laugh with Michelle about putting one over on all the dumbass honkies.

Either way, when the country goes broke the darkies in the ghetto are going to come for your jewelry. The family jewelry. And you can squeal about criminals and pound the table with your mighty wee fists but buddy, you's getting exactly what you deserve. A automatic weapon don't 'cept no checks.

Fucking nitwits.

Meanwhile, back on the ranch, wtf is "the maximum value that a long int can hold" supposed to mean ? The biggest number one can type into that operating system ? The biggest integer one can write longhand on a sheet of 8 1/2" x 11" paper ? The biggest number that Carl Sagan can visualize in his wide-screen brain ? Can someone who speaks fucking English explain what this crap is supposed to mean ?

And while you're at it, where the hell do you get the real system names that swpkg can understand ? Do we have to disassemble every neko_JBIGKIT 2.0.3.tardist in the repository for the real subsystem names of the libraries ? That doesn't seem efficient

No wonder SGI is dead. They were morons.

Thanks, Blue . Do you think perhaps the useless dickwads who wrote the Help and Techpubs how-to's might have included this information ? 6.2, 6.4 and 6.5 Techpubs, all same. They kept the secret for more than ten years, I'm so happy for them.

Although I spose it's possible that they didn't want anyone to port software to Irix cuz the os is so kewl and l33t but, well, look where that got them ?


Thanks That works good also. In fact, it works a little better because the letters have all worn off my high-quality special SGI keyboard so the graphical approach can be nice. I know. If I were a real computer guy I'd never ever have to look at the keys.


You put that tongue any farther into your cheek and something'll bust, Porter

Here's an example from fontconfig :

While here's a listing of the files in neko_zlib

6 ... hmmm. It must come from somewhere. 1+2+5 =8, no. 1+2+5+1=9 ... hmm. 9/2=4.5, no. 9 -1 = 8, no. 9-3=6, hey ! We gottit ! Add all the integers from all the available version numbers together. Now take the sum of the two leftmost digits of the largest version number and subtract from the sum of all versions. Right ? Or does this number come from the Assyrian calendar somehow ?

This has to have some explanation but as I'm not from an alien planet, the clues escape me. And I'm not stoopid enough to expect Techpubs or the Help tutorial to explain it. Been there, done that.

Where's canavan ? he uses this mess, he should understand it .... this is the worst-explained part of making a tardist so if someone could describe it and we got it into the wiki, that'd be a big help for the future. What future ? okay, okay ...

My thanks to the rest of you hippies. You're more useful than SGI ... although so is an exploding watermelon, at this point.

edit : a little more on the maxint thing ...


I believe this is incorrect because of the example above, where maxint was six but the highest version number of any library was 1.2.5

On the other hand, later on

But if that is correct, then fontconfig would not work. Except it does ...

Woo-hoo ! SMJ's been busy on the wiki ! Thanks, fella. That didn't use to be there. Techpubs is useless on the subject, with their "maximum value that a long int can hold" shit. Nowhere do they say that their maxint number refers to the package number, not the version number. Version of what ? Everyone in the company has at least a Bachelor's but none of them can write a sentence in English.

Nekochan wiki beats Techpubs, hmm. Guess I should learn where to go first in the future ...


Thanks, you're right. All they had to do was put that one simple word in there to have it make sense -- package .


Not at all. I guess I am not thin-skinned The way people pussy-foot around everything today is silly.

Back to the trackball and keyboard, thanks y'all. Should be able to get a Teddy into incoming now ...

SM - not that it matters since they have lost most of their credibility, but one point Techflubs made was that 30 characters is considered max for a package name, otherwise the name disappears out the side of the interface. Came across that while looking for the answer to this. That and the story of the Batfish ... don't ask, I have no idea how my searches do that.

It was Alver who did the original - it's still up on his websoite and it's a big help. Thanks, Alver !

But it didn't go into the version / package confusion very much. I looked. Unless I was suffering from sensory overload blindness at that point, which is certainly possible ...

So Reg Regan is probably responsible ... we'll get you for this, Reg !


Anyhoo, I shouldn't mention this yet but there's a Motif Ted in incoming now. Should be showing up for healthy constructive that's constructive , did you hear that ? criticism in beta soon.

Coming soon to an ftp server near you ...

It's a little odd because Mr Ted doesn't organize it in the common manner so I tried to neko-ize everything. Hope it is all still there and hope it works for everyone. Should be especially good on a slower machine. You may have to install some beta subsystems, I've got most everything at the newest level here.

The how-to is actually installed and accessed from the Help label on the menu. Has pretty good instructions.

Thanks to Jimmer, Duck, Shade, jps et al who made it possible. If I missed anyone I apologize.

If it makes your cat sick, I'll be right over. Promise.

Okay le, onwards and upwards ... If anyone would like to go forward on making SIAG into proper nekoware, Mr Nekonoko kindly put the tardist into /pub/downloads/contrib/hamei. I think it could make a useful piece of software if someone streamlined and nekoized it a bit. I am not the best person for that but at least if anyone needs or wants SIAG, it works. In Irix, yet

Been using this for a few days, jpegs still work, the colors are lush and sumptuous, the blacks black, the whites whiter than white, what more could you ask for ?

One vote here for /current ...

3D printers and raspberry Pi, we piss on thee from a great height

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/ci ... ib-149268/

No, those are good for smallish prismatic parts - things like gearbox housings that need to be worked on from several sides in one clamping. Or you can put a tombstone on the pallet, clamp 6 iPad frames to a side, and machine 24 bodies in one setup. Most horizontals will exchange pallets automatically so the operator can be loading up a second pallet while the machine is cutting the parts on the first. Then thump thump, change pallets, spindle is cutting metal again.

You only get paid for the time the cutter is making chips.

Or, if you are really trick and you have an assembly that takes, say, six different components, you can put a different fixture on each of six pallets and have the machine cycle through ten part A, ten part B, ten part C and so on. This way you get ten complete units out at a time rather than having to do 500 part A then 500 part B and have big piles of inventory waiting around to get assembled. Even if that is not the lowest production time per unit, it's usually systemically more efficient.

SMP for metal cutting but hey now ! we don' need no steenkin factory work ! We're all gonna be white collar Highly Trained Professionals !

Like the Highly Trained Professionals who outsourced the 6 billion dollar (will be ten billion before they can use it) twenty-five years to build, full of cracks, worthless for anything except a bicycle path, Bay Bridge. 'cuz you know, we're really really smart and special ! Factory work, manufacturing, eeeeuw ! We don't actually know anything but we all got an MBA !

Yeah, I'm bitter. Fucking worthless yuppies.

If you need big, maybe something like this :

That's an impeller for the public employee trough -- you know, the drug counselors, the assistants to the grief counselors, the stock brokers, the bankers, the think-tank cogitators, the primal scream therapists and oh yes, the Watchers and Informers ... made in China now, of course. As Angela Merkel said to Tony Blair when he asked, "How are you guys doing so well ?"

"We still make things, Mr Blair."

Still got a bike ? camshaft for a thumper. If you can kick this over I will not mess with you

Wait till you guys figure out global warming is not an Algore hoax ... what will all the MBA's do then ?

This is quite strange ...

Pretty sure this is not mine, I'm lazy and if I upgrade software I just do a gmake install (which is a bad habit, I know.)

The one that is in nekoware /current is ver 5 and descirbes itself as the "Wheeler-Burroughs data compressor" or something like that. Not "open-surce data compressor." And there's nothing in /beta like this ...

Weird. Phony nekoware ? Are tardists doing the dirty in my file system ?

Meanwhile, is the easiest thing to do a backtrack on the version requirement ? It's the same bzip version so should not be a problem ?

Thanks for looking, Mr Canavan Sir.

I know ... I realize the younger generation may not believe this, but once upon a time even the average low-salary, low-tech menial factory worker was smart enough to know that putting your hands under fifteen tons of moving steel was not a good idea.

And it was a federal offense to open other people's mail ....

I built a new one that only requires ver 5 of bzip2. Very strange, I wonder where the mystery tardist came from ?

Anyway, should hatch into /beta in a few days.

thanks again for giving it a try.

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