The collected works of hamei - Page 23

I'm probably even less experienced with Sun gear than thyself but ... here's my unsolicited advice :

Toss the graphics card as far as you can. Solaris, from a command line, is nice ! Solaris, from a graphical interface, is intolerable !!

About three years ago I picked up a hotdog quad-Xenon triple redundant Intel-Inside server with a ton of memory. Tried several os'es, Solaris was the only one that saw everything, did everything right out of the box so I went thataway. Getting it set up turned out to be miserable because Sun has gone through at least four major interfaces. None of them are compatible with each other, about ten percent of the people on the Internet bother to mention which subsystem they are talking about with their useless "tutorials", the entire thing is a total mess. Once you get the system the way you want it, life is good because you never have to touch the thing, it just works. But getting there is a nightmare.

Fast forward three years, Intel-based bigname box dies, I decide my dick is actually big enough, a smaller server will do a fine job, the only interesting thing available is a Sun v100, oh well, survived that once can probably do it again. Getting through the Oracle defensive artillery emplacements was tricky but hey now, I'm a great firewall veteran with a wooden leg, we can go anywhere, do anything.

There are no graphics with a V100. The processor is pitiful. Memory a measly 2 gigs. Disks, IDE, what a joke.

This little thing kicks butt. Server performance (at low loads, anyhow) is better than the 4p 12gig IBM-Intel monster. Without the stinking useless awful garbage graphical desktop, this thing is nice to administer. ZFS is a dream. The commands make sense and seem to be pretty standard through the years. The information you find online generally applies and works. Once you get away from the useless piece of shit graphical desktop, Solaris is nice and works very very well. But otherwise, YUCK !!!

So if it were I, I'd take that graphics card and see how plastic and solder hold up to thirty-eight caliber projectiles

Sorry, the metric system confuses me. I meant 38 pounders ...

or did I mean thitty-eight inchers ?

Life can be so confusing ... but I knew thirty-eight was the correct number
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This is crude but vnc works for a quick-n-dirty answer ......

If the files aren't too big you could try joe. It runs in a terminal so no X required. I use that to edit some files on Solaris from the Irix box.

For larger files, this is even cruder than vnc but axyftp can be set with a target host, username and password so you can grab a file, edit it in the comfort of whatever system you prefer, then ftp it back fairly conveniently without a bunch of excessive name / password / host typing. Crude but works .....

Is there a nedit for Mac ? Maybe the problem is between the Irix emacs and the Mac emacs, nedit might not have that problem ? Or is this getting into the dangerous area of editor wars ?

Anyone here know offhand if it's possible to share the same directory tree (e.g. zfs/files) twice, once with nfs and once with smb ? Solaris 10.

I know, just try it ... but if I knew it worked, I'd try harder

Because we are talking about Solaris ?

I would have thought that you should be able to create two nfs shares of one file system to different users with different settings, also. But it warn't true. I fought that one for about two days before I found a note in the fine print that said nfs was designed to not do that. Sigh.

I hope it does but so far not having much luck with the smb portion. nfs works fine if I do

but if I try to pin it down a little, as in

things quit working, even though everything looks correct.

Also, the smb dataset shows as being shared but the Windows box won't see it.

Back to duckduckgo, I guess. Was mostly just wondering if someone had actually done this and knows that it for-sure works.

Thanks to all for the assistance. I am tending towards recondas' ten-foot-pole approach but ....


Surprise surprise, after searching through 537 pages of directions on how to enable zfs set sharesmb=on, I came across this little gem :

So much for my vain hope to get away from Mickeysoft's really really bad Services for Ooonix

But the fine print says that smb is not supported on Solaris 10, which is quite different from "doesn't work.". Hmmm .... still got some un-smashed areas on head ....


One of the really nice things about Solaris is that if you look for a while, you will find several different command line arguments which all are supposed to do the same thing. This one didn't work in the same fashion that mine didn't work

But just for the heck of it and because there was nothing left to lose, I replaced the ip with the hostname. Wa ! That worked, although I didn't see it described anywhere . Honey, you ain't nothin if you ain't free. Success, yay !


Point taken. In fact, in my next life I will not have a computer. I will be a Boston terrier with big bulgy eyes and play with my tennis ball all day, everyday until the end of time. I will also snore when sleeping and fart. Quiet, subtle, deathly awful farts.


Don't encourage me. I was avoiding that since all the lit recommends sticking to zfs commands for zfs filesystems but ... zfs is actually pretty nice but the damned Sun Disease is deep in the bones over there. They can't leave anything alone, can they ? If I were God, I'd make sure that every day when Sun employees went home, their houses would all be moved to different streets and painted different colors. Same wives, tho


Would you happen to know if sharesmb works on Solaris 10 Sparc ? I could care less if it's supported or not. If it doesn't work, no point in getting all carried away struggling.

thanks again, Solarians

Thanks. Actually, that's for Samba, so I think I'll just give it a rest for now ....

Solaris CIFS type smb, not samba. I got bitten by a samba when small, been afraid of them ever since.

the in-kernel cifs support for smb but as you say below -

So to heck with it, I've had enough fun and nfs sharing works as advertised so away we go.

thanks

Can you do 2 @ 1920 x 1200 @ 50 hz, j-j ? With an lcd, the 60 hz refresh isn't such a big thing ...

Here's a nickel, kid. Go buy yourself a better monitor

PowerPoint ! Set it on auto at 13 hz. Is it time to wake up already ? Yay !

Took a visitor out for dinner. One of the dishes was drunken shrimp. It took him about ten minutes to notice that they were still squirming around ... at which point he lost it entirely

I don't think it's true but the story is, they put the shrimp in a pan without water for some time ... half hour ? an hour ? and the shrimp get really thirsty. Then they pour the shrimp into a low pan of what we call white wine (basically turpentine with an alcohol content around 80 to 90 proof). The thirsty shirmps shlurp shlurp shlurp up all the alcohol, then they pour them into a bowl with some sauce. Viola, here's your dish, 150 little shrimps staggering around.

If the sauce is good they are pretty tasty. With a little practice you cna shell them in your mouth in one swift schlurp, then spit out the shell onto the table. Next !

For those with aquariums, you know the cherry red shrimp ? The ones that the fish sellers describe as "bred in Taiwan" ? The ones you thought were designed to be cute little aquarium pets ? There's a Taiwan dish, "cherry red shrimp" which is one of those rice-in-a-hot-iron-pot things. Yup. Comes with a raw egg, some veggies, and a bowl of cherry red shrimp. Pour into the rice and stir like heck. They were bred in Taiwan, yes, but I don't think for the aquarium trade.

Fried little tiny frogs are pretty good, too. Crunchy. Subtle flavoring, reminiscent of a pond, nice grass, and an evening ribbetting the ladies. It helps to be kind of drunk when you eat them.

But there's a restaraunt down the street I'm saving for when smj comes over. They have the best spicy bee larvae in this part of zhejiang. Kind of expensive but really good. SMJ deserves the best

Okay, here's a dish you cowards can actually try at home. Next time you barbecue, get some tiger shrimp. Leave the shells on. Best to get them live so you can make them go without food for a day to clean out their pooper but I'm not sure you can get that back there in the free world ? Anyway, take the shrimps in their shells and find a tinfoil pan a couple inches deep. Put the shrimps in the pan and bury them in salt. Yes, bury. Fill the pan up to cover the tops of the pile of shrimp. I bet some added seasonings would make it even better. Put the pan on the barby like you were carburizing some 8620 in a cyanide bath. Don't get it as hot though. You're on your own for figuring out how long it takes to cook - we're always kind of disabled by this step of the process, but you should be able to trial and error it out. Maybe five minutes ? Pull them hummers off the fire, dig around in the salt to find them, shell and eat. So easy even I can do it. And yummy. Almost as good as the drunk ones

I hate snails but the Assistant loves them. In fact, the other day I caught her with her hand in the aquarium at lunchtime. "I was just looking at it ! Honest !"

Unh-hunh. My momma din't raise no fool. Put that snail back and step away from the aquarium. Thank you.

I think "never" would be the word you're looking for. There are several flossy 3d apps out there already, this is his baby and he wants it to look and work the way he wants it to look and work. I don't get the impression that dealing with shitforbrains Loonixites with a gtk2 obsession is in his dreams for a better tomorrow ....

Mouse ? All the programs I have used take dimensions entered from the keyboard. I would hate to be limited to snapping or grids.

You might try to find a copy of Cadkey for DOS. Version 7 is the nicest, version 6 is decent. Maybe on fleabay or something ? It sounds like the way you work would fit that program well. It should run in a virtual machine ?


Yes and no ... a 3d model will (obviously) be 3d. To get any other view all you have to do is rotate the model. In 2d you have to make a new drawing for every view. 3d is a little more work upfront but at the end of the day it's a big timesaver.

Th real difference is between wireframe and solid modelling.


It has been for thirty years that I know of Autocad 2.52 was 3d ... the big switch was when everyone went to solids. Are there any wireframe cad programs still sold ?

That sounds pretty clumsy. In Bobcad, for example, if you want to copy a line or set of features, you'd select them then chose "copy" then "parallel" and it would ask you how far. Enter the number then click the mouse on whichever side you want to copy it. All magically lined up perfectly. Then if you want to move you'd use "translate" again with a discrete number. I am not a big fan of snapping .... I could do your drawing above in about thirty seconds, honestly. And I'm no longer in practice.

Bobcad does not have a Big League reputation but for things like that, boy is it fast. Whoever Bob is, he did a heck of a job of getting exactly what you need into the program instead of a bunch of junk you have to sort through to get what you want. (Also it is a DOS program. When these programs went Windows they went Shit. The Windows interface is not convenient or speedy for that kind of work.)


Hmm. I've never cared for Autocad but it's been 3d for decades. I understood that it was popular with architects and builders because of a lot of built-in features specifically for the building trades (doors, windows, walls, ducting, landscaping, that kind of thing.)

I know Pro/E has an entire package of piping tools but that seems like it would be way overkill for a builder.

Really ? Wow. Detachable Penis is one of my favorite songs .....

You won't get any argument from me about how awful Autocad is. I hate that thing

That's a sprocket, by the way. And the teeth need a totally different shape if you plan to run roller chain on them

Much !

They do look nice but here's the problem : for a CAD program, you need to show top view, left view, right view, front and back view. The isometric is a frippery added on when the plan views could be confusing and usually isn't even included. And "complex scenes" ... you're not talking CAD here. Visualizations of buildings, artist's "renderings", whatever but not CAD.

CAD is intended to create drawings from which to make parts (or in the case of Autocad, buildings.) It really isn't meant for artistic renderings of anything. There are times when 2d is nicer - e.g., a layout of frame geometry for a bicycle or motorcycle. But in general you will need to have the requisite views for manufacture. If you create the model in 3D then all you have to do at the end is choose the views and arrange them on the drawing. If you do it in 2D then you have to create every single view separately. One other advantage to 3D is that in most cases you can change the model and all your views will update. "Oh crap, that protrusion should be two inches longer !" ... one change instead of five.

I don't mean to say you can't create good drawings in a 2d program but it's a lot more work and a lot more prone to errors. If you are doing it for fun that's cool but if you are trying to design something to be built, you'd rather avoid errors and extra work and potentially wrong parts that you get to eat. Steel and aluminum are not nourishing and they're hard on the teeth.

I still like wireframe better than solids a lot of the time though

But the last time I (re) installed Irix was in 2003

They are moribund. Personal computers are now refrigerators, with the manufacturers raving over the ice dispensers in the door. When we had 486-66 DX computers with 4 megs of memory there was a long way to go to get to useful. We upgraded for a reason. But I've been saying this for a long time now - people don't need anywhere near the computing power we've had for ten years. A fuel is fine. A dual-core fuel would be perfect. The R18k would have been all the computer SGI needed if they had had a brain to market it. Sure, I'd like a little of this and a little of that but in fact, it does everything I need ... and despite what r-ten thinks, it does more than 90% of what everyone needs.*

The rest of this stuff is just blah-blah this and blah-blah that, because that's all there is to talk about. When they come out with the new Macbook in paisley, then you'll know they've hit the wall.

* It would be nice to have improved software. That means no fucking Java front ends to garbage programs written by pimple-faced teenagers living in Mom's basement. But hey, that'd cost money which we can't allow for business reasons so too bad on that

Absolutely. I mean, computing is just so different ! .than it was ten years ago ! When I leave the Fuel I can barely figure out what to do ! And software ! Omigod ! It's like a different world, d00d !


Oh man, you don't have to tell me just how great text editing is at 3800 x 2400. It's like tits, man. Really good, as soon as I bought that jeweler's loupe.

Hey, you missed one thing - there's a review at anandtech, you know what's really cool ? The SD card reader usually works now ! Is that some hot shit or what ?! Bro, next time I'm in the US I'll be pounding on the door at the nearest Apple Store where those hip young guys and girls can really give me the full low-down on this hi-tech schmutz. Lemme tell ya, I can hardly wait.



Unfortunately, this is how real life is. The Invisible Hand and all that shit are just children's fantasies, spread around by the Cato Institution and the Heritage Foundation slimeballs to whitewash their thefts. The more money people get, the more they want. When they have 16 billion in cash they don't think, "heck, we're set for life, let's loosen the purse strings a little." They think "We only have 16 billion ! If we squeezed a little harder we could have 18 billion !" Law of human nature : greed feeds on itself. The very worst customers I ever had were the ones with the most money ... absolute shitheads. The HA were better, more honest customers and people.

Absolutely ... You still don't get it ... Okay le, to drop the happy back-biting for a second and get serious, don't you realize when you say these things that people are going to call you on it ? Or has life moved so far away from fact in the "hi-tech industry" that people no longer have to deal with reality ?


Horse shit. Okay ? This is just plain old unadulterated horseshit. If you want a new Apple that's cool. If you like it that's great and you can sing Apple praises and hymns to Steve until the cows come home and I'd never say a mean word. My Assist has a Macbook. It's okay. I have no grudge against Apple users.

But when you tell me that "computing is progressing at an exponential rate" then I have to call you on it. The Emperor is nekkid. Bare-assed dinky-dick pot-belly hairy-butt white-legged nekkid.

Computing, at least in the consumer area, is not progressing at all. Not even one tiny little bit. If anything it is worse than five years ago. Or haven't you used Boogle recently ?

Oh wait ! I forgot about Fireflop adding XRender ! oh my, transparency ! clock hands you can see through ! Gosh, I am so sorry ...


You've said this before. And I've asked you what all these other people do. So far, no answer.


That part I'll have to agree with. But then, the part you seem to miss is "the market" is a pile of crap.


Oh ! Well ! that's different if I only knew you were doing Power Point ! And spreadsheets ! That answers everything. No way on earth can a crummy old last-gen computer deal with spreadsheets ! Omigod, that's some rip-snortin' pawrful-ass computin' there ! I guess it's a big savings, now that you don't have to pay for time on Blue Gene, right ?

Sheesh. If you like the Apple, that's fine, ya know ? But the rest of us aren't dingshits. We don't need it. It doesn't do anything new and useful. It's a case of playing with your dick. That's okay. Lots of people like to play with their dicks. Look at all those people in 200 mph cars when the speed limit is 70. Cool for them. Just don't tell the rest of us we're "going to be having a hard time" if we don't keep up with the "exponential advances" in computing. For FEA guys maybe there are advances but for the average schmo, nothing has happened in ten years. Nothing. I can keep up with the advances in my sleep.


The point is that you were marvelling at all the advances in computing. if you'd care to point out a few I might agree. But so far, nothing. Nada. Zip. Zilch. So please don't tell me what a hard time I'm going to have in life due to not buying the newest latest spiffiest product of the "hi-tech" industry. Then I won't have to tell you that your "advances" are a bunch of fantasies.

Deal ?

Your point ? you don't have a point. You're just spouting marketing garbage like a good little consumer. Oh jesus god you do text editing ! .And Power Point ! and this one is the killer, even Blue Gene has troubles handling a SPREADSHEET !!!

Shee-it. Do you have brown eyes, by any chance ?