The collected works of hamei - Page 50

robespierre wrote: that guy is a zealot in more ways than one.

I think the word you are looking for is 'crackpot' But anyone who dislikes OCAML can't be all bad ...

.. more up-to-date benchmarks, like I suppose, NSA de- crypting or email parsing.

fixed that for you

astouffer wrote: A question for anyone out there who has experience with an Ultra 20. Is the motherboard an ATX form factor or something proprietary?

Never owned one but I have read that they are a stock Tyan motherboard.

foetz wrote: haha you shall be forgiven

After making amends. 50 pushups, pledge !

robespierre wrote: No, I meant a zealot

I'll take your word for it ...

He does dislike OCAML tho, so there must be a glimmer of sanity left in that broken pate ... just your average IT kinda guy, I guess

jimmer wrote: New project is underway.

I hate you. My /usr/local was a read-only empty file ... anyway, good chance I am doing this wrong but

It looks like we were looking in /usr/local/include but the VkNew headers are all in /usr/local/include/VkNew ?

jmjsgi wrote: I'll reinstall with the basic options.

I think that's what you've got now Better double-check this because it's been a long time, but I'm pretty sure that the desktop stuff is on Complementary Applications. You should be able to add that from a single-user inst, or maybe even over the network ...

Thanks, j & f. My excuse is, I only had about ten minutes to play with it, otherwise the dog would pee on the floor ...

It opens, it runs, kind of interesting. I had no problems with file handliing. Some things :

The splash screen is nice, could you replace the Help -> Product Information with that or is that something we are stuck with ? I've always thought that the About screens in Irix were awful. $10,000 application and the About looks like some spastic kindergartener created it.

Grabbed a comic for test, whoo boy. Spears into flaming eye sockets, hunh ?

Display is excellent, sharp as a tack. However, at high resolution, I can't see an entire page. And there's no sliders ... not that I'd want sliders, resizing the page would be better.

foetz has a good point, for most people a single executable would be more convenient. It's not very big.

This could become the quick-n-dirty graphics application for Irix. I can see where it could do everything that Pho and the other thingy I found do. In fact, it could be SGI's Answer to Irfanview .... nice, J. Real nice.

Where's all the guys who want to open source Irix ? Time to step up to the plate and make yourselves useful ...

edit : ah. I see what happens with the size. In the vertical direction, if you expand the window, the display grows until it hits the horizontal width of the window. Then it adds a grey area above the size of the jpg. In the horizontal direction, if you widen the display window it grows right out the top of the screen without adding a slider bar or hitting a limit and adding an empty area. Easy to work around for the moment, but I would think that eventually the slider bars would be necessary, in case you want to zoom in on one area.

Are these comics all pornography without the sex, or just the one I grabbed ? It's kind of ... interesting

edit_2 : ah_again ... Made a comic book by zipping up a bunch of jpegs. We scooted right through the stack nicely. Lots of interesting possibilities. Now if I can just talk the Assistant into doing a little posing ... "It's for a comic book ! really !"

SAQ wrote: It should be on "Applications"

Thanks, SAQ. A mind is a hell of a thing to watch go to hell. Especially when it's your own

Don't hate me ...

jimmer wrote: Fair point. I have removed the dependency on VkNew.

I can't actually tell the difference but thought the same as foetz, VkNew is good, just static that hummer. It's small, we don' need no steenking dso's

For extra Hamei Happiness this means there's also nothing going on in /usr/local anymore.

<does ecstatic but tasteful dance of joy in living room. Dog looks up bemused, 'Hope it's not something in the water. They just refilled my bowl. Did I drink out of that yet ?">

Issue added to the very bottomest bottom of the TODO list.

Well, I never ! I'm going to have a word with your agent, young man ...

jimmer wrote: I've changed the scaling and centering in 0.3.1. Please report back if this issue is solved.

- better image scaling and centering in the viewing window

It's ... different. Keep in mind that these are extreme numbers, so if it works here you probably won't have a problem with smaller sizes.

The image auto-centers now, that's nice.

As you drag the lower edge of the window down and down, the image gets larger and larger until ... poof ! it disappears. Drag the bottom edge back up and it reappears. Drag the side of the window frame and the image continuously self-centers (appropriate for today's society) until it reaches a certain point, then smallens in vertical height.

I dunno. For reading a comic book, this way is good. For zooming in on the gratuitous panty shots, the other way was better. Not sure what to say here ... but maybe I preferred the other method, since it was a little more versatile.

- added a little statusbar thingy

Little is the operative word Not a bad idea, tells you where you are in the series of jpegs.

However, don't think I saw the following before ? No idea what it means ?


Is it a little faster, or is that just because I'm looking at a smaller version ?

jimmer wrote: Comix version 0.3.2:

I guess this is no worse than self-criticism, but I'm having a linking problem


What can I say ? I'm stoopid

Trippynet wrote: Thanks for the feedback! I must admit that the Indigo2 was probably quite comparable with PCs of the 90s era ...

Hang on a sec, Trip. Just one point. Windows 95, bless its little DOS heart, came out at the end of 1995. The Pentium Pro (180 and 200 mhz) came out some time around then. Around 1998 I had a neighbor with a purple Indigo2 which made my hot-to-trot peecee look like that retarded kid on the Special Olympics poster. The Indigo2 throughout the 90's would kick peecee ass both in hardware and software, from here to Uranus

It wasn't until the mid-2000's that a peecee could honestly claim to be somewhat equal to an Indigo2. Around 2000 I dragged a lowly Indy to China, where it was faster and better than any of the peecee's that company had.

Let us not disparage our own proud roots

jimmer is a mean man

But I finally figured out that I never installed the debug Viewkit libaries ... oops. So, drop the -DEBUG directive and change the libraries from /usr/local/lib (you really have your ViewKit there, jimmer ?) to /usr/Motif-2.1/lib32 and awaaaay she goes !

The centered "page 1 of 32" thing looks nice. The progress bar looks very Irix-native. File handling looks very Irix-native, maybe needs a filtration option ? Image scaling still needs some work ... full-screening is interesting

Looks pretty good tho ... lots of potential. Don't waste your time on tardists, j. You keep banging on useful code, someone else can knock out binaries ...

Now let's make it view jpegs

foetz wrote: there was a reason why i provided the edited makefiles (which you didn't try it seems ).

I did ! I did ! And thank you !

But I'm a stubborn old bastard who wants to understand why things don't work, so I went back and struggled with it a little, too.

mia wrote: keep us posted!

Please do. I want to hear what happens when the NSA notices Soviet-encrypted emails passing through Google

Put a vpn card in the router (shhh, don't tell anyone), had to turn it off to open the box


No cheating !

mia wrote: what box is this?

Elderly MIPS-powered Cisco router (it's doing some other stuff too).

nekonoko wrote: (and IR3 blew the doors off of V12).

Ha ! Should have kept your mouth shut, now I'm going to bother you !

In what way ? This is not just an intellectual exercise : I can go with 4 V12's or try to get IR shovelled into 4 dvi connectors. Both methods have advantages / disadvantages. But the thing you can't tell without real-world experience is, how do IR and VPro graphics compare in use ?

duck wrote: Oh great, now I feel OLD

That's 'cuz you are old ! Never trust anyone over 30 !

You really need to get Myst;

Wasn't Myst created on Barney-boxes ? I have a video "Creation of Myst" or something, somewhere, and it's all SGI hardware

Can't help you with running it on macs

I wish they released it on the hardware they made it on

scottE wrote: [ Riven: made with both Macs with all the graphics being done on the SGI (Softimage, MentalRay, and some custom shader stuff for MR

Ah, Riven, the black sheep of the family, married out of her race

Thanks for the correction.

ibara wrote: I wish I had taken a screenshot of that...

Amends for brainfade, can add another camera known to work ...


The name printed on top is "BlackHawk IEEE1394 Digital Camera" but it looks exactly like the iRez Stealthfire. The DuoConnect didn't seem to like it. Tezro and O350 don't seem to like the DuoConnect, so maybe that's fair ... Had to use recondas' excellent writeup to discover that the TIMING on this camera was the glitch,

so tried ...

which brought it to life. Not bad. Focus is sharp, motion is decent, looks as good as Facetime even in fairly low-light conditions, pretty good for a webcam. Looks like the basics of getting an IIDC camera to work have been solved

recondas wrote: the Blackhawk IEEE1394 Digital Camera has been added to the list.

Cool, thank you. I'm pretty sure (99.9%) that this is an iRez Stealthfire so that guy could probably go itno the Approved category too. Found a couple photos, they look identical.

But the helpful part is, I actually discovered a step you missed Me, too, but when I did < man iidc > it came up with this :

Run the mlquery -d first to get the correct device name (most likely going to be iidc-camera but never hurts to make sure) then

and mlquery will get all the device's advertised capabilities Trial and error is more my style but this is pretty handy ...

diegel wrote: This is one of our terminal servers, we are using for remote console login:

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terminal2 uptime is 10 years, 44 weeks, 6 days, 13 hours, 14 minutes


I don't want to jump to conclusions or anything, but you may have just won this contest

recondas wrote: With the Graphics Module you can have two pipes. The second pipe is roughly equivalent to what the deskside offers - room for two Raster Managers. The first pipe in a Graphics Module has room for four Raster Managers.

The display resolution is controlled by the Display Generator, which has a maximum bandwidth of 300 Mpix/sec (*just* enough for two 1920x1080_60 displays, but not enough for two at 1920x1200_60).

But probably enough for two 1920x1200 @ 50hz displays Is that the four-RM pipe or the two-RM pipe ? Or does the number of raster managers matter since the limiting factor is the display mangler ?

Tim Cook, Chief Slimeball Confidence Artist for Apple wrote: "In July, when Apple reported revenue in Greater China had dropped 14 percent in the previous quarter, he blamed a downturn in purchases in Hong Kong, where tourists and resellers are major customers."

Ahem. Does this answer your question, O45 ?

Can we say, "Another little con game", children ? I knew we could ....

My only question is, what is 'Lesser China' ?

Geoman wrote: I installed Firefox3 from Nekoware/stable using nekosync on my 'new' Octane/SSI (fresh install of 6.5.16 then patch 5086 then update to 6.5.22). On start I get:

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IRIS 1% firefox3
Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file

Since I've just been through this ... you've got errors in your fonts setup. You're not seeing them in other programs because the traditional apps use X but Fireflop is dependent on freetype and fontconfig. Fireflop3 definitely needs fontconfig running correctly to work.

Even in a generally usable state, I was seeing the occasional pango gdk-pixbuf etc warning: notices, followed shortly by a crash. With my current well-oiled highly-tuned font setup, those have gone away completely.

(Still get the occasional std:badalloc and a core dump tho. Not too often but once in a while.)

Firefox2, on which I'm typing this, is running flawlessly.

And displaying in a 4" wide stripe down the center of the window Unfortunately, Flop2 doesn't work correctly on a whole bunch of sites.

You're right, it did not seem to be as persnickety, tho.

You may have some other problems too, but the errors you are getting are exactly the same as what I was seeing, which are now corrected by fixing the fonts setup. And I finally got the chinese working, too. Yay !

A word of warning : if you only mess around with fontconfig, you're safe. I think canavan put a working nekoware setup in fonts.conf (or whatever the config file is named). Make your additions to a file < local.conf > and save backups.

But if you dive deeper and make changes to X, definitely save the originals so that when you single-user in, all you have to do is some renaming. If your fonts setup is screwed up, it's quite possible that you won't be able to start X. This is an uncomfortable situation (And kind of a stupidity on X'es part, if you ask me. But nobody did, so it is what it is ...)

Also if you make changes to the X end of things, do not repeat do not forget as root to < xset fp rehash > after you make any changes or you will be sooo sorry. You can also set the bootup screen to verbose, that will give you some hints - such as "Error in item 3 of fontpath, starting from 0" right before XSgi refuses to start.

It was worth it in the end tho, imo. Now when I ask for Helvetica, I get Helvetica. The very same Helvetica that the printer uses, not something kinda-sorta similar.

Geoman wrote: This guy needs some TRAMs though..

With two Octanes, you can have one V-Pro and one with MardiGras. The MardiGras machine can use all the video options

MXE's are going to cost more than V12's one of these days ...

Geoman wrote: Should Canavan's modifications then be a prerequisite when installing neko_firefox3.0.19.tardist or automatically changed during install?

I had a little struggle with that myself .. iirc, canavan added the infinality subpixel rendering options to freetype. Unless you build freetype 2.5.2 yourself with that enabled, that's so far the nicest.

I guess the defaults must be okay, most people don't have this trouble but you and I must have screwed things up


Fontconfig's method was to offer several different sample configs, then you could choose the one you liked and rename or link to that. I had to study a little to see what it really wanted.

Their other suggestion, to add any local enhancements to local.conf and leave the fonts.conf file pretty much alone was a good one. When you upgrade you lose your nice modified fonts.conf. Ask me how I know Local.conf will stay the same.

The configuration files and examples are under

/usr/nekoware/etc/fonts

there are samples in the /conf.avail directory, canavan's default fonts.conf should work for most people ? but I probaly messed it up ... your first error message was "fontconfig not available" or similar, so you are most likely in the same boat as me. And your fireflop error messages were the same as mine.

Thorough (but not so well-written) instructions should be here :

/usr/nekoware/share/doc/fontconfig

Recently, nekoware is just as good but doesn't get tested or upgraded as much, so you have to struggle a little more.

BTW it's cool that SGI licensed Helvetica for IRIX back in the days...

Display Postscript, too

diegel wrote: What are you using?

No-Script 2.6.6.8rc1
Chatzilla 0.9.86

Firebug was working but I ditched it. It does work but seems like a huge resource hog

Also have a proxy that blocks out a lot of advertising crap, which helps. Same idea as Geoman

Two more items that might be relevant :

gtk 2.13.2
freetype 2.5.2 w/subpixel rendering

also

Plugger 5.1.3, got about half the plugins working as helper apps

libivplug works but not too many people put Inventor files up on the internet

movieplayer plays some movies but not all

java 1.1.1c, not that much Java 1.1 out there

ProductView Express, which does not work but claims it does

SQLite Manager 4.8.1.8 also works - but I'm not sure I really want to see how much data is being collected by Big Brother back in MinMoz ... people might want to try it, tho. It's interesting.

jpstewart wrote: The good old DAT drive in the Indigo happily ran through a full backup

There's a good chance that drive has the firmware to do audio DAT. Grab yourself a Sony DATman and have fun

SAQ wrote: ... don't worry about having the wars of the roses reenacted in your computer room.

The best part was when he pissed on the fish. I've wanted to do that ever since

tooR wrote: ... full work CPU R12000 in my Indigo2.

Cool !

Here's another good one for when you get bored : the Indigo2 250 mhz cpu into an Indigo (1). Voltage is wrong so that would need modification and the card is slightly too big so you'd have to mess with the case a tad but ... 250mhz Indigo, that would be great !

And it should work software-wise, the 150 mhz swap is a bolt-in.

foetz wrote: irix 4 is gonna be a hardcore retro trip

with irix 5 on the other hand you can actually get stuff done ...

s - l - o - w - l - y

Tom Davis wrote: Before I upgraded from 4.0.5 to the MR version of 5.1, I ran some
timings of some everyday activities to see what would happen. These
timings were all made with the wall clock, so they represent precisely
what our users will see. I run a 32 megabyte R4000 Elan.

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Test                   4.0.5                 5.1         % change
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C compile of a          25 sec              35 sec          40%
small application

C++ compile of a        68 sec              105 sec         54%
small application

Showcase startup,       13 sec              18 sec          38%
May report file

Start a shell           <2 sec              ~3 sec         ~50%

Jot 2 MB file           <2 sec              ~3 sec         ~50%


5.3 was supposed to be better tho, wasn't it ? I hope so ...

This is even more relevant now than it was then -- if T Davis looks at Gtk3 he'll have a heart attack

http://seriss.com/people/erco/sgi-irix- ... cument.txt

foetz wrote: ... obviously when running irix 5 or older speed is not the primary concern

I swear I got more done on a 33 mhz 486 than I do now

A minor diversion but entertaining for a few moments ...

foetz wrote: ... you might wanna talk with the author about any issues that might come up

Don't know if this applies but when I was messing with GraphicsMagicke I was told that threads in Irix and Open MP clash. Last time I talked to the head guy, he was working on this but up til now, you can't compile GM with both threads and OpenMP.

Seems odd since SGI was the mom of OpenMP but like a wilful child, it's forgotten its loving parents

jan-jaap wrote: The problem is that IRIX supports two thread models: traditional (sproc) threads and POSIX threads. You cannot mix thread models in a single IRIX process.

Thanks, j-j. Good to know the reason ... is there an easy way to know which libaries use which threads ?

Vladio wrote: I'll do my best to keep it available going forward.

It's actually easier than photosloppit :

Directly below the text editing window is a button labeled "Browse ..."

Click that.

It will open a new popup file travesty window. Navigate your hard drive then double click the image name.

A new popup does, graphically showing the upload.

Then again, directly below the "Browse ..." button is another, "Add the file"

Click that and Bob's yer uncle, done.

I like to also click "Place Inline" because that way you can set the image where you want it in the text, but it's not necessary if you're really rushed for time.

PymbleSoftware wrote: Social media appears mostly fraudulent to me...

Sharp eyes and a functioning brain there, Mr Pymble ! The entire "social media" stinky poo is pretty much a worthless con game. Someone recently sued Facebook for the $600,000 they wasted on Facebook advertising. The claim was not just that the results were poor (zero, in fact) but that the "metrics" used to justify the charges were fraudulent.

Of course, he was stupid enough to throw away $600,000 on nonsense so it's difficult to feel sorry for him ...

You have to laugh at the media peddling this shit as well ... "So-and-so reported it to his friend on social media ! Gush gush gush !"

That's about as earth-shaking as "Dr Whatsis rescheduled the appointment on the telephone !! " Omigod !

Consumerism. It's ridiculous.

smj wrote: A large part of this has to do with figuring out what's going on with the whole "like" economy.

I'm sure there is a chapter or three about this in Gibbon, but maybe someone can explain what's going on :

These days, if you search for something .. doesn't matter if it's common or arcane, the search engines must be in on it, type "1956 Arnolt-MG" and you'll get a lot of hits, "Best Prices on 1956 Arnolt-MG here !" Since there are only 20 or 30 of them in existence, that's pretty unlikely. Google can't be ignorant of this.

Then you actually try to dig through the 63,000 useless links to find one or two that might hide some real info, you will mostly find George Dickless' Worthless Blog, Follow Me on Tweeter ! and he's set up some script that somehow grabs your search term, javascriptically links it to wikipedia, scams three lines of wikipedia which it then buries in a pile of his own worthless poo surrounded by advertisements for penile implants.

But wait. The best part is the comments section, where nine people write "Thank you so much for this ! I've been looking all over for this information. [They should have tried Home Shopping Channel.] I will be following your writing in the future and forwarding to my friends !" Sometimes they try to sneak in a link to a competing penile impant company but often, not even that.


What is the point of all that crap ? This is not a single deviated prevert living in his Mom's basement, it's all over the place. There must be a reason.

What does this achieve ?

btw : pretty gruesome video, sm. Gack