The collected works of hamei - Page 16

squigly wrote:
... reading through the forums sounds like I'd rather poke my self in the eyes then installing an Irix).

It's not that bad :) Plus the benefit is that you actually get graphics with Irix. And a lot of fun utilities and a video interface.

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I'm currently trying to get Wifi on it (keyword: trying. I think the OpenBSD enables that, not sure if I can setup usb/wifi on 02/irix. didn't dig anything useful on google).

Zahal (?) managed that with a pci card, so it can be done. Use the Search, Luke :)
squigly wrote:
Say, *suppoooooose* I'd rather stick with OpenBSD on O2, is it a blasphemy and I'm banned from nekochan for all eternity, or is it cool to seek for help here?

You can ask but the number of Irix users is a lot, the number of OpenBSD on O2 users here, very few. To me, one of the most fun things to do with an O2 is play with video. I don't believe that OpenBSD has support for the O2 video hardware ?

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At any rate, will try Irix eventually, once I get installation set. ebay has some, but they seem somewhat outdated (and I do want to enjoy alllllll the goodies this site has to offer).

That's not really such a problem as long as they aren't totally ancient, since nekoware runs on 6.5.22 or better. There's not much reason to go higher than 6.5.22 on an O2 and the 6.5.22 download is free from SGI.
Pontus wrote: Already in my signature.

Hate to be a spoilsport but the white does not show up at all well on the light blue background. Reminds me of that famous painting "Black Cat Sitting in a Coal Mine at Midnight." Would a single pixel of a darker color around the edges help ?
zmttoxics wrote:
But it matters not. The people that have them will tell you its not about benchmarks. :)

Unless you are a magazine they don't pay you for running benchmarks :)
dc_v01 wrote:
Agree that Win2K was the first good MS OS, but Office was a good product earlier. Any good new features since '97?

I've never been a fan of Word ... I hate the way it insists on "helping" me and turns a three-sentence letter into a 250 megabyte file.

First Choice was decent, then FootprintWorks was nice. deScribe was great, far superior to any version of Word. Ami Pro 3.1 for Windows 3.1 was just about the ideal size and the tabbed interface was a revelation. Smart Suite was equal to Word, maybe a little nicer. I bought Serif PagePlus for Windows 3.1 - that did a good job for brochures and the like. Ditched it when they went to Windows 95. People who can actually type like WordPerfect. Currently I use Open Orifice to read Word files (not a big fan) and Framemaker to create documents. Framemaker is pretty good and the output is superior to Word, imo.

There were lots of choices in the word processor arena, most of them better than Word. Ami Pro 3.1 would be nice on Unix. Or deScribe. Open Orifice is like, "Jeffrey Dahmer murdered 35 people so we should, too." Talk about copycat :(

If some of those companies had had a brain and charged a reasonable price for a word processor, Word would not have become so dominant.

It used to be fun to do artwork. There's nothing like the smell of Lepage's on a spring morning :D I'm not so sure the quality of the work is any better with PShop and Illustrator, either. There's sort of a sameness to all the computer-assisted artwork ...
Black Cardinal wrote:
Excel took over from Lotus 1-2-3 because the mouse-driven interface and WYSIWYG editing made it much easier to use. It's a rare example of Microsoft actually developing a superior original product.

If those are your criteria, I'd have to disagree. 1-2-3 was just as capable as Excel and just as easy to use and just as mouse-driven. And the Lotus word processor is easily the equal of Word - i.e., both are bloated kluges. 80% of Excel users just use it to produce lists and schedules, anyhow.

If you can find a copy of Ami Pro 3.0, try it out. It's great.

The big differences were that Microsoft paid Ziff-Davis a lot more money plus at that time IBM was the bad guy while Mickeysoft was the golden-haired darling of the mainstream computer press.

(Would have to agree that Excel is one of the better things Mickey ever did, tho. Maybe the only decent thing they've ever done !)
recondas wrote:
Lots of furniture manufacturing business around here. The economy has been especially tough on the smaller ones, so quite a bit of industrial-type/3-phase stuff has been appearing in auctions or with used tool dealers.

It's super simple and cheap to build a rotary three-phase converter. You do get one high leg but most motors don't seem to care. Not sure how an Origin would feel about that, tho.
maxsleg wrote:
What is worth doing in Kamloops?

You can turn left and head for Prince Rupert :D
bri3d wrote:
Another possible scenario is that something in the Qube was shorted to the Qube's case and the Qube's case was not properly grounded. When you plugged the serial cable from the I2 to the Qube, the I2's case (thru the serial port border/shield) provided a ground path for the current, but whatever was shorted to the Qube's case fried.

Seems like the most likely scenario ...

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if both systems are grounded separately there can be a potential difference of up to a few V between the grounds, and the differential can manifest in a lot of ways (current flowing through cable shields when attaching the systems together ....

This is why experienced people cut the shield on one end of any rs-232 cable. The shield is supposed to be a shield, not a conductor. If you accidentally have different potentials on the pieces being connected the shield carries current. Bad idear.
josehill wrote:
Still, it was nice to read some favorable coverage for a change.

If Rackable didn't come out with products like the Octane III and the Origin 400, you might hear fewer negative comments :(

Most SGI lovers really wanted them to do well but they seem pretty talented at butchering (what remained of) the SGI mystique.
modology wrote:
Was wondering if anyone here has updated NEDIT tardist on nekoware with SGI GUi widget?

You can use this in your .Xdefaults or .Xresources :
Code:
! for nedit

nedit*enableThinThickness:     True
nedit*enableToggleVisual:      True
nedit*enableToggleColor:       True
nedit*XmToggleButton.indicatorSize: 11
nedit*enableEtchedInMenu:      True
nedit*XmMenuShell*XmTearOffButton*ShadowThickness:   2
nedit*text.background:         antique white
nedit*text.selectBackground:   #D0D0FF
nedit*text.lineNumForeground:  #A0A0D0
nedit*background:              gray85
nedit*statsForm.background:    gray85
nedit*topShadowColor:          #fefefe
nedit*XmText.background:       white
nedit*XmTextField.background:  white
nedit*XmList.background:       white
nedit.typingHidesPointer:    False
nedit*scrollBarPlacement:    BOTTOM_LEFT
nedit*textVertScrollBar.foreground:   SlateGray
nedit*tearOffModel:      TEAR_OFF_ENABLED


I think this came from canavan, does a pretty nice job of Irrixxifying nedit.
Black Cardinal wrote:
When I first used Excel 2 in 1989 (under runtime Windows/286!) it was miles beyond text-mode 1-2-3 that used the "/" key for accessing keystroke menus.

You're one of three human beings still living who have actually seen that program :)

By the time spreadsheets were common, 1-2-3 was just as graphical. I still say that marketing was a major factor in the way Mickey conquered the office world.

The spreadsheet that's neat is Mesa. You can have live inputs in the cells. Pretty spiffy feature, does Excel even have that ?
kjaer wrote:
hamei wrote:
By the time spreadsheets were common, 1-2-3 was just as graphical.


"By the time spreadsheets were common"? Seriously? VisiCalc was THE killer app for microcomputers in the early '80s, to say nothing of how successful MultiPlan and 1-2-3 were. Excel on Windows was nearly ten years after VisiCalc popularized the spreadsheet idea.

Sure, but Visicalc sold a total of one million copies over its entire lifetime, give or take a dozen. Nowadays Mickeysoft wouldn't even fire up the printer for software that only sold a million copies. Harley-Davidson made more money than that selling panties. Let's face it, NONE of this stuff was what you'd call "common" until quite a bit later.
I had a problem with a snoop once. Pulled out the .45, squoze off a round, got him right between the eyes. That was the end of that.
sybrfreq wrote:
MS has to stay in business somehow ...

Why ?
smj wrote:
... the Porsche Club of America will hold one of their bigger events this year about an hour from Kamloops.

I've heard there's a lot of porcupines there, too ! :D
R-ten-K wrote:
Be..be..because I still have them in my portfolio? :cry:

Sell it. Buy BP. When word comes out about the secret talks with Shell, BP will skyrocket. Then sell it.

There's your friendly tip for the day :D
Missed one other option :D
sybrfreq wrote:
Anything worth seeing? Anybody going/gone already?

The Assist's mom and aunt went yesterday. Five hour lines to get into anything worthwhile. No thanks. Assist didn't even bother to go in, the line thru security was too long.
nekonoko wrote:

Could you install it on his computer while you're at it ? :D
modology wrote:
I've been wishing that someone can build a new version of Inkscape for IRIX ...

I have been wishing that someone would fix Inkscape, period. Crashes on everything it's supposed to run on, hasn't been touched in years. Maybe some of the people who are so excited about getting Linux running on SGI hardware could do something useful for a change ...
^^ Heh heh. Betcha never thought Apple would be worth more than Mickeysoft, either :P
Nothing special but the x86 Solaris box was not all that exciting, so ...
Code:
johnny 1% hinv -vm
Location: /hw/module/001c02/node
IP45_4CPU Board: barcode NCA592     part 030-1779-001 rev -C
Location: /hw/module/001c02/Ibrick/xtalk/14
IO8 Board: barcode MMG442     part 030-1673-003 rev -G
Location: /hw/module/001c02/Ibrick/xtalk/15
IO8 Board: barcode MMG442     part 030-1673-003 rev -G
4 500 MHZ IP35 Processors
CPU: MIPS R14000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.4
johnny 3% hinv -vm
Location: /hw/module/001c02/node
IP45_4CPU Board: barcode NCA592     part 030-1779-001 rev -C
Location: /hw/module/001c02/Ibrick/xtalk/14
IO8 Board: barcode MMG442     part 030-1673-003 rev -G
Location: /hw/module/001c02/Ibrick/xtalk/15
IO8 Board: barcode MMG442     part 030-1673-003 rev -G
4 500 MHZ IP35 Processors
CPU: MIPS R14000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.4
FPU: MIPS R14010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 2.4
CPU 0 at Module 001c02/Slot 0/Slice A: 500 Mhz MIPS R14000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 2.4. Scache: Size 2 MB Speed 250 Mhz  Tap 0x1a
CPU 1 at Module 001c02/Slot 0/Slice B: 500 Mhz MIPS R14000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 2.4. Scache: Size 2 MB Speed 250 Mhz  Tap 0x1a
CPU 2 at Module 001c02/Slot 0/Slice C: 500 Mhz MIPS R14000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 2.4. Scache: Size 2 MB Speed 250 Mhz  Tap 0x1a
CPU 3 at Module 001c02/Slot 0/Slice D: 500 Mhz MIPS R14000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 2.4. Scache: Size 2 MB Speed 250 Mhz  Tap 0x1a
Main memory size: 2048 Mbytes
Instruction cache size: 32 Kbytes
Data cache size: 32 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 2 Mbytes
Memory at Module 001c02/Slot 0: 2048 MB (enabled)
Bank 0 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 1 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 2 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 3 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Integral SCSI controller 4: Version SAS/SATA LS1064
Disk drive: unit 0 on SCSI controller 4 (unit 0)
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version QL12160, low voltage differential
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 1)
Integral SCSI controller 1: Version QL12160, low voltage differential
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty3
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty4
Integral Fast Ethernet: ef0, version 1, module 001c02, pci 4
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1000, device 0x0050) PCI slot 2
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1216) PCI slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0003) PCI slot 4
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x11c1, device 0x5802) PCI slot 5
IOC3/IOC4 external interrupts: 1
HUB in Module 001c02/Slot 0: Revision 2 Speed 200.00 Mhz (enabled)
IP35prom in Module 001c02/Slot n0: Revision 6.145
USB controller: type OHCI


The only thing that's at all special is that I did a little butchery, used a scsi disk for boot and stuck a 500 gig sata disk in slot two for storage. That worked out nicely.
modology wrote:
[image]http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/4963/filew.png[/image]

Oh, imageshack. No wonder my connection to nekochan has been screwed up for days.

Imageshack hurt the feelings of the Chinese people and damages our harmonica society so it's blocked. Not only is it blocked but if you try to go there, your connection is clamped to molasses speed for a period of time.

Sorry for the unauthorized use of italics, Sky. Check's in the mail, I promise :)
SAQ wrote:
I can't stand Jobs, but he's great at business.

Not really. Remember the fate of NeXT Computer ? And the original Apple ?

But one thing you can say about him : he learns from his mistakes. The man has a brain and really knows his product.

Which leads me to ask :

Why is anyone taking Carly Fiorina seriously ?
recondas wrote:
Nice - how about a photo or two of the mod when you get the chance?

Can't see much through the baling wire right now ... plan is to replace the fans with quieter ones some time in 2012 and clean up the mess at that time.

It's hard to do anything nice without a Bridgeport and a surface grinder, isn't it ? I admire people who have the patience to sit there with a file for three days.
maxsleg wrote:
I guess the big surprise is that, so far, not many Canadians can use their indicators (also an issue when I drive down 101 from SFO to San Jose)..

I never use the indicators. It draws too much attention.
recondas wrote:
Did you use a 2.5" inch SATA drive? Looks like there's room for a SATA data/power cables to go under the SCA backplane <or through a hole filed/milled in the metal enclosure :D >, but it looks like a 3.5" drive mounted in the sled would be too close to the SCA backplane.

Slid the SCA backplane entirely out, dropped in the original boot disk from the Fuel. The scsi cable which used to connect to that backplane now connects directly to the boot disk. Added a two-to-one power splitter to a SATA disk in the other slot with a longish sata cord and away we go. I lost the hard drive activity lights doing it this way but those are mostly decorative anyhow. It would be possible to connect them elsewhere, I'm sure, but too much trouble for something that's going to be in a closed rack anyhow.

One thing I do notice is that MPlayer running remotely crashes. It starts up fine on the Origin, displaying on the Fuel, but as soon as it starts to play it locks up hard. Playing the same file over the network from MPlayer on the Fuel works fine. Anyone else with a similar setup care to test that ?

Should put a gigE card in also I suppose but so far the normal 10/100 connection is good enough.

Origin 300's are getting to be cheap. So far I like it.
They seemed kind of obnoxious until I went to Wiki and read this :

wikipedophile wrote:
After the Confederations Cup FIFA received complaints from multiple European broadcasters who wanted it banned for the 2010 FIFA World Cup because the sound drowns out the commentators.

Every cloud has a silver lining :P
jan-jaap wrote:
In Europe, 3-phase is 380V.

380v 50hz, equivalent to 460v 60hz

Personally, I wish that George Westinghouse had won and we were powering everything with compressed air ...
jorgevaldes wrote: ... if I manage to get my hands on a V12 card and the 747w PSU it needs, how easy is it to upgrade/install?

The power supply is totally simple - slide out old, slide in new. On the graphics, if you go from Mardi Gras graphics to V-Pro it's a little bit more complicated but not so much. There's full instructions at Techpubs. Techpubs is great, by the way. Wander over there and get all the manuals.

Will multiple processor be easy to install?

Unscrew old, screw in new :)
But are licence transfers still in the tens of thousands of dollars as they were years ago?

Licenses ? We don' gotta show you no steenkin' licenses !

Okay, sorry ... it's my environment. We don't do that license junk but I've been told that Autodesk is actually a lot better to deal with on license transfers than Discreet was.

One last question.. I installed the wacom/dongle on one of the serial ports and flint didnt like it, a flame artist friend edited some sort of config file to get Flint to look for it on the other port... after that it started fine... I'm guessing I'll need to change the file again so Flint knows where to look for the VTR remote? If so anyone knows what file and what strings to change?

SGI was a bit of a cheapskate on the serial ports ... the system wants to keep the # 1 port for a terminal, which leaves you with just a single useful serial port. There's a card for the Octane called an MENET which will give you several more serial ports. There's also an SGI pci card which would fit into a shoehorn or shoebox and give you two more serial ports. I'd go with one of those - you never can tell when you may need a console on Port A.

Hope you enjoy your Octane - they're pretty fun :)
recondas wrote: No doubt faster processors and a V12 would be nice, but I'd suggest getting the system up and running in it's original configuration first - it would probably simplify the troubleshooting process.

Yeah, but dreamin' is free :)

Maxed out Octane processors and graphics still command respectable prices.

I'd go for a dual 400 cpu first. That's a noticeable difference in speed, the dual processors makes the system more responsive and the 400 is the best price-performance spot at the moment.

For a Flint machine, maybe don't want to go to V12 anyhow ? The VPro graphics don't couple up to all the video options you can run in an Octane. MXE is probably best for a video station.
recondas wrote:
<quoted from "Dirty Hamei" ... >.

Aye, but ee's a very clean old man, inn't he ?
You're more likely to find a compassionate conservative than a good Java interface. I can't think of a single Java program with a decent interface.. Used a fair amount of Java apps on OS/2 but they were all pretty awful. Except for smartcache, and that's commandline.

I think you're doomed.
^^ You got a handjob there ? Marianne Faithful was in that movie ... aaah, Marianne Faithfull ...

What was sent to the soldier’s wife
From the ancient city of Prague ?
From Prague came a pair of high heeled shoes,
With a kiss or two came the high heeled shoes
From the ancient city of Prague.

What was sent to the soldier’s wife
From Oslo over the sound ?
From Oslo he sent her a collar of fur,
How it pleases her, the little collar of fur
From Oslo over the sound.

What was sent to the soldier’s wife
From the wealth of Amsterdam ?
From Amsterdam, he got her a hat,
She looked sweet in that,
In her little Dutch hat
From the wealth of Amsterdam.

What was sent to the soldier’s wife
From Brussels in Belgian land ?
From Brussels he sent her the laces so rare
To have and to wear,
All those laces so rare
From Brussels in Belgian land.

What was sent to the soldier’s wife
From Paris, city of light ?
From Paris he sent her a silken gown,
It was ended in town, that silken gown,
From Paris, city of light.

What was sent to the soldier’s wife
From the South, from Bucharest ?
From Bucharest he got her this shirt
Embroidered and pert, that Rumanian shirt
From the South, from Bucharest.

What was sent to the soldier’s wife
From the far-off Russian land ?
From Russia he sent her a widow’s veil
For her dead to bewail in her widow’s veil
From the far-off Russian land,
From the far-off Russian land.
Black Cardinal wrote:
True, and I agree, but there is more paperwork when you ship internationally out of the U.S. The last time I did it, I had to fill out a longish-form to satisfy export requirements, and it's a pain. You have to look up ECCNs on a federal website. Even if it's no money out of the pocket of the seller, it is time.

If you use the post office, that's not true. There's a little green card with the address and contents and value. "Joe Sixpack, $50, circuit board." That's it.

I can understand some uneasiness about packages getting lost halfway around the world or being grafted by some Argentine Customs crooks or trashed by the Italian post office but Canada ? Silly.

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What I don't understand is why our government requires all of this red tape for small shipments by individuals or small businesses.

In the case of China, the United States' largest trading "partner", they should demand that you have the package individually inspected by the Inspection Bureau, have a long list of items that can't be shipped, charge 50% duty and tax, and a long long looong list of other bullcrap. China does.

You people are such tools. There is absolutely no reason to "re-evaluate the yuan." Just impose exacttly the same restrictions on Chinese imports that they impose on American ones. But no. You don't want a middle class. You don't want the average person to have a decent life. You all want to swivel around in overstuffed $1500 chairs and play bigshot Manager. That ain't gonna work, Bunky. Look around.
maxsleg wrote:
Mars bar :-)

Inspirational :D
Rhys wrote:
The other interesting article is SGI-related: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sgi-announces-hybrid-computing-platform-to-deliver-a-petaflop-in-a-single-cabinet-2010-06-01?reflink=MW_news_stmp . SGI is apparently back in the MIPS business, and planning to use Tilera processors as accelerators in next-generation Altix systems.


"SGI shows its R&D strength again," said Steve Conway, IDC research vice president for high performance computing. "Following closely on the heels of the Altix UV series, SGI has introduced a highly dense, scalable technology designed for strong sustained performance on very demanding HPC applications."

Yeah. That's why they went bankrupt twice, pissed away god knows how many billions then handed over all their goodies for pocket change a year ago. Definitely the leaders in this field ... you'd be better off listening to my grandma than this Conway dork.
recondas wrote:
Nothing like a warm nougat center........

That warm nougat center is the downfall of Man :(
Black Cardinal wrote:
Not the last time I shipped internationally, which was a few months ago. My local post office made me fill out a complete export declaration. I don't recall now where I was shipping to, but I think it was in Europe.

Hmm. We should research this. I don't get stuff all that often but it's been simple. I wonder if there's a declared value setting or something that kicks the process into pita ? The Assist has been getting stuff fairly often from overseas, since it's cheaper to buy clothes in the US or France than in China. Export declarations haven't been an issue.