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Wrote on the subject of Mixed feelings. at Feb. 21, 2005, 8:55 a.m...

Here's the press release:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/pressrelease.php?id=851

Naruto's not really my thing but I still hope it's treated well for fans of the show.

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Wrote on the subject of sgi branded external DVD-ROM question... at March 30, 2005, 9:05 p.m...

I second the cable theory - you would not believe the amount of crud you can wade through over an external SCSI cable on an SGI. For one example, if the upper 8-bits aren't terminated on the cable or adapter you're using that's a potential nightmare.

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Wrote on the subject of really slick screensavers at April 8, 2005, 4:26 p.m...

Wow, very nice work! I'm looking forward to checking it out - great writeup on the front page as well

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Wrote on the subject of PROM don't response via Net at April 13, 2005, 11:31 a.m...

Nice! Looks great

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Wrote on the subject of PROM don't response via Net at April 13, 2005, 3:01 p.m...

Antnee wrote:

squeen wrote: I get around 50 fps on a dual R14 600Mhz with everything turned on.

Stop showing off!

Heh, and that was two years ago - he's got a much faster machine these days

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Wrote on the subject of Origin 2000 Deskside + SI-Tram Graphics. how its going. at April 22, 2005, 6:02 p.m...

Which IRIX version did this work with? I remember reading that the O200 w/graphics head required a less recent IRIX version (6.5.19 or something) - is that still the case?

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Wrote on the subject of IRIX and IPv6 at April 25, 2005, 11:15 p.m...

hamei wrote:

chervarium wrote: The newly introduced host and dig commands (from the BIND distribution)

Is there a standalone < dig > around here or should I look in neko_BIND ? (I searched, really.) Kinda hate to further decimate the bandwidth for a small utility - looks like everyone is testing out squeen's new script right now

No kidding ... use the mirrors people!

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Wrote on the subject of neko firefox 1.0.4 at May 22, 2005, 8:46 p.m...

All Nekoware requires a MIPS4 processor - your Indy isn't supported. I've added a note to the downloads page to hopefully alleviate confusion in the future:

http://www.nekochan.net/downloads.php

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Wrote on the subject of cant boot my SGI o2 properly at June 1, 2005, 1:34 p.m...

zafunk wrote: D) Unplug the system, remove the motherboard. Next to the Dallas time keeper chip there is a jumper, put the jumper so it covers both pins. Reassemble the O2 and plug it in. Power up. Yank the plug (as it won't power down) and move the jumper back to where it was. Reassemble the unit and power up again.

Normally the power on jumper is only necessary if the power supply isn't powering up the system at all. With the amber light lit we're obviously getting power

I'd say it's more likely something is loose or perhaps a problem with the installed RAM.

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Wrote on the subject of cant boot my SGI o2 properly at June 1, 2005, 2:27 p.m...

zafunk wrote: True enough. I've only had to pull that trick once (Thankfully).

Me too - one of the O2s I bought from ILM needed the power on jumper trick when I brought it home. The O2 seemed completely dead prior to this - not even a hint of life when you'd hit power.

On the opposite spectrum I received an O2 via eBay a while back that had the power on jumper set to 'on' so the thing would just boot away as soon as it was plugged in

I switched it back to the default position and all was well. The eBay description mentioned the system would automatically power up when plugged in and that it was "a common problem with some O2 power supplies"

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Wrote on the subject of Neko_fixpath as tardist at June 2, 2005, 12:12 p.m...

ulenz wrote: Is it possible to upload the files to a nekochan-server with permission of the programmers ?

Absolutely. In fact, this is one package that could really benefit from a tardist install - the setup process is kind of a pain. It's all detailed in the thread you linked, but requires moving files around plus a special XML file (which specifies an 'anonymous' platform). All of the listed steps could be automated via a tardist.

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Wrote on the subject of adaptec 2944 at June 2, 2005, 1:30 p.m...

Hmm, this looks like a similar hack to the gigabit cards posted a while ago - but this has a Perl script to do the work

Honestly I'm not much of a Perl guru so I'm not sure why it's not working for you, but if the first occurrence of 0x8178 just needs to be replaced with 0x8478 you could modify it via a hex editor.

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[Megumi:~] neko 13% od -x /var/sysgen/boot/adp78.o | grep 8178


0014420 3405 8178 0000 3825 3c06 0000 0c00 0000


0015260 3409 8178 1049 0065 0240 2025 0000 2825

There are only two occurrences of 0x8178 in adp78.o that I can see so that limits the field a bit.

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Wrote on the subject of Neko_fixpath as tardist at June 3, 2005, 2:55 p.m...

Okay, here's a step by step.

1. Download the following files:

SGI_Irix6.5 BOINC V4.58 (2.99 MB) :
http://www.falconfly.de/boinc/boinc_4.5 ... rix6.5.bz2

SGI_Irix6.5 SETI V4.30 (2.59 MB) :
http://www.falconfly.de/boinc/setiathom ... gi_irix6.5

SGI_Irix6.5 app_info.xml (right-click in Browser to 'save as')
http://www.falconfly.de/boinc/app_info.xml

2. Remove bzip2 compression from boinc_4.58_mips-sgi-irix6.5.bz2:

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bzip2 -d boinc_4.58_mips-sgi-irix6.5.bz2

3. Set execute bit on setiathome and boinc:

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chmod +x boinc_4.58_mips-sgi-irix6.5


chmod +x setiathome_4.30_mips_sgi_irix6.5

4. Create 'boinc' directory:

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mkdir boinc

5. Move boinc_4.58_mips-sgi-irix6.5 executable into 'boinc' directory:

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mv boinc_4.58_mips-sgi-irix6.5 boinc/boinc

6. Enter boinc directory and run boinc executable:

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cd /boinc


./boinc

- The following should occur at this point:

- BOINC will ask for Project URL and Account Key - enter both

- BOINC will then suspend network and computing activity to run benchmark. Interrupt (CTRL-C) while benchmarking to avoid BOINC not finding Berkeley server and automatically detaching project (this is important).

7. Move seti binary and app_info.xml to their final location:

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mv ../setiathome_4.30_mips_sgi_irix6.5 projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/


mv ../app_info.xml projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/

8. Run BOINC again and let it complete benchmarks. Installation should now be complete.

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./boinc

Once everything's up and running, your directory structure should look like this:

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[Megumi:~] neko 1% ls -laR boinc/


boinc/:


total 2068


drwxr-xr-x    4 neko     staff        4096 Jun  3 01:56 ./


drwxr-xr-x  116 neko     staff       12288 Jun  3 01:53 ../


-rw-------    1 neko     staff         239 Jun  2 11:58 account_setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu.xml


-rwxr-xr-x    1 neko     staff     2045476 Jun  2 11:49 boinc*


-rw-r--r--    1 neko     staff        8683 Jun  3 01:56 client_state.xml


-rw-r--r--    1 neko     staff        8683 Jun  3 01:55 client_state_prev.xml


-rw-r--r--    1 neko     staff           0 Jun  2 11:56 lockfile


-rw-r--r--    1 neko     staff       12277 Jun  2 11:58 master.html


drwxr-xr-x    3 neko     staff          37 Jun  2 11:56 projects/


-rw-r--r--    1 neko     staff        2250 Jun  2 23:25 sched_reply_setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu.xml


-rw-r--r--    1 neko     staff        3004 Jun  2 23:25 sched_request_setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu.xml


drwxr-xr-x    3 neko     staff          14 Jun  2 11:58 slots/




boinc/projects:


total 8


drwxr-xr-x    3 neko     staff          37 Jun  2 11:56 ./


drwxr-xr-x    4 neko     staff        4096 Jun  3 01:56 ../


drwxr-xr-x    2 neko     staff        4096 Jun  2 23:25 setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/




boinc/projects/setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu:


total 3448


drwxr-xr-x    2 neko     staff        4096 Jun  2 23:25 ./


drwxr-xr-x    3 neko     staff          37 Jun  2 11:56 ../


-rw-------    1 neko     staff      361977 Jun  2 13:32 03dc03ab.22340.16593.523582.253


-rw-r--r--    1 neko     staff        7658 Jun  3 00:38 03dc03ab.22340.16593.523582.253_3_0


-rw-------    1 neko     staff      361965 Jun  2 23:25 03dc03ab.22340.19490.286082.71


-rw-r--r--    1 neko     staff         414 Dec 31 17:46 app_info.xml


-rwxr-xr-x    1 neko     staff     2725300 Jun  2 11:59 setiathome_4.30_mips_sgi_irix6.5*




boinc/slots:


total 4


drwxr-xr-x    3 neko     staff          14 Jun  2 11:58 ./


drwxr-xr-x    4 neko     staff        4096 Jun  3 01:56 ../


drwxr-xr-x    2 neko     staff         156 Jun  2 23:26 0/




boinc/slots/0:


total 20


drwxr-xr-x    2 neko     staff         156 Jun  2 23:26 ./


drwxr-xr-x    3 neko     staff          14 Jun  2 11:58 ../


-rw-r--r--    1 neko     staff           0 Jun  2 23:25 boinc_lockfile


-rw-r--r--    1 neko     staff        2809 Jun  2 23:25 init_data.xml


-rw-r--r--    1 neko     staff          99 Jun  2 23:25 result.sah


-rw-r--r--    1 neko     staff          96 Jun  2 23:25 setiathome_4.30_mips_sgi_irix6.5


-rw-r--r--    1 neko     staff        1567 Jun  3 01:56 state.sah


-rw-r--r--    1 neko     staff           0 Jun  2 23:25 stderr.txt


-rw-r--r--    1 neko     staff          95 Jun  2 23:25 work_unit.sah

My 'boinc' binary is a tad smaller since I ran 'strip' on it.

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Wrote on the subject of adaptec 2944 at June 6, 2005, 11:25 p.m...

Very cool that you got it working! I'll have to add a link to that page on the blog - don't think I've ever run across it before.

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Wrote on the subject of Neko_fixpath as tardist at June 8, 2005, 12:02 a.m...

babyrne wrote:

And no, I never did get the ssl directory that shows up in nekonoko's directory structure.

That's what I have - I don't remember entering anything special, but it definitely communicates with that URL for me:

Code:

2005-06-02 23:25:21 [---] May run out of work in 0.10 days; requesting more

2005-06-02 23:25:21 [SETI@home] Requesting 967.41 seconds of work

2005-06-02 23:25:21 [SETI@home] Sending request to scheduler: http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi

2005-06-02 23:25:22 [SETI@home] Scheduler RPC to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi succeeded

2005-06-02 23:25:23 [SETI@home] Started download of 03dc03ab.22340.19490.286082.71

2005-06-02 23:25:29 [SETI@home] Finished download of 03dc03ab.22340.19490.286082.71

2005-06-02 23:25:29 [SETI@home] Throughput 68048 bytes/sec

Probably doesn't matter much if it's working for you though.

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Wrote on the subject of Neko_fixpath as tardist at June 8, 2005, 12:07 a.m...

I don't recall - I probably used http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/

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Wrote on the subject of Neko_fixpath as tardist at June 9, 2005, 2:27 a.m...

Probably a bad time to be troubleshooting right now - the SETI@Home servers are down at the moment. They've been having all sorts of problems ever since I posted the blog entry - poor timing on my part I guess

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Wrote on the subject of Neko_fixpath as tardist at June 9, 2005, 12:21 p.m...

gus wrote:

Anyone had any luck with other BOINC apps on SGI such as Einstein@home? That one searches for gravity waves.

http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/

Is Einstein@Home open source? I don't see a source code download on their page. Without the source - no IRIX port.

Edit: Now I can't even get the Einstein@Home project page to load from here - I'm cursed!

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Wrote on the subject of Neko_fixpath as tardist at June 9, 2005, 12:40 p.m...

Doesn't surprise me - the current BOINC/SETI client for MIPS was apparently compiled with gcc. The code's not the most elegant from what I understand

I did try and give it a spin myself under MIPSpro but it died very early on. BOINC is written in C++ which isn't a language I'm versed in.

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Wrote on the subject of Neko_fixpath as tardist at June 11, 2005, 9:44 p.m...

Nope - nothing to do with Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) - that's just the abbreviation for Berkeley's Space Sciences Lab (SSL).

http://www.ssl.berkeley.edu/

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Wrote on the subject of Neko_fixpath as tardist at June 13, 2005, 9:57 a.m...

irixpgmr wrote: Don't get me wrong. I like einstein@home. I run it on all my machines except my SGI boxes. It just not viable to port at this time.

Understandable - just wanted to point out that the BOINC/SETI@Home currently in use for IRIX is a gcc compile, *not* MIPSpro. So if you're happy with how it works, well that's a start - compile it with gcc

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Wrote on the subject of Neko_fixpath as tardist at June 13, 2005, 4:18 p.m...

Yep, SETI is still having problems with their servers.

http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/tech_news.php

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Wrote on the subject of A few icons at June 17, 2005, 10:34 a.m...

Good article on File Type Rules here:

http://www.microcosmos.co.uk/sectionarticle1.html

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Wrote on the subject of neko firefox 1.0.4 at June 21, 2005, 4:03 a.m...

Gamma thread here:

viewtopic.php?t=473

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Wrote on the subject of Neko_fixpath as tardist at June 24, 2005, 2:24 p.m...

kshuff wrote: Whether BOINC is optimized for R4x00 I also cannot say, but again, probably would not be worth the effort.

I don't think the IRIX BOINC client is optimized for anything

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Wrote on the subject of Progress bars? at July 8, 2005, 5:19 a.m...

Eh, I think it's fairly harmless and it might even encourage some lurkers to answer questions and spread some more knowledge around. Nekochan isn't a big forum by any measure and I don't think it generally attracts those who would simply spam forums with emoticons to increase a post count, but if that does wind up happening then I'll of course revisit it.

We've had forum ranks pretty much since day one and it's gone well so far

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Wrote on the subject of Progress bars? at July 8, 2005, 9:27 a.m...

There is no algorithm - it's just a stock JPEG that's assigned to a rank. We had six existing ranks so I assigned one image to each rank. I could have used stars or chips or something else (you can download these packs from phpBB's site) but the "progress" bars looked nicer.

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Wrote on the subject of Compiling YafRay V0.0.7 On MIPSPRO at July 12, 2005, 10:22 a.m...

dexter1 wrote: I'll build a 0.0.8 yafray today and a new package should be in somewhere this week. I hope to compensate a little for the slower rendertime by attempting to profile the binary. Wish me luck

Cool! Great work as always

When you upload I'll announce it on the blog - it makes a very good companion to Blender.

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Wrote on the subject of NO:magic's Capture for use with SGI O2 systems at July 12, 2005, 10:33 a.m...

I haven't tried it but I did download the tardist last year; hopefully it's okay to mirror it here (it's only 300k):

ftp://ftp.nekochan.net/pub/irix/Graphic ... O2.tardist

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Wrote on the subject of Compiling YafRay V0.0.7 On MIPSPRO at July 12, 2005, 12:41 p.m...

miunk wrote:

This is with ncurses 5.4 - which I compiled /w gcc - perhaps my ncurses libs are no good?

I've haven't tried compiling this so my observation is just academic - but is there a reason you have to use ncurses? Most things will let you link against the system curses library instead ( -lcurses ).

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Wrote on the subject of Compiling YafRay V0.0.7 On MIPSPRO at July 14, 2005, 9:24 a.m...

skywriter wrote: i can't even visit the site to download it. which means yafray is inaccessible to me at work.

Actually the official YafRay site has direct downloads - it's only Blender.org that seems to want to link to Bittorrent files instead.

http://www.yafray.org/index.php?s=2

Edit: Looks like Blender.org removed the Bittorrent links and now just links to YafRay.org ...

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Wrote on the subject of SlimDesktop: Ten TarDist Customization Modules For 4Dwm! at Aug. 4, 2005, 9:01 p.m...

IRIX 6.5.22+ can handle .jpg background images natively (and PNG, BMP, etc.) ... what IRIX version are you targeting here, Diego? Since Nekoware targets 6.5.22+ anyway XLI is unnecessary.

If you're not aware of the method for using native .jpg backgrounds, see my post in this thread:

viewtopic.php?t=3984

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Wrote on the subject of SlimDesktop: Ten TarDist Customization Modules For 4Dwm! at Aug. 5, 2005, 5:33 p.m...

GeneratriX wrote:

Okay; seems that I'll make a newer version for >6.5.24, and I left the current with XLI for previous IRIX releases (seems useful for my own use anyway, where I'm installing sometimes for friends and customers some Indy/Indigo2 boxes only taking 6.5.22 as max version) :roll:

Thanks by your advice Neko!

But 6.5.22 can accept .jpg files! Everything 6.5.22+ which is the same requirement as Nekoware, so this still doesn't make sense

All your friends with Indy/Indigo2 boxes with 6.5.22 have native .jpg/.bmp/.png 4DWM background support; all the older machines have this capability. No XLI is needed.

http://reality.sgi.com/ralpht/resume/sc ... round.html

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Wrote on the subject of talk.google.com at Aug. 24, 2005, 1:59 a.m...

Well after reading the comments on Slashdot it appears that the GAIM crashing issue isn't isolated to IRIX - I'd say it's a bug.

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Wrote on the subject of talk.google.com at Aug. 25, 2005, 3:26 p.m...

Just did - still cores on talk.google.com.

nekonoko
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Wrote on the subject of Java 5? at Aug. 28, 2005, 9:25 p.m...

http://www.sgi.com/products/evaluation/ ... _1.4.1_06/

nekonoko
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Wrote on the subject of Nekoware bash-3.0 bug? at Sept. 26, 2005, 11:25 a.m...

Might be worthwhile to apply the bash-3.0 patches and see if that resolves anything:

http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/bash/bash-3.0-patches/

nekonoko
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Wrote on the subject of next neko-mplayer release at Oct. 6, 2005, 3:31 a.m...

Not really possible since mplayer depends on Windows .DLL files to implement Windows Media hence that solution only works on x86 Linux.

nekonoko
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Wrote on the subject of Open Office -newest version...? at Oct. 11, 2005, 12:19 p.m...

For IRIX? 1.0.3.1a.

nekonoko
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Wrote on the subject of Clearing out the 181GB drives... at Oct. 14, 2005, 12:19 p.m...

Okay, I can't resist another one at that price