The collected works of vishnu - Page 26

robespierre wrote: The exception support in C++ is half-baked, it doesn't allow for exceptions that are continuable.
Specifically, there are two ways to implement an exception system: either the stack is unwound to the point of the exception handler first, losing all inferior context; or the stack is searched for a handler but not unwound. in the latter case, the handler can adjust the signaling context and then tell it to continue. This is how Xerox's Cedar Mesa exceptions worked.

Yes but the guy who created Cedar Mesa exceptions said, at the C++ standardization meeting in 1991, “termination is preferred over resumption; this is not a matter of opinion but a matter of years of experience. Resumption is seductive, but not valid.”

Wiki article: in the "Termination semantics" section.

The way to force opengl to render in software is to uninstall your video card's opengl capable drivers!

But no, there is no way you can force it to happen programatically, which is to say, in the opengl source code that you write...

duck wrote:

TeamBlackFox wrote: Are you ipv6 only now duck? I'm still stuck on ipv4 here in Virginia with Verizon FiOS.

Nah, I just can't get my vanity domain on v4

Sounds like a dictatorial ISP problem to me!

In other news worthy of announcement, after considerable code refactoring I have finally gotten the smirc IRC client to compile! Well, on my Slackware 13.37 box using a fairly old version of g++. Will try it on my Octane tonight and if it works will build a tardist. It's a pretty advanced IRC client despite that it's been in suspended animation since 1999...

For fan power you could just buy an el-cheapo 12 volt linear power supply (I'm a purist, no switchers!). It wouldn't have to be much larger than your hand, run it off line voltage plugged into a wall outlet, and it's problem solved!

By a coincidence which may seem strange I just ordered a new laptop for my nephew from newegg, I love those guys!

Pete, may I be so bold as to enquire what hardware we're running under now? Cause I've got a fairly kick-ass never-been-used 2U dual Xeon HP server I'd have been perfectly happy to donate to the cause...

foetz wrote:

vishnu wrote: Will try it on my Octane tonight and if it works will build a tardist. It's a pretty advanced IRC client despite that it's been in suspended animation since 1999...

oh nice, i'd give it a try
with all due respect to irssi, for interactive use i do prefer a gui program. being on a bunch of networks with multiple channels each a gui client with a separate channel list and other perks is a serious improvement.

Coolness!

There's one problem I still need to solve, the pulldown widgets on the menubar aren't getting named, I compiled in editres support so you can name them with the editres resource setter, but he's got the widget creation so deeply enmeshed in C++ classes that I haven't been able to find yet where the names are getting missed. With older versions of g++ this didn't happen with the exact same code. Here's a screenshot, as you can see the widget label strings are falling back to their X Window ID numbers:

That was my vacation to Pango Pango!

You can always find out who's running what at netcraft, click in the what's that site running box and type in the URL...

tingo wrote: Oh, didn't your hear "Hotel California" in the background when you first arrived? ;^)

You can log out any time you like, but...

ClassicHasClass wrote: It happens to all of us. See, I came here for the ladies, and all I got was vishnu's avatar.

vishnu's jailbait avatar! We need a handcuffed smiley...

I think the first thing to do would be to check the installed software and remove any CADduo driver(s) you see there...

Just give it a try and let us know how it goes, you can still get it (apparently, I can see the file but I have not tried to dl it) here:

ftp://ftp.corel.ca/pub/WordPerfect/wpunix/60-5.2/demo/sgi/

This thread is now under arrest!

Case anyone's wondering more specifically where our fearless leader put his archived copy, see here:

ftp://ftp.nekochan.net/pub/irix/General/

Also, I'm seeing some ancient posts about the corruption that josehill mentioned, supposedly this guy posted a fixed version on his website but it's gone now, or at least I can't find it. Bolder souls than I may deign to contact him to see if he's still got it stashed somewhere...

I'm in Minnesota, I couldn't keep this place warm in the winter if I had a freakin' tokamak in my basement...

I can see Suse 9.1 going for 20 bucks on ebay right now, if you're willing to possibly throw good money after bad...

ClassicHasClass wrote: I'm in the desert wastes of So Cal, I couldn't keep this place cool in the summer if I had the freakin' state of Minnesota in my attic.

That would be like those guys who want to haul icebergs to the Gulf of Mexico to stop hurricanes...

hamei wrote: What we do in Mongolia (same as Meenasoda, right ?) is build the bed out of bricks and put a fire underneath it. Then you spend most of winter in bed ... Collate this with that other thread and ...

That sounds like it might be a bit too smokey for me. And Sue Lyon...

Well, I don't know about you guys but I can't get XSgi to accept a firefox window from my loonix-- damn, now he's got me doing it, linux box because XSgi is missing the RANDR extention. Been meaning to look into that for a while now, anyone know where sgi keeps the source code for their version of X?

hamei wrote: Whoa. You download the internet for local use ? Isn't that kind of extreme ?

Har!

Wait a minute, this is completely f-ed, according to xdpyinfo my octane does have the RANDR extension!

I guess it's just not a good enough RANDR for stoopy 'ol fireflop...

Doesn't there have to be something wrong with the site for a bounty to be posted? This place is perfect...

It's not that unusual to see empty or nearly empty sgi racks on ebay these days, usually origins and altixs, not sure where they're selling from, or rather I don't recall ever having looked, probably mostly from the US though, which helps you not at all...

I'm confusicated, according to the Oracle (wikipedia) Microsoft supports the Open Document format in the following:


There's got to be an open source Open Document reader somewhere that we can get to run under Irix, yes/no?

Actually, in true workstation fashion the Octane has four fans. The thing was designed to keep running no matter what, even if it was plunked down in the middle of the Sahara Desert...

See "What does MPI: could not run executable mean?" at techpubs:

http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/dynaweb_docs/0620/SGI_Developer/books/MPT_MPI_PM/sgi_html/ch08.html#id5192535

So I'm sitting here this morning waiting for a priority overnight order from Digikey, and the tracker shows the plane leaving at 5:14AM, but never never arriving, and it says "no estimated delivery date available at this time." So I'm like WTF, but then on the news they say a Fed Ex plane destined for Minneapolis from Memphis was diverted at 6:17AM due to a possible fire onboard...

So much for what I was hoping to get done today...

uunix wrote: Octane power supply?

Ha ha, nope those are too arcane for even Digikey!

It's three IFD98 fiber optic receivers, and at 31 bucks apiece they ain't cheap...

In addition to the system fan and the power supply fan there's a drive bay fan and a frontplane fan...

EDIT: Actually now that I think about it the system fan on the Octane is the drive bay fan, so, three fans not four. Been awhile since I had mine apart...

Reminds me of jwz's description of the Netscape engineering team circa version four point oh, "we were shipping crap and we were shipping it late." That manner of doing business is why one member of the board of directors at General Dynamics fled the country to avoid prosecution for fraud over his handling of the Trident submarine manufacturing contract. Oh, and with regard to the one percent net 30 charade, we do that, and always have in my recollection since my first day darkening those hallowed halls at work. Most of our vendors wise up eventually and don't offer the one percent. Others ignore it as the price of doing business with the fortune five hundred. Or, more accurately, the fraudulent five hundred! What's that line from Real Genius, "frauuuuuud is a FEL ony!"

Exactly what features do blender and firefox lack that you guys would be willing to bounty the addition of?

Having worked on several fairly large scale commercial development projects I can only say that in my humble opinion it is absolutely, unequivocally, 100 percent impossible to do so without a version control system. Back in the dark ages when we did all our development on SGIs we used CVS, now we use Clear Case. The main advantage to git over CVS is that it is much faster at merging large changesets. I don't know much about Mercurial or Subversion but I've always assumed they're basically the result of "not invented here" syndrome...

Ah I get it, you mean bounties to add features to the Irix versions of Blender and Firefox! I'm dumb but I'm sure slow...

Anyway, with regard to modeling and animation software, Maya 6.5 on Irix is pretty much feature complete.

Alver wrote: Wait, what? My zx6000 is a *lot* quiter than my x86 peecee home server. Granted, I don't push it very hard. If it weren't for the 3 SCSI disks, I doubt it'd be noticeable at all.

Better check it maybe the fans are dead...

Completely anecdotal but having watched sgi hardware on ebay since forever, I'd say that something like 99 out of 100, or maybe even 999 out of 1000 items, are ludicrously overpriced. Occasional gems pop up but they're rare and if you blink you miss 'em. I got my Octane2, complete with every imagineable piece of hollywood special effects software installed and running, for a mere 180 USD...

foetz wrote:

ivelegacy wrote: which is the equivalent Application for a modern SGI/MIPS workstation (Octane/Fuel) ?

well, a later poweranimator

Or Maya 6.5

For Irix 6.2 there is; anyone know if it will run under 6.5?

Obligatory techpubs link:

http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/tpl/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?coll=0620&db=bks&srch=&fname=/SGI_Developer/Pascal_PG/sgi_html/ch02.html

guardian452 wrote: hammei, my momma was a soccer mom and I was shuffled to and fro in the tiny back seat of her ram-air'ed pontiac trans am. No headrest mounted DVD players for me.

I bet your friends used to tell you your mom was hot...

Maybe they still do...

It's a funny joke but I think we're all aware that in order for an unsigned integer to overflow it's got to be a pure power of two, and since hamei didn't break nekochan at post number 256 you have to figure our post numbers must be stored in at least two bytes, so hamei's got at least another 55537 posts to go before he really breaks nekochan...

jwz says the Palm Pre gave him Stockholm Syndrome.

What's up with that miserable LU decomposition performance?

For the mathmatically inclined, the linear algebra pack is available on IRIX:

Ubiquitous techpubs link.

And

linear algebra pack homepage

It's part of the Open Inventor 2.1.7 Developer's Kit, I think it's on the nekochan ftp site somewhere...

EDIT: Hmmmm, I take that back, I just looked in /pub/irix/Graphics/Inventor but didn't see it...