The collected works of vishnu - Page 28

guardian452 wrote: A while back I put a 'teardown' of my onyx on ifixit.com
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Silicon ... down/12546

Nice!

Lovin' the St. Paddy's Day ground strap...

TeamBlackFox wrote: but I'm not interested in C++.

You should reconsider, C++ is the source; it'll change your life...

kshuff wrote: Mine came in as a lowly R3000 with Extreme graphics although I did upgrade it to an R4400, not sure how much ram as it hasn't been fired up in quite some time. Here's a shot of the graphics card...

That's not a graphics card that's an exercise in urban overcrowding!

Really amazing though, SGI engineering at it's best, thanks for posting it...

nobitoh wrote: I've compared the power supplies in our O200s and GIGAChannels and I can't spot any difference apart from the sticker that's used to indicate the part number and the rotation within the case.

nobitoh, you're still using O200's at your place of employ? We're still using a crapton of Sun hardware but we decommisioned our Altixes and Onyx2s years ago...

With regard to exceptions, the Unix philosophy from the very beginning has been to give up rather than recover, from wikipedia: The kernel panic was introduced in an early version of Unix and demonstrated a major difference between the design philosophies of Unix and its predecessor Multics. Multics developer Tom van Vleck recalls a discussion of this change with Unix developer Dennis Ritchie:

I remarked to Dennis that easily half the code I was writing in Multics was error recovery code. He said, "We left all that stuff out. If there's an error, we have this routine called panic, and when it is called, the machine crashes, and you holler down the hall, 'Hey, reboot it!'"

Just comment that line out and see what happens next.

jan-jaap wrote:

foetz wrote: there're still some declarations missing and CLOCK_MONOTONIC doesn't exist on irix

CLOCK_SGI_CYCLE can be used as a replacement

Seriously? I might have figured that out in like, a million years of googleing. jan-jaap, you truly are the Oracle...

I'll give the answer I always give, I use my SGI because the amount of money it would take to replace the software it has with their modern equivalents is vastly more than I care to spend. I'm talking about Maya, Pro/Engineer Wildfire, Shake, Catia, the final releases of those programs for Irix are still eminently useful...

Nice!

What'cha gon' do with it?

Presumably you're interested in the 3D modeling capability, in which case you could give Ayam a try...

We need to add a page to the wiki "Extreme SGI Modifications" ...

Axatax_ wrote: ....I worked with David Dawes on the original XF86 server for the Millennium I and II while @ Sun. This was right around the time Glide came to Linux, and I moved onto this ( http://openut.sourceforge.net/docs.php ). I'm the "Jeffrey" guy. Anyhow, nobody was doing AA in any Linux GUI @ the time (either in the font or widget set). I'll give you the benefit of the doubt though.

I've often wondered how many of us are (or were) commercial Unix vendor employees. My first job out of college was for AT&T, back in the dark ages when they were still hoping to make an eventual profit from Unix. I think we all know how well that worked out for them...

silicium wrote: Then I extracted pd-0.34-3 archive on the Indigo2 (mips3), and MIDI out from test audio menu seems functional: the Soft Synth is playing on the internal speaker. I will try with a real MIDI interface. There are a few more recent versions with a makefile.irix.
How to replace gcc with mipspro in makefiles and what are the typical shell env variables required for a successful build ?

There's an IRIX binary of 34.3 here, or do you want to compile it yourself just for funzies?

ivelegacy wrote: unfortunately it's to applicable to electronic =(

i mean EagleCAD, OrCAD, Altium, Tina, etc: i can't see any equivalent software for Irix!

Well, fortunately for me we have OrCAD 16 at work, but if you can get by with just capture, which is to say no PCB layout capability, LT Spice is awesome and a much better simulator than PSpice...

xcircuit used to compile cleanly on Irix, I haven't diddled with it since the 90's so that may very well no longer be the case. Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to give it a try anyway. Or any of these for that matter:

http://www.gpleda.org/

Anybody using iptables on their firewall? Any hints on how to hack the config file to let IRC traffic through? All the "simple and obvious" stuff I've tried has done nothing except start blocking my Apache webserver traffic from getting through as well... 0_o

I'm on travel for work so don't have access to the config file (not even I can get into my firewall from the Internet!), but it's pretty simple, the default is to drop everything then I specifically permit a few things through, I thought permitting traffic on the ports that are dedicated to IRC would do it, but noooooooo...

foetz wrote:

vishnu wrote: I'm on travel for work so don't have access to the config file (not even I can get into my firewall from the Internet!), but it's pretty simple, the default is to drop everything then I specifically permit a few things through, I thought permitting traffic on the ports that are dedicated to IRC would do it, but noooooooo...

just to be clear: do you just wanna use irc as a client or running an ircd?

Just as a client; trying to connect my newly compiled smirc to the nekochan irc server and I get a response back but it times out "waiting for authentication," it used to work just fine for me back in the days when the Internet was all friends, I'm pretty sure this is the first time I've tried to irc since I started running iptables on my Internet gateway, which, I guess makes it an Internet firewall now. It's just a circa-1997 Pentium Pro 200 with 2 NICs, a wireless card and a dialup modem running Slackware 14...

foetz wrote: a few irc things have changed. if you haven't used smirc for so long it might just not work anymore. you could simply turn the firewall off for a moment and try then. that'll instantly tell where the problem is.

one of these changes for example is that irc servers now require an initial pong after you sent the USER line. older irc programs don't have that.

Oh good grief, is there an updated RFC that describes that?

Just kidding! I know how to search RFCs, looks like 1459 and 2812 are relevant, with numerous websites from the Peanut Gallery chiming in...

Nice! Wouldn't mind picking up a handful of those myself someday...

Pix at some point yes?

If you want to run Maya 6.5, which was the best and final version Maya on Irix, and you want it to run in any sort of usable manner, you can forget about anything that doesn't have a VPro, which means you can forget about anything that's not either an Octane(2), Fuel or Tezro. If you're patient (and vigilent), you can eventually find a good deal on an Octane2 on ebay. In 2007 I bagged a 400MHz Octane2 w/ V6 for $180 US.

As long as X can see it, you can use a program such as xkeycaps to map it any way you like. And xkeycaps runs nicely on just about every version of Irix ever...

Well, for starters and just off the top of my head make sure that chkconfig windowsystem, xdm and desktop are on . chkconfig -s will report the status of every configuration flag on your system, or, to state it more accurately, of every configuration flag found in the directory /var/config.

If you don't mind trying something bold, daring and reckless you could do enableall and resetenv from the command monitor...

bushnrvn wrote: Haha! Challenge accepted.

Fail. No such file or directory for enableall.

But you did resetenv ? Have you chkconfiged appletalk to off ? Could be it's stuck waiting to see an appletalk network or somesuch...

recondas wrote:

bushnrvn wrote: Fail. No such file or directory for enableall.

If I haven't read too much into your post, it sounds like you might have run those commands inside IRIX. It wasn't explictly mentioned, but they're are meant to be run from the PROM, before IRIX loads.

Hrm yes I said "from the command monitor" whereas should have said "from the PROM"...

Make sure they watch out for the blancmange -shaped creatures from the planet Skyron in the Galaxy of Andromeda!

Yep that's the problem alright, he doesn't have the xserver installed. We should have had him check the messages file (in /var/adm) it's probably screaming to holy hell about not being able to find it...

EDIT: According to swmgr on my Octane, it's in X11 Execution Environment, 6.5.30, based on X11R6.6, pop that open and find X11 Window Server and Font Server , pop that open and /usr/bin/X11/Xsgi is in there. Just a guess but I'll bet bushnrvn doesn't have the necessary Irix installation media for that...

EDIT2: Here's the swmgr getinfo dialog for that installation:

Do you know what version of Irix you've got on the box? Which brings to mind something I've always wondered about, who's the moron responsible for not making `uname` be able to run from the command monitor? Erm, I meant "from the PROM."

That's a good point; Xsgi and 4Dwm/toolchest could be running but at a resolution/refresh rate that the monitor can't handle. Try setting it to something sedate like 1024x768 at 60Hz. I'm at work ATM but I'll check the proper syntax for setting that when I get to my Octane later tonight...

bushnrvn wrote: Hm. setmon doesn't seem to resolve the problem. The version I'm running is 6.5.29f

setmon -x only takes effect upon the next attempted start of Xsgi, so (for example) you'd have to log out and then back in again. setmon -n takes effect immediately, but is only temporary for that session. Once you log out the resolution will go back to what it was previously once you log in again. setmon -x changes the resolution permanently, or, at least until you deliberately change it to something else. If you use setmon -x and don't want to log out and in again, you can do /usr/gfx/stopgfx followed by /usr/gfx/startgfx to achieve the same effect. So give that a try, either setmon -n for immediate effect or setmon -x followed by a restart of the xserver.

Krokodil wrote: I also just won an Octane off fleabay, in good cosmetic condition and reasonable specs.

Reasonable specs are a question of taste, some people consider a 195MHz Octane with 512 meg RAM to be reasonable, which I find to be in extremely poor taste...

guardian452 wrote: I just got rid of the last of my sgi stuff a month ago...

Words fail me! 0_o

Erm, at the risk of being obvious Solaris supports dual xvr-1200, any reason why you prefer BSD ouch over that?

My first Unix bible, from 1985, which was the year I graduated uni and got hired at AT&T (I know, I'm one of those old dudes), I've still got it and it's still a great reference.

That's like rolling a bowling ball from the top of a hill with a smooth paved road that's got three inches of thickened molasses glommed onto it...

In the electrical pulse power world that I inhabit by profession we routinely make use of the term "overvolt." We never use "undervolt" because if the charge voltage stops short of our intended target it's never a disaster the way an overvolt always is...

As someone who's watched Letterman from his very first year I can say that I've always admired his absolute and utter refusal to take anything of a corporate nature seriously. Whenever a corporate entity tried to mess with him he called them out for being exactly what they are, "weasels"....

Krokodil wrote:

armanox wrote: Reasonable is also relative to your goals with it. Although since bumping mine from 384MB RAM to 1280, quite a few things work better. Now if I could only come into a dual 600MHz CPU, I'd be fantastic.

I just bumped my Octane up to a dual 360MHZ. I think finding anything above 400MHZ, probably requires some kind of miracle.

600MHz Octane CPU modules do pop up on Sqee bay occasionally but almost never for a price that isn't outright laughable...

foetz wrote: the octane has one advantage over the tezro: mgras. there's quite a bunch of stuff that doesn't work so well with vpro so unless you have a late onyx model an impact octane is the max you can get

I can testify to the fact that Adobe Premier is absolutely incapable of running on a VPro Octane, and also the Octane Personal Video option has to be jury-rigged considerably to get it to work with VPro, but if you want to run applications like Maya or Pro/E or Shake, having VPro is hugely beneficial...