The collected works of vishnu - Page 10

I dumped a rather large goblet of red wine on my vintage granite keyboard, but with a surfeit of TLC I brought it back to complete operability, with the exception that the shift keys are a bit dodgy. All the other keys work perfectly, but the shift keys just don't want to shift. I'm a bit mystified by that... :shock:

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hamei wrote:
ClassicHasClass wrote:
I'm a sendmail dweeb ...

:shock: Oi. I'm impressed. I used sendmail for one summer, the guy who wrote it had to be from a different universe.


hamei, you didn't know Eric Allman wrote Sendmail? Words fail me! :shock:

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Who doesn't have Viewkit? :P I've even got the free-for-Linux version that they released for about 15 minutes back in the 90's, also got the $250-for-Linux version of BX Pro that they released at the same time. RapidApp is nice but it's C++ only and BX Pro makes it look like a child's toy...

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hamei wrote:
vishnu wrote:
hamei, you didn't know Eric Allman wrote Sendmail?

Of course I knew that ! one of the Allman brothers ... played bass, right ?

Ha ha yeah! Um no, their bassist was Berry Oakley. And I didn't have to look that up... :mrgreen:

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smj wrote:
BX as in Builder Xcessory, as in from ICS in Cambridge, MA? Worked there briefly, really fun place to be back in 1994. Oh, the machines I should have rescued from them a few years later...

Yup, Builder Xcessory from ICS. I was in pretty close contact with Mark Hatch (their prez) for a while back when he used to post to the comp.windows.x.motif NG, and their engineers very kindly assisted me in getting BX running on my Slackware box, which is not one of their supported platforms. In recent years they've gone off the deep end with their stewardship of Motif 2.x, and Arron Hsu (another formerly active poster to comp.windows.x.motif) posted a highly critical and indignant rant about it that everyone should read: http://fixunix.com/motif/350924-openmotif-2-3-vs-2-1-30-argument.html

I have not been able to find any independent verification of his claim about the helicopter crash, but I've not asked Arron about it either, he would doubtless provide verification if asked. Which is to say I think it happened just as he described.

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Diego, do you have a VFO for Dell's UltraSharp U2412M LCD? It's listed in the aggregator...

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My favorite kind of VFO's are the ones that other people make for me... :lol:

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hhoffman wrote: Since I do not have a license for it, it's only running in demo mode.

You can get a license, just not from Autodesk. :mrgreen: Oh I did not just go there. Moderators! Moderators! Why isn't the "report to moderators" function enabled here at nekochan? Are we that trustworthy of a group? :shock:
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Somebody around here must have compiled a VFO for Dell's U2412M, and one of these days I'm going to find him! ;)

And actually, my favorite kind of everything is OP's (other people's)... :lol:

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hazelden wrote: If you are into self-reporting, the report button is to the left of the quote button on every nekochan message.


Ha ha, call me observant... :lol:
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Yeah, he's using some funky custom cable that I haven't had a chance to figure out yet... :shock:

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Yeah as I mentioned at the other thread I'm trying to run my Dell through a dual channel display, and the dual channel display outputs are DVI...

I can never remember what board the MardiGras is (probably because I never had one), is it MXI or SI or SSI? Never had any of those either...

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Jumping Crocodile Cruise on the Adelaide River, NWT Australia: http://www.jumpingcrocodile.com.au/ Anyone been on it?

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Is there an EDID extractor that works for IRIX? Me doubts it. I'll look and report back status... :shock:

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That's the 8086 assembler and loader, the code could possibly be modded to use the equivalent that comes with MIPSPro...

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There is i2c support in the IRIX kernel, but it's completely undocumented would be my guess... :roll:

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The Octane 2 can also do dual CPUs at up to 600MHz. Which is pretty cool. I mean, I've got one. I like it pretty well... :mrgreen:

And as jpstewart said you might want to consider a Sun Blade 2500 instead of an Ultra 45, I bagged a dual 1.6 with 12 gig of RAM and an XVR-1200 for way less than a thousand on ebay not too long ago.

And, in deference to hamei mine are not a collection, I used them both to do some serious sh1t... :lol:

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ClassicHasClass wrote:
This needs to go in a FAQ somewhere. I got the exact same error trying to get firefox3 running, and I had to reinstall not only pango and fontconfig but also gtk2.

It's fear of exactly this angst that has prevented me from even trying to install firefox 4 yet... :lol:

Where do you guys hang out on IRC?

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I guess it's been a while since i've been on IRC, I just tried to fire up smirc (my IRC client of choice since nineteen-ninety-whatever) and it fails on all my currently installed DSO's... :shock:

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"Off topic" does not violate the TOS here at Nekochan, and strong opinions notwithstanding hamei is one of the most helpful people here. Just my opinion. Which likewise does not violate the TOS.

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Definitely! We need people who know as much as Feelies obviously does so I'm happy to offer a heartfelt welcome aboard! :mrgreen:

Not that you need to know as much as Feelies does in order to be welcome here, because, um, everyone has a different skill set, and-- Oh I give up... :cry: :lol:

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SAQ wrote:
...HP-VUE, OpenLook/OpenWindows, SGI Indigo Magic, and Mac were all different takes on what a UI should be back when companies were still figuring that out.

I always admired SGI for declining to jump on the CDE bandwagon. Though I do have to admit that I greatly prefer mxterm over winterm... 8-)

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True, but why anyone would prefer CDE to Indigo Magic defies logical explanation... 8-)

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What video capture hardware did you use to grab it? If I may be so bold as to ask... :mrgreen:

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I remember the buzz when CDE first came out, it was supposed to finally make Unix be competitive with Windows in the business world. Then later so was KDE. Gosh! The memories... :mrgreen:

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If I try to use any part of CDE this pops up:

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Developers! Developers! Developers! Developers!

Or, in the case of Larry Ellison, DBAs! DBAs! DBAs! DBAs! :lol:

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Presumably you just have the program binary not the source code? If you start the application from a terminal window does it crash with any explanation from the system, seg fault or whatever?

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Which raises the question if Flame is just a product-improved version of Flint why did they rename it? It makes no sense...

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He's a "CEO with a difference" alright: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE

I beleive the "X Windows Disaster" chapter of "The Unix Haters Manual" calls that font troglodite bold... :lol:

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This is old enough to possibly have some relevance to IRIX 3: SGI apps frequently asked questions

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Hey if making a big cache was easy everyone would do it! 8-)
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Ah! With that the problem becomes painfully obvious, line 42 of BdrWidth.c is
Code:
unsigned long lwidth = width;   /* must be CARD32 */
so there's a basic incompatibility between unsigned long on the computer the binary was compiled on and the workstation you're trying to run it on. Yet another reason to be added to the "X Windows Disaster" chapter of the "Unix Hater's Manual:" http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/unix-haters/x-windows/disaster.html

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Where'd you get the source code? Their sourceforge page says "this project has no files" :shock:

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canavan wrote:
Apparently the Idea for "The Monkey" has been revived. Even compared to Monkey 2, as seen e.g. here: http://inition.co.uk/sites/default/file ... 5B1%5D.pdf the new USB-connected device called Qumarion looks more polished, almost like EVE compared to WALL-E.

http://www.clip-studio.com/quma/en/

http://blog.makezine.com/2011/07/25/hum ... animation/

Wow! If you've ever spent any time character rigging in Maya you can see this is absolutely the way to the future...

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And that's the same project as this? Link: http://maxwellwp.sourceforge.net/

EDIT: Nevermind, asked and answered; it is. This is some serious abandonware, most of the files haven't been touched in 11 years. Anyway, you can dl a more recent version than the one at two cows here: http://maxwellwp.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/maxwellwp/maxwellwp/maxwellwp/?view=tar

At least it's got autoconf and doesn't require setting arcane environment variables prior to running make. But unfortunately the bozos didn't generate the configure script or the makefiles, so you need to run autoreconf at the top of the source tree yourself. So, I just did that and ran make and oy is it broken! :shock:

Code:
/usr/people/vishnu/src/dls/maxwellwp/shared/util/mx_language.C:42:2: fatal error: opening dependency file /usr/people/vishn/src/dls/maxwellwp/tmp/mx_language.d: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.

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Looking at CREDITS I see that Danny Backx worked on it after it's GPL release, he's one of the huger names in the Motif world. Given how far along this project obviously was I can't imagine why everyone abandoned it.

Let's see, the stuff I've had to do so far, copy the file tmp/mx_language.d to the directory shared/util, create the lib directory, make the script build/movedep executable, then it started to compile, then I had to copy the file tmp/mx_stdio.d to shared/util, then I had to copy the file tmp/mx_string.d to shared/util, so I copied all the files in tmp to shared/util, then it can't create static libs because IRIX doens't have ranlib? I know I should remember this but what does IRIX use to do that instead of ranlib? In my defense my days of full time development on the IRIX platform ended about a decade ago... :?

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Uh, what now? How could you remove function calls if you don't have the source code? Or are you hacking it with a binary editor... :shock:

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Yet that's the line it's crashing on. I didn't dig through the code to see exactly what they expect of CARD32 though...

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You'd think I'd have been able to remember that! :shock:

Anyway if I'd read the thread a little more carefully I'd have seen hamei already had a fix for the shared lib issue, now I've come as far as the "poorly formed" errors...

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