The collected works of vishnu - Page 23

There's a 3ds plugin for Maya 6.5 that was available as a free download back before the Borg assimilated Alias/Wavefront, maybe it still is. I leave it to you and google (or duckduckgo ) to risk assimilation to try to find it.

nongrato wrote:

hamei wrote: If one were going to write integer-heavy apps you'd have to be a lunatic to choose Irix ...

If one were going to write integer-only apps for scientific computing, you'd have to be a lunatic to use them...

Uh, a lunatic to use what ?

Among other things, we ran Groundwars and the NATO Reference Mobility Model on IRIX for many years and it worked great...

What version of Solaris? If it's 11 it's as easy as falling off a log: http://www.unixarena.com/2014/08/installing-oracle-solaris-11-2-using-usb-openstack-image.html

356Outlaw wrote: Hello Vishnu!

Thank you for your answer. Iam scanning the www.

Good luck! It should be available somewhere deep within the bowels of Unimatrix 01

hamei wrote: Oooh ! ooh ! ooh ! Thanks, Muldoon !

Ha ha wait, how about this: It's about time, it's about space, it's about time I punched your face!

On topic again, I think you'll find the automatic color correction in the GIMP to be worth the price of entry, been using it for years to correct the crap color that comes out of multi-megabucks digital SLRs...

foetz wrote: microline are the original netscape widgets...

Speaking of which, if anyone wants the full set of netscape's motif add-on widgets I've got them, and I've even semi-autoconfed the source tree, which is to say the I've gotten the library itself to compile with autoconf but not all the other subdirectories, which are tests and whatnot. If there's an interest I could possibly be moved to autoconf the whole thing...

Wow nice! Whatcha gon' do with it? Um, are you going to give it to me?

This is for sparc presumably? Been thinking about picking up a Sunfire V240 at my local Sun recycler.

foetz wrote:

vishnu wrote:

foetz wrote: microline are the original netscape widgets...

Speaking of which, if anyone wants the full set of netscape's motif add-on widgets I've got them, and I've even semi-autoconfed the source tree, which is to say the I've gotten the library itself to compile with autoconf but not all the other subdirectories, which are tests and whatnot. If there's an interest I could possibly be moved to autoconf the whole thing...

me me me ... me
on a more serious note: me
and no worries about autoconf, i don't care. i.e. no need to spend more time on that at least as far as i'm concerned. would really appreciate the package

Ha ha no seriously! They are the widgets that Ramiro Estrugo wrote to make the X Windows (yes I said Windows!) version of Netscape look just like the MS Windows (and Mac) version(s), the project was named Xfe (for X front end), it's all (of course) based on Motif. If you want to browse the source code it's still on mozilla's repository: http://lxr.mozilla.org/classic/source/cmd/xfe/XfeWidgets/ What I did, or, more to the point, tried to do with autoconf was make it compilable as a stand-alone project, since the Makefiles it comes with only work if you download the entire pre-Geko version of mozilla classic, and then run make from the top level. This code was all abandoned on October 8th 1998 with the switch to Geko and GTK. I just took a look at my autoconfed version and it's a bit of a mess, if you take a look at the above link and decide you really do want it I'll have to do a paper bag release (Linus speak for code that's so bad you have to hide your head under a paper bag so no one will know you're the one who released it).

foetz wrote: hmm these seem different from the ones i have. my stuff was just the XmL pack having just a couple of widgets. anyway comparing the progress widgets my surce looks different.
anyhow i wouldn't mind the paper bag release anyway

If you look up one level in the directory tree you can see Netscape's entire x front end, including two versions of the Microline widgets and a great number of the x files (heh) with original date stamps from summer 1994 when Jamie Zawinski created the cross platform Unix user interface pretty much all by himself.

Link:

http://lxr.mozilla.org/classic/source/cmd/xfe/

I'll paper bag up my autoconfed version of the XfeWidgets and post them after a teensy bit of don't-humiliate-yourself-with-this-crap tidying up...

Wow, deluxe!

hamei wrote:

uunix wrote: ... not as cool as the AT&T UNIX I hade which had an 'interactive desktop' = Some(about 8 per screen) Squares you selected(by cursor and enter) on the desktop.

Identify this, Batman (Alver, you're not allowed)
(image)
Boy was there screaming when this was replaced with winshit 3.1 ....

That is a circa 1985 HP Vectra running their DOS-based Personal Application Manager...

ScutBoy wrote: As far as the AT&T resemblance, I think you are thinking of FACES. It was a way to do "graphical" interfaces on character terminals. Would look really icky if you didn't have the correct termcap entry for the device on which you were running it.

And one of the faces was a mail window, and what we used to do was if you walked by someone's machine and the mail window said "you have mail" we'd put the cursor behind it and type "from Whoopi Goldberg" or "from Molly Ringwald." It was a running gag that, as a bunch of Unix geeks, we all thought was hilariously funny. It was 1985 and there was no way to secure a logged in workstation except to logout if you were going to be away for a potty break or to get your 87th cup of coffee of the day...

There's an installation guide on Sun's^H^H^H^H^H Oracle's website: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19125-01/elite.3d.acc/806-1600-10/806-1600-10.pdf

No need to apologize, if a mirror's not syncing it's a public service to point it out to the membership, I'm sure recondas would agree. He wasn't administering a silent backhand to you while vocally thanking dustytech...

I'm assuming, for no good reason, that the mirrors use rsyc running as cron jobs, but whatever's gone wrong dlclough probably hasn't even noticed it, might not be a bad idea to PM him, anyone know him better than I do? Ping him up!

To quote Alec Mapa's character in Bright Lights, Big City, "Tardy, very tardy..."

Amazing! Is it a Viewkit app? If you stripped out your ID stuff then wouldn't you be happy to let us have the source code? We could graft in our own user IDs, compile, and it'd be good, yes? And to think I thought I was busy during the nekochan downtime writing a program to recreate Julian Braun's "how many time you will get each hand vs. the dealer's upcard" in 100,000 hands of casino 21. Braun was working at IBM at the time, it was the 1960s, and he wrote the code in fortran. Needless to say I haven't written a line of fortran since college so I'm using C++...

foetz wrote:

vishnu wrote: If you stripped out your ID stuff then wouldn't you be happy to let us have the source code? We could graft in our own user IDs, compile, and it'd be good, yes?

hehe maybe one day but for those who have their own ebay dev account i could add an option. however those users are a minority.

Hmmm yes I suppose that's true I don't have one...

foetz wrote:

vishnu wrote: And to think I thought I was busy during the nekochan downtime writing a program to recreate Julian Braun's "how many time you will get each hand vs. the dealer's upcard" in 100,000 hands of casino 21. Braun was working at IBM at the time, it was the 1960s, and he wrote the code in fortran. Needless to say I haven't written a line of fortran since college so I'm using C++...

ha nice, a hobby thing or do you work for one of these poker sites?
anyway sort of a pity to replace fortran with c++ for a calculation proggy

It's just for fun, I was a semi-pro 21 player back in the 90s. As far as I've been able to determine nobody's got Julian Braun's original fortran code. For this one, what he did was innumerable 100,000 hand sims and then averaged them. I'm seeing pretty wide deviation on either side of the numbers he's published in his table. It's table B-21 in chapter 5 of Lawrence Revere's book "Playing Blackjack as a Business," a fine educational tome...

foetz wrote:

vishnu wrote: As far as I've been able to determine nobody's got Julian Braun's original fortran code

yeah i just had a look myself and all i found was a newsgroup post from one guy who said there's no digital copy. anyhow fortran is very good when it comes to backward compatibility so assuming it was something like fortran II or IV just a couple of changes might be enough to make it work with more recent compilers. after all stuff like that is exactly what fortran is for

does it show that i'm a fortran fan?

Well, after fifty years of almost continuous development you gotta figure they're going to have something that's pretty useful by now. Wish I could say as much about X Windows, the X Toolkit and Motif...

Is this built with the latest gcc from current? Erm, I meant g++? Since the liberal use of variadic macros in the dillo code have the same effect on MIPSPro as a land mine...

You mean that worked out of the box? You didn't have to comile your own video format file? Wonders...

Once it syncs it keeps up? No lag?

digel wrote:

vishnu wrote: Is this built with the latest gcc from current? Erm, I meant g++?

Yes it's gcc/g++

And that's the version that has the recently made MIPS code generation improvements yes? Might have to give that a try...

Not to tip my ignorance too much but what the hell are those things? Their manufacturers website doesn't ID them other than to say they're EOL...

So I mentioned in another thread that I used nekochan's prodigious downtime to get started on something I've wanted to do since forever, which is to recreate the pioneering blackjack simulations that were done by Julian Braun at IBM in the 1960s and published in Lawrence Revere's classic 1969 book "Playing Blackjack as a Business." Braun did his sims in fortran and later wrote several papers and a book or two about it, but he died rather suddenly in 2000 and his source code is apparently lost for all time.

Anyway I thought I'd do the simplest simulation first, which is how many times a player will get each dealt hand versus the dealer's up card in 100,000 hands. I wanted to watch the numbers click up in real time so I called XtSetValues each time a hand was dealt, and to make sure each widget updated on the screen immediately I called XFlush after every deal. It didn't work. if you want to make X crawl, if you want to make X puke and die just call XtSetValues a hundred thousand times. Actually, it's not the calls themselves, they go into the server queue and complete pretty fast, it's the server trying to update the widgets that kills it. On my 3.2 GHz Linux box, it takes several minutes for the server to work it's way through the queue. No wonder the Unix Hater's Manual has a chapter titled The X Windows Disaster. So yeah, this isn't going to work and I've got to try something else. But if you'd like to witness the hilarity, source code is attached. I haven't tried this on IRIX yet but since I haven't done anything with X resources it uses the motif defaults which on IRIX always look like da sheet. Oh, and I haven't coded the line for the totals on the bottom either. So what you see is the player's two card totals down the left side versus the dealer's upcard at the top, and how many times you will get each hand in 100,000 deals. Braun ran the simulation innumerable times and then averaged them, which is what I'll do too eventually. So if you've read all the way to the end of this ridiculously long post, thanks! Post back if you actually try this. Compilation instructions are at the top of the file...

Speaking of Leinenkugel's their Winter Sampler is full of awesome outstandingness...

Outstanding, thanks! It's kinda laughable tho compared with what I wanted it to do...

josehill wrote: Next in the series: http://therealmccrea.com/2015/01/05/to- ... -software/

...with a bonus link to a copy of the old Silicon Surf site. Cool.

Holy wow how'd you find that? I thought it would be lost to eternity since reality.sgiweb.org went down...

jirka wrote: I tried to compile it with the g++ on my O2 and it works.

Thanks for taking it for a test drive!

jirka wrote: It's only a little too big for my 1600x1024 screen..

Your motif is defaulting to a much bigger font than mine. It's really my fault for not providing an app-defaults file or (worse) hard coding a middle of the road font to try to accommodate all screen sizes.

jirka wrote: It needed few minutes (5 or so) for run.

Actually the program is done in only a few seconds, when the run button reactivates the simulation is over, the remaining time is all the X server going through the 100,000 queued screen updates. Really, five minutes to clear a queue only a hundred thousand long? X; the first fully modular software disaster...

jirka wrote: Sorry for using the FVWM on the IRIX

Heresy heresy!

josehill wrote: It's been a rough month or so for the SGI crowd. Looks like http://www.futuretech.blinkenlights.nl is down at the moment.

The mirror site is still up at http://www.sgidepot.co.uk/o2cpumod.html

Wow!

There's even a 10 year long thread about this mod that I somehow never noticed:
http://forums.nekochan.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1071

foetz wrote: just tried it on osx and it's working fine. irix coming up ...

Top notch! How 'bout a Fresca?

foetz wrote: here's a small update. slight changes here and there such as making it fit at 1280x1024 and a few tweaks. see notes in the source file's head for details. build for 6.2 included.

Wow, thanks! Did you run a code prettifier on it? Because if you did it must be one that likes long lines because the line in reset() that rezeros all the labels now goes out to column 4,648...

Also you prefer to include stdlib.h instead of cstdio? Although I suppose on IRIX 6.2 that makes sense. Should probably ifdef that and the STL3 includes with _sgi and if it's not defined include the regular ones. And the <iostream> stuff was just in there for debugging from the console, if we're not using it the setValues() count variable is unecessary. And since X obviously won't let us watch all the numbers fly up individually I should remove all the calls to XtSetValues inside the simulation for() loop, that would take care of the ridiculous 5 minute lag...

EDIT: Still need to include <iostream> for the call to time() in the random number seed...

Done! The whole thing now runs in a fraction of a second. I ifdefed the 6.2 parts so it should compile on both IRIX 6.2 and Linux, also, I cast the fallback resources to (char *) to prevent the ubiquitous g++ warning about deprecated conversions, and you changed my use of XtOpenApplication() to XtVaAppInitialize() which is deprectated in X11 7-point whatever, but I left it. New version attached!

EDIT: Just noticed a bug in setValues(), the data array member still has ++ so all the simulated values will be off by one. I'll fix it in the next version if there is one.

Otherwise just delete line 1648 (which says data[a]++; )

foetz wrote: oh sorry, i didn't know. if there're any benefits please do change it again by all means. sorry for the extra hassle

Not a problem, not sure why they deprecated it because they've said they can never remove it without breaking 87 million programs that are already out there...

Awesome, thanks!

Trying to compile it on my Sun at work but the bastards in IT seem to have removed the X11 and Motif includes, WTF...

EDIT: I wonder if there's another defined symbol in IRIX 6.2 that we can use other than __sgi, that's not defined in IRIX 6.5 so the existing ifdef would work automagically, without users having to see your note and edit the source code for use in IRIX 6.5? Not that I expect anyone other than the two of us to actually show enough interest to do that...

Speaking of Yuengling & Son the second oldest (and still family owned) brewing company in America is the August Schell Brewing Company right here in Minnesota, founded in 1860 they dodged all the same economic destruction bullets as Leinie and they also make some outstandingly good stuff...

I would say if that's not photorealistic it's as darn close as you can get and still not be...

kubatyszko wrote: ...with adapter board, or stuck somewhere else and wired to the CPU module's 8-pin location.

Deadbugged; glue the IC to the board upside down with 30 gage wires soldered to the pins and run them down to the CPU module's pin pads. Trick I learned in 'Nam... (Just kidding, everyone deadbugs that way, it's da COOLest!)

We're somebody now! We're somebody now! (Line shamelessly stolen from Steve Martin in the fine educational film "The Jerk").

Did you ever get the gfx error on bootup cleared? I bought a tezro in November as well, sans disk, install of 6.5.30 on a new disk won't boot it, gets to the Tezro splash screen okay and then hangs. It was a flame system so there's too much specialty hardware in it I think, I need to dig out the manual and checkconfig it off or tear the hardware out completely and introduce it back in one at a time and deal with it. Just need to find the time. Mine's a quad 700 what's yours?