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Wrote on the subject of Period Comparison of Onyx(1) IR and Commodity Graphics at May 28, 2013, 10:50 p.m...

guardian452 wrote:

Still not sure the value of running a benchmark designed to show off one 18 year old system on a 3 year old laptop is a super valuable use of time

Heresy!

I revived this thread mainly because I feel like the Nekochan "Computer Graphics" forum shouldn't sit unused for weeks at a time, I mean, that's what these oddly shaped and strangely colored beasts were intended for back in the day...

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Wrote on the subject of Building the New Ted word processor on IRIX. at May 29, 2013, 12:04 a.m...

hamei wrote: If a few people try it and like it maybe we can get together a kickstarter project to make a nekodist

Har!

So I dl'ed it and and then:

vishnu@starhunter:~$ mkdir saferoom
vishnu@starhunter:~$ mv teddly.gz saferoom
vishnu@starhunter:~$ cd saferoom
vishnu@starhunter:~/saferoom$ gunzip teddly.gz
vishnu@starhunter:~/saferoom$ ls
teddly
vishnu@starhunter:~/saferoom$ file teddly
teddly: ELF 32-bit MSB executable, MIPS, N32 MIPS-IV version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
vishnu@starhunter:~/saferoom$ mv teddly /usr/nekoware/bin

Problem solved! :mrgreen:

EDIT: Oops I forgot a step:

vishnu@starhunter:~/saferoom$ ln -s /usr/nekoware/bin/teddly /usr/nekoware/bin/ted

BTW thanks for figuring all this out for us Jimmer! :mrgreen:

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Wrote on the subject of Period Comparison of Onyx(1) IR and Commodity Graphics at May 29, 2013, 9:08 a.m...

guardian452 wrote:

Your GL_Renderer string is generic, is it using your geforce ?

The X servers on Macs don't have hardware acceleration? :shock:

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Wrote on the subject of Old Alias and Wavefront apps screenshots... at May 29, 2013, 2:44 p.m...

Wow!

I had Autocad 12 for DOS back around that time, I didn't even know this existed...

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Wrote on the subject of Old Alias and Wavefront apps screenshots... at May 30, 2013, 8:37 a.m...

jan-jaap wrote:

Hey, AutoCAD 12 (and 13) even existed for IRIX

I thought Autocad was a pain in the ass until we switched to Pro/E, then I found out what a pain in the ass really is...

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Wrote on the subject of Old Alias and Wavefront apps screenshots... at May 30, 2013, 4:35 p.m...

I've got Dassault Catia 5 (circa 1998) for IRIX on CD, I haven't tried installing it because I'm pretty sure there's no way in hell I'll ever be able to get it licensed. :cry:

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Wrote on the subject of call for network professionals ! dns :( at May 30, 2013, 5:13 p.m...

"cisco" routes your subnet to "gateway" and runs a caching-only nameserver? What nameservers does cisco query when you ask it something that's not in its cache?

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Wrote on the subject of Show Off Your Home Office Setup & SGI Collection... at May 30, 2013, 5:38 p.m...

A "give my creation life" experiment? :shock:

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Wrote on the subject of call for network professionals ! dns :( at May 30, 2013, 10:15 p.m...

UDP is reputed to be more error prone because it's "fire and forget" whereas TCP is "self healing," so there might be something to that. Presumably the google nameserver that you're querying is in the PRC, and thus might have been tinkered with by the Central Committee? I thought google bailed from the PRC after they got all that bad publicity for caving to the CC's demand for censoring. What version of BIND are you using? I run a caching-only nameserver on my firewall with bind-9.9.1_P3 which queries OpenDNS upstream and it works perfectly, but then I'm in the heart of the good 'ol USA...

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Wrote on the subject of Old Alias and Wavefront apps screenshots... at May 31, 2013, 10:17 a.m...

The easiest CAD I've ever used is TurboCAD, but it's Windows and Mac only. Apparently it doesn't work with Wine on Linux...

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Wrote on the subject of freeware music software at June 1, 2013, 2:43 p.m...

SAQ wrote:

vishnu wrote:

robespierre wrote:

there are binaries on the net for Csound, tiMIDity, Rosegarden, Cecilia, CAST, cmix, PD... maybe some of them are dead links now.

IRIX binaries? Seriously? :shock:

Yep, older ones but still good. Rosegarden started on IRIX.

Looks like they went to the dark side (qt and kde) a long time ago...

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Wrote on the subject of Old Alias and Wavefront apps screenshots... at June 1, 2013, 5:13 p.m...

foetz wrote:

poweranimator's renderer for example is still better than maya's might ever be so as usual it's up to the artist and not so much depending on the software.

It's not better than Mental Ray though, surely? Since Maya started shipping with Mental Ray I don't think they've bothered with the Maya renderer very much...

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Wrote on the subject of Old Alias and Wavefront apps screenshots... at June 2, 2013, 1:40 p.m...

hamei wrote:

Still, it's vintage and that granite ball thingy floating in midair screams SGI

hamei, where do you come up with these!

foetz wrote:

yeah mental ray is better. i meant maya's default renderer. however mental ray is so slow so it's not a real option

That's what render farms are for... :mrgreen:

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Wrote on the subject of Installation footprint at June 3, 2013, 9:24 a.m...

Adobe is clearly out of control, how is it comprehensible that Reader is a 40+ megabyte download? :shock:

On my Octane Maya 6.5 Unlimited plus the shader library comes in at just under 500MB of disk space...

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Wrote on the subject of Building the New Ted word processor on IRIX. at June 3, 2013, 9:43 a.m...

And you're linked against Motif-2.1 yes? I only ask because IRIX still ships with Motif-1.2 for backward compatibility...

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Wrote on the subject of Drag Queens at June 3, 2013, 10:08 a.m...

Rent Victor Victoria and watch it repeatedly until the clouds lift... :lol:

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Wrote on the subject of freeware music software at June 3, 2013, 6:40 p.m...

SAQ wrote:

That said, my only big problem with Rosegarden (or many other Linux sound apps) is that they like to use these audio "management" layers that are about as durable as a balsawood house in Florida. IRIX DM may be proprietary, but it seems to work pretty reliably.

Admittedly the switchover from OSS to Alsa was painful, it took me days to get the AC97 hardware on my Tyan S2668 to start working again, and it still goes completely wonky from time to time. In fact, something I've been meaning to look into for a while is if there's a command line util that can get the hardware to reset itself to it's basic initialized state...

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Wrote on the subject of Old Alias and Wavefront apps screenshots... at June 3, 2013, 6:46 p.m...

foetz wrote:

hehe with other renderers those are even faster. mental ray is slow in comparison, no matter where you run it.

Ah, but if you want the results you've got to be willing to put in the clock cycles... :lol:

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Wrote on the subject of Old Alias and Wavefront apps screenshots... at June 3, 2013, 10:07 p.m...

smj wrote:

Er, right. I can't help but think of the time somebody suggested that they preferred to walk instead of flying around Second Life because they "enjoyed the exercise." To which a fellow resident replied, "They're avatars. They don't need a sodding fitness regime!"

I wonder what Second Life would be like if it rendered in Mental Ray. Probably way more scenic and unusably slow... :shock:

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Wrote on the subject of Old Alias and Wavefront apps screenshots... at June 4, 2013, 10:49 p.m...

It is with great deliberation that I never research it because I'm afraid if I learn what I'm missing out on by sticking with Maya 6.5 on IRIX I'll, well, basically quit using Maya 6.5 on IRIX. And I don't want to do that. So, here I am with my head in the sand..

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Wrote on the subject of Building the New Ted word processor on IRIX. at June 5, 2013, 10:19 p.m...

Wow he's even got a Slackware binary for the latest Ted, I'm impressed! :shock:

No, astonished... :lol:

hamei, you know how to flash the active (i.e. selected) widget(s) in editres, right? In the tree pulldown, the last line in the menu, "flash active widgets." Thus it's easy to see if the widget you've selected in the tree is actually the widget you think it is in the application. Useful feature, that. Volker Gering, at Siemens, a founding member of the X Consortium, was working on edires 2.0, but I don't think he got very far. Like so much else in the world of X, it only made it half the way there...

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Wrote on the subject of Old Alias and Wavefront apps screenshots... at June 5, 2013, 11:15 p.m...

Probably the reason I don't notice the slowness of Mental Ray is because it renders faster than I model. And the nice thing about my Octane's two CPUs is that batch renders don't slow the modeling window down at all...

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Wrote on the subject of Old Alias and Wavefront apps screenshots... at June 7, 2013, 12:32 p.m...

Rendering is where having multiple CPU's really makes a difference, in Maya make sure "Auto Render Threads" is selected and the number is set to however many CPUs (or cores) are available...

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Wrote on the subject of Building the New Ted word processor on IRIX. at June 7, 2013, 12:35 p.m...

hamei wrote:

vishnu wrote:

hamei, you know how to flash the active (i.e. selected) widget(s) in editres, right?

Yes, that's how I found the main drawing window and the four borders. The part I have trouble with is connecting the structures to the source code. If I could choose an item then flash the creating text in the source it would be great

That's where having a class-aware IDE is really an asset. Otherwise you have to do a recursive grep for the widget's name. I'm super busy through at least Monday but I'll have a look at it as soon as I can squeeze two spare seconds together...

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Wrote on the subject of Building the New Ted word processor on IRIX. at June 8, 2013, 2:35 p.m...

The yutznicks at ICS have "obsoleted" the XmPanedWindow widget in Motif 2.3... :evil:

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Wrote on the subject of Installation footprint at June 9, 2013, 12:30 p.m...

jan-jaap wrote:

...and I don't think DVI allows more than 8bits so you're stuck with analogue outputs.

So wait, does that mean using a DCD on my V12 truncates the bits per component from 12 to 8?! :shock:

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Wrote on the subject of Newsfront V12 Scans at June 20, 2013, 1:38 p.m...

From around 1995, it looks like. Very nice... :mrgreen:

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Wrote on the subject of IBMers... at June 21, 2013, 10:12 p.m...

Q: How many IBM types does it take to change a light bulb?
A: 100. Ten to do it, and 90 to write document number GC7500439-0001,
Multitasking Incandescent Source System Facility, of which 10% of
the pages state only "This page intentionally left blank", and 20%
of the definitions are of the form "A ...... consists of sequences
of non-blank characters separated by blanks"

The old jokes are the best! :mrgreen:

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Wrote on the subject of Jurassic Park cgi ... interesting :) at June 24, 2013, 9:48 p.m...

I knew that bit about the car imploding in the Matrix Reloaded but only because it's on the special features DVD. Did not know about the guys in rubber suits in the Jurassic Park series. :shock:

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Wrote on the subject of arfing gtk2 at July 6, 2013, 1 p.m...

As an unhelpful aside from the peanut gallery, I hasten to point out that gtk has been an unadulterated horrorshow since the day of its inception. Thank you, drive through...

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Wrote on the subject of arfing gtk2 at July 6, 2013, 3:53 p.m...

From the GTK+ faq:

Code:

GTK+ is a large package that is dependent on a number of other tools and libraries. It is recommended that you use precompiled binary packages for your system if possible.

hamei will probably be along shortly but until then, I'll say it for him: Fuck you guys! :evil:

Also from the faq:

Code:

you will also need to have installed the tools and libraries that GTK+ depends upon. These are listed below in the order in which they need to be installed (edited for brevity):

pkg-config

GNU make

JPEG, PNG and TIFF image libraries

FreeType

fontconfig

GNU libiconv library (if your system doesn't have iconv())

GNU gettext (if your system doesn't have gettext())

GLib

Pango

ATK

GTK+

Circular dependency in the list left unedited... :lol:

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Wrote on the subject of arfing gtk2 at July 7, 2013, 10:49 a.m...

Yes but autoconf is only as good as the configure.in that the software's build guys write. If you've got a Really Great Toolkit but can't be bothered to provide a build environment that works, and you say things like (I'm paraphrasing) "aw fuck it let's let the distribution packagers figure out how to compile it," then (at the risk of repeating myself) I say fuck you guys! :evil:

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Wrote on the subject of arfing gtk2 at July 7, 2013, 9:48 p.m...

Hey wait a minute, are you sure firefox links against the gtk shared lib on your fuel? Because I'm pretty sure it doesn't... :shock:

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Wrote on the subject of arfing gtk2 at July 8, 2013, 9:53 a.m...

hamei wrote:

vishnu wrote:

Hey wait a minute, are you sure firefox links against the gtk shared lib on your fuel? Because I'm pretty sure it doesn't... :shock:

We are speaking of firefox here, the most dangerous and unpredictable program known to man. Of course I'm not certain

Code:

urchin 26# ldd firefox-bin

libpthread.so  =>        /usr/lib32/libpthread.so

libsmime3.so  =>         /usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19/libsmime3.so

libssl3.so  =>   /usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19/libssl3.so

libnss3.so  =>   /usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19/libnss3.so

libnssutil3.so  =>       /usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19/libnssutil3.so

libsoftokn3.so  =>       /usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19/libsoftokn3.so

libcairo.so.3  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19/libcairo.so.3

libfreetype.so.7  =>     /usr/nekoware/lib/libfreetype.so.7

libfontconfig.so.2  =>   /usr/nekoware/lib/libfontconfig.so.2

libXrender.so.1  =>      /usr/nekoware/lib/libXrender.so.1

libX11.so.1  =>  /usr/lib32/libX11.so.1

libXt.so  =>     /usr/lib32/libXt.so

libgthread-2.0.so.1  =>  /usr/nekoware/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.1

libXft.so.2  =>  /usr/nekoware/lib/libXft.so.2

libpangocairo-1.0.so.1  =>       /usr/nekoware/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.1

libpangoft2-1.0.so.1  =>         /usr/nekoware/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.1

libpango-1.0.so.1  =>    /usr/nekoware/lib/libpango-1.0.so.1

libgobject-2.0.so.1  =>  /usr/nekoware/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.1

libgmodule-2.0.so.1  =>  /usr/nekoware/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.1

libglib-2.0.so.1  =>     /usr/nekoware/lib/libglib-2.0.so.1

libintl.so.9  =>         /usr/nekoware/lib/libintl.so.9

libsqlite3.so.1  =>      /usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19/libsqlite3.so.1

libfastm.so  =>  /usr/lib32/libfastm.so

libmozjs.so  =>  /usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19/libmozjs.so

libxpcom.so  =>  /usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19/libxpcom.so

libxpcom_core.so  =>     /usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19/libxpcom_core.so

libplds4.so  =>  /usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19/libplds4.so

libplc4.so  =>   /usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19/libplc4.so

libnspr4.so  =>  /usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19/libnspr4.so

libdl.so  =>     /usr/lib32/libdl.so

libgtk-x11-2.0.so.1  =>  /usr/nekoware/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.1

libatk-1.0.so.1  =>      /usr/nekoware/lib/libatk-1.0.so.1

libgdk-x11-2.0.so.1  =>  /usr/nekoware/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.1

libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.1  =>       /usr/nekoware/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.1

libm.so  =>      /usr/lib32/libm.so

libsocket.so  =>         /usr/lib32/libsocket.so

libc.so.1  =>    /usr/lib32/libc.so.1

libsqlite3.so  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19/libsqlite3.so

libpixman-1.so.1  =>     /usr/nekoware/lib/libpixman-1.so.1

libglitz.so.2  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/libglitz.so.2

libpng12.so.0  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/libpng12.so.0

libz.so  =>      /usr/nekoware/lib/libz.so

libbz2.so.1.0  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/libbz2.so.1.0

libiconv.so.3  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/libiconv.so.3

libexpat.so.2  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/libexpat.so.2

libgen.so  =>    /usr/lib32/libgen.so   delay-load

libXi.so  =>     /usr/lib32/libXi.so

libXext.so  =>   /usr/lib32/libXext.so

libpng.so.3  =>  /usr/nekoware/lib/libpng.so.3

But there are a few in there that look suspiciously like gtk2 conspirators ... No idea if this will really fix my crashes but so far so good. The message screens are even goofier than before and the tab-closing x'es look like hell but I can live with that.

Sorry my bad! I'm used to the mozilla-dot-org binaries which have 99 percent of those compiled in statically... :oops:

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Wrote on the subject of my observatory at July 8, 2013, 12:08 p.m...

Holy expenditure that's amazing... :shock:

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Wrote on the subject of my observatory at July 8, 2013, 4:02 p.m...

That would be awesome! My originally declared major was astrophysics, I later came to my senses and changed it to "just" physics but naturally I'm still all about the night sky... 8-)

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Wrote on the subject of arfing gtk2 at July 9, 2013, 8:17 a.m...

Some compilers will let you skip the prototype as long as the compiler sees the function definition before any code that actually calls the function. But the function definition should specify the return type (just as the prototype would) so I'm not sure what the story is. Paste in the function definition and we'll have a look!

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Wrote on the subject of Fair price for a V8 pro (octane/octane2) and performance? at July 9, 2013, 10:32 a.m...

There's one on Ebay right now for $79, which I think is about $40 too much but it's not how much it costs it's what it's worth to ya.

Try posting in the "Hardware wanted" forum, there's got to be a compendium of nekochaners who'd be willing to part with a V8 for less-than-backbreaking price and shipping.

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Wrote on the subject of Can't network installation IRIX to SGI Octane from FreeBSD at July 9, 2013, 9:18 p.m...

Just my opinion, but I don't think any Octane should be without an external SCSI cdrom, but those are some weird error messages you're getting. hamei is right though, you're not sunk yet give Ian's method a try...

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vishnu
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Wrote on the subject of What we* do for a living... at July 9, 2013, 10:02 p.m...

From the Dusting Off Really Old But Interesting Threads Department I'll add my infodata: My real name is Chris, my college degree is in physics, my current employment is "staff scientist" at the world's third largest defense contractor (based on applicable 2011 revenues), I am co-holder of five patents, all work related and utterly useless except as "prior art" refutation of possible future patents, and I have a whole shitload of computers the crown jewel of which is my maxed out Octane2...

There, I tried to keep it short! :lol:

Anyone? Anyone? Buhler? Buhler?

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