The collected works of vishnu - Page 14

I'll have my inside guys at the NSA unredact that for ya... :lol:

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If memory serves I consigned my last FAT filesystem to the bit bucket sometime around 1998... :twisted:

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Does your version have "up arrow" (to repeat the last command) and backspace working correctly? Because I've been trying to figure that our for years, on mine up arrow just prints random characters and backspace goes forward unless I've got the control key down... :(

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2x600MHz R14000, V12, 8 gig RAM, Dual Channel Display, DMediaPro 2, VBOB with a DMediaPro 5, skins are near mint. I guess you could say it's not really maxed out since it doesn't have a dual-V12. Anyone got one for sale, cheap? :lol:

hinv -mv:

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Location: /hw/node
PM20600MHZ Board: barcode MRR035     part 030-1778-001 rev  C
Location: /hw/node/xtalk/15
IP30 Board: barcode KKP854     part 030-1467-001 rev  D
Location: /hw/node/xtalk/15/pci/2
FP1 Board: barcode LHV006     part 030-0891-003 rev  G
PWR.SPPLY.ER Board: barcode AAE0260361 part 060-0035-002 rev  A
Location: /hw/node/xtalk/11
ODY128VERSIONB Board: barcode MVT806     part 030-1611-002 rev  A
Location: /hw/node/xtalk/10
XT-DIGVID Board: barcode MHS469     part 030-1653-002 rev  H
2 600 MHZ IP30 Processors
Heart ASIC: Revision F
CPU: MIPS R14000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.4
FPU: MIPS R14010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 0.0
Main memory size: 8192 Mbytes
Xbow ASIC: Revision 1.4
Instruction cache size: 32 Kbytes
Data cache size: 32 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 2 Mbytes
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version QL1040B (rev. 2), single ended
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 1)
Integral SCSI controller 1: Version QL1040B (rev. 2), single ended
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty1
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty2
IOC3 parallel port: plp1
Graphics board: V12
Integral Fast Ethernet: ef0, version 1, pci 2
Iris Audio Processor: version RAD revision 12.0, number 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0003) PCI slot 2
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1020) PCI slot 0
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1020) PCI slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0005) PCI slot 3
XT-DIGVID Multi-standard Digital Video: controller 1, unit 1, version 0x0
Dual Channel Display


gfxinfo -vv:

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Graphics board 0 is "ODYSSEY" graphics.
Managed (":0.0") 3200x1200
BUZZ version B.1
PB&J version 1
128MB memory
Banks: 4, CAS latency: 3
DM5 attached to Dual Channel 1
Monitor 0 type: Unknown
Dual Channel Display option
Monitor 1 type: Unknown         Monitor 2 type: Unknown
Input Sync: Voltage - Video Level; Source - Internal; Genlocked - False
Channel 0:
Origin = (0,0)
Video Output: 1600 pixels, 1200 lines, 60.00Hz (2@1600x1200_60_ds)
Video Format Flags:  (none)
Sync Disabled
Using Gamma Map 0
Monitor Type:  unknown
Gain (all color components) - 0.000000 ; range [1,10]
Channel 1:
Origin = (1600,0)
Video Output: 1600 pixels, 1200 lines, 60.00Hz (2@1600x1200_60_ds)
Video Format Flags:  (none)
Sync Disabled
Using Gamma Map 0
Monitor Type:  unknown
Gain (all color components) - 0.000000 ; range [1,10]


side/rear view and front view:

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Well, there's a quote that could be from Mark Hughes, around the time of Irix 5.0: "Indy: an Indigo without the 'go'"... (ducks) :lol:

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recondas wrote:
Congrats - that's a very nice Octane2! For what it's worth, if you put issues of relative rarity aside I tend to think of Octane2's with video hardware/the DM2 as a better example of maxed out than one with a dual V12.

vishnu wrote:
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XT-DIGVID Multi-standard Digital Video: controller 1, unit 1, version 0x0

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Graphics board 0 is "ODYSSEY" graphics. Managed (":0.0") 3200x1200

DM5 attached to Dual Channel 1

Dual Channel Display option

Channel 0: Video Output: 1600 pixels, 1200 lines, 60.00Hz (2@1600x1200_60_ds)

Channel 1: Video Output: 1600 pixels, 1200 lines, 60.00Hz (2@1600x1200_60_ds)


Looks like you got the issues you experienced with your DCD and VBoB sorted out. Any potential words of wisdom or closure for those threads (for others who might find themselves in similar situations)?

Ha ha I wish but no I did not! Something I don't get is why does it say Monitor 1 type: Unknown Monitor 2 type: Unknown when, in fact, the DCD is not hooked up to monitors it is hooked up the the DM5? I guess the DM5 people weren't talking to the gfxinfo people. And, if you look carefully there's another monitor unknown where the DM5 is supposed to be transferring all the information coming from the two DCD outputs to a single monitor, and there it also says Monitor Type: unknown - That's my Dell UltraSharp U2412M 24" monitor. What's weird is that at times it actually will say Monitor Type: Dell, but it's never actually output anything to the screen, it's always been blank. Haven't given up yet though still hoping for the silver bullet solution... :P

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hamei wrote:
I have seen some in-cable edid cheaters. You could probably program one to return "Silicon Graphics DM5" if you liked :D

Yeah I'm starting to think the only way I"m ever going to get this to work is to program it myself, one pixel at a time... :lol:

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- The God Particle, Leon Letterman
- The Inflationary Universe, Alan Guth
- The Hunting of the Quark, Michael Riordan
- The Demon Haunted World, Carl Sagan
- All The Words, The Complete Monty Python's Flying Circus

:P

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And for future reference, you do not have to disconnect the monitor that's attached to the V12's 13W3 output when you switch to a "2@" DCD mode, even though the manual says you should. SGI was just trying to avoid lame support questions from people who were complaining that their 13W3 monitor was "all flickery" when the DCD was active. It doesn't hurt anything to leave it hooked up, I've had mine like that for over a year, and leaving it connected makes switching back and forth between DCD and 13W3 mode a lot less work since you don't have to disconnect and reconnect the 13W3 every time. And yes, when the DCD mode is active the monitor on the 13W3 is indeed "all flickery" because it doesn't understand, as the DCD does, that the V12 is cycling between the left monitor and right monitor very rapidly. The DCD distributes those signals properly the 13W3 just displays them both, hence the flicker.

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Well, I have looked into the moninfo issue but in my case I can change back and forth between regular and 2@ modes at will, it's just that when I'm in 2@ mode I have to do everything through ssh because all this megabuck DCD/DM2/DM5 hardware refuses to talk to my Dell! :lol:

recondas wrote:
Doesn't seem like it'd be real eye-friendly, but that seems to be exactly what SGI/Discreet intended for the V12/DCD/VBoB/DM5.
I'm convinced that cabling roadmap is a typo where it shows the 13W3 still being attached and usable. The V12 just doesn't have the smarts to get the 13W3 to straighten up and fly right when there's a DCD piggybacking on it and smacking it from left-to-right monitor outputs at a high rate of speed... :cry:

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So basically, you're saying that this image is the typo?

Image

Because the high definition video out of the VBOB is one of the BNC cables, I just assumed that hooking up the monitor as shown there would give me my ordinary IRIX desktop... :shock:

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recondas wrote:
I won't go as far as to say the TechPubs connection diagram can't be made to work...... but I think you'd have to do some custom coding to get there.

I call false advertising on SGI! :shock:

And for the record, using my Octane from my Linux box through ssh (or telnet) is woefully inadequate, since my Linux xserver lacks the XSGI extension and thus can't open any IRIX/Indigo Magic apps. So here's an off topic question in my own thread, does anyone know where the XSGI xserver extension source code is? Because then I could compile it into my Linux xserver, and I'd be winning, and things would suck less and that would be good. 8-)

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hamei wrote:
You could do it the other way ... X into your Linux computer from the Octane :D

Yes but the problem is that I have no IRIX monitor when I'm using the 2@ mode with my multi-megabucks DMediaPro hardware! :(

smj wrote:
Don't forget to re-enable the network functionality of the X server while you're in there. Seems to be removed/disabled from most Linux distros I run across. (Or I failed the "You must be at least this tall to go on this ride" test...)

Um, what's the magic incantation for doing that now? :shock: Doubtless yet another of the many reasons why Unix Must Die. :lol:

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Well, just to get started the fact that the kernel file "unix" isn't in the root directory of the filesystem means that somehow the installation skipped that step, or probably many steps. Much as I hate to say it that's a clear-cut case calling for an installation do-over... :(

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Ah, well I'm actually using Slackware so of course the networking bits in the xserver are fine... :mrgreen:

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Yah but he did ls from the root of the filesystem and "unix" wasn't there. In fact, almost nothing was there, all it showed was sgilabel ide and sash, I don't know that much about sash, is that a virtual filesystem and "unix" isn't there because the real filesystem hasn't been mounted yet? Because if that's the case then the fact that "unix" isn't there is likely not the problem...

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Which lends yet more credence to the oft-repeated speculation that the SGI installer was made obtuse by design in the hopes that it would increase the revenue stream coming from field service... :(

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Holy flurking smit! :shock:

Did she happen to say how or why her brother came by all these goodies-slash-heirlooms?

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Yah I've seen it, it's good! John Agar is legendary for the slight amount of work he did in this genre (mostly his 57 year Hollywood career was in straight/serious roles) but if you like him in this you also want to see "Zontar: The Thing from Venus," "Curse of the Swamp Creature," and "Women of the Prehistoric Planet." Happy viewing! :lol:

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This movie is just a lobbying effort by the robotics industry to convince DoD that it needs to add another half billion to its yearly budget to produce giant fisticuff robots... 8-)

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hamei wrote:
SAQ wrote:
Ever tried to install SunOS 3.x or other older systems? None are "intuitive".

How about Solaris 10 and the way it "helpfully" partitions your disk for you ? Aaaaaah !! (runs screaming from the room)

There's pain involved! :lol:

Slackware does kind of the same thing, the installer asks if and where you want to mount your disk's partitions, and you have to deliberately pick "do not format this partition," i.e. formatting all the partitions you choose to mount at boot is the default...

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Yes I have tried getting the DM5 to kick in using dmconf, never with any success though, it always says "Error reading VPro format" despite the fact that I always use one of the formats listed in /usr/gfx/ucode/STINGRAY/cmb, which, at least as far as I can tell, are the ones you're supposed to use.

Originally I thought the DM5 must be wired up with the smarts to rebuild the 2@ format back into something comprehensible to a single monitor, which it then dumped out to its lone DVI out port. The reason I thought that is because the DM5 gets its input from the DCD outputs and I assumed (for no good reason apparantly) that if you weren't in a 2@ format the DCD wouldn't do anything, that it was basically turned off. I still think that kind of makes sense but at this point I don't know what to think. :shock:

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Same deal with the Linux command line partitioners, only once you finished partitioning you got to compound the joy by installing your distro of choice from a hundred and twenty floppies that you had laboriously downloaded and written out at work because no one had fast Internet at their houses back then... :P

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Indeed the contents of that directory are the same on my Octane, funny that one of the files is a symlink. And I get the same error if I try a file that tiles or a file that doesn't tile:
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root@:/usr/gfx/ucode/STINGRAY/cmb$ /usr/gfx/dmconf -destination active  -vpro format=1280_1024_96s -dm5 format=1080I_5994
Error reading VPro format 1280_1024_96s


I agree the dmconf man page is so sparse as to leave the command basically undocumented. None of this makes sense, SGI had their foot in the door of the broadcast media industry, what happened? NBC went in hook line and sinker with this hardware and used it to broadcast the entire Seoul Olympics, which, if you screw that up, man do you look bad. But it worked. I mean, it was pretty much a crowning success, right? SGI and NBC did press releases about its greatness. And so did Discreet, per their hardware that we've been referencing in lo these many threads. So who out-competed them in this arena? Or did they just abandon it in yet another of their utterly misguided strategy realignments?

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Ha ha well crap, as I mentioned I don't know diddly about broadcast video and as I also mentioned I'm pretty sure one of the SGI documents I saw on techpubs said don't even try using this hardware unless you're a world's leading expert perched in a CNN distribution center sending out video that's enlightening the masses... :P

Alright, let me take action on these suggestions and I'll post back more status when there's more status to post back... :lol:

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If you can find a way to upgrade to (at least) 6.5.3, you can download the 6.5.22 overlays for free with your Supportfolio account. Not sure if SGI will still sell you the 6.5.3 overlays or not, but my guess would be probably not...

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A reviewer at imdb says, and I quote:

"To paraphrase Elvis Costello- I just don't know where to begin.. Wooden acting, special effects from a Midwestern middle school science fair, a script that veers wildly from insipid to bizarre to total nonsense, actors that should face summary execution if they made only scale and still cashed their paychecks, a director that makes Ed Wood look like Ingmar Bergman. In other words a glorious triumph of B-grade movie making..

As you take in the visceral train wreck (that could only be better if released in grainy 8mm), you are reminded of what good/bad scifi is. Absolute suspension of disbelief, pure enjoyment of the insanity of it all, and a curious thought that you could not enjoy life more if you were shotgunned Thai sticks by Godzilla himself.."

Despite the fact that I loathe Tara Reid I think I'm gonna hafta take this one in! :mrgreen:
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:Tezro: :Octane2:
Overlays for for various versions of IRIX 6.5.x pop up fairly commonly on Ebay, and as I mentioned if you can get to 6.5.3 (or above) the upgrade to 6.5.22 is free from Supportfolio. And once you're at 6.5.22 there are many who would argue that going higher is actually a downgrade as opposed to an upgrade. Which is to say, 6.5.23 and above is arguably a case of "spoiled broth."

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A very nice toaster indeed! :P

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Shouldn't this be posted in the HP/DEC/COMPAQ forum? Or cross-posted? :P (ducks)

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Though I'm sure you already know this, to have a nice quiet firefox session where it doesn't barf pointless warning after pointless warning to the console from which you launched it, you can redirect it's stdout and stderr like so:

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firefox 2>/dev/null 1>&2 &

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And now they're making Sharknado 2! :shock:
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:Tezro: :Octane2:
What you need is the catalog of free and commercially supported software for IRIX!

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If this is the monitor you mean (picture) you don't need to do anything, it will work as-is with your Octane.

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hamei wrote:
some are like climbing the Matterhorn

More like the north wall of the Eiger. In an ice storm. Without rope. Or pitons or a hammer. Naked! :shock:

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hamei wrote: our internet is slow on international connections and youboob, faceblob, tweeter etc don't work here. So a lot of the background spyonyou crap is just an obstacle for me.

Dude, seriously. Time to repatriate! 8-)
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hamei wrote:
One of these would be cool in a nice Fuel red. The particular shade of brown they chose was ... unfortunate :(

That was before sgi got hip to muted pastels... 8-)

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Ha ha, well that might be true but at least we're freer than those poor assholes who live in Tibet! :lol:
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Hunga dunga galunga that is a lotta Tibet! :shock:
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Izat Donna Summer?! :shock:

Not the best pic I've seen of her... :lol:

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