The collected works of vishnu - Page 17

What kind of storage are you going to feed with that beast?

What the...

Is that a Lineman's Test Set dangling from the top right in the third picture?

jan-jaap wrote:

vishnu wrote: What kind of storage are you going to feed with that beast?

Uhm, I've got an IBM DS4300 SAN server (with an extra EXP710 disk tray) and an SGI TP9100 JBOD. Both have dual 2Gb attachments.

And your main usage of that enterprise-class storage is for photos of the wife and kids, right?

Hamei makes a good point, I would only add (at the risk of being obvious) that you can usually find out if you're overburdening your machine by running `top` in a terminal window. If it shows that the system memory is full and it's dumping tons of pages into and out of swap, then yeah, you're maxing it out...

Not to be contrapuntal but in my opinion Bluecode did not violate forum rules. Asking about the availability of software is not the same as asking to buy commercial software from someone/something who is/are not authorized by the software's copyright holder to sell it. Which, by the way, is how the forum rule should be worded...

recondas wrote:

vishnu wrote: Not to be contrapuntal but in my opinion Bluecode did not violate forum rules.

Don't think anybody said bluecode violated the no-commercial-software rule, though I did mention that he apparently wasn't too happy with it.

I think he was upset because in your answer you asked him to respect forum rules, none of which he had broken.

recondas wrote:

vishnu wrote: Asking about the availability of software is not the same as asking to buy commercial software from someone/something who is/are not authorized by the software's copyright holder to sell it.

If you're talking about the same thread that seemed to have set bluecode off, considering that the OP there posted in the "Hardware Wanted " forum:

jschulz wrote: Hi there, looking for a C++ Compiler for IRIX 5.3. If possible with a permanent license.

I think his intent was fairly transparent - the OP in that thread wanted / was asking for a C++ Compiler for IRIX 5.3 with a permanent license.

Well that's one way to interpret it, I was going to point the OP to a vendor from whom a compiler could be purchased, but you had already locked the thread. It wasn't a completely eggregious violation of the rule or you would have either edited the post or deleted the thread, right?

recondas wrote:

vishnu wrote: Which, by the way, is how the forum rule should be worded...

You're obviously free to make that demand of your/our host, but please respect the fact that he's equally free to do what he thinks is in the best interests of nekochan.net.

Actually I was just being facetious; the rule is perfectly clear as it is...

So then it is permissible to ask if anyone knows of a vendor who offers a software product that can do one thing or another? In this case it was a C++ compiler for Irix 5.3, but mentioning a perment license crossed the boundary?

A very necessary thing but the worst part of all this to me is that since IRIX is now abandonware we can no longer acquire any of the applications that made these workstations so valuable. I mean, here's the scenario, we still get new members all the time who post saying they've wanted an SGI workstation for days weeks months years etc., but now that they have one go ahead and try to get any of the vendors who make Maya or Shake or Pro/ENGINEER to sell an IRIX version, it just ain't gonna happen, and that's the tragedy...

Just by way of anecdote, when I called Autodesk to see about upgrading my version of Maya to 6.5, this would have been three or four years ago, the guy said "IRIX isn't in our catalog anymore" and I kept bugging him about it he pretty much said look, we're not going to sell it to you but if you want it that bad you can find it in the wild...!

Oskar45 wrote: Did you really ever find that upgrade in the wild?

Indeed I did! The Autodesk guy wasn't lying it is out there. Then again so is a big chunk of the IRIX source code.

hamei wrote:

vishnu wrote: ... when I called Autodesk to see about upgrading my version of Maya

Oh noes ! Did I just detect a request to purchase commercial software ??!

I am so gonna get banned!

hamei wrote: I figured it was possible

The weird thing is, they ran 6.5 for what, ten years or more ? And never got around to fixing that ? You can't expect me to believe that no one besides me has ever had an off-lined shared directory bring the entire desktop to its knees.

That's plumb stewpid

You should submit a bug for that! IRIX isn't end-of-life for another 50 days, they might fix it...

ClassicHasClass wrote: You mean, they're running healthcare.gov on Irix?

That would explain a lot...

Holy resurrection Batman!

Can I have it?

hamei wrote:

vishnu wrote:

ClassicHasClass wrote: You mean, they're running healthcare.gov on Irix?

That would explain a lot...

No, I think they resurrected some old code of Adrenaline's from when he was in sixth grade, and they're running it on that.

No, because then there would have been at least some design...

hamei wrote:

indyman007 wrote: You could just isolate the machine when adjusting of changing the chuck...

You could have PG&E come and shut off the electricity to that portion of the city, too, but it seems like elementary safety practices should be sufficient.

Like for example just stomping on the brake...

What does `file *.tardist` tell you?

The file program will tell you if they're really tar files or not. If file can't tell what they are they were probably corrupted somewhere in the download and all you should need to do is download them again.

Uploading it to nekowiki right now, will edit this post to show a link when the upload is complete, going pretty slooooooowly at the moment...

EDIT: I guess it ain't gonna happen, the wiki said This file is bigger than the server is configured to allow.

In the flyleaf of HMQ-380-C, SGI wrote: Silicon Graphics, Inc. Unpublished Proprietary Information - All Right Reserved

I noticed that and thought it must be a typo, along with the purple front pages, or it was a beta prior to the final version or something. I guess that must be why it's not on techpubs. Now I'm curious to go through the whole ridiculous 288 page thing to figure out what were the juicy bits they didn't want anyone to know!

EDIT/ADDENDUM: BTW that same verbiage is in virtually all the SGI C and C++ header files, well, actually it says "unpublished proprietary source code," and in fact they had that in the STL code which I think, but am not sure, they later changed to a BSD-like license, which allowed the FSF to include it in gcc/g++. Later, of course, the FSF wrote their own version of the STL but sgi's version was in there for at least a few years...

(Edited to fix a typo and improve readability, content unchanged) ...

It's easy for us to throw darts at sgi for their Cadillac pricing policy but the simple fact is that creating documentation like this is a very expensive and time consuming process...

hamei wrote: So is buying, installing and maintaining a 200" Betts VBM. Your company is still here. Has been since before WW II.

Why isn't SGI ?

Vertical integration killed SGI and all the rest of the commercial Unix industry. When we realized we needed a 200" VBM we bought one from Betts, when SGI realized they needed one they designed it from scratch and built it themselves...

hamei wrote: btw, what is our definition of "useful work" ?

Or, as Tom Davis said at the introduction of IRIX 5.0, "Try to do some real work on a 16 megabyte Indy. Case closed."

hamei, seriously, you still do all your Internet browsing on your Fuel? All of it? Because, like, I don't see how it's possible to do that while maintaining any level of sanity...

Back in the day, when sgi was market capped at 5-billion plus, it was the only architecture that could run applications like Pro/E and Maya. Obviously, sgi got their asses handed to them by the Wintel Juggernaut but my Octane still runs Maya 6.5 pretty well, and don't forget that all three of the Matrix movies were made with Maya 4 and below. So, with Maya 6.5 and Shake 3.6 what I've got is a circa-2005 Hollywood special effects studio, and for now that's still plenty good enough for me...

hamei wrote: To fight the unbeatable foe
to bear the unbearable sorrow
to run where the brave dare not go ...

I'm now drinking a martini with two olives to celebrate this Rat Pack tributary post...

Dag yo!

By all accounts Dean never recovered from the untimely death of his son, suffered in an aircraft accident he was the pilot of...

Crrrrrr ee py!

Awesome disclaimers, "...people should not watch if they have physical or mental problems or need to see their doctor regularly."

And, yet again, dailymail proves its website can make my dual-CPU 21259.72 BOGOMIPS workstation run like a 4.77MHz IBM PC.

Anyone actually tried compiling it on a Sun? I've got Sun Studio 11 and Sparkworks 1.129 on my Blade 2500 but since it's 64 bit there's no point trying to compile it on that?

foetz wrote:

vishnu wrote: but since it's 64 bit there's no point trying to compile it on that?

how so?

The OP posted "XView currently does not support 64-bit platforms although 64-bit port is planned" but as JP rightly pointed out all I have to do is compile it as a 32 bit executable on my 64 bit Blade.

Ah, that's a ten year old topic I'd be surprised if any of the links weren't dead!

When you're trying to get shared objects to work on Linux, you have to rerun ldconfig every time you add an object or change an object file's name, or the system can't find the new/renamed file. I suppose I should know if something similar is the case on IRIX, but I don't, anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

How old are your boys? I've got Super Tux Kart completely compiled but I can't link it because for reasons that have completely defeated me I cannot get nekoware SDL to install on my system. So if someone with a working SDL (and a working compiler) wants to do the linking I'd be happy to supply the object files. Kids love Tux Kart right?

hamei wrote: Attachment:
xjewel.zip [53.26 KiB]
Downloaded 1 time

Nice! No XTeddy?

Vladio wrote: As far as Mame, not available for IRIX I guess?

Uh, well from the mame makefile:
Looks sufficiently cross-platform that we should be able to get an IRIX version to work. I'm nowhere near an IRIX box at the moment (well, actually I am but it hasn't been able to boot in years) but I'll have a look at it this weekend. Maybe take another stab at getting nekoware's SDL to install as well...

Maya 6.5 on my dual 600MHz Octane2/v12 runs very nicely indeed...

hamei wrote: That's scary vish!

Agreed. For someone who's crawling with issues the guy's obviously pretty high functioning though...

canavan wrote: neko_xteddy ist still in /beta, just in case you should need it.

Everybody needs xteddy!

The only thing I ever used Basic for was to fill IBM PC screens with scrolling different colored background and foreground text displays. I'd load the program onto co-workers PCs after they went home for the day and they'd show up the next morning and freak out about what their computer was doing. This would have been in the 80s of course. Yeah, I know, I'm one of those old dudes.

Anyway, pretty sure I don't need to do that again in C...

Oskar45 wrote:

foetz wrote: it's this time again. hope you have a good time wherever you are

While I'd a very bad year myself - all the best to all of you nevertheless...

I have 12 guaranteed bad days every year, the days I write my monthly $3000 check to my ex!

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all!

I absolutely do not get people's obsession with their phones, if I want to web browse I need at least a 21 inch monitor at 1600x1200 or it's not worth it, and why spend 45 minutes in a text conversation that could have been done in two minutes using voice? So alright, I'm a Luddite...

You can still get it here: http://davy.nyacom.net/oct/

jmjsgi wrote: When the interface starts, I have an empty desktop and my mouse without any icons.

If you right click the mouse, do you get the 4DWM "Desktop" popup menu?