The collected works of ClassicHasClass - Page 16

Dragging OS 9 into the 21st century (added SHA-256 certificates and TLSv1 SNI).

http://www.classilla.org/
liner notes: http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2014/10/ ... ly_28.html

Welcome. The best SGI is the one you have. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Yeah, I'm all about the geek pr0n.

Technically, it didn't. There are lots of arguments over exactly how far it got in development, but in the end it didn't matter because IBM never released it.

I will not part with my Indy tote. I love it.

Because Un*xy things of that era don't work like that.

I remember an Indy ad in Wired. Wish I could find it now, because I drooled over it at the time (as a starving university undergrad).

About all the SGI swag I have now, other than the Indy bag, is an SGI mousepad.

Well, there's at least one more Indy now available (see other thread ).

Really? It built out of the box for me on my G5.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactiv ... orporation

It descends from SVR3.2.

However it simply could not be as cretinous as SCO from 1992, where I had to use loopback NFS mounts to make up for the lack of symbolic links...

You must be kidding. Please say you were kidding.

Welcome!

Trippynet wrote: Welcome! XMMS is decent for music, and of course takes classic Winamp skins as well. I've ran it with no problems on several SGI machines. Couple it with a 300GB disk full of music and an O2 makes a very nice little jukebox, especially if you replace the PSU fan with a quieter one

Web browsing wise, Dillo 3 is incredibly fast, but also very basic (although better than Netscape). For simple sites, it's great, and it works well with Nekoware and Nekochan! I've actually found on my old Indigo2 that SeaMonkey is faster than Firefox and does a good job of rendering a lot of reasonably modern/complex pages (although it'll choke with very new stuff). Always bear in mind that browsing the web isn't exactly what SGIs were designed for, and that applies doubly for O2s...

The reason for that is very simple: SeaMonkey 1.1 is Gecko 1.8.1, same as Firefox 2. Much slimmer, but more limited with respect to standards support.

And the Little Tramp, and the M*A*S*H ads. Whatever IBM was smoking, it wasn't the good stuff.

Yay!

Never seen an SGI unboxing. Nice find.

Floodgap runs off a T1. The adventure in getting that was something ridiculous and six weeks of downtime I do not want to go through again, mostly due to the d*ckheads at Time Worthless. AT&T is of course the ILEC but I buy it through DSLExtreme who has always treated me right even when I was an ADSL customer back at my old apartment. It has a great SLA (<24h to fix anything) and stable, low-latency bandwidth with 13 static IPs of which I'm actively using 5 and have 8 reserved. Of course, it costs an arm and a leg, and download is fixed at 1.5Mbps. But that was the only hardline I could get when I moved in three years ago -- no ADSL/SDSL (the T1 is provisioned over HDSL, interestingly), I ended up making a complaint to the FCC about Time Wanker, and no other service providers.

By coincidence the local pedestal is in my backyard. I'd heard rumours of a fiber hut being built about a year ago but as late as January this year, AT&T said no U-verse service to my address. The AT&T tech was over the other day to look at one of the cross-connects and I asked him if that had changed, and he said the hut should get to my address now. DSLExtreme resells U-verse as trueStream and lo and behold, my address is listed as operational.

U-verse is FTTN so there's no fiber from my pedestal to the house, I think. I have two copper pairs, both buried. When the T1 was installed they took both existing copper pairs (no trenching was required) and the tech put in a new terminal with a standard 8-pin smartjack as the demarc. This terminal is outside on the back porch and I did the wiring myself from there with two Cat 5 cables, with each pair in a separate jacket (the other wires are unused). The run is about 60' and the T1 router is in the server room, where it pops out RJ-45 Ethernet into my external switch.

I've got about 8 more months on my T1 contract and then I'm going to strongly consider this, keeping in mind I may not get the same level of service or reliability, and I have to verify how many static IPs I can get (it appears five, which will just fit, but gives me no expansion ability). What I don't want is another colossal mess during the transition, because the T1 will probably have to be taken off the pairs at the CO prior to setting up (what I imagine is) ADSL from the hut to my house. That's unavoidable. What I hope to avoid is d*cking around with the wiring. Does anyone know what goes from the NID to the router? Is it also T1? I'm told it's "RJ45" but I don't think it's regular Ethernet. I imagine I could rewire my existing wire run, but I don't know how many pairs it takes or anything about the pinout, and I'd rather do it myself than fight with the tech.

Candidly, design is substantially more important than fabrication, and even those articles admit that a used game is still less expensive than a home-build (and likely to be better designed unless you're an expert player who understands ball flow, therefore more fun). I'd keep looking for the DE Star Wars. That's a pretty fun one, actually. I played it at the Pinball Hall of Fame in Vegas.

Anyway, as promised, pix.

Yeah, they're a bit of a culture clash together. I'm saving my pennies to do an LED upgrade of the general illumination and translite bulbs on the TNG (I'm keeping the Sopranos machine stock -- the incandescent GI look suits it, and the translite is already fluorescent). That should make it even sexier.

I don't have room for three there, but I'm thinking about where I could horn another one or two in.

He's going to port BSD to it, of course.

Fry's is selling a 60GB Patriot Blaze SSD for $34. At that price it was very hard to say no to at least try in the G5.

I gave up trying to get a hobbyist license. At least my VAXstation came with 6.2 "full" preinstalled with no license termination date.

I don't remember when it was, at least a number of months back. But I'd tried over and over up until then. I got a DECUS #, submitted it, and received a big fat load of nothing, no paks, no reply.

If the point of the hobbyist program is to increase the VMS user base, it's backfiring. I gave up until I bought this VAXsta with all the licenses included.

http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2014/12/ ... etely.html

I've started to really enjoy my Palm devices again. The Zire 72 and the Dana are getting regular use, and I just ordered a Centro I found cheap (unlocked GSM -- should work great with T-Mobile if I need it to). Today's smartphones aren't really PDAs in the classic sense.

Well, it's about damn time!

Thanks, nekonoko!

http://recon.cx/2014/slides/Recon%20201 ... hinsky.pdf

Slide 16 and 50.

Also, just for gits and shiggles, the ARC 600 used in earlier Intel MEs is a descendant of the SuperFX chip in the Super NES (ARC originally stood for Argonaut RISC Core).

I love my Dana wireless. I wish there had been other Palm netbooks -- since that's essentially what the Dana is -- because the form factor is great. If you get one, I'll get you a copy of DanaWeb. EudoraWeb is more practical on the 68K Palms but you'll be impressed with what they got a Dana to do.

I tried Opera Mini on my Centro but it got as far as Installing... and stopped cold. I'm a little irked that the Centro won't run the hacked NetFront that's floating around (the Zire 72 will, and it's wonderful) -- it just crashes to the boot sequence -- and its version of Blazer appears to be hardcoded to use cell data instead of Bluetooth networking. If anyone knows a way around the latter, please advise.

Plua is the bomb for writing simple apps like this.

Does the Dreamcast really need an introduction? It is second only to my beloved Intellivision as my favourite console. I have a US version with a Broadband Adaptor, keyboard, mouse, controllers with VMU and rumble pack, and an SD card reader. It is otherwise unmodified, but it runs PowerShell, Utopia and IP Upload Slave from disc. (For some reason my Mac OS 9 MDD is the only system here that can reliably burn the necessary offset audio track.)

There is a NetBSD/dreamcast which is current, but the quality of the LiveCDs that are floating around is questionable insofar as you really need NFS to do just about anything. Even if you set up the RAM disk version, there's not a lot you can do with it out of the box unless you (surprise) extend the filesystem with NFS. I would ordinarily use NetBSD here, but that kind of sucks. (I'm waiting for miod to protest. If there is a Live CD of NetBSD/DC that sets up a union filesystem or something, I'd be delighted to hear about it.)

A couple months ago I ran across a partially complete file dump for Dreamcast Linux. This is appallingly ancient, a 2.4.5 kernel version circa 2001. However, this seems to be all that's out there; I have a zImage for a 2.6.11 kernel but it doesn't seem to be bootable (and I can't seem to extract the vmlinux binary out of it to try it with IP Upload Slave). So after I fixed the symlinks and adjusted a few things, I burnt it and booted the DC up and ... well, it's very nice. I've got a decent selection of tools (including Perl), I've got an old but functional SuperH toolchain which compiles to RAM disk but I now have it setup for NFS, I could configure NFS swap with a bit of gyration and hacking on the BBA media speed, and it even includes XMame and PrBoom because it is, after all, a console. There's even a minimal implementation of X.

I've been spending some time updating it with a new zlib, new zoneinfo tables and it's working on NTP since hwclock doesn't like the Dreamcast RTC.

What I'd really like is a new kernel. Anyone else out there played with Linux on SH systems? linux-sh.org seems to have gone to the Wayback Machine in the sky, and their backups don't have a lot of info or even any kernel binaries. I suppose I might have to set up a cross-compiler to make a new kernel since Dreamcast building over NFS using a union RAM disk-GDROM root is incredibly slow.

Yes, I like the SH-4 quite a lot. Unfortunately with the demise of the Dreamcast, SuperH is doomed to becoming another boutique low-volume RISC. I would be very surprised if it's even used regularly in the embedded market anymore, what with all the other choices (MIPS, Power, ARM of course, ...).

I'm relieved (and disappointed) to hear there isn't a NetBSD/DC live CD in the strictest sense, though I can't imagine why not. Overlaying the RAM disk on top of the GD-ROM filesystem seems like a no-brainer unless you know some reason why this might not be as "simple" or straightforward as it sounds like it should be.

The idea is to do a bit more polishing on it and then put ISOs and .tar.gzs onto the Gopher server for people to play with so it has a semi-reliable repository.

QNX, interesting. I bet QNX doesn't support any of the DC hardware though.

foetz wrote: hmm, what's wrong with hp-ux?

Would you like that list alphabetized or by priority?

I'm delighted to see that they are primarily PA-RISC packages. That makes me happy. I just don't have a place to put the C8000 right now or I'd grab a few (my HP-UX jones is satisfied by the 9000/350 for the moment).

I've got a Treamcast too. (The clone with the built-in display that Sega made them pull off the market. I like the form factor, but the BBA won't attach to the side slot without modification.)

The whole idea with DC Linux is that it should work on a regular factory DC with a keyboard. Cursorily, I see Dreamcasts of varying condition on eBay for anywhere from $20 to $50, and the keyboard another $30-$40. That will boot the Linux or the minimal NetBSD install.

The expense is the networking. The Broadband Adapter was never cheap even when it was sold, and currently they go for around $200. I'm not aware of any distro that supports the modem.

commodorejohn wrote:

vegac wrote: Pity Dillo is so limited...it's certainly got speed on its side.

Unfortunately, the fact that Dillo is so limited is why it's got speed on its side. We put such absurd demands on web browsers now, with elaborate layouts and absolute mountains of Javascript even on a lot of pages that would be perfectly fine without it, that it's basically impossible to have a browser that's both efficient and full-featured enough to make a lot of modern webpages happy. There have certainly been some heroic efforts (yo, ClassicHasClass!) but ultimately the choice comes down to efficient-but-limited versus full-featured-but-beastly...

Yeah, hacking on Fx some more for Irix is on my round tuit list, but TenFourFox has highest priority (which, speaking of JavaScript, should have a full Ion implementation for PowerPC by Fx38 if I can get my skates on).

Picked up a CacheRaQ 2 -- shipped by the seller in a box that looked like it had been dropkicked. I open it up and the machine is wrapped in shopping bags and a freaking towel . But it's intact, and it boots! The RM5231 is a pleasant speed bump over the RM5230 in my RaQ 1 in service (it's the NFS server for the Dreamcast and a few other machines), though I don't really need the extra CPU power, so this will do nicely as a spare.

The CacheRaQ has two NICs, so that's a nice bonus, but otherwise has the same hardware as the regular RaQ 2. I can see the solder pads on the board for the SCSI port which it doesn't have; fortunately, the internal IDE is sufficient for my purposes.

I like the Qube, but the RaQ is so slim and uses so little power that it's more useful to me in my space-constrained ghetto server rack. I'd have to find a "place" to put the Qube.

I need a NeXT Cube. I have a G4 Cube which I need to put a 1.8GHz card in (and a fan).

I use Adblock Edge, which is a little lighterweight, but on TenFourFox -- haven't tried it on SGI Firefox.