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vwarez wrote:
ClassicHasClass wrote: Oh, so jealous! I've wanted one of those for ages!


I know what you mean. They are almost impossible to find because to the average Joe they look like an old Dos/Windows laptop and they throw them away.


If you get bored with it, you have an interested buyer. :)
smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 900MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12 DCD, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
:Indigo2IMP: purplehaze , 175MHz R10000, Solid IMPACT
probably posted from Image bruce , Quad 2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 16GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
They're worth a decent penny but even USD$800 sounds rather steep.
smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 900MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12 DCD, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
:Indigo2IMP: purplehaze , 175MHz R10000, Solid IMPACT
probably posted from Image bruce , Quad 2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 16GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
There you go! My Sawtooth looks identical to the one on the left.

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SGIs: :Indy: :Fuel: Mini Iron: :hpserv: POWER6 ANS500 Fun: quad- Image BeBox SolbourneS3000 Commodore128 CanonCat ... and many more
AIX 4.2 has CDE.
smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 900MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12 DCD, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
:Indigo2IMP: purplehaze , 175MHz R10000, Solid IMPACT
probably posted from Image bruce , Quad 2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 16GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
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For something better, check out the actively maintained PowerPC Firefox fork at http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ .


I hear the maintainer is a real jerk, though.

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smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 700MHz R16K, 2GB RAM, V12, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
probably posted from Image bruce , 2x2x2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 8GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
Man, you ruin my fun. ;)

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smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 700MHz R16K, 2GB RAM, V12, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
probably posted from Image bruce , 2x2x2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 8GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
I've always said that if you want a G5, just go buy a Power Mac (and then stick Linux on it if you want). The liquid-cooled quad is decent and is my daily driver Mac, though I use it with 10.4 so I can still run Classic applications. The IntelliStations aren't bad hardware but AIX is not a good workstation OS and hasn't been since the 4.x days. I couldn't even get Firefox 3.6 to run on my POWER6 without errors all over the place.

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smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 700MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
probably posted from Image bruce , 2x2x2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 8GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
That's a nice little system. With some extra RAM it should really cook. Mine is a 150MHz system also, but it's only a R4400SC, though the 256MB of RAM helps a lot.

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smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 700MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
probably posted from Image bruce , 2x2x2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 8GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
Lol on the cooking part, though my R4400 seems to be fine without special dispensation (but it's not crammed in a corner either).

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smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 700MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
probably posted from Image bruce , 2x2x2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 8GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
Since we're dusting off this thread ...

previously: system administrator/DBA (mostly HP-UX and AIX, a bit of Solaris and RH)

currently: physician (primary care and public health)

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smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 700MHz R16K, 2GB RAM, V12, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
probably posted from Image bruce , 2x2x2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 8GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
Just noticed three SoCalites in the last several posts, including myself. We should have a Sunny So Cal meetup one day.

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smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 700MHz R16K, 2GB RAM, V12, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
probably posted from Image bruce , 2x2x2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 8GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
I lost interest in Apple when they went Intel.

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smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 700MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
probably posted from Image bruce , 2x2x2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 8GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
Can we get back to how Apple sucks?

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smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 700MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
probably posted from Image bruce , 2x2x2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 8GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
I'm getting an Atrix dock so I can turn my Rpi into a "RISC OS laptop." Acorn A4, you were missed.

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smit happens.
SGIs: :Indy: :Fuel: Mini Iron: :hpserv: POWER6 ANS500 Fun: quad- Image BeBox SolbourneS3000 Commodore128 CanonCat ... and many more
Always thought there was room for an iOS laptop, which might even be logical now that OS X is becoming more iOS all the time.

But if all you want is an ARMbook, the ARM Chromebook is looking very tempting. Just throw Linux on it if you don't want to run Chrome OS.

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smit happens.
SGIs: :Indy: :Fuel: Mini Iron: :hpserv: POWER6 ANS500 Fun: quad- Image BeBox SolbourneS3000 Commodore128 CanonCat ... and many more
So I never posted here. My AIX boxen are a 2-way POWER6 Power 520, which is my main server, and an Apple Network Server, running AIX 6.1TLmumble and 4.1.5 respectively. I've thought about getting an old RS/6000 workstation with 3.2.5 to relive the glory days, since I administered a passle of 3.2.5 machines in my previous career.

Other than that, my other real honest-to-Watson hardware is a beat-up old Aptiva which I don't know why I've kept all these years, and a couple of PCjrs which were the only PCs I actually liked because the Peanut was an appealing little machine. I even have the hard case for it.
smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 900MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12 DCD, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
:Indigo2IMP: purplehaze , 175MHz R10000, Solid IMPACT
probably posted from Image bruce , Quad 2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 16GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
No, we weren't a YP/NIS shop. And thank goodness. :lol:
smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 900MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12 DCD, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
:Indigo2IMP: purplehaze , 175MHz R10000, Solid IMPACT
probably posted from Image bruce , Quad 2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 16GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
Pretty. But with 768MB of RAM, there's really no point to Virtual Memory being enabled except if you expect to run a *lot* of stuff simultaneously, from which you would benefit from the file mapping. Otherwise, OS 9 is happier with it off, and faster.

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smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 700MHz R16K, 2GB RAM, V12, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
probably posted from Image bruce , 2x2x2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 8GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
Use separate system folders for OS 9 and Classic. You'll get a lot more mileage that way. You can just duplicate the System Folder and tell Classic to use the duped folder.

Usually it's the other way around -- some marginal systems are iffy in Leopard but rock solid in Tiger. Tiger is a much more optimal choice for this machine, though you could coax it to run Leopard, of course.

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smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 700MHz R16K, 2GB RAM, V12, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
probably posted from Image bruce , 2x2x2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 8GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
Do you have an accelerator for the video card enabled? That would be the first thing I'd check, especially since the DVD player may depend on it. The Rage Pro should support that.

Classic mode may or may not benefit from that, but OS 9 natively definitely will.

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smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 700MHz R16K, 2GB RAM, V12, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
probably posted from Image bruce , 2x2x2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 8GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
How well does quake.sw run on an Indy?

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smit happens.
SGIs: :Indy: :Fuel: Mini Iron: :hpserv: POWER6 ANS500 Fun: quad- Image BeBox SolbourneS3000 Commodore128 CanonCat ... and many more
14fps, ooer.

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smit happens.
SGIs: :Indy: :Fuel: Mini Iron: :hpserv: POWER6 ANS500 Fun: quad- Image BeBox SolbourneS3000 Commodore128 CanonCat ... and many more
I have a Galaxy Nexus. It's a very good, though not perfect phone. It has no SD card, and its storage is accessed over aggravating MTP instead of something proper like USB Mass Storage, and I miss the charging light my Nexus One had. But the screen is nice, its battery life is not spectacular but certainly reasonable, I have an unlocked GSM version, the processor is more than up to the task of most jobs and I get updates as soon as the Mountain View Chocolate Factory poots them out. I'm sitting out the Nexus 4 and I'll get the one after that.

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smit happens.
SGIs: :Indy: :Fuel: Mini Iron: :hpserv: POWER6 ANS500 Fun: quad- Image BeBox SolbourneS3000 Commodore128 CanonCat ... and many more
Which just needs port-specific maintainers. We have JavaScript compilation on PowerPC now, for example, if I may toot my own horn a little. There are MIPS and SPARC JaegerMonkey backends too.

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smit happens.
SGIs: :Indy: :Fuel: Mini Iron: :hpserv: POWER6 ANS500 Fun: quad- Image BeBox SolbourneS3000 Commodore128 CanonCat ... and many more
Dude, speak for your own grandmother.

;)
smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 900MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12 DCD, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
:Indigo2IMP: purplehaze , 175MHz R10000, Solid IMPACT
probably posted from Image bruce , Quad 2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 16GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
I get wear just fine out of my G5. Once it gets to the point where it is not an effective browsing machine (it's nowhere near that yet), then I'd probably have the Intel mini run Linux in a VM and allow Firefox on the VM to connect to X11 on the G5 so I can still use the rest of the stuff the G5 works perfectly well for (Photoshop, Final Cut HD, games, Mac OS 9 Classic apps, basic Microsoft Office).

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smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 700MHz R16K, 2GB RAM, V12, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
probably posted from Image bruce , 2x2x2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 8GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
The MMJ adaptor on my VS3100 is just passive. I use a Solbourne S3000 as the console, just for yuks.

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smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 700MHz R16K, 2GB RAM, V12, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
probably posted from Image bruce , 2x2x2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 8GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
It gives them a good laugh back at corporate.

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smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 700MHz R16K, 2GB RAM, V12, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
probably posted from Image bruce , 2x2x2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 8GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
Other classic computers (mostly Power based, like Power Macs, etc., and 6502-based machines like the Commodore 8-bits).
Roadgeeking.

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You can't?? Those bastards!

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I just remember lusting over the Indy when it was advertised and for sale. No chance of buying one then. Many years later, I finally got one. I like the rest for what they are, but the Indy has a place in my internal fluid circulation pump.

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:Fuel: bigred , 700MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
probably posted from Image bruce , 2x2x2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 8GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
Quote:
woo boy, did we hijack chc's introduction thread or what? welcome aboard chc, i read in another thread that you maintain/update browsers for older macs, thanks heaps for that :)


Oh, I don't mind, and ta for the kind word :)

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Internal or external SCSI? Is it one of the drives that "just works" with DECs?

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smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 700MHz R16K, 2GB RAM, V12, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
probably posted from Image bruce , 2x2x2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 8GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
MorphOS is neat but not a good fit for the G5. The G5s are really only happy running OS X. Everything else has "stuff that doesn't quite work." If you really want to run MorphOS, get one of the supported G4s; they are much cheaper and easier to maintain as well.

The only two G5s worth owning are the dual 2.3, the fastest air-cooled, and the quad 2.5, the fastest Power Mac ever built and the one with the most reliable liquid cooling system. The others are either not significantly faster than the cheaper and more reliable Power Mac G4s they replaced, or they have too many problems with their power supply or cooling system. The last-generation G5s are also quite power hungry. That said, I'm typing this message on my quad G5.

I run 10.4. Realistically, unless you have a specific interest, the best reason to keep a Power Mac around is Classic, and 10.5 doesn't have Classic. TenFourFox covers my browsing needs, I don't have to rebuy Photoshop or QuarkXPress, and I can run all my regular Classic apps. So the G5 is the optimal machine for me.

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SGIs: :Indy: :Fuel: Mini Iron: :hpserv: POWER6 ANS500 Fun: quad- Image BeBox SolbourneS3000 Commodore128 CanonCat ... and many more
I actually like the MDD a lot, but my MDD has chewed through two power supplies. On the other hand, it's not as loud as the G5, and with the 1.8GHz dual 7447A card I installed, it absolutely rockets through stuff in OS 9.

But short of the MDD, I'm a fan of the Sawtooth. Cheap, reasonably power thrifty, hackable, upgradeable, common as dirt. I use one as a file server (with a gigabit ethernet card and a FW800-connected RAID array and a crap load of RAM), and it serves very well in this capacity.

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Hey, that's pretty hot. The closest thing I have in my collection to a SPARCBook is my "luggable" Solbourne S3000 with that feel-the-heat orange monochrome gas plasma display. Even has the case!

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smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 700MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
probably posted from Image bruce , 2x2x2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 8GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
Chance eBay auction -- got it for a ridiculously low price, and I suspect the seller had no idea what he had.

I have a soft spot for Solbournes since I used them in undergrad. Shame they're "just incompatible enough" to be difficult to run anything but OS/MP on. But this Sol is a nice, space-saving machine (I used to use a S4100DX but Sun monitors are cantankerous and heavy). I got Chimera and X11R6 running on it and it purrs like a kitten.

Still, that is a nice little SPARCBook. I'm still holding out for one of the IBM AIX laptops personally myself.

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smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 700MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
probably posted from Image bruce , 2x2x2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 8GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
Neither would I. Or, for that matter, a Voyager.

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smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 700MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
probably posted from Image bruce , 2x2x2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 8GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
The Rpi build has some issues with my Atrix dock that the Rpi is connected to (resolutions won't stick, for example). I need to reflash it and mess with it some more. Still, it boots so much faster than Linux, and it seems a better fit for the low-power CPU.

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SGIs: :Indy: :Fuel: Mini Iron: :hpserv: POWER6 ANS500 Fun: quad- Image BeBox SolbourneS3000 Commodore128 CanonCat ... and many more
I mentioned this on 68KMLA, but for those who haven't played with them and have $200 burning a hole in your pocketses, the Philips hue wireless lighting set is tremendously fun to play with. Smart People(tm) have found that it communicates with the mobile app with a simple HTTP REST API. So I wrote a Perl script to do the same thing. Now I control my lights from my gopher server or over ssh.

http://www.floodgap.com/software/huepl/

I really, really want to get more bulbs installed! Must ... not ... go to ... the Apple Store ...

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smit happens.
SGIs: :Indy: :Fuel: Mini Iron: :hpserv: POWER6 ANS500 Fun: quad- Image BeBox SolbourneS3000 Commodore128 CanonCat ... and many more