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Read something they might be going for ARM Even on the desktop..
Where will it end...

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wow! looking forward to have this. always love to have a non x86 esp for a Mac.
cant they choose MIPS too? :)

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PymbleSoftware wrote:
Read something they might be going for ARM Even on the desktop..
Where will it end...

R.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411813,00.asp
I'd say that's more of the Sci-Fi genre for now, however I wouldn't mind an iStation (Mac Mini-sized ARM desktop) ;-)

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PymbleSoftware wrote:
Read something they might be going for ARM Even on the desktop..
Where will it end...

R.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411813,00.asp
I'd say that's more of the Sci-Fi genre for now, however I wouldn't mind an iStation (Mac Mini-sized ARM desktop) ;-)


SMH picked up the story from Bloomberg. I am sure everyone has their own views on it.
http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/business-i ... 28xat.html


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Always thought there was room for an iOS laptop, which might even be logical now that OS X is becoming more iOS all the time.

But if all you want is an ARMbook, the ARM Chromebook is looking very tempting. Just throw Linux on it if you don't want to run Chrome OS.

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ARM has never had an implementation that was performance-competitive in its own generation of CPUs, has it? I suppose that wasn't a criteria in the architecture design, given the focus on the embedded space. In some ways it is more "modern" than MIPS: no branch delay slots, POWER-like load-update and save/load-multiple, etc. But it wasn't until last week that they had a 64-bit processor!

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robespierre wrote:
ARM has never had an implementation that was performance-competitive in its own generation of CPUs, has it? I suppose that wasn't a criteria in the architecture design, given the focus on the embedded space. In some ways it is more "modern" than MIPS: no branch delay slots, POWER-like load-update and save/load-multiple, etc. But it wasn't until last week that they had a 64-bit processor!


In 1987 when Acorn Archimedes came to market it actually was pretty powerful system at the time. Soon everything has come full circle and ARM can maybe again be seen on desktop computers. There allready is enough power on those newer ARM processors to fulfill the basic computing needs of most normal people.

There is no doubt about it, and it is only a matter of time that Apple will ditch Intel and abandon their traditional computer lines. Computers are currently only small business for Apple and as most of their revenue comes from the mobile systems the logical progression is to go the way of iOS in all their systems.
robespierre wrote:
ARM has never had an implementation that was performance-competitive in its own generation of CPUs, has it? I suppose that wasn't a criteria in the architecture design, given the focus on the embedded space.


I think that's it. ARM is about giving the most cycles per watt and now that everybody is past the point of realizing they spend much more on cooling or power than they do on hardware and software multiplied together, ARM is giving Intel some very serious heartburn in the data center.

robespierre wrote:
In some ways it is more "modern" than MIPS: no branch delay slots, POWER-like load-update and save/load-multiple, etc. But it wasn't until last week that they had a 64-bit processor!


Intel has been the market leader in toy machines and small rack gear from the beginning and their ISA is a disgrace. They take complexity for complexity' sake to high art. It's pretty clear all you need to sell a lot of hardware is to get Windows to run on it and then do some "creative" marketing.

You really could do most desktop computing with a 32 bit box but that doesn't sell new hardware.

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