The collected works of geo - Page 1

hi guys! :)

a friend of mine will go to japan this cny for vacation and i would like to ask some favors from her hehehe
hmmm is there a good shop there for affordable sgi stuffs? like CPU and RAMs? just some lil bits coz ahem its a she :)

or hmmm if you go there what do you usually buy? something for remembrance?

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:Octane: (Sakura) :O2: (Sasuke) :1600SW: (Naruto) ... lil Jesse! (O2 laptop)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
hi guys :)

i tried to install something but i got stuck here:

Code:
IRIS 32# ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --enable-systray  \
--with-ext-charcode=CP932 CC=/usr/nekoware/bin/gcc
checking for doxygen... no
configure: WARNING: doxygen not found - will not generate any doxygen documentation
checking for perl... /usr/sbin/perl
checking for a BSD-compatible install... ./install-sh -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... ./install-sh -c -d
checking for gawk... no
checking for mawk... no
checking for nawk... nawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for style of include used by make... GNU
checking for gcc... /usr/nekoware/bin/gcc
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether /usr/nekoware/bin/gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for /usr/nekoware/bin/gcc option to accept ISO C89... none needed
checking dependency style of /usr/nekoware/bin/gcc... gcc3
checking for library containing strerror... none required
checking for gcc... (cached) /usr/nekoware/bin/gcc
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes
checking whether /usr/nekoware/bin/gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for /usr/nekoware/bin/gcc option to accept ISO C89... (cached) none needed
checking dependency style of /usr/nekoware/bin/gcc... (cached) gcc3
checking for gcc... (cached) /usr/nekoware/bin/gcc
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes
checking whether /usr/nekoware/bin/gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for /usr/nekoware/bin/gcc option to accept ISO C89... (cached) none needed
checking dependency style of /usr/nekoware/bin/gcc... (cached) gcc3
checking for intltool >= 0.31... 0.37.1 found
checking for xgettext... no
checking for msgmerge... no
checking for msgfmt... no
configure: error: GNU gettext tools not found; required for intltool
IRIS 33#


hmmm im sure i got gettext installed in my system from nekoware. i also tried three diff. gcc (nekoware, freeware and TWW) but still the same, did i miss something? sorry noob here :(

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:Octane: (Sakura)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
hi guys! really thanks for the replies, really helped man :)

what i did was i added /usr/nekoware/bin to my PATH, i thought during setup this was already handled be hehe now i know. so now it was able to see gettext, next stop is xml::parser?

Code:
IRIS 6# ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --enable-systray  \
--with-ext-charcode=CP932
checking for doxygen... no
configure: WARNING: doxygen not found - will not generate any doxygen documentation
checking for perl... /usr/sbin/perl
checking for a BSD-compatible install... ./install-sh -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... ./install-sh -c -d
checking for gawk... no
checking for mawk... no
checking for nawk... nawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for style of include used by make... GNU
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... none needed
checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3
checking for library containing strerror... none required
checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... (cached) none needed
checking dependency style of gcc... (cached) gcc3
checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... (cached) none needed
checking dependency style of gcc... (cached) gcc3
checking for intltool >= 0.31... 0.37.1 found
checking for xgettext... /usr/nekoware/bin/xgettext
checking for msgmerge... /usr/nekoware/bin/msgmerge
checking for msgfmt... /usr/nekoware/bin/msgfmt
checking for perl... /usr/sbin/perl
checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool


i already downloaded and installed neko_perl_xml_parser and neko_perl-5.8.9 hmmm but it seems the configure file looks for perl in /usr/sbin by default hmmm any way to redirect it to /usr/nekoware/bin? i tried to check the configure file maybe i could modify it manually but geeez my noob eyes can't see anything for my intention.. i know i need more digging but hehe just want to ask here for faster turnaround, thanks again in advance ! :)

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:Octane: (Sakura)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
foetz wrote:
just place /usr/nekoware/bin before /usr/sbin in your PATH

thanks foetz! actually while waiting i was able to redirect it by adding INTLTOOL_PERL=/usr/nekoware/bin/perl whne invoking configure hehe was a lucky trial and error but waahh with all the time wasted i was stupid not able to see that the application needs libgnomeui-2.0 >= 2.14, which i only got 2.12 in nekoware :( any other way?
Code:
onfigure: error: Package requirements (libgnomeui-2.0 >= 2.14
gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4
glib-2.0 >= 2.8) were not met:

so i think gtk+ and glib i still have a chance ayt? coz the neko version are higher, i only got this message coz i haven't installed it yet.. but geeez only libgnomeui is left.. na ja, ill just take a nap now its 2:24am here, gute nacht leute!

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:Octane: (Sakura)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
foetz wrote:
looks like you need the 2.14. time to update nekoware

hehe that's the worst that i thought hmmm ok2x i know i sound too optimistic if ill say ill volunteer myself to do the upgrade for nekoware? but there's no harm in trying ayt? wish me luck guys :)

ok just got these questions before ill start:
1. Is this the official or feasible site to get the sources and compile it for nekoware?
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/vi ... omeui.html
2. Is my assumption right that to do these upgrade, all i need is to download the latest source and all its dependencies and compile/install it in my SGI station?
3. And when installing i should point it to a clean folder so that after all are successfully installed, i should make a package out of the folder?

Sorry if this sound too-noob, just my PC-brain got rusted with Winblows spoon-feeding architecture :(
So looking forward to a fruitful endeavor, later guys!

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:Octane: (Sakura)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
hamei wrote:
^^ Helpful directions are here :

http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/index.php/ ... g_Software

Might be easier to start out on some smaller project tho

Hi Hamei!! great to hear from you, been a long time :)
Anyway thanks for this link, i stumbled here before but put aside awhile, ill use it later then :)

ows just a quick update of my Sakura (Octane) cant believe can reach this far hehe
1. External Yamaha
2. IRIX6.5.29 CD sets + Application June1998
3. GCC from neko, freeware and TWW; but for now as default i'll use neko's gcc :)

next stop is MIPSPro, i met someone in chinaunix.net and he offered me his copy for 150RMB, what you think?

hehe yes2x my intention was small at first, but unfortunately it required an updated libgnomeui :(
anyway i already started and finished downloaded all the dependencies and wahhh really big work ahead geeez i made this list below hehe to keep track which is which. ill start install/compile it tomorrow maybe.. but still thinking its wise to wait for MIPSPro? hmmm ows forgot to mention hehe the little cause of all these is i want to run IPMsg on my IRIX hehe i already installed it in my XP,Ubuntu.. i want to try it in IRIX just for curiosity sake :)

Code:
ok libgnomeui-2.24.2 Dependencies:
ok   libbonoboui-2.24.2
ok   gnome-keyring-2.28.2



libbonoboui-2.24.2 Dependencies:
ok     libgnome-2.28.0
ok     libgnomecanvas-2.26.0

gnome-keyring-2.28.2 Dependencies:
ok     GConf-2.28.0
ok     GTK+-2.18.7
ok     intltool-0.40.6
ok     Libgcrypt-1.4.5
ok     libtasn1-2.5      *



libgnome-2.28.0 Dependencies:
ok       libbonobo-2.24.2
ok       GNOME Virtual File System-2.24.2

libgnomecanvas-2.26.0 Dependencies:
ok       libglade-2.6.4
done      libxml2-2.7.6   *
done      GTK+-2.18.7
ok       libart_lgpl-2.3.20   *

GConf-2.28.0 Dependencies:
patch
ok       ORBit2-2.14.17
ok      libIDL-0.8.13
ok        GLib-2.22.4
ok          PCRE-8.00     *
ok       polkit-0.94

GTK+-2.18.7 Dependencies:
ok       cairo-1.8.10
ok       Pango-1.26.2
ok       ATK-1.28.0
done      GLib-2.22.4

ok       LibTIFF-3.9.2      *
ok    libjpeg-7      *
ok    hicolor-icon-theme-0.11*

intltool-0.40.6 Dependencies:
ok       XML::Parser-2.36
ok         expat-2.0.1      *

Libgcrypt-1.4.5 Dependencies:
ok       Libgpg-error-1.7   *



libbonobo-2.24.2 Dependencies:
done      ORBit2-2.14.17
ok      libxml2-2.7.6   *
ok      popt-1.15      *
done       XML::Parser-2.36
ok      D-Bus GLib Bindings-0.82
ok         D-BUS-1.2.16
done        GLib-2.22.4
done        expat-2.0.1

GNOME Virtual File System-2.24.2 Dependencies:
done      D-Bus GLib Bindings-0.82
done      GConf-2.28.0
ok      GNOME MIME Data-2.18.0
done        XML::Parser-2.36

polkit-0.94 Dependencies:
ok      D-Bus GObject Bindings-0.5
done      D-Bus GLib Bindings-0.82
ok      DocBook XSL Stylesheets-1.75.2
done         libxml2-2.7.6
done      intltool-0.40.6
ok      Linux-PAM-1.1.1      *
ok      gobject-introspection-0.6.5
done        GLib-2.22.4
ok        libffi-3.0.8
ok        Python-2.6.4
patch
ok      DocBook XML DTD-4.5
done         libxml2-2.7.6
ok        UnZip-6.0
patch

cairo-1.8.10 Dependencies:
ok      libpng-1.2.42   *
patch
ok      pixman-0.15.20
done        GTK+-2.18.7
ok      Fontconfig-2.8.0
ok         FreeType-2.3.12
done        expat-2.0.1
done        libxml2-2.7.6

Pango-1.26.2 Dependencies:
done       GLib-2.22.4
done       cairo-1.8.10
X Window System
done      Fontconfig-2.8.0

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:Octane: (Sakura)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
hehehe this thread reminds me of my colleague who overheard someone's conversation while waiting for his turn at the immigration line: "what you can't find in China, does not exist.." hehe what's worst is they were Americans talking :)

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:Octane: (Sakura)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
Oskar45 wrote:
maxsleg wrote:
so Oskar54, who will you cheer for?
Brazil.

pssst i thought you were a German too :)

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:Octane: (Sakura)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
:shock: :shock: :shock: STITCHED??? :shock: :shock: :shock: WAAAHH LOVE TO HAVE ONE!!!
:Octane: (Sakura) :O2: (Sasuke) :1600SW: (Naruto) ... lil Jesse! (O2 laptop)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
Tabalabs wrote: Yep! It will last almost forever :D
Want one? Maybe I can do a run and sell here on forum, if moderator allows...

if moderator allows, YES! ill take one! ;) it will indeed last longer! esp ill hand wash it by myself if ever hehe

kshuff wrote:
Tabalabs wrote: Yep! It will last almost forever :D
Want one? Maybe I can do a run and sell here on forum, if moderator allows...


And if SGI allows it, their a little fanatical about using their logo.

oh! what a game stopper... but hmm maybe they don't care about this logo anymore coz they change it to a new one? hmm

Tabalabs wrote: Ask them to get me here in Brazil. And bring toghether some SGI swag. But please, with the old logo.

hahaha im not sure if i understood this well but hehehe sound like fun hehehe
:Octane: (Sakura) :O2: (Sasuke) :1600SW: (Naruto) ... lil Jesse! (O2 laptop)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
hmmm wonder if can use in O2 using Video IN and Mic as inputs with some tweaks :)
:Octane: (Sakura) :O2: (Sasuke) :1600SW: (Naruto) ... lil Jesse! (O2 laptop)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
hi guys, has anyone here also use Ipmsg on your office? or is it only me hehe coz im almost done with my motif version of it, i know there is already xipmsg and i was able to run it on my Octane, its just xipmsg only can do message but no file tranfer, so my question is, is my little project worth the time? anyway it also helped me learn Motif programming :)

also got gtk version but hmm current neko libs are not supported, thats why decided to build motif
excited and hoping for my first lil contribution for this wonderful community, wish me luck! hehe
:Octane: (Sakura) :O2: (Sasuke) :1600SW: (Naruto) ... lil Jesse! (O2 laptop)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
fu wrote: i wouldn't call it hell though.


how about: its a jungle out there? :D

yup! don't worry c-e, with your skill? at your age? i think you still go a distance ;)
after there, how about try here in Asia ;)

geeez envy your location tough.. love to smell deutschland again someday...
:Octane: (Sakura) :O2: (Sasuke) :1600SW: (Naruto) ... lil Jesse! (O2 laptop)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
Hi everyone! lately i'm tinkering with my O2's real strength? video :) and what i notice is when using media player, not all codec will use ICE when playing correct?

hmm most of my AVI's codec are not supported by media player, and mplayer is horrible with my low spec toaster, so is there a software for Win or Linux, to convert my AVI to a sgimv, or JPEG or Motion JPEGA (codec names accorind to dmconvert -D)
i already tried ffmepg and mencoder? but no success, still media player or dmconvert will say unsupported image compression :(

i know im going the opposite way here hehe but just want to try to watch a movie in full screen using my O2 and its 1600W display :)
:Octane: (Sakura) :O2: (Sasuke) :1600SW: (Naruto) ... lil Jesse! (O2 laptop)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
hehe the fun is tempting, ok here is mine, 4 years younger.. wannabe Kakashi in the office :)
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:Octane: (Sakura) :O2: (Sasuke) :1600SW: (Naruto) ... lil Jesse! (O2 laptop)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
Hi everyone :) Just want to ask if anyone encountered such damage and was able to fix it manually? Do you think this is still repairable? or just buy a replacement? this was the reason why i revived an old Indy presenter post :(
:Octane: (Sakura) :O2: (Sasuke) :1600SW: (Naruto) ... lil Jesse! (O2 laptop)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
thanks smj! yeah that's my plan A now :) but just tried my luck here maybe someone did a miracle on recovering a busted LCD like this :) na ja, hope could find a replacement soon.. if not then proceed with plan B, use todays LCD and connect through VGA.. :)
:Octane: (Sakura) :O2: (Sasuke) :1600SW: (Naruto) ... lil Jesse! (O2 laptop)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
duck wrote: I seriously doubt that's fixable, it looks like the LCD pane has been cracked...

yeah also think so.. im now trying to remove it and bring it to some local shop to find a replacement coz as what the original owner said, this was a custom made LCD 15 years ago :)

porter wrote: Have you tried taking it to a windscreen repairer? :)

hahaha thanks porter! you made my day hehehe
:Octane: (Sakura) :O2: (Sasuke) :1600SW: (Naruto) ... lil Jesse! (O2 laptop)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
wow! congrats duck! you're great hehe wish i had that same case but looking at these pictures really is a spielverderber :(

:Octane: (Sakura) :O2: (Sasuke) :1600SW: (Naruto) ... lil Jesse! (O2 laptop)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
recondas wrote: geo posted a very interesting photo of what appears to be a laptop running IRIX.....
lcd.JPG
....so geo, is that one of the Linux-based 5dwm clones, or is the jumboprawn O2 laptop in China?


hahahaha at last! sharp eye there recondas hehehe sorry for hiding it for a while coz i want to reveal it until i can fix the busted LCD :(

yes! this was an early Christmas gift from Jesse Newcomb! the maker for jumboprawn O2 hehe he really is great guy, he even gave me just recently a two spare of the LCD and arrived last Friday here but didn't have the time yet to mount it maybe later? but good thing it survived the trip, thanks to his packaging technique :)

what stun me at first was this system even with less RAM compared to my O2 desktop? it really booted faster! i think he tweak something coz he mentioned they did something to run some cool stuff just for the demo presentation? na ja, really lucky me hehe i even got a spare PCB and and necessary components to build this lil fella, i guess can try to make another one here :) only thing missing is it doesn't have a battery pack, coz they don't have enough time.. so i think its for me to finish then :)
:Octane: (Sakura) :O2: (Sasuke) :1600SW: (Naruto) ... lil Jesse! (O2 laptop)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
recondas wrote: Congratulations!

Considering that an working SGI laptop is at least a contender for the ranking of most mythical and/or collectable SGI system (n)ever produced, I'm sure some detailed photos along with an hinv post would be highly appreciated.

All the better if you currently have it disassembled, don't know that any detailed inside-the-case photos have ever been published.


thanks! hehe ok as soon as i can assemble this again ill post the details ;) but geeez just recently i tried the two LCD panels? i only got lines while booting :( my next plan is to remove the LCD crystal from the spare and put it on the LCD board of the original maybe the circuit is different? i hope it will work :( if not then i need to hunt for a Presenter coz Jesse said its exactly the same as the Presenter, these LCDs i got are fresh made from Japan and i think its still Engineering samples at that time hmm

ok i took some pictures while asking help form Jesse during the disassembling, will post everything soon but here is one just for preview ;)

:Octane: (Sakura) :O2: (Sasuke) :1600SW: (Naruto) ... lil Jesse! (O2 laptop)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
update: ITS ALIVE! BWAHAHAHAH false alarm of two spare LCDs, just reseated the LCD adapter inside the main board then tada! perfect!!

hold your horses guys! pictures of running system coming soon :)
:Octane: (Sakura) :O2: (Sasuke) :1600SW: (Naruto) ... lil Jesse! (O2 laptop)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
hi everyone :)

hmmm was experementing a little with my O2 lately with image formats and this is what i notice.
.jpeg - loaded two halves at a time with a little delay which looks slow?
.sgi - loaded from bottom to top? or either way, with steps but a bit faster than jpeg
.pic - one time loading, very fast!

all formats uses the same picture with 1600x1024 resolution.

does it mean images using SOFTIMAGE format are fast to be rendered because it utilize the ICE? i thought JPEG should be faster coz O2 has a built-in for JPEGs? or its just for motion JPEG?

also, why did the native .sgi/.rgb format was slow compared to .pic from softimage?

sorry for this noob question :)

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:Octane: (Sakura) :O2: (Sasuke) :1600SW: (Naruto) ... lil Jesse! (O2 laptop)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
PymbleSoftware wrote:
Not exactly sure but .sgi files I think are uncompressed, Jpeg uses complex compression algorithms and I am not sure about .pic but maybe it uses some simple compression like run length encoding and therefore is quick to unpack. Maybe the code that unpacks the .pic file was better written than the others... Other images have different information density and compress by different amounts. A sample set of just one image is not a good dataset to make comparisons about. Something that is all one colour will compress remarkably and uncompress formats might lose but something really complex with lots of colours might favor uncompressed format more.


thanks PS! hmmm i see, and yes, .pic use rle as so as .sgi , they have this option :)
hmmm ok will put that on my todo list on compressed and complex algo comparison.

my purpose for this test is to find which things utilize the ICE of the O2, i use Ian's melting the ICE as reference :)

lets say if .pic was fast with imgview, is it safe to say if i compile a movie out of .pic images, it would be faster than a movie compose of jpegs or rgb images?

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:Octane: (Sakura) :O2: (Sasuke) :1600SW: (Naruto) ... lil Jesse! (O2 laptop)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
PymbleSoftware wrote:
Not sure of the question but probably faster as the sum of all parts equals the speed of the whole but then it probably depends on other things like how the images are combined, I don't have the source code and I am not even sure how it is meant to work.


hehe i found this nice link for reference http://paulbourke.net/dataformats/
geeez i check the dmconvert man and i really thought i can input compiled image files and output it to a movie file hehe
but actually it can do the other way, from movie file to image files... or does it both ways? geeez i hate being dumb hehe

but hmm if mjpeg consist of jpegs, is it possible to make one with .pic images?
i want to try to play a mjpeg movie but unfortunately i couldn't find a movie in that format. tried to find converter for WinXP but its output is not supported.

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:Octane: (Sakura) :O2: (Sasuke) :1600SW: (Naruto) ... lil Jesse! (O2 laptop)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
andyjpb wrote:
The O2 VICE was designed to process standard definition video in real time. If your images are bigger than this then it will take longer to decompress. From memory, the VICE supported MJPEG, h.261, and DV/DVCPRO. MJPEG is just a stream of frames, each individually compressed with JPEG.

In order to take advantage of VICE you need to use SGIs DM APIs. I seem to remember that not all the supplied SGI tools supported everything in every version but I might be mistaken. Check that the tools you are using take advantage of VICE when it's available.

You seem to have found Ian's "Melting the ICE" page which supports some of my recollections: he mentions that dmconvert doesn't always take full advantage of VICE but he doesn't mention DV/DVCPRO support.
However, it is mentioned here: http://www.futuretech.blinkenlights.nl/o2/2145.pdf


You may also want to have a look at:
+ http://www.futuretech.blinkenlights.nl/o2arch.html#ICE
+ http://www.futuretech.blinkenlights.nl/ice.html (Melting the ICE)
+ http://www.futuretech.blinkenlights.nl/o2/
+ viewtopic.php?f=16&t=15285
+ http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/tpl/cgi ... z&srch=ice
+ http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/O2#O2_Video_System

Regards,
@ndy


wow! thanks andy for this reply! :)
yes i check melting ICE by ian and i read this line:
"Here is a summary of those operations and actions which are accelerated by ICE (info supplied by Max Waterman of SGI):
- Selected image processing functions in imgview, imgworks, Photoshop, etc."

so hmm that's why i tried different fomrats of one picture maybe ICE will depend on file formats?
aha! i read one from the links you share:

" The default use of hardware acceleration is system dependent. On systems
with ICE hardware (O2), the default is to use hardware acceleration when
the movie is compatible with the hardware. On all other systems, the
default is not to use hardware acceleration."

ok2 will keep digging here, really thanks for the guide! :)

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:Octane: (Sakura) :O2: (Sasuke) :1600SW: (Naruto) ... lil Jesse! (O2 laptop)
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.“ – A. Einstein
andyjpb wrote:
Hi,
You might like to check out ffmpeg (I'm not sure what the builds for Windows are like). Be careful tho': to be useful with VICE you need to ensure that you use an SGI compatible version of MJPEG.

Have you got the AV card for your O2? If so it's probably easiest to plug a video source into that and capture it: that way it'll be in the correct format. (The VICE can encode MJPEG as well as decode it. I think there was both realtime encoding and decoding for a lot of the codecs, except DV which was never publically released; most DV comes in via IEEE1394 where it's already encoded.)


Regards,
@ndy


yes2 the one i tried use that ffmpeg library but i forgot where i installed it :( my PC is a mess hehe and yes i already tried many options? but all its MJPEG outputs is not SGI compatible :(

yes2 i have AV card and yes i already tried capture video from my VCR which was perfect! and indeed fast, i can feel that ICE was utilized :)

the reason why i dig about this is i want to make a converter in my PC side. Convert any movie file into a playable movie file in my O2 :) coz waaah most movies i downloaded to my O2 really slow or even will hang-up :( really strange i cannot play movies using mplayer.. mediaplayer only few files. even the avi's i got it will complain. i try the divx player by hmm forgot his name, also didn't work..

hehe so that's why i arrive to this noob limbo :)

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andyjpb wrote:
Hi,

geo wrote:
the reason why i dig about this is i want to make a converter in my PC side. Convert any movie file into a playable movie file in my O2 :) coz waaah most movies i downloaded to my O2 really slow or even will hang-up :( really strange i cannot play movies using mplayer.. mediaplayer only few files. even the avi's i got it will complain. i try the divx player by hmm forgot his name, also didn't work..


Ah... Now I understand more about your objectives. :-) Try encoding on the PC side to DV. I imagine that it'll be easier than working out the esoteric MJPEG options and the quality will be higher. If the disk on your O2 can sustain 4MB/s then VICE should be able to play that file in realtime. Lots of PC video editing software knows how to export in DV.


Regards,
@ndy

hehe my english grammar made it complicated hehe hmm ok ill try DV then, i got a software from Pinnacle maybe it have that option? will see :)

andyjpb wrote:
Hi,

PymbleSoftware wrote:
No I did not write that.


Oops... Sorry. I must have had an editor error.


Regards,
@ndy


haha sorry it was my fault, i modify the quotes coz i cant make it work the same as before? like highlighting just specific words then quote? hehe sorry



ok time to go home guys! tonight is the start of cold winter here in my location.. till tomorrow ciao!!
btw really thanks, many is learned ;)

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hamei wrote:
geo wrote:
tonight is the start of cold winter here in my location..

Yeah, it drops down below 70 sometimes ... :P


waaah hamei! whats up! how is it in your side? here is weird, suddenly weather looks like summer but only with cold winter breeze hehe this CNY ill go to Henan to my girls hometown ;) and christmas just here in shenzhen, ni na? (not sure if pinyen is right ^^)

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hamei wrote:
geo wrote:
... this CNY ill go to Henan to my girls hometown ;) and christmas just here in shenzhen ... ^^)

You realize if she's taking you to meet the parents then you're going to get married ? I'm serious. You should probably not do that unless you are willing to take her for life.

On this occasion I am not being humorous ... you are playing with fire.


ey hamei! thanks hehe but lets talk about this on email, contact you there ;)
waaah really cold down here.. i can imagine you up there!! hehehe

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yahoo!! thanks neko and good to know you're ok :)
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hehe reminds me of a friend of mine, sorry not SGI tho but still funny

while troubleshooting his PC, he disassemble it and assemble it only with basic components (motherboard, RAM, HD, CPU and PSU) it didn't power up.. while cursing and blaming the PSU fault, he found out later the other end of the power cable was not plugged on the outlet.. too late, already cursing the PSU :)
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hi! sorry to ask help on this, i already tried but i cannot get a nice resolution.

could someone help me make this gif that i attached to a 142x141 resolution? really thanks in advance :)

in case my attachment cannot be seen, this gif is a 44x43 rotating image of sgi cube and it has 36 frames

i hope its not to much to ask but if possible can you also make one in monochrome color?

really thanks in advance, after i finish this quick project for sgi, i will post a video and i think everyone will like one ;)

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geo wrote: to a 142x141 resolution

btw, please ignore this, only needed is width is less or equal to 144pixels, height is a value for proportional with width
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duck wrote: I whipped this one up in Maya. Seems like the RGBA tiff -> gif conversion didn't really get the alpha channel right...
sgicube.gif


36 frames, 144x144.


my God! didn't expect this immediate help, thanks duck!! you're the man!! hehe really thanks, ok will update you soon as i prepare this.

just a spoiler.. imagine your sgi cube logo on your sgi machine is not just a plastic badge, its a rotating image like this ;)
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duck wrote: Alright, I could put some more work into it and give you insanely high resolution images if you really want to do something with it other than like a forum avatar or something :-P


wow!! that would be great!! ok ill give you what display i will use so that you can consider these parameters

i use the SHARP TFT MemLCD, its just 1bit depth, its like e-paper but has a better resolution :)
i just use this to have low power consumption compared to colored TFT or OLED

really thanks duck! as soon as i can finish prototype, will upload a video
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duck wrote: Hmm, that's a bit more tricky, if it's 1bit you'll need some dithering to make it look any good, or can you take care of that?

hi duck! yes that's one obstacle i have, that's why i mentioned earlier if its ok if the images already in monochrome :) ah hehe sorry i guess i need your help on dithering :) really thanks in advance! actually you already did a lot for this, really appreciated :) but if you still have spare time, dithering is most welcome :)

duck wrote: Here's a new one:
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wow! thanks! i will load this to my board and will see

duck wrote: They're 144x144 since I guess it would be pointless to have larger images... Just ask if you want me to render larger.

this is perfect! no need larger coz my lcd is just 144x160 pixels hehe thanks duck! will keep you updated
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[[C|-|E]] wrote: I remember to accidentally plug a 125V computer PSU in a European 220V socket. The PSU was mounted in a SuperMicro dual Xeon Pentium III, very expensive at the moment, and it literally exploded (it was great because they did not install a fuse). I had to replace most of the components, substitute some tracks in the circuit and also the BIOS of the motherboard. Luckily, the computer resumed operation after this . There are many other horror histories because I am usually repairing old stuff but this was, by far, the worst.


hehe reminds me of my experience with a new Keithley Instrument from US. I thought our local engineer already adjusted it for 220V, so i plug it in, poof!! good thing there is internal fuse hehe so lucky me, just change the fuse and set it to correct input AC :)
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hi duck, already prepare the Flash ROM for all the images, almost done. But when I try to use the frames of your latest gif, when i use paint, it will automatically set the background to black, and when i convert the image to monochrome, the rendered cube is not so clear. so i guess i need to ask your help again with dithering? can you please help me make one with only 1bit deep color?
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Oskar45 wrote: According to various polls, about 85+% of Chinese do believe in God.

really? hmm i guess that "God" they believe is money ;)
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