The collected works of theinonen - Page 1

Linux is generally well supported on alphas.

I have Debian installed on my Alphaserver 4100 and it works very well.
Not knowing the exact model of the alphaserver I think that safest choice would be linux. It has support for more systems than BSD.

For a video card I recommend Elsa gloria synergy or some other Permedia based card. (Works great with linux or FreeBSD)

NetBSD is nice if your model is supported. X11 is supported only by few TGA cards.
porter wrote:
theinonen wrote: Not knowing the exact model of the alphaserver I think that safest choice would be linux. It has support for more systems than BSD.

I would be happy to debate that. I suggest you review the number of architectures NetBSD supports....

Systems = different alpha systems, not different architectures

Anyway, NetBSD should work on AS1200 since it is similar than AS4100.

FreeBSD works, but probably only in console. (X won't work on AS4100)
ramq wrote: It was me who told Ian about the problem.
It's no network error since we can reach the site, rather a misconfigured(?) Apache webserver that denys access to any webpage on that site.

Strange, works ok from Finland.
fzalfa wrote: In europe we had a complet PC in keyboard
it was the scheider EUROPC, circa 1990...

There was also Sinclair PC200, which had 8086 processor, CGA graphics and 512 kB memory.
nekonoko wrote:
As for customization, I'm probably going to install foam rubber grips on mine - just need to find a place that sells them.

If you are going to use water pipe, you could use pipe insulation for a hand grip.

You can find insulation, that is like foam rubber, and as it is meant to be used on water pipe it has the right diameter. Another plus point is that you can get everything from the same place.
What kind of Blue-Prints are you working with?

Do you require 3D CAD? Many 2D CAD programs have primitive 3D drawing tools for drawing in perspective and creating isometric views.
GeneratriX wrote:
theinonen wrote:
What kind of Blue-Prints are you working with?

Do you require 3D CAD? Many 2D CAD programs have primitive 3D drawing tools for drawing in perspective and creating isometric views.

Well... it is not as I require 3D CAD, it is just I feel more comfortable dealing with 3D primitives, you know. But hey, I guess I'm open to try something different if it works... so, what do you suggest?

I'm using Art Of Illusion and BlenderCAD to model some little CNC Machines, and al sort of electronic equipments for automation, and on a last case, audio.

I am using ProCAD+ on my Risc PC for making drawings. It is not free, and there are only RISC OS and Windows versions available. But it is low cost, has very good support from the author and has very powerful drawing tools.

One of my favourite tools is Isometric group copy. You can draw group of objects from top-down view and then copy it to Isometric perspective. After that you can use extrude to create similar objects like in your example picture.

I will create a little demonstration later in the weekend.
jan-jaap wrote:
sgtprobe wrote: the "Turbo Air" sticker.

It's not a sticker, it's a sheet of plastic. In the normal Fuel it's transparent.

In my regular Fuel it is also blue, and if I am not mistaken has also the turbo air sticker.

Will have to check, since it has been a while since I have opened or even used my Fuel.
IYONIX is no longer in production, but there is still A9Home.

My current RISC OS computers:

IYONIX (My main computer)
StrongARM RiscPC 287 MHz + Viewfinder
StrongARM RiscPC 233 MHz
Acorn A4000 (Upgraded to 4 Mb)
Ok here is one:

In the hot summer
Onyx warm, outside storm
Too bad, house will burn
I was bored, so I made another one.

This one is even worse:

The autumn night was windy,
When I met Cindy
Bitch was only interested of my Indy

Bought myself a Fuel,
Now life is much less cruel.
Good luck in your studies.

You seem to be a fan of Metal Gear Solid series. As an old MSX user, I must say that SD Snatcher is much better game than Metal Gear Solid.
foetz wrote: best kb i've ever used is the granite sgi.
touch, contact point, quality ... you name it. top-notch in every aspect.

I have a couple of those, that came with my Indys and indigo2.

In my opinion they are ok, but nothing special. Typing feel is a bit too soft for my taste. Best part in those are the long cords, handy if you have several computers in a room.

And that mouse is awful. You have to adjust mouse settings to get it almost usable in Linux.

Best keyboard I have used is a digital branded keyboard, that came with one of my alphaservers.
SAQ wrote:
I remember trying to put NT4 on a 2100 4/266 for interest. Looking back it doesn't seem like it was worth it.

I had NT4 Server running on my maxed out 2100 5/300, and I must say it worked pretty well. I used it to browse the web with Seamonkey, and remember that it was lightning fast but could crash with some sites.

Only problem is that the AlphaNT source website is not working at the time, so it is pretty difficult to find any programs or updates for it.
hamei wrote: hey, theinonen ! what's that in your avatar ? Looks mostly like a puppy, but not really, maybe some kind of kitten ? Or is it something rare and native to Finland ? Cute !

It is a dog puppy.

It is a 3 months old Pekingese, and it actually originates from China. Very cute, looks like a mix of cat and ape.
Veyron is just an overpriced Volkswagen, and has too much electronics for my taste. I wonder how much would the service costs be for it.

Ford GT is nice, but nothing special. I would rather see Ford making a new version of the Capri.

For fun I would buy something like Ariel Atom. At least it will not cost a fortune, and there would still be some money left for the hospital costs.

In my opinion handling and acceleration are more important than the top speed. Car that goes fast on straight road, but handles like a whale on dry land in the corners, is no fun to drive.
Dr. Dave wrote: Sure we're talking about the same Ford here? If you think this is just 'nice', hate to see what you think is awesome! LOL!

All Fords are nice.

....But this is a REAL drivers car:
I would not be too worried about it. You can change it if you do not like it. (Looks normal to me.)
jmd8800 wrote:
The BSDs are an option as i have never used any of the flavors much. I am looking for some sort of distributed computing effort such as boinc or (others welcome) once i get the kernel compiled for dual cpu. any suggestions on distributed computing efforts welcome.

when running single cpu in debian this machine drinks 240watts. i can only imagine what the meter will say when 2 are running.

There is no need to compile, unless you really want. Just install the SMP kernel, edit aboot.conf and you are ready to go.
There seems to be some issues with Debian on alpha. At least on my system many programs crash with no obvious reason. For example web browsers crash with most sites.

Fedora port for alpha works pretty well.
mattst88 wrote:
theinonen wrote:
Fedora port for alpha works pretty well.

Too bad it hasn't had an updated package since April.

Too bad there is no user friendly installer for Gentoo. I would love to install and try it, but everytime I look at the installation instructions it seems like too much work. After a long day at work it would be much more convenient to have a working base system with just a couple enter presses.

Are there any plans for a installer that would be more suitable to a lazy people like me, maybe something similar that NetBSD has?

By the way, how long it would take to have a fully working desktop installation of Gentoo on a ES40 with 3 x 833 MHz EV68 processors and 4GB RAM?

Still I would like to have more than one choice of Linux distribution for alpha. Having only one choice is comparable to an endangered animal. If there is more than one, there is still a chance. If there is only one, it may live for a some time but after that there is nothing left.
To me having only one choice sounds like communism. It did not work in Soviet Union, and is not working very well in any other place.
I have had several alphastations, and have not noticed anything model specific about them.

Nice price though, when you consider that:
- This one has only 32 MB RAM
- Graphics card looks like PowerStorm 3d30 (8-bit TGA2)
- Very slow by todays standards (EV45)
Do you have your keyboard on PS/2 or USB port?

If you have a USB keyboard, try PS/2 keyboard instead. Without keyboard it will default to serial console.
At least NT on alpha had some native software, unlike on PPC or MIPS.

Too bad native software for AlphaNT is pretty hard to find nowdays. I remember having versions of Word and Excel, there was also a very fast port of Seamonkey and also a port of Quake2. I should still have most of the stuff I had backed up to a DLT-tape somewhere.

NT on alpha is the fastest version of Windows I have used, and FX32! was actually not that bad.
josehill wrote:
I'd be very surprised if they did that. Adobe sells PS into the professional graphics market, and there really isn't significant customer demand for Linux workstations in that space. When Adobe made the SGI and Sun versions, there was a perceived market for systems with UNIX-levels of reliability in high end shops. It was the age of MacOS 7.x and Windows NT 3.x/4.x, which weren't always the most reliable system for production work. History suggests that there wasn't really that much of a market for Photoshop on *nix.

I must disagree on this.

Only thing that is holding Linux back from the professional market is the lack of professional software. I am sure, that with right software there would be plenty of users. The thing is that most people have been brainwashed to believe that if you don`t have workstation with an Apple logo on your desk, then you are somehow less pro. I personally see a huge market for cheap workstations with Linux installed. People who would buy them would be those who only care that the job gets done, not those that spend half day looking how beautiful their workstation is.
I would also suggest you try Excel again, plots like that should be easy to achieve. I am not a fan of Microsoft Office, but Excel is actually pretty decent program.
I think, that I will skip this one and wait for the competing products to arrive in the market. iPad is a little too "closed" system for my liking.

Meanwhile... I can always use Nintendo DSi to play with.
Has anyone played with these:

I am tempted to buy one to play with.
Very nice project.

I was actually looking some time ago, if there was similar software made for RISC OS and found this:
It may be of interest to someone, as there is Linux port and it might compile on Irix.
Frapazoid wrote:
Did you get one yet?

Not yet, but it is on the shopping list when my pockets are filled with money again.
Education is not a shortcut to happiness.

There is no point trying to make something interesting that is not allready interesting to that person. Not everybody has to be a rocket scientist. It is only good that we are all not highly educated, as we need someone to do the cleaning or to drive the garbage truck. Some people are satisfied with less and it is a good thing. Besides there is more than one kind of wisdom. Some you can learn from the books, some not. Things like creativity do not come from schoolbench.

In my opinion studying is similar to bodybuilding, good results are achieved only with repetition. You will not get big muscles just by going to gym and sitting there watching women do their stuff. And you learn nothing just by going to school and drawing pretty pictures in the desk. (Unless it is an artschool.)
It is too easy to blame parents or schools for everything, real answers are usually found on the mirror.

When born some people have better odds than others, but from there it is up to themself make the most of it and become the person they want to be. I was a bad student myself. Got mostly average grades, but I never really even bothered to open books at home. All I am saying is that, even the best teachers can not help if nobody cares what they have to say.
Getting those vector images to vector drawing programs is easy. Getting everything to layers is the tricky part. If there is no group information retained, it takes long time to group everything into objects and then to assign them to specific layers.

After a quick test I can say, that it can be done but is maybe too much work for drawings with that much detail.
bri3d wrote:
At least some grouping information is preserved - just watching one render in any standard PDF reader reveals that the shapes are z-ordered (back-to-front) so that the final image appears properly.

Unfortunately no.

I imported that PDF file to Artworks 2 and there are no real groups, only the order of the shapes is preserved.
These vector images must have been made in some 3d-modelling software, as they could have been drawn much simpler in a 2d app and as such are not very suitable for editing.

For example if you look the picture below, you see that top of that Tezro case is made of 9 different shapes, when that same could have been achieved with only 3 shapes. And if you look at the bottom menu you see something like 8652 objects in the foreground. I believe it would take a superhuman effort to group all of those and put them to layers.

One method would be to put everything into a magnetic layer, and then use snaps to draw a simpler image on top of the old one.
Those are really nice. I specially like how you did logos and text on the cases, I never would have enough patience for that.

Pontus wrote:
modology wrote:
it's not easy to convert it to SVG since I made everything in Photoshop

I thought so, just curious :)

If you are willing to sacrifice some detail, then turning those images to vector drawings is pretty straightforward. Here is my quick and sad attempt for example. (Yes, I chose the easiest one, and the text on the case is done with a font that looks close enough.)
hamei wrote:
modology wrote:
I've been wishing that someone can build a new version of Inkscape for IRIX ...

I have been wishing that someone would fix Inkscape, period. Crashes on everything it's supposed to run on, hasn't been touched in years. Maybe some of the people who are so excited about getting Linux running on SGI hardware could do something useful for a change ...

I have found that most open source Linux programs are like that. They seem like a great idea on the web page, but as soon you download them and start using them, you realize that something is horribly wrong. Maybe that is because they are made by programmers without the help of the people who are actually going to use the program.

Somewhere in the process usability is forgotten. Truth is, you are not going to make any masterpiece if you are not comfortable working with the program. Blender is a good example of this. It may be a very capable program, but has a user interface similar to more than 10 years old Amiga programs.

I can not say anything about the Inkscape though, maybe I should try it out and see if it is any good.
I have been trying to learn some new graphics programs for the past 2 days, so I may as well contribute to this thread.

Here comes the purple toaster...
modology wrote:
Nice one. I guess u were using riscPc vector software to draw it?

I used Artworks and Composition on RISC OS for that image. That vector drawing of O2+ is actually very simple. Most of the shading was added afterwards with the help of composition.
Biggest difference in doing traditional 3d-modelling and CAD work is, that in CAD you have to have some knowledge how things really work, as the things you are doing also have to work in real life. Where as in 3d-modelling you are only creating an illusion of something working. I would also claim that CAD-design work needs a proper education, while the 3d-modelling stuff can be learned by just doing the stuff.

While I agree, that it is good to focus in one area of work, I also believe that it is good to start as generalist. That way you know more about the whole work process and in general are much easier person to work with.