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I have a Fujitsu Primergy XEON TX100 S1 , 8GB RAM, 3TB Raided drive and I've decide to install this tonight.

So first, I need a LINUX OS.. Is Fedora the choice? Debian was mentioned?

I will start by downloading Fedora25.
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Darn it.. bad start to a project then.. not only did I have to go up the shed (in the cold dark, winter, leaf covered garden) and get my blank CDs/DVDs.. I've now downloaded 25 and burning..

Ah well.. I will see how it goes.

[EDIT] Dead before it left the ground.. DVD wont eject even with the assistance of a screwdriver!!! Another day maybe. :(
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Currently doing a net install remotely at work, I think one at a time is enough, I will obtain a new DVD tomorrow.
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The thing is as well, I have so many things to do, that I just shouldn't be even doing it, but you know what it's like, you come home, see a machine sat there unplugged and think .. "I'm going to do it tonight" I am the worst person for time management!
I have a three part project for a windows suite to be beta at the end of November, APP, Service & Web Front end.. So far I have achieved a login, and a fancy trend graph on the app.. BUT it's sooo boring compared to net installs and my SGI stuff. On the plus side, my newest FUEL has a very nice install of 6.5.19 that's going very nice and will be a net install server.
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Does anyone have any experience with these. It's something I have never even looked at before , but considering I have a massive amount of space on a fibre array and have had to remove 7 of the 9 disks due to restrictions with StoneFS (no point running 9 disks worth of electricity if you can only use 2, I'm wondering if this would be a better option.

Yes I'd need FC cards for any other client of the switch but that's no problem. I will guess though that if I bought the faster switches, it would be backward compatible with the slower speeds of the FC in my octane etc?

To summarize, I know nothing about these switches.

Anyone have experiences using FC Switches with SGI et al ?
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jan-jaap wrote: I've used SAN switches with my SGIs for years. Currently I'm using a Brocade 5000, a 32 port 4Gb switch.

The simple FC case is 1 host to 1 simple JBOD array. It's called FC-AL. This is your average Discreet setup. The advantage of FC here over SCSI is IMHO the use of fibre which means the array can be far away :)

A SAN shares storage between multiple hosts, but this storage is a SAN server, not a JBOD. A SAN server can configure volumes and share them out to hosts, among many may other things.

A SAN switch has more capabilities than most ethernet switches, it can also configure who gets to talk to who etc. Depending on your switch and it's licensed features you can trunk ports, route FC over ethernet to a remote site etc etc.

A couple of things to keep in mind:
1. SAN switches are usually 1U and can be unbelievably loud. I used to have a Brocade 2Gb switch which was totally unbearable.
2. Most switches in the 4Gb generation have for example 16 or 32 ports, but half of them won't work unless you but a license to enable them. Newer switches also won't accept just any GBICs, but require the expensive ones of the original vendor. If the password to the switch and the it's bootrom are unknown you'll need the manufacturer to unlock it and they won't do it unless you get a service contract first.
3. SAN servers are the same: you may find one which takes SATA disks in brackets with FC-SATA adapters, but the adapters only talk to half a dozen types of SATA disks, now 10 years old and impossible to find. They require licenses for interesting features (snapshots, replication, ...).

If you want to get into SAN hardware you should read a book first to get the concepts.

jan-jaap, that's highly informative, thanks.
I did notice on ebay there were many that said for example, 16 port, 8 active, which is obviously a licencing restriction.
In my case the switch would connected to Sun StorEdge T3 + possibly 2 or 3 clients. My Discreet Octane is currently connected directly to the T3.

Cheers
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Awesome!!

Noisy?
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Nice one jpstewart, and in particular the backwards compatibility statements. I may have got stung on that one.
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Solaris ended with version 10 as far as I am concerned.
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After I had cleaned up my systems, I decide to put some software back on. The last few days it's been Softimage. I'd always liked Softimage, I'm unsure how it stood against Maya, was it better or worse? Who knew? But I had experience with maya, so sort of knew some basics. Softimage though is alien to me. I can't even make a polygon, but it does look cool, even the versions I have.

After completing the install and getting things nice, I thought, I know what I need, a simplistic basic, dumb ass starter guide. Not like the one referenced on this site, that seemed rather fast and furious for myself.

Rather than just ask on here I googled and found not what I was looking for, BUT that some shit is going down (or went down last year).

I may be somewhat late.. but..

Softimage is no longer being sold or supported and you are encouraged to move to 3DS or Maya.. (did I miss a massive thread on here)?

I could download a free version if I were a student.. I am .. so I did, a Linux version.. 2015 version, yet to install it on my parents PC (see some other bizarre ranting thread of mine).

I still don't know how to use the fscking thing!

So, anyone know of any really basic Softimage guides?
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robespierre wrote: I linked a 1hr video in this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=16730776#p7390837

Maybe it misses some of the most basic things like how the displayports and the mouse works.

Hey Robespierre, this is the one I found on here before. Just not basic enough for a dumb ass like myself.

Years ago I purchased a book on Maya, many of you may have it (I know one ex-forum member had it), can't recall the name, but it had a walk through on how to create a rocket that launched into space and fell back down to the ground. I learnt so much from that chapter alone, and that's the sort of thing I am after.
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foetz wrote: first of all you'd have to tell us which softimage you wanna use: the classic one called "3D" or the second generation one called "XSI"?
the one you got from autodesk is XSI, they just ditched the 3 letters some years ago

I'd like to use the 3D version that's on the SGI, it's version 4.0.
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SiliconClassics wrote: There's an Anthony Rossano book called "Inside Softimage 3D" that was published by New Riders in 1998 - it's probably the best introduction to Soft|3D outside of the original manuals, and it's fun to skim because it's filled with full-color illustrations. You can buy it on eBay for $5.

I think I have this book already, bought it years ago, never read it, and now can't find it, but I know I have it.
Did though go to amazon.. £155 :shock:
Then googled, found a link to Amazon for £4 :? What gives?

Anyway, I'll find the book if you think it's a good read.

[Edit] Found this site also http://www.edharriss.com/tutorials/tutorials_model_3d.html
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foetz wrote:
uunix wrote: I'll find the book if you think it's a good read.

it definitely is. it is the softimage book


Found :D Knew I had it.

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Excellent find, comparing it to a metal detectorist finding an ancient roman coin. Sweet!
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and then it got lost in the post..
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astouffer wrote: I'm trying to install the xlc 13.1.3 compiler demo on my AIX 7.1 box but its failing over a pre requisite package.

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MISSING REQUISITES:  The following filesets are required by one or more
of the selected filesets listed above.  They are not currently installed
and could not be found on the installation media.

bos.adt.libm 6.1.2.1                      # Fileset Update


The package bos.adt.libm is part of bos.rte.install.7.1.4.30. I downloaded and installed this package but still no go for xlc. It looks like the right
Any ideas?
packages are installed. The version listed above isn't even for my version of AIX.

Checking the original AIX install CD I see:

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bos.adt.lib                7.1.0.0    C     F    Base Application Development
Libraries
bos.adt.libm               7.1.0.0    C     F    Base Application Development
Math Library
bos.adt.libmio             7.1.0.0    C     F    Modular IO Library


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bos.adt                                                            ALL
@ 7.1.0.0  Base Application Development Debuggers
@ 7.1.0.0  Base Application Development Graphics Include Files
@ 7.1.0.1  Base Application Development Include Files
@ 7.1.0.0  Base Application Development Libraries
@ 7.1.0.0  Base Application Development Math Library
@ 7.1.0.0  Base Application Development Toolkit
@ 7.1.0.0  Base Application Development Toolkit Data
@ 7.1.0.0  Base Application Development Utilities - lex and yacc
@ 7.1.0.0  Base Operating System Samples
@ 7.1.0.1  Base Profiling Support
@ 7.1.0.0  Modular IO Library
@ 7.1.0.0  Printer Support Development Toolkit
@ 7.1.0.0  SCCS Application Development Toolkit
@ 7.1.0.1  System Calls Application Development Toolkit
@ 7.1.0.0  Tool to Create installp Packages

bos.adt is located on Disk 1 of the AIX install disk.


Looking at what is installed (post xlC install)

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# lslpp -l|grep -i bos.adt
bos.adt.base              7.1.4.30  COMMITTED  Base Application Development
bos.adt.include           7.1.4.30  COMMITTED  Base Application Development
bos.adt.lib               7.1.2.15  COMMITTED  Base Application Development
bos.adt.base              7.1.4.30  COMMITTED  Base Application Development



My AIX install was a fresh install some years ago, as opposed to updating from 5 or 6, unsure if this makes any difference.
Hope this helps in some way.
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Unsure if this is helpful, but my installed xlC is 13.1.0.0

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xlCcmp.13.1.0             13.1.0.0    C     F    XL C++ compiler
xlCcmp.13.1.0.bundle      13.1.0.0    C     F    XL C++ media defined bundles
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I'm not knocking the OP, since we all do it (I'm massively guilty), but if you don't know the current CPU, don't get excited about upgrading it since it could be the fastest CPU on the planet, otherwise you will have no money left, actually if you get the buzz, you can wave goodbye to all your money anyway.

You won't get far without either a keyboard/monitor or a serial cable and if it doesn't boot you are going to have issues finding it on any network.

Stay calm and drink some tea.. oh and congrats on your first SGI or should I say 'Silicon Graphics.' Don't be afraid to PM people if you have questions or need something to any members if you feel shy putting it out in the open, even though most of us are nice, it can still seem a little embarrassing asking simple questions..

Also massive advice if it your first UNIX type machine, don't start taking things apart or plugging cables and crap in until you are sure what you are doing.

One of my first UNIX box was a sun VME thingy and I plugged some cabling into the AUI ports and blew all sorts of things..
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itsvince725 wrote: I just got an Indigo2 but it's missing a few things I'd really like to have, namely a storage disk and matching sled, an optical drive, and a 13W3 to VGA adapter so I can run it off my multi-sync monitor. I honestly don't need a SCSI disk itself as much as I need the sled for one, but I definitely need the optical drive and monitor adapter. A mouse and keyboard would be nice too, but not as necessary since the Indigo2 uses PS/2 connectors.

Thanks!

Are these things 50 pin? Well, just ensure you choose your size well, 2GB leaves little for the imagination if you go 6.5.22 (I think that's you max?).
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Listening to the Kinks and not doing what I only have 5 days left to do..

I did spend the evening playing on my new G7000 Videopac with my son this afternoon.. nostalgia is a terrible thing..
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commodorejohn wrote: Writing an SDL rotozoomer with support for per-line rotation/scale/offset parameters so I can do SNES RPG-style tilted-plane map effects without having to dig into OpenGL. Already did a proof-of-concept version in FreeBasic, but it was slow as shit because I didn't make any meaningful attempt to optimize on even the algorithmic level. Hopefully the end result here will be a hell of a lot faster.

I'm unsure how pointless that is commodorejohn, it sounds like you have found a planet we can all live on and is rather fantastic!
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itsvince725 wrote: I suppose I'll have to get two disks then, the system disk currently in there is only 1GB.

I have found some drives on eBay of decent capacity for relatively low prices ($59 for a 73GB drive pre-loaded with IRIX 6.5.22 and some other software) but I'd like to get a second sled...

I think roughly install standard is over a GB ?? on 6.5.22. Mind you I say that, but I install from a network dist which has a bundle of stuff.

This was a question I was going to raise but like me, I never got round to it.

SUN allowed you to create a complete system partition over many disk at the point of install. Can we do that?
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Interesting read Mr Fox, and something I wonder about a lot of the day.

But my question, and the basis of the question is that I own a Power5 9111 285 (only 1 CPU and 1GB Memory), is, you mention that below Power 7/8 the earlier models will become obsolete?

Is it an OS support you are talking here? App support? I'm currently running AIX 7.1 and I have spent no money on it all, but would think it would be my best bet to break free if I chose.
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Y888099 wrote: eye and a leg

Arm and a leg old chap.
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Wooo Ahhh now that's an Arm and a Leg..$US19,500.
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sshhhhh 8-)
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spiroyster wrote: ahh sheet, sorry mate. :oops:

What are the chances... thing looks fooked anyway. Sellers a crook. nothing to see here peeps. 8-)

LOL Chap.. it's fine, I haven't even got a PRISM yet. You are right though, coincidence or what, I was just searching for terms that would suggest a seller passingly didn't know what they were selling which led me to a few other searches and then I found it, but not searching for DVS.
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Well I won the one of eBay for a nice £20, hopefully it's a DM6, but we all suspect it's a DM12.

I'll plug it in a FUEL when it arrives and see if anything gets recognized.

Otherwise I'm on the look out for a desk side PRISM.
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jan-jaap wrote:
vishnu wrote: SGI jumped the shark when it dropped MIPS, just say no to all things SGI on Intel/Linux... ;)

I chose to limit myself to their MIPS/IRIX range. You've got to draw the line somewhere if you don't want to become the computer equivalent of the crazy cat lady, and this is where I drew my line. I might make an exception for an IRIS 3130 but chances of that happening are slim.

I am a crazy cat person! I've owned VW320 VW540 in the past..
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spiroyster wrote: Talk about stereotyping. As a proud 540/320 owner I take offence to being lumped in the same camp as Itanium!

just cuz it got 'intel inside' don't make us all the same ya know. :roll:

Well, I can't go into finite details on this.. but 'intel inside..' means intel inside.. :mrgreen:
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It does look very 'Saturday Kitchen' Jimmer..
[One does hope the reference to Saturday Kitchen was not an insult, I could change it to Sunday Brunch]
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So some time back I brought a single 300MHz Octane with V8 from chickenue.
Well thanks to jmc, it has been upgraded today.

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OCTANE03 1# hinv -v
2 600 MHZ IP30 Processors
Heart ASIC: Revision F
CPU: MIPS R14000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.4
FPU: MIPS R14010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 0.0
Main memory size: 1024 Mbytes
Xbow ASIC: Revision 1.4
Instruction cache size: 32 Kbytes
Data cache size: 32 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 2 Mbytes
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version QL1040B (rev. 2), single ended
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 1)
Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 2)
Disk drive: unit 3 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 3)
Integral SCSI controller 1: Version QL1040B (rev. 2), single ended
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty1
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty2
IOC3 parallel port: plp1
Graphics board: V12
Integral Fast Ethernet: ef0, version 1, pci 2
Iris Audio Processor: version RAD revision 12.0, number 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0003) PCI slot 2
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1020) PCI slot 0
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1020) PCI slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0005) PCI slot 3
Dual Channel Display


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OCTANE03 2# /usr/gfx/gfxinfo
Graphics board 0 is "ODYSSEY" graphics.
Managed (":0.0") 1280x1024
BUZZ version B.1
PB&J version 1
128MB memory
Banks: 4, CAS latency: 3
Monitor 0 type: Unknown
Dual Channel Display option
Monitor 1 type: Unknown         Monitor 2 type: Unknown
Channel 0:
Origin = (0,0)
Video Output: 1280 pixels, 1024 lines, 60.00Hz (1280x1024_60)


Monday, I have another upgrade to an Octane2 with 1.3 XBOW with some interesting stuff.
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Picked up the card I won on ebay today (card mentioned by OP).
Plugged it into a FUEL and it's not recognized at all, so I will have to wait for a Prism, I suppose it could of course be faulty.
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recondas wrote: Not recognized at probably excludes the possibility it appeared in the "PCI Adpater ID" section of an hinv -vm or in the output of a run against the L1 PCI command. On the odd chance it made an appearance in either location (and the even less likely possibility you haven't already btdt), it might be interesting to try again with the DVS software development kit.

If you don't already have it, devv was kind enough to link the DVS SDK in this thread .
devv wrote: DVS has kindly provided a link to file named sdk2.7p28.tar.Z.

I believe this filename "sdk2.7p28.tar.Z" is more correct than "sdio-sdk2.7p28.tar.gz" (the filename that was previously reported in the forums) because this SDK seems to have support for SDStationOEM, HDStationOEM and Centaurus boards.
(All three are PCI-X boards, and according to http://web.archive.org/web/201604131846 ... chive.html , Centaurus combines the features of SDBoard and HDBoard).

The top of the SDK README states "This is a combined Beta SDK release for SDBoard / Centaurus".
Probably a long shot, but the photos the OP posted of the board appear to match the "Centaurus" photo in the archive.org copy of DVS page devv linked in his post. There's an even better resolution photo of the board in the DVS Centaurus pdf file.


I had another attempt today, but no joy, drivers installed, but not showing.
It does though show something on PCI 5

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PCI Adapter ID (vendor 4165, device 51297) pci slot 5

But that's it. It is definitely a DM12.
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So this machine was a pretty bog standard Octane2 with a 1.3 XBOW. The skins are a bit shabby though I must admit.
Added Digital Video, Fibre Channel (awaiting connectors) and EMXI Graphics, and a new motherboard, since the PS/2 connectors were slack/loose on the old one. This also has a floppy in it.
Hinv

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OCTANE02 2# hinv -vm
Location: /hw/node
PM20 Board: barcode GGB217     part 030-0890-003 rev  H
Location: /hw/node/xtalk/15
IP30 Board: barcode HXY928     part 030-1467-001 rev  B
Location: /hw/node/xtalk/15/pci/2
FP1 Board: barcode 42452C     part 030-0891-003 rev  E
PWR.SPPLY.ER Board: barcode AAE9160539 part 060-0035-002 rev  A
Location: /hw/node/xtalk/12
MOT20 Board: barcode HPC357     part 030-1240-003 rev  E
Location: /hw/node/xtalk/11
GALILEO15 Board: barcode HLX484     part 030-0931-004 rev  C
Location: /hw/node/xtalk/9
FIBRE_CHANNEL Board: barcode HPB031     part 030-0927-003 rev  D
2 195 MHZ IP30 Processors
Heart ASIC: Revision F
CPU: MIPS R10000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.7
FPU: MIPS R10010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 0.0
Main memory size: 1024 Mbytes
Xbow ASIC: Revision 1.3
Instruction cache size: 32 Kbytes
Data cache size: 32 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version QL1040B (rev. 2), single ended
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 1)
Disk drive / removable media: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0: 720K/1.44M floppy
Disk drive: unit 3 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 3)
Integral SCSI controller 1: Version QL1040B (rev. 2), single ended
Integral SCSI controller 2: Version Fibre Channel AIC-1160, revision 2
Integral SCSI controller 3: Version Fibre Channel AIC-1160, revision 2
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty1
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty2
IOC3 parallel port: plp1
Graphics board: EMXI
Integral Fast Ethernet: ef0, version 1, pci 2
Iris Audio Processor: version RAD revision 12.0, number 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0003) PCI slot 2
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1020) PCI slot 0
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1020) PCI slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0005) PCI slot 3
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x9004, device 0x1160) PCI slot 0
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x9004, device 0x1160) PCI slot 1
Digital Video: unit 1, revision 5.2, TMI: revision 2, CSC: revision 1

GFXINFO

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OCTANE02 3# /usr/gfx/gfxinfo
Graphics board 0 is "IMPACTSR" graphics.
Managed (":0.0") 1280x1024
Product ID 0x3, 2 GEs, 2 REs, 4 TRAMs
MGRAS revision 4, RA revision 0
HQ rev B, GE12 rev A, RE4 rev C, PP1 rev E,
VC3 rev A, CMAP rev E, Heart rev F
unknown, assuming 19" monitor (id 0x9)
Video board present

Channel 0:
Origin = (0,0)
Video Output: 1280 pixels, 1024 lines, 72.24Hz (1280x1024_72)
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World domination.

I've actually only got three working Octanes, it's my build up of o2's that I'm worried about. I seem to be attracting those rather rapidly (6 at last count).
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vishnu wrote:
uunix wrote: I had another attempt today, but no joy, drivers installed, but not showing.
It does though show something on PCI 5

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PCI Adapter ID (vendor 4165, device 51297) pci slot 5

But that's it. It is definitely a DM12.


smj has one of those! He references it in this post: http://forums.nekochan.net/viewtopic.php?t=16724548

That's the same vendor and device.. :shock:
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I have an Origin 200 with Dalim, but I've never looked at it as yet.
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Of course you don't have too.. it's you own business.. BUT..

When people come round your house and say.. 'wow .. what do you do with that stuff?' [Your' SGI gear]

What do you say?

I like to call it 'my dark side.'
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miod wrote:
uunix wrote: Of course you don't have too.. it's you own business.. BUT..

When people come round your house and say.. 'wow .. what do you do with that stuff?' [Your' SGI gear]

What do you say?

I like to call it 'my dark side.'

Well, the obvious reason is ``in case the furnace breaks''. Might not work if you're living in Florida or snowless areas, though :mrgreen:

You are not far wrong there miod, I work in the conservatory, and it's either freezing or like a furnace.. no in-between, and yes, some days I turn the whole lot on to heat me up.
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