The collected works of uunix - Page 14

MrBill wrote:

uunix wrote: Short for time? Dinosaur's seconds away from breaking down the door..? An operating system you know..? but only by flavour..? What you need is FSN.. The WORLDS slowest way to navigate a file system.. lucky there was a directory named security!

Not sure how hard it would be to build on irix, but there was some similar program called FSV i compiled on debian a few years back. that might be something interesting. Might be too big of a challenge for myself right off the bat though. Not a programmer and it looks to have a bunch of odd dependencies.

http://fsv.sourceforge.net/

Would it help in a dinosaur attack?

OK so this is what happens..
Woman runs to SGI and moves mouse.. not locked, just screen saver on.. (system had been reset.. but who logged on? and if it still had the fat mans login, surley it would password protected)..
Next clip she runs to the door to help Sam Neil, as she leaves, FSN is starting up (running). Taking into account that it was not running when she moved the mouse or pressed a key. But it could have been in the icon view at the top. It does look like she moves the mouse to start the app. FSN is defiantly at root level when she leaves the desk.
Along comes young Unix wizard..
Young girls states she 'knows unix'
Looks like 200 files/folders in FSN
She navigates to directory PARK
Then I think Zoology then Security.. which appears to be .Security
Then some porn appears.. then this

The porn btw.. looked like she must have KVM'd to mac...

Swapped the CD drive for a SUN DVD Drive and was going to put a DAT72 drive in.. but then there was a dilemma.. The colour of the Sun was a grey type and the DAT was black.. that's just not cricket old chap. Then there was cable connection.. well not an issue really, since I have all SCSI types inside.. so the result was..

I fitted a SUN DDS3 Tape (also sun grey).. which is a bit pants, but 12GB of grey tape looks better than 36GB of black.. (I think I'll get a SUN LTO or similar in the future.).

I've used tape wherever I have worked and found them to be 100% reliable. Never used DVD/CD and I have had a few issues with Disk drives.
MY tape backups here get stored at work, and work get stored here. All backup tapes are encrypted with passwords, although this wasn't the case in the early days using NT Backup.

recondas wrote: uunix if you haven't already seen the thread, another interesting parlor trick supported by the Fuel is IIDC or AV/C video or Compact Flash card access via Firewire .

That sir looks an excellent thread, not so much for the firewire etc (at least not now), but for the DM2 in my Octane. Thank You.

JEEEEEZE.. ASTON VILLA HAVE WON A GAME!!!!!!

Excellent, I hope I never need one, but it's good to know it exists. Good Show kuba

Well, currently I'm trying to save a program (ie cassette - audio in) to my indy via soundeditor and then reload it back into my MSX.
The recording works fine, and I can relive the wonders of the 1980's but having difficulty reloading it back.

What other pointless things are you doing?

We used to use a product called MUMPS (database type language) on HP years back, I have a zillion DDS 3 (or 4) tapes for them in the shed. I don't know if MUMPS still exists, I suppose it must as it was used in a lot of hospitals over here.

I'll have to have a look at the copyright and if I can get anything off the tapes.

Tonight I'd like to start a quest to build PostgreSQL 9.5 (latest) on IRIX.

Apart from the fact it may be a task and half, MIPSpro won't cope, need a new GCC or another million reasons.. to save me re-inventing the wheel or attempting something that will never work, does anyone have any experience or knowledge that this is a brick wall?

Thanks dexter, I've compiled a few things in the past on IRIX but I've never tried to break new boundaries.

So far, first issue was no template (it hasn't been ported to your platform), so I just went through a few of the templates already there and all failed at the same point.. unsafe threading (not sure it is a template thing?).
So a fairly successful configure was ./configure --with-template=hpux --disable-thread-safety. Maybe, I do need a template for IRIX, but will see.
I'm not sure what the impact of this will be later on. Anyway..
So at that point I was able to do a make, but noticed loads of errors regarding c99 headers.. so I guess MIPSpro is out the question. My gcc is 3.4.6, so I'm just going to install 4.7.1 and start the ball rolling again.

I'll keep you informed of my journey.

foetz wrote:

uunix wrote: Tonight I'd like to start a quest to build PostgreSQL 9.5 (latest) on IRIX.

don't. it's the first 9.5 release and it's never wise to jump on the first release of whatever software.

anyway i've built 9.4.1 ( viewtopic.php?p=7376282#p7376282 ) with mipspro last year. a few quirks aside there were no significant problems. the issues i ran into were caused by irix in general and not mipspro so gcc wouldn't have made a difference there.

That's perfect foetz and you're right about avoiding first builds, but to be honest I thought if I can build the latest, then earlier releases should be do-able also. I didn't think it had been done and I see you have done a lot of work on other stuff. I never even knew that directory existed.

Did you run into the Thread-Safe issue? if you did, did you disable it or sort it and if you did disable it, did you get racing threads?

Nice one though, many many thanks.

Once again, thanks foets, you have saved me loads of time, although I may still look at doing it myself in the future just for the experience, but for now, 9.4.x is perfect.

Now saying that, once everything is in place and I have initialized the DB with initdb I then cannot start it using pg_ctl (cannot successfully map libpq.so.5) which points to libpq.so.5.7

The database starts fine with postgres -D /foo/bar/data and I can connect etc remotely no problem.

So I copied libpq.so.5 over the existing link and get a different message... unresolvable symbol in ./pg_ctl: PQping not as harsh as the original message and it's at least finding it. So then I copied libpq.so.5.7 to libpq.so.5 and get the same message.

It's a pain not having pg_ctl but certainly not the end of the world.

Interestingly I searched this site for libpq.so.5 and got 60292 results.

foetz wrote: just make sure the pgsql libs are in your LD_LIBRARYN32_PATH and the symbols problems should be dealt with.

Sorted

Trippynet wrote: Right now I should be working on an important presentation for work next week. However instead, I'm attempting to recover the bloody data RAID array in my PC which has failed. Seems one drive has packed in, and the other switched to offline. Booting into Windows to be told that your primary data drive is offline is not nice.

Managed to get the working drive back online, and am now doing an emergency backup of my most important data from it. I did have a backup already, but it's a fair few months old, and losing several sets of holiday photos (plus other important work) isn't part of the plan.

Then I guess I have to replace the dead drive next week and enjoy my PC grinding for about 6 hours whilst it re-builds the array.

All this happened when I was in the middle of replacing the system drive in my Mac Mini and working out how to clone the contents of my old one across. So right now my office is a mess of hard drives, dis-assembled computers, USB to SATA adapters and the likes.

Fun and games

How did you get on chap?

Trippynet wrote: Given that there's a copy of it in Nekoware current, I'd say it's very possible to port it

Sounds like a good idea.. I always wanted to get to grips with the big blue mainframe emulator I had years ago..

Eating a Fray Bentos Steak, Pie reading Trippynets struggle and listening to Roberto Martinez moan that Manchester City's goal was delivered from a ball that was OUT! It was indeed.. but get used to shite.. if you want too moan.. become an Aston Villa fan..then you'll have something to fscking moan about... no purchases this January.. doomed to relegation, can't score in a brothel.. oooh sorry I digress! (I still have faith).

Does anybody know what these are? They look cool, but I'm hoping they have a better use than the Batman Belt Utility THING my son will be using them as soon..

It only works with 15v and also has a 'Data' input?

Pager, that's not my initial guess.. I reckon it's some form of data capture/loader?

I reckon you're spot on there.. these have six buttons below the screen also.

I think I tend to not install them at the time.

Conflicts 1a to all of em..

Certainly the java ones.

I like the letter from Fletcher Bonds on the letters page.. oh how things have changed.. NOT..

Not really related since you have been trying for two days, but related because you are in the UK as am I.. but.. BT have gone tits up this afternoon.. in fact so bad it was announced on the News.. thank the lordy I have Virgin line also..

Is it a secret hinv?

Searching for a document I didn't save.

I thought about doing something rather similar as I perused Maplins... but didn't.

My analog goes through an Analog-->SD convertor I purchased from Blackmagic then to SD IN on the vbob. Works a treat.

Xcircuit for IRIX, Hamei told me about it. I haven't got it running yet (but that's only because I got around to sorting the issues I had). It does look good.

ivelegacy wrote:

uunix wrote: Xcircuit for IRIX, Hamei told me about it

is it this one ?

sci-electronics/xcircuit
Latest version available: 3.7.48
Size of files: 1611 KiB
Homepage: http://opencircuitdesign.com/xcircuit
Description: Circuit drawing and schematic capture program

Yes that looks like it, although I'm not sure if it does testing and flow control.

hamei wrote: You guys are bad. You made me download Logan's Run .

The first half was silly but Jenny Agutter without any underwear and barely any overwear made it passable. Or better than passable

But the second part, hokey smokes, Alfie. Whose idea was that ? The minute he said, "We have to go back and save them" I knew it was over. Threw the file away at that point. Even Jenny Braless couldn't have saved that.

Feeling happy I didn't spend $7.50 on it when it was in the theatres.

So much for artificial intelligence ....

I think Jenny Agutter was semi-naked in 90% of her films.. next to watch is American Werewolf in London.. (try and avoid the railway children if you're after nude films.. she was 12.. bad search criteria).
But Logan's Run is without doubt a classic, unfortunately they decided to produce a TV show which contained too many odd-characters and no Jenny. This consisted each week of Logan + strange group visiting a strange place with a hidden secret, closely followed by the hunting Francis 7.
oh and there were no orgy scenes in any episode..

Welcome IMNOTDEFECTIVE, and I see you are UK based, outstanding.
Funny about the Maya interface, I'm not a massive Maya user but have used it for as many years as I have had SGI hardware and I tried the Maya 2015 last year and couldn't work out where the bloomin on off button was let alone where my Hypershade had gone. I am currently building a 5 second lighted scene just to start testing rendering times.

If you do want an SGI, you need the Inside, Outside, Noise, Heat and the software, not some bastardized mutation of one.. go for it.. if it's just modelling, I'd go for a FUEL (less environmental noise effects) and maybe render using some other hardware, but if you want to use video etc, Octane2, just my 2 shillings worth.. I have both and do both.

A food menu in SGI Photoshop for a friend who has decided to leave his job and start a greasy spoons café. Is it pointless, well I suppose not for him and I'm sure I'll at least get a bacon butty out of it. num num num num num munch..

vishnu wrote: The Maya coders take pride in the fact that they've never changed the user interface, if you know 2016 you'll instantly be able to be productive with 6.5. I have never used a version newer than 6.5, but members here who have have said the new features are "cruft." If you're happy with what Blender gives you you'll be fine with 6.5.

Doh, I was thinking of Smoke...

vishnu wrote: Now, for hardware I would say you'd want a V12 2-processor Octane (or a 4-processor Tezro) rather than a Fuel, the extra processors make a big difference if you want to run Mental Ray while you're modeling or in particular if you're playing back scenes.

I'm to be convinced of your choice there Vishnu (Octane2 over Fuel), based not solely on the noise level of these machines compared to the fuel, but I respect the speed of a good fuel. But I will stand corrected after I have witnessed own testing.

vishnu wrote: Oh wait, every member here who can't stand more than 50 decibels of fan hum...

So I have 2 SGI machines on my desk that share a Keyboard & Mouse, the rest I remote to. My Octane is as you know pretty maxed out, my Fuel is decent spec (could do with a V12 if the truth be known). Each machine can do roughly what the other can do with the exception of Video and my Octane has all the bells and whistles for that task. Now, which is the first machine I turn on.. the Fuel, because it feels snappier and yes is quieter. I think the Fuel gets bad press due to the build design, the case, the crappy flappy front door and the internal cabling (which, every time I use it, I'm consistently thinking about those internal cables and sometimes it makes me so sad I just turn off everything and sulk- ).

With the above in mind, which is my favourite machine.... Octane2 obviously (until I get my hands on a certain Onyx Rack).

What would you do, if they (sgi) dropped you an email which read..

"Yole [username]
We watch the forum and you're a pretty cool guy.. here's a link to ALL the IRIX source code. You own it now."

foetz wrote: unfortunately, thinking of what's been posted here over the years, the fuel seems to be quite a troublesome machine in comparison to other sgi models

I do seem to be defending the Fuel somewhat here, which isn't my intention since I have a wonderful Octane2, but no SGI is reliable if you turn them off, I'm sure I've posted many times Russian Roulette type posts on here before. The only one that NEVER fails is the Indy..

Anyway, putting that aside, I thought about speeds etc and rendering.

Using maya is pretty much the same on my Octane2 as it is with the fuel, both machines can handle the slow speed I actually do things, but what about the rendering.. you possibly would render on something else, but tonight I thought I do a render test on exactly the project.. A simple Rocket.

The Fuel is a 1x800Mhz R16000 with 4GB Ram V10 Vs The Octane2 2x600MHz R14000 with 4GB Ram V12..

Source, a 700 frame maya project of a rocket (unfinished and un-moving).

Fuel
Total time For Render 00:10:51
Total Elapsed 00:10:57
mental ray wallclock 0:10:53.84
mental ray CPU user 0:09:52.26

Octane2
Total time For Render 00:09:13
Total Elapsed 00:09:23
mental ray wallclock 0:09:17.08
mental ray CPU user 0:01:53.80 <----- WTF? (Is this caused by swapping CPU's during render)?

ivelegacy wrote: I was there, around the lake for my business, and she was there to relax

And what exactly is your 'business' Mr Ivelegacy?

Watching a horror movie on the horror channel, where for the love of Christ.. they still cannot comprehend the 'Double Tap' method.. hit the evil guy once.. hit him again.. and again and again.. keep hitting him until you know he's never getting up. Oh and turn the fscking lights ON!!

Below, Maya on Octane2 with v12

Below, Maya on Fuel with v10


Have I done something wrong with the settings? It's inside out!