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weldelandia wrote: Hi, is there a way to find users by location?

That's a fairly tall order. Not only can users put just about anything in the location field of their user profile, entering a location isn't mandatory.

You could always google the forum by the geographic entity of choice, something like "site:nekochan.net finland". If you're interested in finding members in a specific area, you'd probably get better results by a post that outlines who you want to find <and your reasons for doing so>.
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The DM6 relies upon OpenML rather than the traditional SGI video tools or libraries. So the old school IRIX video daemon, videod, doesn't recognize the board and won't load, which also means none of the other IRIX video capture tools work either. Using a combination of the DM6 software package provided by SGI and the SDK from DVS, the one I have will display a the RGB test screens, but that's as far as I got without an SD video source.

The situation is similar to that of the DM3, which is also OpenML based. The most widely known DM3 application(s) were provided by Discreet. So far I haven't found an equivalent app for the DM6.

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3dchris wrote: Also, I don't see the option to turn on "Smooth Wireframe", or "High Quality Viewport". Are these options not supported on the SGI?

Perhaps not what you're looking for, but the Maya 6.5 Help Menu mentions the following:
Maya 6.5 Help Menu wrote: Shading > Smooth Wireframe

Displays smooth wireframed objects in Maya's 3D views, including the Hardware Render Buffer and the 3D Paint Effects view.
    Note: Does not work in 2D views, including the UV Texture Editor.

<and>

Shading > High Quality Rendering

When high quality interactive shading is turned on, the scene views are drawn in high quality by the hardware renderer. This lets you see a very good representation of the look of the final render without having to software render the scene.
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87Porsche wrote:
recondas wrote: Yeah - its almost enough to revive speculation that an EPS power supply from a PC could be rewired to work <maybe even a Sparkle ;) >. If you have the chance a few close up photos of the label, interior and any makings on the PCB would be very interesting.


Here you go. I thought I had thrown it away.

The power supply from your Fuel is labled as a Sparkle FSP460-60PFN. Sparkle/FSP Group has a data sheet for the FSP460-60PFN power supply used in your Fuel / shown in your photo. A cursory google search shows it sold new for $70 to $80, and there's currently one on eBay at $25: http://cgi.ebay.com/FSP460-60PFN-460W-A ... 45f87284e1

No longer a stocked item, but <minus the part number tags added by SGI> the photo of the label of the Sparkle FSP460-60PFN on NewEgg's web site appears to be nearly identical to the label in your photo: 87Porsche, could you post a photo of the the connectors that attach to the Fuel motherboard? SGI might have used a non-standard wiring arrangement in the connector, but other than that I don't see anything that would suggest that the SGI version isn't identical to the generally available PC version.

No guarantees, but it might provide a reasonably priced route to revive your Fuel.
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zski128 wrote: What was the reason for the later higher wattage PSU? Higher CPU speeds, more expansion cards?
I don't know that SGI has ever publicly given a reason, but your list of suggestions sounds like it includes most of the usual suspects.
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Black Cardinal wrote: Forum question: How do I edit the thread title to match the new configuration?
I don't get quite the same edit panel you do, but to the best of my pre-moderator recollection the title changing bits were the same. You'll have to edit the initial post to change the title of the thread.

In the top left panel of the 'Edit post' window should be selections for "Delete post", "Post icon", "Subject" and "Message body". The field to the right of "Subject" should be a editable text box containing the thread title. Changing the contents for that text box will change/update the thread title.
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From a conceptual standpoint the wiki makes better sense - articles are more focused/on point than the ad-hoc entry style of a forum. Having said that, the formal presentation style of the wiki doesn't readily foster the level of social interaction that's found in the laid-back atmosphere of the forums - which might partially explain why the wiki has been slower to gain acceptance with some of the regulars.


zafunk wrote: Wikify the aggregators and keep the individual threads going for discussion purposes.

So for that reason I'd agree with zafunk's suggestion to keep a forum discussion in addition to wiki articles would be a good idea - it'll keep another route for input from anyone who might not know the in-n-outs of the wiki interface <or doesn't find the level of wiki peer interaction as socially stimulating>.

For now I'll split the tape drive conversation out to the general hardware forum. Some of that info may prove helpful to someone with an HP DAT drive <with an O2 or any other SGI/MIPS system with a SCSI interface>.
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HP published a Unix Configuration Manual that included a IRIX kernel configuration file for their LTO/Ultrium drives. The trick is/was finding a copy. The current <commonly available> version is Edition 5, from which HP unfortunately dropped IRIX.

After playing word games with google for a while I managed to find a copy of Edition 1 of the HP Ultrium Tape Drives Unix Configuration Guide - which does indeed include an IRIX 6.5 kernel configuration guide <and a few other gone-with-the-wind unix flavors>.

Seeing as it's an Edition 1 manual, it probably deals with earlier model HP LTO/Ultrium drives. The manual is still publicly available on one of HP's semi-obscure servers: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w ... 1g&cad=rja
As long as it's still available I'd recommend downloading a copy - HP gives some advice on user changeable block sizes to tune the the drive for specific uses, as well as a run down on specific commands to use

Here's the kernel configuration file <watch for erroneous word wrap>:

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{ DATTAPE, TPDAT, 2, 7, "HP", "Ultrium", /*LTO-1*/, 0, 0, {0},
MTCAN_BSF|MTCAN_BSR|MTCAN_APPEND|MTCAN_COMPRESS|MTCAN_PREV|
MTCAN_SYNC|MTCAN_SPEOD|MTCAN_CHKRDY|MTCAN_VAR|MTCAN_SETSZ|
MTCAN_SILI|MTCAN_SEEK|MTCAN_CHTYPEANY,
/* minimum delay on i/o is 4 minutes, because when a retry is
* performed, the drive retries a number of times, and then
* rewinds to BOT, repositions, and tries again. */
40, 5*60, 20*60, 20*60, 3*3600, 512, 512*512,
tpsc_default_dens_count, tpsc_default_hwg_dens_names,
tpsc_default_alias_dens_names,
{0}, 0, 0, 0,
0, (u_char *)0 },
For anyone who's not certain what to do with the kernel config file, there's a neko-wiki that gives the run-down on where to put the file and how to get the kernel to recognize it .
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Nicely done fu!

BTW - after everyone has had a a day or two to catch up with the wiki-related posts here in the O2 Hardware Aggregator, I'll be splitting them off to join the New Nekochan Wiki thread. That will keep the O2 Hardware Aggregator on topic, and for long-term storage/posterity they'll be a better fit in the neko-wiki topic.
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hirudin wrote: I know moving one of these can be awesome (and by awesome I mean a pain).
Just in case anyone outside of LA might be tempted - moving a single-rack system is pretty straightforward if you have access to a pick up truck and a helper. I picked up the one I had using this method , and it went to the new owner the same way <in a mini-sized pickup truck>.

dc_v01 used the same method when he picked up his Onyx2. He documented the process with photos here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16721076
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As a follow up, I had a couple of Dell (oem'd HP) LTO-1 drives on-hand, and moved one to an external case to test compatibility with the HP provided kernel configuration file.

After the initial power up, as expected the drive appeared as "unknown" to both an hinv -vm and "mt status".

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Integral SCSI controller 5: Version LS1030, low voltage differential
Tape drive: unit 6 on SCSI controller 5: unknown

# mt status
Controller: SCSI
Device: HP: Ultrium 1-SCSIĀ  E21V
Status: 0x200
Drive type: unknown
Media : Not READY
The good news is that the drive has standard HP firmware, so no modifications will be needed to the device identification string in the HP provided kernel configuration file.

After adding the HP kernel config file to /var/sysgen/master.d/scsi I updated the kernel <with autoconfig> and rebooted. After the reboot, the drive was correctly recognized by an hinv and mt status:

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Integral SCSI controller 5: Version LS1030, low voltage differential
Tape drive: unit 6 on SCSI controller 5: DAT

# mt status
Controller: SCSI
Device: HP: Ultrium 1-SCSIĀ  E21V
Status: 0x20262
Drive type: DAT
Media : READY, writable, at BOT


After using a 75 GB DLT drive, the 200GB capacity of the Ultrium/LTO-1 is nice. I've got a full system backup running now - I'll update this post when its done.

Update: I used the IRIX provided GUI <for cpio> to run a full system back up - and after the backup completed was able to read the contents of the tape and restore selected files.

The LTO-1 drive was connected to a LSI 21320 Ultra320 controller <according to the hinv as an LVD device>. The full system backup was 60.71 GB. From start to finish it took 33 minutes, 30 seconds - a significant improvement considering the DEC DLT7000 35/70GB drive < the same one used when I wrote the tape drive wiki > needed several hours/usually overnight to make a similar sized backup of back up of my Octane <connected to the Octane's native single-ended UltraSCSI bus>.
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As long as we're dealing with SGI hardware of roughly the same era <O2, Octane, O2k, Onyx2, IP35, attributing specific SCSI devices to individual hardware platforms might be a little too fine-grained <SCSI devices such as hard drives, DVDs, CD-ROMs, CDRWs, but *not* PCI SCSI controllers> . I've worked my way through pretty much all of those systems, and can't recall a SCSI device that worked on one but not the others. I might have just been lucky, but if not, it'd save quite a bit of wiki creation time.

If a specific device appears in only one or two of the forum aggregators, it would be simple enough to add a note mentioning "not yet tested on platform X".

Ditto for third-party monitors, and a possibly a few other categories as well.
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For some additional insight into what USB devices work <or don't> under IRIX, it'd probably be worth taking a look inside of the IRIX Kernel Hardware Inventory file - /usr/include/sys/invent.h <my references are to the IRIX 6.5.30 version of the file - the invent.h found in earlier IRIX revisions may be different>.

invent.h recognizes only four USB device classes, the root hub/controller, USB hubs, human interface devices, and the graphics compositor (used to composite multiple VPros into a single output), while the at-large USB specification includes a significantly larger list of device classes . To further muddy the water, invent.h also includes a note that mentions the listed classes might not match those defined in the at-large USB specification.

invent.h also includes a list of specific types of devices <that fall within each of the invent.h defined classes> and mentions these use data generated by the USB device to identify which class they belong in. Since the USB spec lists a number of device classes, this might the source of problems when a USB device is attached that doesn't define itself as belonging to one of the classes implicitly listed by invent.h. That need not be quite as dire as it sounds, in spite of the lack of an invent.h USB audio device class, the Griffin iMic USB audio device works under IRIX.

Device types include an OHCI root hub <the USB PCI controller - practical experience has shown this to be limited to certain TI OHCI chipsets>, human interface device <HID> keyboards, HID mice, and HID tablets. There's a mention that no USB hub types have been specifically defined <my Origin 300 shipped from the factory with an SIIG USB SlimHub 2.0, but in that particular case the USB controller is in the L2, which runs embedded PPC linux>.

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Here are a few more kernel configuration files for tape drives that are larger/newer than those included in with IRIX. These are compliments of a web search and I don't have the specific tape drives to test with, so no guarantees.

In an attempt to consolidate, the last four were recopied from videobrat's 2005 nekochan post .

In a follow up to videobrat's original post, LoWeN mentions that an additional piece of <licensed> IRIX software is required to allow the use of tape drives larger than a DLT IV. The additional software mentioned by LoWeN is an asynchronous personality daemon, or APD. Here's a forum post by videobrat where he describes problems with a Quantum LTO-3 drive used without APD - and a follow up post where he mentions that an HP LTO-3 drive he got as a replacement for the Quantum LTO-3 worked without APD .

VideoBrat's initial problems with the Quantum LTO-3 drive may have been the result of a typographical error in the kernel configuration file he used, rather than the lack of APD software. The first line of the IRIX kernel config file he used read:
{ DATTAPE, TPDAT, 8, 7 , "CERTANCE", " ULTRIUM 3 ", 0, 0, {0},
- the fourth field in that line "7", should reflect the total number of spaces in the fifth field ("ULTRIUM 3"), which is actually 9 spaces. To comply with SGI's guidelines, it should have read
{ DATTAPE, TPDAT, 8, 9 , "CERTANCE", " ULTRIUM 3 ", 0, 0, {0},
(the copy quoted below is the edited version).

I don't have the APD software, and so far that hasn't been a problem with backups and partial restores using the non-APD HP LTO-1 I tested with. In the absence of the APD software, the best practice may be to test a non-APD backup *before* a critical system back up is done. ( UPDATE : the list of successfully tested drives larger than DLT IV now includes an IBM LTO-2, a Quantum (Certance) LTO-2HH, and a Quantum SDLT320 - follow the thread for additional details).

There's not much in TechPubs on APD beyond some <similar> customer letters < scroll down to see the list >, and an indirect mention in the IRIX 6.5.30 Release Announcement that certain drives <that need the APD software> would appear in "mt status" as an "Async Personality Device".

I suspect that <among other things> the IRIX asynchronous personality daemon *might* provide for faster read/write performance, but was also intended as a marketing device to guide customers contemplating the purchase of a tape drive back to SGI. One source that might shed additional light on the subject is Sony's Unix Configuration Guide v2.24 . In that manual Sony recommends using APD v2.7 for their AIT-3 and SAIT-1 drives, but also provides a IRIX kernel configuration file to allow "testing without APD" <perhaps Sony's way of backdooring APD when Sony's potential customers balked at having to purchase an APD license just to test Sony's drives> . Sony's inclusion of a 'test' kernel driver at least suggests some drives will function without the addition of the APD software, and might hint that not using APD doesn't result in a performance hit - it would hardly behoove Sony to provide a method to test their drives that resulted degraded performance. In either case, the ability to use any of the drives listed below could still offer backup capacities greater than DDS4 or DLT IV.

So if anyone does try one and have success, please post a follow up note.
HP Ultrium 1 / LTO-1

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/* HP Ultrium 1 / LTO-1 */
{ DATTAPE, TPDAT, 2, 7, "HP", "Ultrium", /*LTO-1*/, 0, 0, {0},
MTCAN_BSF|MTCAN_BSR|MTCAN_APPEND|MTCAN_COMPRESS|MTCAN_PREV|
MTCAN_SYNC|MTCAN_SPEOD|MTCAN_CHKRDY|MTCAN_VAR|MTCAN_SETSZ|
MTCAN_SILI|MTCAN_SEEK|MTCAN_CHTYPEANY,
/* minimum delay on i/o is 4 minutes, because when a retry is
* performed, the drive retries a number of times, and then
* rewinds to BOT, repositions, and tries again. */
40, 5*60, 20*60, 20*60, 3*3600, 512, 512*512,
tpsc_default_dens_count, tpsc_default_hwg_dens_names,
tpsc_default_alias_dens_names,
{0}, 0, 0, 0,
0, (u_char *)0 },

IBM LTO2

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/* IBM LTO-2 / Ultrium-TD2 */
{ DATTAPE, TPDAT, 3, 11, "IBM", "ULTRIUM-TD2", 0, 0, {0},
MTCAN_BSF|MTCAN_BSR|MTCAN_APPEND|MTCAN_SETMK|
MTCAN_PREV|MTCAN_SYNC|MTCAN_SPEOD|MTCAN_CHKRDY|MTCAN_VAR|
MTCAN_SETSZ|MTCAN_SILI|MTCAN_SEEK|MTCAN_COMPRESS,
40, 5*60, 10*60, 10*60, 3*3600, 512, 256*512,
tpsc_default_dens_count, tpsc_default_hwg_dens_names,
tpsc_default_alias_dens_names,
{0}, 0, 0, 0,
0, (u_char *)0 },

IBM LTO3

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/* IBM LTO-3 / Ultrium-TD3 */
{ DATTAPE, TPDAT, 3, 11, "IBM", "ULTRIUM-TD3", 0, 0, {0},
MTCAN_BSF|MTCAN_BSR|MTCAN_APPEND|MTCAN_SETMK|
MTCAN_PREV|MTCAN_SYNC|MTCAN_SPEOD|MTCAN_CHKRDY|MTCAN_VAR|
MTCAN_SETSZ|MTCAN_SILI|MTCAN_SEEK|MTCAN_COMPRESS,
40, 5*60, 10*60, 10*60, 3*3600, 512, 256*512,
tpsc_default_dens_count, tpsc_default_hwg_dens_names,
tpsc_default_alias_dens_names,
{0}, 0, 0, 0,
0, (u_char *)0 },

Quantum SuperDLT-1

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/* Quantum SuperDLT-1 */
{ DECDLT, TPDLT, 7, 9, "QUANTUM", "SuperDLT1", 0, 0, {0},
MTCAN_BSF | MTCAN_BSR | MTCAN_APPEND | MTCAN_SPEOD |
MTCAN_CHKRDY | MTCAN_VAR | MTCAN_SETSZ | MTCAN_SILI |
MTCAN_SEEK | MTCAN_SYNC | MTCAN_CHTYPEANY | MTCAN_COMPRESS,
20, 8*60, 20*60, 5*60, 3*3600, 4096, 64*1024,
tpsc_default_dens_count, tpsc_default_hwg_dens_names,
tpsc_default_alias_dens_names,
{0}, 0, 0, 0,
0, (u_char *)0 },

HP Ultrium-3/LTO-3 <originally provided by videobrat in this nekochan post >

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/* HP LTO3 / Ultrium 3 */
{ DATTAPE, TPDAT, 2, 9, "HP", "Ultrium 3", 0, 0, {0},
MTCAN_BSF|MTCAN_BSR|MTCAN_APPEND|MTCAN_SETMK|MTCAN_PART|MTCAN_PREV|
MTCAN_SYNC|MTCAN_SPEOD|MTCAN_CHKRDY|MTCAN_VAR|MTCAN_SETSZ|
MTCAN_SILI|MTCAN_AUDIO|MTCAN_SEEK|MTCAN_CHTYPEANY|MTCAN_COMPRESS,
40, 5*60, 20*60, 20*60, 3*3600, 512, 512*512,
tpsc_default_dens_count, tpsc_default_hwg_dens_names,
tpsc_default_alias_dens_names,
{0}, 0, 0, 0,
0, (u_char *)0 },

Quantum (Certance) LTO-2

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/* Certance LTO-2 / Ultrium 2 */
{ DATTAPE, TPDAT, 8, 9, "CERTANCE", "ULTRIUM 2", 0, 0, {0},
MTCAN_BSF|MTCAN_BSR|MTCAN_APPEND|MTCAN_SETMK|
MTCAN_PREV|MTCAN_SYNC|MTCAN_SPEOD|MTCAN_CHKRDY|MTCAN_VAR|
MTCAN_SETSZ|MTCAN_SILI|MTCAN_SEEK|MTCAN_COMPRESS,
40, 5*60, 10*60, 10*60, 3*3600, 512, 256*512,
tpsc_default_dens_count, tpsc_default_hwg_dens_names,
tpsc_default_alias_dens_names,
{0}, 0, 0, 0,
0, (u_char *)0 },

Quantum (Certance) LTO3

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/* Quantum LTO3 / Ultrium 3 */
{ DATTAPE, TPDAT, 8, 9, "CERTANCE", "ULTRIUM 3", 0, 0, {0},
MTCAN_BSF|MTCAN_BSR|MTCAN_APPEND|MTCAN_SETMK|MTCAN_PART|MTCAN_PREV|
MTCAN_SYNC|MTCAN_SPEOD|MTCAN_CHKRDY|MTCAN_VAR|MTCAN_SETSZ|
MTCAN_SILI|MTCAN_AUDIO|MTCAN_SEEK|MTCAN_CHTYPEANY|MTCAN_COMPRESS,
40, 5*60, 20*60, 20*60, 3*3600, 512, 512*512,
tpsc_default_dens_count, tpsc_default_hwg_dens_names,
tpsc_default_alias_dens_names,
{0}, 0, 0, 0,
0, (u_char *)0 },

HP LTO-4 (Model 1760) - provided by hhoffman in this nekochan topic.

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/* HP LTO4 / Ultrium 4 */
{ DATTAPE, TPDAT, 2, 9, "HP", "Ultrium 4", 0, 0, {0},
MTCAN_BSF|MTCAN_BSR|MTCAN_APPEND|MTCAN_SETMK|MTCAN_PART|MTCAN_PREV|
MTCAN_SYNC|MTCAN_SPEOD|MTCAN_CHKRDY|MTCAN_VAR|MTCAN_SETSZ|
MTCAN_SILI|MTCAN_AUDIO|MTCAN_SEEK|MTCAN_CHTYPEANY|MTCAN_COMPRESS,
40, 5*60, 20*60, 3*3600, 512, 256*512, 512*512,
tpsc_default_dens_count, tpsc_default_hwg_dens_names,
tpsc_default_alias_dens_names,
{0}, 0, 0, 0,
0, (u_char *)0 },

The following were also provided by videobrat < in this original post >:
Quantum SDLT 220

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/* Quantum SDLT220 drive */
{ DECDLT, TPDLT, 7, 7, "QUANTUM", "SDLT220", 0, 0,
{0}, MTCAN_BSF | MTCAN_BSR | MTCAN_APPEND | MTCAN_SPEOD |
MTCAN_CHKRDY | MTCAN_VAR | MTCAN_SETSZ | MTCAN_SILI | MTCAN_SEEK|
MTCAN_SYNC | MTCAN_CHTYPEANY | MTCAN_COMPRESS | MTCAN_SETDEN,
20, 8*60, 20*60, 5*60, 3*3600, 4096, 64*1024,
tpsc_default_dens_count, tpsc_default_hwg_dens_names,
tpsc_default_alias_dens_names,
{0}, 0, 0, 0,
0, (u_char *)0 },

Quantum SDLT 320

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/* Quantum SDLT320 drive */
{ DECDLT, TPDLT, 7, 7, "QUANTUM", "SDLT320", 0, 0,
{0}, MTCAN_BSF | MTCAN_BSR | MTCAN_APPEND | MTCAN_SPEOD |
MTCAN_CHKRDY | MTCAN_VAR | MTCAN_SETSZ | MTCAN_SILI | MTCAN_SEEK|
MTCAN_SYNC | MTCAN_CHTYPEANY | MTCAN_COMPRESS | MTCAN_SETDEN,
20, 8*60, 20*60, 5*60, 3*3600, 4096, 64*1024,
tpsc_default_dens_count, tpsc_default_hwg_dens_names,
tpsc_default_alias_dens_names,
{0}, 0, 0, 0,
0, (u_char *)0 },

Quantum SDLT 600

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/* Quantum SDLT600 drive */
{ DECDLT, TPDLT, 7, 7, "QUANTUM", "SDLT600", 0, 0, {0, 0, 0, 0 },
MTCAN_BSF|MTCAN_BSR|MTCAN_APPEND|MTCAN_SPEOD |
MTCAN_CHKRDY|MTCAN_VAR| MTCAN_SETSZ|MTCAN_SILI|MTCAN_SEEK|
MTCAN_SYNC|MTCAN_CHTYPEANY | MTCAN_COMPRESS | MTCAN_SETDEN,
20, 8*60, 20*60, 5*60, 3*3600, 16384, 64*1024,
tpsc_default_dens_count, tpsc_default_hwg_dens_names, tpsc_default_alias_dens_names,
{0}, 0, 0, 0,
0, (u_char *)0 },

Sony DTF-2

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/* SONY GY-8240 DTF2 drive */
{ SONYGY, TPGY2120, 4, 7, "SONY", "GY-8240", 0, 0, {0, 0, 0, 0},
MTCAN_BSF | MTCAN_BSR | MTCANT_RET | MTCAN_CHKRDY | MTCAN_PREV |
MTCAN_SEEK | MTCAN_APPEND | MTCAN_SILI | MTCAN_VAR | MTCAN_SETSZ |
MTCAN_CHTYPEANY | MTCAN_COMPRESS,
20, 100*60, 10*60, 9*60, 9*60, 16384, 256*1024,
tpsc_default_dens_count, tpsc_default_hwg_dens_names, tpsc_default_alias_dens_names,
{0}, 0, 0, 0,
0, (u_char *)0 },

If any one has additional <or alternative> examples, please post them.
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The voltage/color values are the same on the label of the SGI FSP460-60PFN Sparkle PS and the Sparkle PC version of the power supply (with the same FSP460-60PFN part number). Having a similar photo of the connector and wiring bundle of the Sparkle PC power supply might help resolve what <if any> changes SGI made in the motherboard connector pinout.

If there aren't any visible changes, I'd say there's at least a reasonable chance the Sparkle PC unit might be a direct replacement of the (currently) hard to find Fuel power supply.

If they the voltage/color values in the connector bundle differ, then a few minutes spent with a DMM, a Fuel <and a working Sparkle power supply> might make re-wiring the connector bundle in the PC version a possibility.

EDIT : If anyone feels particularly brave <or otherwise desperate to find a reasonably priced Fuel PS>, an eBay seller currently has ten of the non-SGI Sparkle FSP460-60PFN power supplies listed for $49.99 (US) - with a 'make an offer' option: http://cgi.ebay.com/Sparkle-FSP460-60PF ... 5642a756a4 Check for yourself, but the connector doesn't appear to be wired to the same color-code combination as 87Porsche's Fuel example, so some work with a DMM is probably still in order.
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I voted multi-processor because it represents all the SGI stuff I have running - a 16p Onyx300, a 8p Onyx O350 InfintePerformannce, and a 4p Tezro.

I do still have two O2s, but those are just sitting on the shelf unused, balanced out by a dual-processor Octane (in the same condition).
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With 22 processors involved, that's a fairly complex piece of hardware to troubleshoot. I think the GOBI would suggest that minimizing the number of components tested at one time would simplify the process (something akin to the process suggested in this discussion ).

To avoid later issues with the PROM having components re-installed in different locations, put a masking tape tag indicating the position of each board and CrayLink cable before disconnecting or removing them.

  • Temporarily disconnect the CrayLink connections and Graphics module and test only the compute module with the MSC that doesn't get to 3F3F3F.
  • Remove all XIO expansion boards (X-Town, FC, MSCSI, etc.)
  • After that module is powered up freestanding, examine the nodeboard LEDs for error codes , then test the system with only the problem nodeboard (in N1).
    • if you have issues with the normal console try the diagnostic port on the MSC, and
    • if you can't get diagnostic info with only the problem nodeboard installed, move it to N2 and put a working node in N1.
  • As j-j has suggested follow that error code(s) to try to isolate the problem.
  • If the problem can't be eliminated while only the problem nodeboard is installed, try a different nodeboard (in the same slot).

Once you get a nodeboard in the problem slot to display a post-initialization heartbeat , add the other components back, one-at-a-time.

and please post a follow-up on your findings - details on the problem from someone with your experience and knowledge of the hardware is almost certain to be of future help some one (who has yet to acquire either).
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Never used it, but it looks like TechPubs has some documentation on the subject:
InPerson User's Guide
InPerson Setup and Administration Guide

and the man page for InPerson 2.2.1 (for IRIX 6.5) lists minimum hardware requirements:

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InPerson 2.2.1 runs on all systems with graphics that are supported by IRIX 6.5. InPerson's whiteboard only runs on systems with graphics and overlay planes. The audio conferencing features are supported only on audio-capable systems:Ā  O2, Indy, Indigo2, and Indigo. A microphone is required, and headphones are useful in some environments. Video hardware is not required; static images can be used instead of live video. IndigoVideo hardware for Indigo LG1 graphics, also known as Starter video, has not been supported since IRIX 6.2, and is not supported by InPerson 2.2.1.

The InPerson Option board and its driver software (known as indycomp) is no longer supported in IRIX 6.5, nor by InPerson 2.2.1.
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canavan wrote: Anyone? If no one knows, could somebody please measure his?
DM2s, DM3s and DM5s have become very affordable, but the LVDS cables used to connect the DM2/3 to the DM5 are still pretty rare (and likely to get even more so when Richtom1s limited supply is exhausted).

If someone with a set of the LVDS cables would take a few minutes to meter the pinout it would be a nice gesture to the nekochan community.
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This one arrived as a (nearly) empty chassis - added a system board (along with just about every screw in the chassis), processor node board, V10, and the extra cooling. This particular O350 belongs to another nekochan member who asked me to do the graphics conversion.

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# hinv -vm
Location: /hw/module/001c01/node
IP53_2CPU Board: barcode NGB308Ā  Ā  Ā part 030-1869-001 rev -D
Location: /hw/module/001c01/IXbrick/xtalk/12
ASTODYB Board: barcode MPL755Ā  Ā  Ā part 030-1725-001 rev -F
Location: /hw/module/001c01/IXbrick/xtalk/15
2U_INT_53 Board: barcode MYV358Ā  Ā  Ā part 030-1809-003 rev -B
Location: /hw/module/001c01/IXbrick/xtalk/15/pci-x/0/1/ioc4
IO9 Board: barcode MRH584Ā  Ā  Ā part 030-1771-004 rev -A
2 700 MHZ IP35 Processors
CPU: MIPS R16000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.1
FPU: MIPS R16010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 2.1
CPU 0 at Module 001c01/Slot 0/Slice A: 700 Mhz MIPS R16000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 2.1. Scache: Size 4 MB Speed 350 MhzĀ  Tap 0xc
CPU 1 at Module 001c01/Slot 0/Slice C: 700 Mhz MIPS R16000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 2.1. Scache: Size 4 MB Speed 350 MhzĀ  Tap 0xc
Main memory size: 2048 Mbytes
Instruction cache size: 32 Kbytes
Data cache size: 32 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 4 Mbytes
Memory at Module 001c01/Slot 0: 512 MB (enabled)
Bank 0 contains 1024 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 1 contains 1024 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
Integral SCSI controller 2: Version IDE (ATA/ATAPI) IOC4
CDROM: unit 0 on SCSI controller 2
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version QL12160, low voltage differential
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 1)
Integral SCSI controller 1: Version QL12160, low voltage differential
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty3
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty4
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty5
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty6
Graphics board: V10
Integral Gigabit Ethernet: tg0, module 001c01, PCI bus 1 slot 4
Iris Audio Processor: version RAD revision 13.0, number 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x100a) PCI slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1216) PCI slot 3
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x14e4, device 0x1645) PCI slot 4
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0005) PCI slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1033, device 0x0035) PCI slot 2
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1033, device 0x0035) PCI slot 2
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1033, device 0x00e0) PCI slot 2
IOC4 firmware revision 62
IOC3/IOC4 external interrupts: 1
HUB in Module 001c01/Slot 0: Revision 2 Speed 200.00 Mhz (enabled)
IP35prom in Module 001c01/Slot n0: Revision 6.210
USB controller: type OHCI
USB Human Interface Device: device id 0 type keyboard
USB controller: type OHCI
USB Human Interface Device: device id 0 type mouse

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# uname -aR
IRIX64 IRIS 6.5 6.5.30f 07202013 IP35

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# l1cmd serial all

DataĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  LocationĀ  Ā  Ā  Value
------------------------------Ā  ------------Ā  --------
Local System Serial NumberĀ  Ā  Ā  NVRAMĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā M2004922
Reference System Serial NumberĀ  NVRAMĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā M2004922
Local Brick Serial NumberĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā EEPROMĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  MYV358
Reference Brick Serial NumberĀ  Ā NVRAMĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā MYV358


EEPROMĀ  Ā  Ā  Product NameĀ  Ā  SerialĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā Part NumberĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā RevĀ  T/W
----------Ā  --------------Ā  -------------Ā  --------------------Ā  ---Ā  ------
INTERFACEĀ  Ā 2U_INT_53Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā MYV358Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 030_1809_003Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  BĀ  Ā  00
IO9Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā IO9Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā MRH584Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 030_1771_004Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  AĀ  Ā  00
ODYSSEYĀ  Ā  Ā ASTODYBĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā MPL755Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 030_1725_001Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  FĀ  Ā  00
RISERĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā 2U_RISERĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  MZA527Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 030_1808_005Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  AĀ  Ā  00
NODEĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  IP53_2CPUĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā NGB308Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 030_1869_001Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  DĀ  Ā  00
SNOWBALLĀ  Ā  no hardware detected
PS 1Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  no hardware detected
PS 2Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  DPS-500EBEĀ  Ā  Ā  XPD0312001407Ā  060-0178-001Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  S1

EEPROMĀ  Ā  Ā JEDEC-SPD InfoĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā Part NumberĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Rev SpeedĀ  SGI
---------- ------------------------ ------------------ ---- ------ --------
DIMM 0Ā  Ā  Ā CE000000000000000C6D6F00 M3 46L2820BT2-CA0Ā  Ā 2BĀ  Ā 10.0Ā  N/A
DIMM 2Ā  Ā  Ā no hardware detected
DIMM 4Ā  Ā  Ā no hardware detected
DIMM 6Ā  Ā  Ā no hardware detected
DIMM 1Ā  Ā  Ā CE000000000000000CBF6F00 M3 46L2820BT2-CA0Ā  Ā 2BĀ  Ā 10.0Ā  N/A
DIMM 3Ā  Ā  Ā no hardware detected
DIMM 5Ā  Ā  Ā no hardware detected
DIMM 7Ā  Ā  Ā no hardware detected

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# diskpatch -v
sc0d1l0:Ā  DiskĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā SGIĀ  Ā  Ā IBM DNES-318350YSAF0Ā  Serial: AKG1H280

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# /usr/gfx/gfxinfo -v
Graphics board 0 is "ODYSSEY" graphics.
Managed (":0.0") 1280x1024
BUZZ version B.1
PB&J version 1
32MB memory
Banks: 2, CAS latency: 3
Monitor 0 type: SGX 8192
Input Sync: Voltage - Video Level; Source - Internal; Genlocked - False
Channel 0:
Origin = (0,0)
Video Output: 1280 pixels, 1024 lines, 60.00Hz (1280x1024_60)
Video Format Flags:Ā  (none)
Sync Disabled
Using Gamma Map 0

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# l1cmd env
Environmental monitoring is enabled and running.

DescriptionĀ  Ā  StateĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā Warning LimitsĀ  Ā  Ā Fault LimitsĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā Current
-------------- ----------Ā  -----------------Ā  -----------------Ā  -------
1.8VĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  10%Ā  Ā 1.62/Ā  1.98Ā  20%Ā  Ā 1.44/Ā  2.16Ā  Ā  1.79
12VĀ  Ā DisabledĀ  10%Ā  10.80/ 13.20Ā  20%Ā  Ā 9.60/ 14.40Ā  Ā 12.06
12VĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  10%Ā  10.80/ 13.20Ā  20%Ā  Ā 9.60/ 14.40Ā  Ā 12.06
3.3VĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  10%Ā  Ā 2.97/Ā  3.63Ā  20%Ā  Ā 2.64/Ā  3.96Ā  Ā  3.32
12V IOĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  10%Ā  10.80/ 13.20Ā  20%Ā  Ā 9.60/ 14.40Ā  Ā 12.06
5V auxĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  10%Ā  Ā 4.50/Ā  5.50Ā  20%Ā  Ā 4.00/Ā  6.00Ā  Ā  4.97
3.3V auxĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  10%Ā  Ā 2.97/Ā  3.63Ā  20%Ā  Ā 2.64/Ā  3.96Ā  Ā  3.23
5V auxĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  10%Ā  Ā 4.50/Ā  5.50Ā  20%Ā  Ā 4.00/Ā  6.00Ā  Ā  4.97
3.3VĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  10%Ā  Ā 2.97/Ā  3.63Ā  20%Ā  Ā 2.64/Ā  3.96Ā  Ā  3.32
2.5VĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  10%Ā  Ā 2.25/Ā  2.75Ā  20%Ā  Ā 2.00/Ā  3.00Ā  Ā  2.51
5VĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  10%Ā  Ā 4.50/Ā  5.50Ā  20%Ā  Ā 4.00/Ā  6.00Ā  Ā  4.94
3.3V auxĀ  Ā DisabledĀ  10%Ā  Ā 2.97/Ā  3.63Ā  20%Ā  Ā 2.64/Ā  3.96Ā  Ā  3.23
XIO 12V biasĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  10%Ā  10.80/ 13.20Ā  20%Ā  Ā 9.60/ 14.40Ā  Ā 12.00
XIO 5VĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  10%Ā  Ā 4.50/Ā  5.50Ā  20%Ā  Ā 4.00/Ā  6.00Ā  Ā  4.94
XIO 2.5VĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  10%Ā  Ā 2.25/Ā  2.75Ā  20%Ā  Ā 2.00/Ā  3.00Ā  Ā  2.48
XIO 3.3V auxĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  10%Ā  Ā 2.97/Ā  3.63Ā  20%Ā  Ā 2.64/Ā  3.96Ā  Ā  3.30
NODE0 3.3V auxĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  10%Ā  Ā 2.97/Ā  3.63Ā  20%Ā  Ā 2.64/Ā  3.96Ā  Ā  3.23
NODE0 5V auxĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  10%Ā  Ā 4.50/Ā  5.50Ā  20%Ā  Ā 4.00/Ā  6.00Ā  Ā  4.94
NODE0 12VĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  10%Ā  10.80/ 13.20Ā  20%Ā  Ā 9.60/ 14.40Ā  Ā 12.00
NODE0 SRAMĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  10%Ā  Ā 2.25/Ā  2.75Ā  20%Ā  Ā 2.00/Ā  3.00Ā  Ā  2.50
NODE0 1.5VĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  10%Ā  Ā 1.35/Ā  1.65Ā  20%Ā  Ā 1.20/Ā  1.80Ā  Ā  1.49
NODE0 CPUĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  10%Ā  Ā 1.13/Ā  1.38Ā  20%Ā  Ā 1.00/Ā  1.50Ā  Ā  1.25

DescriptionĀ  Ā  StateĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā Warning RPMĀ  Current RPM
-------------- ----------Ā  -----------Ā  -----------
FAN 0Ā  EXHST 1Ā  Ā  EnabledĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2160Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2311
FAN 1Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā PSĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 1800Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2057
FAN 2Ā  Ā  PCI 1Ā  Ā  EnabledĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2160Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2343
FAN 3Ā  Ā  PCI 2Ā  Ā  EnabledĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2160Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2616
FAN 4Ā  Ā  Ā  ODYĀ  Ā  EnabledĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 1679Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 2083

AdvisoryĀ  Ā CriticalĀ  Ā FaultĀ  Ā  Ā  Current
DescriptionĀ  Ā  StateĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā TempĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā TempĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā TempĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā Temp
-------------- ----------Ā  ---------Ā  ---------Ā  ---------Ā  ---------
INTERFACE 0Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā EnabledĀ  Ā DisabledĀ  Ā DisabledĀ  Ā 75C/167FĀ  Ā 35C/ 95F
INTERFACE 1Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā EnabledĀ  Ā DisabledĀ  Ā DisabledĀ  Ā 75C/167FĀ  Ā 35C/ 95F
INTERFACE 2Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā EnabledĀ  Ā DisabledĀ  Ā DisabledĀ  Ā 75C/167FĀ  Ā 32C/ 89F
PCI RISERĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā EnabledĀ  Ā DisabledĀ  Ā DisabledĀ  Ā 75C/167FĀ  Ā 29C/ 84F
ODYSSEYĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā EnabledĀ  Ā DisabledĀ  Ā DisabledĀ  Ā 75C/167FĀ  Ā 30C/ 86F
NODEĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  EnabledĀ  Ā DisabledĀ  Ā DisabledĀ  Ā 75C/167FĀ  Ā 38C/100F
BEDROCKĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā EnabledĀ  Ā DisabledĀ  Ā DisabledĀ  Ā 75C/167FĀ  Ā 38C/100F

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# l1cmd ver
L1 1.24.11 (Image B), Built 10/29/2003 00:05:40Ā  Ā  [2MB image]
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fu wrote: new rocker in your place? congrats dave :)
Thanks - it was a good an opportunity to put together some parts that I had/just acquired. Since this would make my third O350 with graphics, I'm going to pass it one along to someone who'll give it more use.

fu wrote: what is a SNOWBALL device? funky name...
The DM3/xtdigvid digital video board. (tho I used to think the name was a play on my chances of actually finding one).
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The suggestions to clear the power on diagnostic (aka POD) logs are good ones.

To access POD mode, stop at the PROM command line (item 5 in the PROM menu list), and sequentially run the following commands from the command line:
  • pod
  • go cac
  • clearalllogs
  • initalllogs
  • flush
  • reset (the system will restart)

After the systen restarts, go back into the PROM monitor and execute:
  • enableall
  • update
  • reset (the system will restart)
If the memory errors don't reappear, you're probably safe.

If they do reappear then I'd suggest trying that pair of DIMMs in the second set of memory slots - slots 1 and 3 normally hold the first pair, slots 2 and 4 the second pair. The error message you received, ""swapping bank 0 with bank 1", makes it sound like the system has disabled bank 0 and is expecting to find the memory in bank 1. It's a long shot that may not work, but if it does it beats replacing the logic board.

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ramq wrote: Nice one.
Thanks - they do make a very nice graphics workstation. Functionally the hardware is the same as the rack mount version of the Tezro or an Onyx (350) InfinitePerformance system. Once you add a graphics board the PROM splash with display either "Tezro" or "Welcome to Onyx InfinitePerformance" (your choice): viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16721235&

ramq wrote: Since you have three of'em, did you follow the threads before regarding Vpro in O350 or did you come up with some new nifty solutions to make it just as close to a "factory" config as possible? I'm thinking cutting metal, replacing fans, etc...
There are two basic methods. In either case the VPro board will overlap the processor cooling shroud (which causes the VPRo heatsink to foul the O350 processor shroud). The major difference in the two methods is how clearance for the VPro heatsink is acquired.

Neither method requires making any permanent changes to the O350 - any O350 parts that are removed are undamaged and easily replaced (with a bolt or screw) if you wish to return the system to its original server configuration.

The first method requires less metal cutting, but will work only with two-processor O350s. This method requires the removal of the processor cooling shroud (pull the node board and remove the attachment screws from the bottom - but avoid the screws for the RAM supports), and one of the (2) radial exhaust fans (the one blocking the XIO-2 slot on the PCI bulkhead). Removing the processor shroud makes room for the VPro heatsink. The only metal cutting is trimming the sheet metal bulkhead on the VPro (a five minute job with a pair of tin snips), and cutting a small piece of user-supplied angle stock as a fan support. The reason this only works with two-processor O350 is the placement of cooling fans in the space the third and fourth processors would occupy in a four-processor O350. bplaa-yai posted some explanatory photos of this type of conversion: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16719768&p=7303988&#p7303988

The second method will work with either two or four processor O350s, but requires trimming the rear of the VPro heatsink (because the O350 processor shroud is left in place) and installing a radial fan under the graphics board (in a similar fashion to how the factory versions are cooled). The VPro heatsink is easily removed from the PCB and is soft enough to be cut with hacksaw or powered metal saw. There's a write up with photos in this thread (scroll down past the hinv): viewtopic.php?f=14&t=16721099&

The graphics cooling fan(s) will attach to a previously unused three-pin fan header on the O350 system board, and SGI uses a non-standard connection for the fan wiring. Details are in this post: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16719768&p=7301078&#p7301078
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mapesdhs wrote: how right you are. I currently have the cables priced higher than the DM2.

Since the price probably limits your (potential) LVDS cable customers to those with corporate budgets - the very kind who wouldn't be caught dead mucking around with a soldering iron and therefore would still buy from you even if the cable pin-out was publicly available - does that mean you're graciously volunteering to help out your fellow nekochan members by taking five minutes to meter the LVDS cable pin-out.

Or were you just mocking our plight? :D
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mapesdhs wrote: I'll do it when I can...
Thanks Ian - your offer of help is greatly appreciated.
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ThaddeusW wrote:
Thank you for the clear and precise instructions.
You're welcome - I'm glad to see it had a happy ending.

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fu wrote: guys would a snap of the cable suffice? or do you have to crack it open and meticulously examine its guts?
What's needed is a listing of how the wires in side the are routed from one end to the other. While a photo would help identify the cables in question, the needed detail would be hidden from a normal photograph. On the other hand, no disassembly should be required, the internal wiring can be determined from either end with the use of a multi-meter or even a simple continuity tester.
fu wrote: i'll be doing some post work next week, i can ask around if there's any left/hidden in the storage room
If there are any laying around unused, send 'em to me and I'll test them and post the pin-outs. :D
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Rincewind wrote: What kind of sled are used in the O300?
Like they did with the O350, SGI used an off the shelf drive sled in the O300. The O350 sled was also used by Intel/Sun/others, the O300 sled in a few IBM servers.

The O300 sleds are marked with assembly number A06447-00x (where the "x" is either a 1 or a 2).

A very brief eBay search turned up a couple in Italy for 15 euros each: http://cgi.ebay.com/rack-hd-SCSI-SCA2-L ... 5633674311

Except for the latching mechanism, the sleds used by O350 and O300 are identical. If all else fails, you could modify the slightly more common O350 sleds to fit into an O300. bplaa-yai provided photos of the process in this post: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16719820&
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SAQ wrote: So SGI used "real" drive sleds as baffles on the O3x series?
Pretty much, like ianj mentioned, they used a commodity sled with a removable air baffle.

The removable baffle is the tan part in the photo. Hard to make out in my camera phone photo, but "Remove only when installing hard drive device Keep for future use" is printed in the bottom of the baffle in this O300-style sled:
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smj wrote: I for one am very glad they went this way in the O3x0 units... I suppose the same holds true for the Altix 350 and 450s, no?
The Altix 350 / Prism used the same sled as the Origin 350. Haven't ever seen an A450, but the illustrations in TechPubs make it look like they also use the same sled as the O350: http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/tpl/cgi ... #id5202614
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There are screen shot shots of several of IRIX apps in the gallery - perhaps a few you don't already have (and you could link the SS to the entry if you think it's appropriate).

Be sure to look in ajerimez's gallery - it's an especially nice resource for application screen shots.
http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/gallery2/v/guest/
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Here's a few shots of completed fan installation. Installation of a VPro Graphics board requires removal of one of the two 90CFM radial exhaust fans (Pabst RER 101-36/12/12A) found in the headless server version of the Origin 350. With the loss of 90CFM of air flow the issue of primary concern when adding graphics to the relatively restrictive confines of the 2U-sized Origin 350 is cooling. The dual 90CFM fans flow enough air that a stock O350 will heat up if run with the case open, while an O350 with one of the exhaust fans removed (and a graphics board installed) will run cooler with the case open.

This Origin 350 graphics conversion used bplaa-yai's method of removing the processor shroud and installing three fans between the processor node and the VPro graphics board. This method only works with two-processor systems because the fans are positioned where the third and fourth processors would be in a four-processor system. If you have a four-processor Origin 350, or prefer not to remove the processor shroud from a two-processor system, an alternative method of adding VPro graphics is described here: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=16721099 (which is similar in concept to SGI's method of cooling a factory built Onyx InfinitePerformance). Neither method requires making an non-reversible changes to the base Origin 350.

The fan support is a piece of heavy gauge sheet metal angle stock .5"x.5" wide by 10.25" long (the piece of sheet metal angle stock was selected because it closely matches the appearance of rest of the O350 chassis). It's supported on the PCI-side of the O350 by one of the threaded tabs used to secure the case lid, and by a fabricated tab on the power supply side (the tab was added so that the fan support would bisect the chassis at a right angle). The mounting tab on the power supply side is a simple 1" long x .5" wide section of heavy sheet stock with two drilled holes - one end is captured under the screw that closes the power supply cable clamp, the the other end extends outward to support the new fan bracket. The hole drilled hole in the other end of the tab was sized to fit a surplus fan push-pin mount (used to secure the newly added fan bracket to the tab), but a screw and nut would work equally well. To ensure that no contact occurred between the added fan bracket and the power supply cable bundle, the power supply was moved to the outside position (the O350 chassis has provisions for dual power supplies). O350's with a single power supply configuration normally have the power supply installed in the inside position (nearest the node board). In this instance the single power supply was moved to the outside position to ensure the added fan bracket wouldn't make contact with the power supply cable bundle. To prevent any issues with environmental checks done by the L1 controller, the power supply cable bundle was left attached to the same header on the system board (the power supply cable bundle attaches to the power supply with an edge-connector, so the cable bundle can be disconnected at the power supply end and moved there).

The two fans on the outside of the tree-fan array are two 60mm x 25mm Vantec TF6025 Thermoflow temperature controlled fans. These run at between 1900-4200 RPM, 9.9-24.2 CFM and 19-33.5 decibels, and were selected to provide reasonable cooling with minimal additional noise The center fan of the tree-fan array is a 60mm x20mm SuperRed CHA6012CS-A that's rated at 3900 RPM, 19.4 CFM and 29 decibels. The tach wire on the SuperRed is the only one of the three that's wired to the tach pin on the O350 fan connector. The SuperRed was selected because of its static 3900 RPM speed rating. The L1 in the O350 will trigger a (non-fatal) fan warning if the fan attached the the three-pin graphics fan header (located on the system board) drops below 1679 RPM. During a cold start the L1 environmental controller lowers the fan speeds by a percentage of the overall speed rather than to a specific RPM level. That percentage of the 1900 RPM start up speed of the Vantec fans isn't high enough to avoid triggering the warning, so the trick is to select fans that have a speed rating high enough to meet that they'll be above the L1 graphics fan warning level (1679 RPM). The the start up percentage of the fixed 3900 RPM speed of the SuperRed fan is around 1800 RPM (enough to avoid the 1679 RPM L1 fan warning), and even after hours of constant use hasn't exceeded 2200 RPM. At those RPM levels the SuperRed fan isn't noticeable over the original equipment power supply fan or radial exhaust fans, so as an alternative, three SuperRed CHA0612CS-A fans (or a similar fixed speed fan) could be used in all three positions with out adding to the O350's noise footprint.

Regardless of the fans (or cooling method) selected, particular attention should be paid to the fan connection pin-out. The fan header on the O350 system board uses a non-standard pin-out: Pin 1 - 12VDC; Pin 2 - Tach; Pin 3 - Ground (the location of pin 1 is screened on the system board). A 4-pin PWM fan may also be used; the O350 fan header and the PWM fan socket are keyed to allow connection of only the 3 necessary fan wires (although the 12VDC, tach and ground wires should be configured to match the O350 pin-out).

Because the Bedrock ASIC is usually shows up in an L1 'env' query as the hottest part of the system, a low-profile variable-speed thermally-controlled 70mm CPU cooler was added to the top of the Bedrock heat sink (70mm is a perfect fit). The cooler is secured by double-sided foam tape placed between the fan frame and hub and the heatsink. This lowered the Bedrock temperature an average of 8C, and the fan wasn't acoustically noticeable in the running O350.

There's been a few questions in the past concerning support for the VPro PCB. Fuel VPro boards come with a sheet metal support rail screwed to the edge of the board directly opposite of the XIO2 edge connectors. As it comes out of the Fuel that support rail is longer than the VPro PCB by several inches, and as a result would protrude into one of the added cooling fans. The one in the photo has been trimmed so that it was the same overall length as the VPro PCB (using a cut-off wheel, but a hacksaw or even tip-snips would do the job).
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The Origin 350 before modifications. The XIO-2 edge connectors for the VPro graphics board are marked with blue arrows, their position necessitates removal of the radial exhaust fan (just under the tail of the left-most blue arrow). The red arrows indicate the mounting points for the fan bracket that will be added to provide cooling for the processors, Bedrock ASIC and VPro. The metal processor shroud (under the tail of the lower red arrow) will be removed to provide clearance for the heatsink on the VPro board. The yellow arrow points out the location of the unused (until now) 3-pin fan header that controls the graphics board cooling fan. The O350 fan header uses a non-standard pin-out: Pin 1 - 12VDC; Pin 2 - Tach; Pin 3 - Ground. NOTE: A 4-pin PWM fan may also be used; the O350 fan header and the PWM fan socket are keyed to allow connection of only the 3 necessary fan wires (although the 12VDC, tach and ground wires should be configured to match the SGI pinout).
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This system has a two-processor node board. The solder pads for processors three and four can be seen between the fans and the rear of the VPro board, and illustrate why this method wouldn't work with a four-processor node board - the fans are positioned where the third and fourth processors would be located.
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The cooling array of three 60MM fans just behind the processor and Bedrock heatsinks; and a 70mm CPU cooler positioned on the heatsink of the Bedrock ASIC. The three-fan array pulls air across the heatsinks (away from the viewer); the fan on the Bedrock heatsink blows down.
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A 70mm fan from a low-profile CPU Cooler was placed on the Bedrock heatsink (which is flanked by the processor heatsinks.
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The Fuel VPro graphics board is located towards the top right of the photo. The Fuel version of the VPro board comes with a metal support rail that would extend into the area now occupied by the added cooling fans, so the rail was trimmed to be the same length as the VPro board.
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Top view of the fan bracket. The right end was notched so that the bracket sat entirely on the added support tab (see the next photo) rather than on the power supply cable clamp.
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Bottom view of the fans and bracket. The wiring was run across the bottom of the fans and cable-tied in place. The red arrow indicates the tab added under the power supply cable clamp (to support the fan bracket). The O350 chassis has provisions for dual power supplies. Single power supply configurations normally position the single power supply in the inside position (nearest the node board). In this instance the single power supply was moved to the outside position to ensure the added fan bracket wouldn't make contact with the power supply cable bundle. The power supply cable bundle was left attached to the same header on the system board.
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The so far unsubstantiated rumor is that the color difference was only cosmetic - to prevent unintentional cable-crossover during installation. Believe at least a few have tried two black cables, so maybe they'll speak up to substantiate the rumor.

In the mean time you could do a great service to the world of SGI collectors by metering the pin out of one of your black cables: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16724990

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maxsleg wrote: I am NOT impressed by Avis or HWY 101).......
Sorry to hear about your troubles - but hope the closure was transient. Be passing through there pretty soon on the bike on my way to take a right at Puget Sound.
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smj wrote: (I've stuffed this info and a picture into the wiki for future reference.)
Thanks - here's a couple of photos of the part identification labels and the sleds side by side.
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iffy50 wrote:
Can any of the other Maya users on here give me some info about the IRIX version / Maya version and hardware config that they have (assuming that they don't have a similar problem, or even if they do). I'm sure that there's got to be something simple that's wrong,

I'm have Maya 6.5 Unlimited loaded on a Tezro (V12) running IRIX 6.5.30. I don't seem to have the same issue (but I'm not much beyond the Maya-neophyte stage). If you'd like to post a copy of the a file that has those issues I'd be glad to open it to see if the issue is reproducible here..

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When I get home this afternoon I'll take a look and post a reply.

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duck wrote:
No problems loading and displaying your mb file here

Ditto - via the DVI interface on the Tezro, and for the record Maya is still in the as-installed configuration.

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If you have more than one system of a particular type (and the hardware is similar enough to support the same base install), one possibility would be to install just one and make clones of that disk for the rest.

Here's a link to Ian's Cloning guide: http://www.sgidepot.co.uk/disksfiles.html#CLONE
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