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Dr. Dave wrote: Guess I'll have to warm up the soldering iron tonight...
Yer my hero..... :D
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V10 030-1826-002 REV A:

R561B = OFF
R563B = OFF
R565B = ON
R567B = ON <guessing at the full "R" number - it's partially obscured by the heatsink>

R562B = OFF
R564B = ON
R566B = ON
R568B = OFF <guessing at the full "R" number - it's partially obscured by the heatsink>

I can't provide the ID string for the board - nothing to put it in <yet - bought it for reference while researching this thread>
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hamei wrote: I often do that. Kinda messy but you can sort of tell by the sound when you're hitting the sweet spot :)
...or your shoes.
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Dr. Dave - no matter where this ends up, your time and efforts are really appreciated - thank you .
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Dr. Dave wrote: I'm starting to get the feeling that the memory size, CAS, banks, etc. are stored in the config EEPROM on the Vpro board, and that everything seems to reference it from there, reading it through the I2C bus on the card. Since it looks like things are statically linked, more than likely the EEPROM would have to be read and reprogrammed to sort this out.


This project may still have potential.

Who here has the ability to access and copy the contents of the EEPROMs on VPRo board?

bri3d mentioned to me he might be able to sort out the differences if someone could provide him with two copies of the EEPROMs from the 030-1826-00x V10 and the 030-1726-00x V12 <he doesn't have physical access to either board>.
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bri3d wrote: as you can see the bedrock gets pretty hot but I'm at altitude (8000ft) so it might be an effect of that rather than my hacky cooling.

Code: Select all

Advisory   Critical   Fault      Current
Description       State       Temp       Temp       Temp       Temp
----------------- ----------  ---------  ---------  ---------  ---------
6 BEDROCK           Enabled    [Autofan Control]    70C/158F   51C/123F

51C/123F falls under the bedrock fault temp of 70C/158F listed by your L1, but would be above the 48C/118F crtical temp given by nekonoko's O350 <and very close to his system's 55C/131F fault temp>.

The SGI Onyx 350 Visualization System User's Guide gives the average heat dissipation for the Onyx 350 with InifinitePerformance graphics at 1700 Btu/hr average, and a headless Onyx 350 compute module at 1315 Btu/hr average. A fairly large increase when you consider the InfinitePerformance system lost a significant portion of it's exhaust capacity with the removal of one of the two large 112 cfm radial fans <to allow installation of the graphics board>. That may also be why the L1 fan speed table includes a fan speed for 'Odyssey'. The 030-1909-003 V12 SGI uses in the Onyx 350 IP may have a different part number because it includes a fan.

The differences in heat dissipation and exhaust fan capacity is probably the reason the L1 env output <and fault temperatures given> for the headless and IP graphics systems are different. Apparently when an Odyssey board is detected the L1 uses a different table of fan speeds, temps and thermal zones.
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To help this discussion maintain its original focus, I split the issue on the moral aspects of reprogramming an EEPROM to a separate topic. That discussion can be followed here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=16721042
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Congratulations bplaa.yai! I agree with bri3d - nice mod on the V10 bulkhead.

When you get the opportunity, consider posting an hinv and the output of an L1 "env" to add to the info Brian has made available.
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bri3d wrote: Let us know how the environmentals hold up - I see there are fewer fans in that system.

*If* bplaa.yai wants to add additional fans like the three 60mm units that came with your O350, and his nodeboard doesn't include the fan headers like your 1GHz systems does, there might be a workaround <that might also stop the L1 fan warnings>.

He may be able to use 60mm PWM fans routed through a PWM splitter to the 4-pin PWM fan header the radial exhaust fan <replaced by the V10> was originally attached to.
    *NOTE*: The industry standard for PWM fans specifies a specific wire color codes and header pin assignments. <see page 19> :
      Pin 1 - Black <ground>
      Pin 2 - yellow <12VDC>
      Pin 3 - green <sense>
      Pin 4 - blue <control>
    The Papst RER 101-36/12 radial fan that was originally connected to that fan header has non-standard wire colors. The Papst spec sheet lists the color code/function for the RER 101-36/12:
      red - 12VDC
      blue - ground
      white - tach <sense>
      violet - PWM <control>
    When compared with the Papst wire colors, the photos of bri3d and bplaa.yai's O350s seem to indicate SGI used a non-standard pin assignment:
      Pin 1 - 12VDC
      Pin 2 - PWM
      Pin 3 - tach/sense
      Pin 4 - ground
as well as a much larger connector housing/pin spacing, so the connector from the original Papst fan will have to be used. I don't have an O350 to confirm those assignments - so if anyone intends to try this meter the header pins first!!

There is one other long shot - there appears to be an unused three-pin fan header <next to the four-pin PWM fan headers>. This photo <zoomed and cropped from one posted in this thread>, #1 and #2 are the four-pin PWM exhaust fan headers; and #4 is what I suspect might be a three-pin fan header. I say suspect, because the cable attached to the <adjacent and similar>header #3 appears to be routed to the power supply fan at the front of the case <#5>: The function of this header will also need to be metered to prove or disprove its function, but if it is a fan header, it *might* be the intended location for the attachment of the Odyssey fan in the factory version of an Onyx350 IP. If #4 is a three-pin fan header, SGI may not have used standard pin assignments < as was also noted in the Fuel >.

Postscript: SGI's nonstandard pin-out for the 3-pin fan header <labled as #4 in the photo above> is apparently:
    Pin 1 - 12VDC
    Pin 2 - Tach
    Pin 3 - Ground
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Glad to hear that bplaa.yai. Since attaching a fan does stop the warning messages about fan #4, and according to the L1 env, fan #4 is assigned to the Odyssey graphics board, it seems almost certain the 'factory' IP V12 had a fan.

My next guesstimate is that there's an 'exhaust' port for the factory IP Odyssey fan <it appears to be closed in photos of the Origin 350>:
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eMGee wrote:
I wish they still made ARM computer systems, it's all (or mostly) embedded nowadays.


I have an SGI system with an ARM processor <though as you mentioned, embedded>. My signature file is a snippet from the syslog entry produced during the initialization of InfiniteReality Graphics.
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mapesdhs wrote: Funny thing - before Tezro launched, some of the comments I heard from SGI people led me to infer that the system would indeed be linkable in this way, but alas that didn't happen. Pity, would've been cool.

I believe it did happen - if you purchased a Tezro rack system you could link <at least> two.

Though interestingly enough, the rear view illustration in the Tezro Rack Mounted Workstation User's Guide doesn't label the XIO port , or specifically mention it in the accompanying text.

While the nearly identical illustration from the Onyx 350 Visualization System User's Guide does.

An implicit omission to prevent drawing sales from the more expensive Onyx 350 line?
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pentium wrote:
The best information I can get from the card is "PCI Mandrill 0030-00167-0" which googling does not bring up much.
Perhaps a photo of the *other* sides of both boards might be slightly more helpful.

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A step-by-step photo log of the process to add VPro graphics to an Origin 350 follow the hinv related posts.
Code:
hinv -vm
Location: /hw/module/001c01/node
IP53_2CPU Board: barcode NKW201     part 030-1863-001 rev -D
Location: /hw/module/001c01/IXbrick/xtalk/12
ASTODY Board: barcode MLV203     part 030-1726-003 rev -E
Location: /hw/module/001c01/IXbrick/xtalk/15
2U_INT_53 Board: barcode NME262     part 030-1809-006 rev -B
Location: /hw/module/001c01/IXbrick/xtalk/15/pci-x/0/1/ioc4
IO9 Board: barcode NLC357     part 030-1771-005 rev -A
2 600 MHZ IP35 Processors
CPU: MIPS R16000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.1
FPU: MIPS R16010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 2.1
CPU 0 at Module 001c01/Slot 0/Slice A: 600 Mhz MIPS R16000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 2.1. Scache: Size 4 MB Speed 300 Mhz  Tap 0xc
CPU 1 at Module 001c01/Slot 0/Slice C: 600 Mhz MIPS R16000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 2.1. Scache: Size 4 MB Speed 300 Mhz  Tap 0xc
Main memory size: 6144 Mbytes
Instruction cache size: 32 Kbytes
Data cache size: 32 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 4 Mbytes
Memory at Module 001c01/Slot 0: 6144 MB (enabled)
Bank 0 contains 1024 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 1 contains 1024 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 2 contains 1024 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 3 contains 1024 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 4 contains 512 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 5 contains 512 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 6 contains 512 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 7 contains 512 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
Integral SCSI controller 2: Version IDE (ATA/ATAPI) IOC4
CDROM: unit 0 on SCSI controller 2
Integral SCSI controller 3: Version SAS/SATA LS1068
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version QL12160, low voltage differential
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 1)
Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 2)
Integral SCSI controller 1: Version QL12160, low voltage differential
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty3
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty4
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty5
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty6
Graphics board: V12
Integral Gigabit Ethernet: tg0, module 001c01, PCI bus 1 slot 4
Iris Audio Processor: version MAD revision 1, number 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x100a) PCI slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1000, device 0x0054) PCI slot 2
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1216) PCI slot 3
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x14e4, device 0x1645) PCI slot 4
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1412, device 0x1724) PCI slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1033, device 0x0035) PCI slot 2
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1033, device 0x0035) PCI slot 2
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1033, device 0x00e0) PCI slot 2
IOC4 firmware revision 83
IOC3/IOC4 external interrupts: 1
HUB in Module 001c01/Slot 0: Revision 2 Speed 200.00 Mhz (enabled)
IP35prom in Module 001c01/Slot n0: Revision 6.210
USB controller: type OHCI
USB controller: type OHCI
Graphics via a Fuel V12 inserted in the O350's XIO slot.
Code:
/usr/gfx/gfxinfo -v
Graphics board 0 is "ODYSSEY" graphics.
Managed (":0.0") 1280x1024
BUZZ version B.1
PB&J version 1
128MB memory
Banks: 4, CAS latency: 3
Monitor 0 type: NEC 26089
Input Sync: Voltage - Video Level; Source - Internal; Genlocked - False
Channel 0:
Origin = (0,0)
Video Output: 1280 pixels, 1024 lines, 60.00Hz (1280x1024_60)
Video Format Flags:  (none)
Sync Disabled
Using Gamma Map 0
Code:
scsicontrol -i /dev/scsi/sc*
/dev/scsi/sc0d1l0:  Disk          SEAGATE ST336753LC      0005
ANSI vers 3, ISO ver: 0, ECMA ver: 0; supports:  16bit synch linkedcmds cmdqueing
Device is  ready
/dev/scsi/sc0d2l0:  Disk          SEAGATE ST336753LC      0005
ANSI vers 3, ISO ver: 0, ECMA ver: 0; supports:  16bit synch linkedcmds cmdqueing
Device is  ready
/dev/scsi/sc2d0l0:  CD-ROM        MATSHITADVD-ROM SR-8178 PZ21
ANSI vers 0, ISO ver: 0, ECMA ver: 0; supports:
Device is  not ready
As bri3d noticed , the insertion of graphics changed the L1 brick identity from Chimera Server to Chimera Blade:
Code:
ack: 001, slot: 01, partition: none, type: Chimera Blade [2MB flash], serial:NME262, source: EEPROM
L1 Controller Environmental monitoring with V12 installed and several hours run time.
Code:
l1cmd env
Environmental monitoring is enabled and running.

Description    State       Warning Limits     Fault Limits       Current
-------------- ----------  -----------------  -----------------  -------
1.8V    Enabled  10%   1.62/  1.98  20%   1.44/  2.16    1.777
12V <not present>
12V #2    Enabled  10%  10.80/ 13.20  20%   9.60/ 14.40   12.000
3.3V    Enabled  10%   2.97/  3.63  20%   2.64/  3.96    3.320
12V IO    Enabled  10%  10.80/ 13.20  20%   9.60/ 14.40   12.000
5V AUX    Enabled  10%   4.50/  5.50  20%   4.00/  6.00    5.044
3.3V AUX    Enabled  10%   2.97/  3.63  20%   2.64/  3.96    3.268
PCI 5V AUX    Enabled  10%   4.50/  5.50  20%   4.00/  6.00    5.044
PCI 3.3V    Enabled  10%   2.97/  3.63  20%   2.64/  3.96    3.302
PCI 2.5V    Enabled  10%   2.25/  2.75  20%   2.00/  3.00    2.496
PCI 5V    Enabled  10%   4.50/  5.50  20%   4.00/  6.00    4.940
XIO 12V BIAS    Enabled  10%  10.80/ 13.20  20%   9.60/ 14.40   12.000
XIO 5V    Enabled  10%   4.50/  5.50  20%   4.00/  6.00    4.940
XIO 2.5V    Enabled  10%   2.25/  2.75  20%   2.00/  3.00    2.457
XIO 3.3V AUX    Enabled  10%   2.97/  3.63  20%   2.64/  3.96    3.285
IP53 3.3V AUX    Enabled  10%   2.97/  3.63  20%   2.64/  3.96    3.251
IP53 5V AUX    Enabled  10%   4.50/  5.50  20%   4.00/  6.00    5.044
IP53 12V    Enabled  10%  10.80/ 13.20  20%   9.60/ 14.40   12.000
IP53 VCPU    Enabled  10%   1.13/  1.38  20%   1.00/  1.50    1.269
IP53 SRAM    Enabled  10%   2.25/  2.75  20%   2.00/  3.00    2.483
IP53 1.5V    Enabled  10%   1.35/  1.65  20%   1.20/  1.80    1.480

Description     State       Warning RPM  Current RPM
--------------- ----------  -----------  -----------
FAN  0  EXHST 1    Enabled         1980         2177
FAN  1       PS    Enabled         3200         4066
FAN  2    PCI 1    Enabled         1980         2343
FAN  3    PCI 2    Enabled         1980         2576
FAN  4      ODY    Enabled         1679         4272

Advisory   Critical   Fault      Current
Description       State       Temp       Temp       Temp       Temp
----------------- ----------  ---------  ---------  ---------  ---------
0 INTERFACE 0       Enabled    [Autofan Control]    75C/167F   44C/111F
1 INTERFACE 1       Enabled    [Autofan Control]    75C/167F   43C/109F
2 INTERFACE 2       Enabled    [Autofan Control]    75C/167F   35C/ 95F
3 PCI RISER         Enabled    [Autofan Control]    75C/167F   34C/ 93F
4 ODYSSEY           Enabled    [Autofan Control]    75C/167F   35C/ 95F
5 NODE              Enabled    [Autofan Control]    75C/167F   33C/ 91F
6 BEDROCK           Enabled    [Autofan Control]    75C/167F   48C/118F

Zone Temp     Target    Current   Zone Fan   Curr/Min
Zone Name  State     Sensors       Average   Average   Index      Fan %
---------  --------  ------------  --------  --------  ---------  ---------
NODE        Enabled     0,1,2,5,6  47C/116F  40C/104F          0   18%/ 18%
PS          Enabled     0,1,2,5,6  47C/116F  40C/104F          1   55%/ 55%
PCI         Enabled             3  45C/113F  34C/ 93F        2,3   55%/ 55%
ODY         Enabled             4  48C/118F  35C/ 95F          4   55%/ 55%
L1 "serial all" command:
Code:
l1cmd serial all

Data                            Location      Value
------------------------------  ------------  --------
Local System Serial Number      NVRAM         M2008383
Reference System Serial Number  NVRAM         M2008383
Local Brick Serial Number       EEPROM        NME262
Reference Brick Serial Number   NVRAM         NME262


EEPROM      Product Name    Serial         Part Number           Rev  T/W
----------  --------------  -------------  --------------------  ---  ------
INTERFACE   2U_INT_53       NNX272         030_1809_006          B    00
IO9         IO9             NLC357         030_1771_005          A    00
ODYSSEY     ASTODY          MLV203         030_1726_003          E    00
RISER       2U_RISER        NND054         030_1808_006          B    00
NODE        IP53_2CPU       NKW201         030_1863_001          D    00
SNOWBALL    no hardware detected
PS 1        no hardware detected
PS 2        DPS-500EBE      XPD0451009596  060-0178-003          S4

EEPROM     JEDEC-SPD Info           Part Number        Rev  Speed  SGI
---------- ------------------------ ------------------ ---- ------ --------
DIMM 0     CE000000000000000C6F6F00 M3 46L2820BT2-CA0   2B   10.0  N/A
DIMM 2     CE000000000000000C576F00 M3 46L2820BT2-CA0   2B   10.0  N/A
DIMM 4     CE000000000000000CEF8300 M3 46L6423DT3-CA0   3D   10.0  N/A
DIMM 6     CE000000000000000CC18400 M3 46L6423DT3-CA0   3D   10.0  N/A
DIMM 1     CE000000000000000CBD6F00 M3 46L2820BT2-CA0   2B   10.0  N/A
DIMM 3     CE000000000000000C786F00 M3 46L2820BT2-CA0   2B   10.0  N/A
DIMM 5     CE000000000000000C0E8400 M3 46L6423DT3-CA0   3D   10.0  N/A
DIMM 7     CE000000000000000CF48300 M3 46L6423DT3-CA0   3D   10.0  N/A
The conversion from Origin 350 to Onyx 350 took less than two hours, including trimming the V12 bulkhead and heatsink.
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File comment: Unmodified Origin 350 - a Fuel VPro graphics board will replace the lower exhaust fan.
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File comment: Both exhaust fans and support bracket removed. Required removal of only 8 screws, 3 in each fan and 2 for the support bracket (one of the support bracket screws is accessed from the exterior).
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File comment: Fuel VPro Graphics board - the bulkhead and heatsink have been trimmed to fit the Origin 350.
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File comment: There is an opening on the rear of the case just below the position of the installed graphics board. The opening has a cover plate on headless Origin 350s. The cover can be removed and a radial fan installed internally to provide extra cooling.

The openings seen in the graphics board bulkhead should be sealed so the fans will draw cool air through the nodeboard shroud and across the graphics board heatsink, rather than through the opens in the graphics board bulkhead and right back out via the fans.

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File comment: 70mm radial fan (this one is rated at 14.7CFM). The 70mm fan is a tight fit between the PCI riser and the IO9 daughter card. The fan is positioned to exhaust air through an exhaust grill (the grill has a removable cover plate). This photo was taken during a 'test' fit; before final installation a gasket was added to seal the gap between the fan and the case.

This particular fan was used because it was what the local computer parts place had in stock that was the right size. It's a Dynatron 70mm Radial fan, most commonly used on low-profile CPU coolers (for 1U servers). It might be possible to fit larger radial fan if the exhaust ducting is arranged to place the body of the fan behind the IO9 daughter board (seen in the right foreground of the photo).

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File comment: Three-pin header for graphics fan. To avoid L1 "Fan Error" messages, a 3-pin fan that proves fan speed information must be used. The header uses a non-standard pinout: Pin 1 - 12VDC; Pin 2 - Tach; Pin 3 - Ground. NOTE: A 4-pin PWM fan may also be used; the O350 fan header and the PWM fan socket are keyed to allow connection of only the 3 necessary fan wires (although the 12VDC, tach and ground wires should be configured to match the SGI pinout).
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File comment: Upper exhaust fan replaced (without bracket) and a VPro graphics board installed in place of lower fan (the heatsink and bulkhead on the graphics board must be trimmed to allow installation). The large square metal object visible in the graphics board is the backing plate/attachment mechanism for the VPro heatsink. There is a threaded hole in the center of this assembly that will align with an opening in the lid of the O350 - inserting a screw through the O350 lid into the threaded hole will provide support to the graphics board.
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File comment: PROM boot screen after installation of a VPro graphics board from a Fuel (the monitor is a 1600SW).
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File comment: Unused Origin 350 exhaust fan and bracket; and sections trimmed from the graphics board bulkhead / heatsink.
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bplaa.yai wrote:
Haha, welcome to the club ;)
Thanks - you guys made it easy.
bplaa.yai wrote:
I like the way you cut the V10 heatsink to let the cover over the CPUs/bedrock
I had taken the heatsink off while working on the INV_ODSY_MEMCFG_512 thread and got noticed that it probably wouldn't take much to cut it. Once I had the O350 to measure from it was a 10 minute job with a carbide-tipped power saw.
bplaa.yai wrote:
where do you intend to install the extra cooling ?
It's installed - check the fan listing in the L1 'env'. I installed a 70mm PWM fan into what I thought might have been intended as the graphics fan exhaust slot . I plugged the new fan's 4-pin connector into the 3-pin "fan 4" header . Also covered up all of the vents through the V10 bulkhead and gasketed the fan where it attaches to the O350 case <so the fan wasn't sucking air in through the path of least resistance and right back out again>. With a couple hours of run time the Bedrock has held steady at 48c <tho I plan to do a little stress testing this afternoon>.
bplaa.yai wrote:
Anyway, nice to see you got yours :)
Thanks!

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Thanks to all for the kind words!
nekonoko wrote:
Does anyone know the difference between a Tezro rack and a "modded" Onyx 350 InfinitePerformance? They smell the same to me :)
The illustrations and text in the respective owner's guides make the them appear more similar than not. Interestingly, SGI avoids *any* mention in the Tezro rack user's guide of the external XIO port <and by proxy, the Router brick and other XIO connected expansion bricks> - perhaps to give some "marketing distance" between the rack Tezro and what was probably the relatively more expensive Onyx Infinite Performance?

There are probably some differences in the PROM <I say probably, but I'm sure *someone* here has the skills required to look> to produce the differing PROM splash screens and the machine type info seen by inst:
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CPUARCH=R10000
IP35
CPUBOARD=IP35
MODE=64bit
SUBGR=IP35
GFXBOARD=ODYSSEY
MACHINE=Onyx3 InfinitePerformance, Fuel


Geoman wrote:
your machine has this temperature monitoring, you can alway check if everything is ok.
The monitoring system is pretty nice. The L1 environmental monitoring lists "Target Average" and "Current Average" temperatures for a number of key components <and even which "Zones" are monitored>. The system can automatically adjust the fan speeds for temperature increases/decreases; will increase fan speeds if one fan fails, and shut the system down if two fail or any of the monitored zones exceeds the listed 'fault temp'. If there are any problems with system fans or temperatures, the "Service Required" LED on the front panel will activate and the L1 display will scroll the appropriate error or fault message.

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I still have one of the SGI Freeware apps installed on my Octane. When displayed on the Octane the window matches the decor of all of the other open apps. If I install the same Freeware application on a different system, or remotely display the app from the Octane, I get the default 'blue' Motif decor that Martin mentions.

The drives in my Octane are some <or clones of some> that I've upgraded and carried forward for years. Somewhere along the line I installed or modified something to produce the difference, but I'll be damned if I can spot <or even remember> what that was. From somewhere I get the faint recollection of a nekochan post <or maybe even comp.sys.sgi.*> that described the process to get the Octane to where it is, but I can't dredge it up with a search. The changes in application appearance don't appear to be related to user config changes - I can copy my entire directory from /usr/people from one box to another, and the behavior doesn't migrate with the user files.

It may be a red herring, but as long as the install base on the Octane has been around, I probably installed some variant of Buffy GTK somewhere along the line. The Octane is down at the moment for some SCSI peripheral swapping, so I'm not certain if I installed the Freeware version of Buffy GTK or the one neko made ; or even what <if any> bearing it has on the issue.

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Added an mAudio Revolution 7.1 <the OEM for the SGI DMediaPro DM8 PCI Audio Option> and an LSI SAS3442X PCI-X SAS/SATA HBA. There's currently a SATA DVD-RW hanging off the SAS3442X; wanted to re-try the SATA DVD-RW with a clean install.

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nekonoko wrote:
I'm sure you're well aware, but you do have native IDE should a SATA DVD-RW not work out :)
Yeah - I was throwin' a Hail Mary for hamei..... <but it looks like Staubach stayed on the bench for this one>.

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hamei wrote: is it possible to Numalink an O300 to an O350 ? Or does the serial number thingy prevent that ?
Looks like it's been done before.....
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=12843&
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hamei wrote: There ya go, wreck. Numa that new arrival on top of the previous O300's and you've got a big-ass deskside for scientific computing :)
Thought about it - but I'm not sure if IRIX would play nice when it found systems with InfinitePerformace and InfiniteReality graphics Numalinked together.
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bri3d wrote: In addition, I discovered something new about the Origin 350: It can have one of three types: ..... Chimera Blade (Onyx350 IP?) - happens when V10 is inserted....
This status can be viewed from the brick command, for example:

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rack: 001, slot: 01, partition: none, type: Rackmount WS [2MB flash], serial:NGLxxx, source: EEPROM
rack: 001, slot: 02, partition: none, type: Chimera Server [2MB flash], serial:NRTxxx, source: EEPROM
The L1 controller in my 'graphics added' O350 logs this at boot:

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06/10/09 10:57:08 L1 booting 1.34.8
06/10/09 10:57:08 ChiServ IP53
06/10/09 10:57:08 Checking for Type
06/10/09 10:57:08  - ChiBlade Type set
I'll try manually setting the system type and check again after the next boot or L1 reset.
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pentium wrote:
OMG! AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! I'M GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!! AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! HELP ME!!!!!!

Thought for a minute one of maxsleg's girls from Roppongi Hills got to you.....
:D

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Which serial port are you connected to? If you're not already there try the second serial port. It probably wouldn't hurt make sure that chkconfig wacomd has the flag set to on.

If you're able to run the Wacom Control Panel <Toolchest > Control Panels>, you might find additional diagnostic help there, and the <reasonably helpful> manuals should be available from the Wacom Control Panel as well <tho as I recall they aren't installed unless you ran the separate install script in the /opt directory in the untarred Wacom driver file>.
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tjsgifan wrote: In my system (which I have now got some photos of) the DM3 board has it's own cooling fan attached underneath, which is the same I guess as the one used in the graphics option.

Thanks for taking the time to take and post those photos Toby!

I used Toby's photos to look up the fan. It's a Delta BFB0712H radial fan <also known as a blower>, 75mm x 75mm x 30mm, 2900RPM, 11.3CFM. Both Delta's spec sheet and Digi-Key's web page list the BFB0712H as a two-wire fan <no tach sense/speed control>, but Toby's photo clearly shows a three-wire fan, so this one might be an SGI custom.

Interesting arrangement on the DM3. It appears the fan is attached to a metal shroud on the bottom of the DM3. It apparently draws air across the DM3, through an opening in the shroud and then exhausts out the opening on the case below the DM3.
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josehill wrote:
Maybe we could put together a directory-style wiki page or a sticky topic somewhere where people can add links to their external galleries.
A member's signature file would be a good location for that info - though I generally won't follow links to public photo hosting sites. Some <but not all> recover the cost of operation by feeding visitors tracking cookies and selling the info <or access> to marketing firms. Easy enough to block, but not something I appreciate in the first place.

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tillin9 wrote:
just offering to be a helpful US enthusiast to pick up local hardware and forward it to him in Slovakia at cost. I still have my $600 shipping bill (Octane2s and VBOBs are heavy) of which I was paid less than half. Not to mention the customs nonesense he put me through.


Probably a coincidence, but there's a similar system for sale in Slovakia: http://cgi.ebay.com/SGI-Octane-2-2x400M ... 1|294%3A50

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fez wrote:
ARGH! After a regular install of the 6.5.23 on my O2 and a reboot the workstation start with no problem, ask me the root password but after this display only the X cursor, anything on the screen...
What's the switch for "chkconfig desktop" set to?

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Thanks!
I was able to get the temps for hard drives on different controllers without any problem:

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# ./scsimon /dev/scsi/sc0d1l0
Inquiry response: [SEAGATE ST336753LC      0005]
Current temperature: 34C/93F
Maximum temperature: 68C/154F
Self-test data:
0: uptime=0h  code='bg short'  result='completed OK'
1: uptime=0h  code='bg short'  result='completed OK'
# ./scsimon /dev/scsi/sc0d2l0
Inquiry response: [SEAGATE ST336753LC      0005]
Current temperature: 32C/89F
Maximum temperature: 68C/154F
Self-test data:
0: uptime=0h  code='bg short'  result='completed OK'
1: uptime=0h  code='bg short'  result='completed OK'
# ./scsimon /dev/scsi/sc7d2l0
Inquiry response: [SEAGATE ST373405LC      2203]
Current temperature: 32C/89F
Maximum temperature: 65C/149F
Self-test data:
# ./scsimon /dev/scsi/sc11d2l0
Inquiry response: [SGI     ST373307LC      2743]
Current temperature: 26C/78F
Maximum temperature: 68C/154F
Self-test data:
0: uptime=1h  code='bg short'  result='completed OK'
1: uptime=1h  code='bg short'  result='completed OK'
though the drive on controller 7 didn't return self-test data.
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ShadeOfBlue wrote: Update : the new version also displays drive uptime and can trigger self-tests (use the -t option, e.g. "-t short" for a short self-test, you can also use the short notation "-ts" instead)
It can be downloaded from the original post.
Heres's the results of a test run using the updated version with extended test option:

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# # ./scsimon -te /dev/scsi/sc0d2l0
Performing self-test ...
Inquiry response:       [SEAGATE ST336753LC      0005]
Current temperature:    31C/91F
Maximum temperature:    68C/154F
Drive uptime (total):   1477790 minutes (= 1026d 5h 50m)
Next internal test in:  46 minutes
Self-test data (newest first):
0: uptime=0h  code='bg extended'  result='in progress'
1: uptime=0h  code='bg short'  result='completed OK'
2: uptime=0h  code='bg short'  result='completed OK'
and after the extended tests were completed:

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# ./scsimon /dev/scsi/sc0d2l0
Inquiry response:       [SEAGATE ST336753LC      0005]
Current temperature:    33C/95F
Maximum temperature:    68C/154F
Drive uptime (total):   1477803 minutes (= 1026d 6h 3m)
Next internal test in:  34 minutes
Self-test data (newest first):
0: uptime=24630h  code='bg extended'  result='completed OK'
1: uptime=0h  code='bg short'  result='completed OK'
2: uptime=0h  code='bg short'  result='completed OK'
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Not an anime fan?

You, I and the most popular sgi forum in the world are guests here. Among other things our host gets to provide focus for discussion *and* decorum.



Oh, and the 'scantily dressed cat-women' were here first - they predate the forum.

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bplaa.yai wrote: OK, I finally took the time to finish my cooling setup.
I went for 3 delta fans (FFB0612VHE, spec sheet here ), mounted on a home made aluminium mount.
The only drawback is that I only get rpm ready from one fan out of three.
Nicely done! Makes for a very clean installation - and I'm sure they more a fairly significant amount of air.
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ritchan wrote:
Judging from the response, I guess nobody cares about ONScripter for workstations
If you'd like to generate interest in a new port, it might not hurt to include a reference link or a brief description of what the application is used for.

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I'd have to throw in another vote for the venerable IBM Model M . Over the years I've managed to collect 6 or 7 variants of the Model M. Everything from an original mid-1980s era PS/2 version to the fairly obscure 13H6705 <the only black Model M and one of the few with an integrated track point>, but the one I use the most is the relatively compact Model M2 <part #1395300> that originally shipped with the short-lived IBM PS/1 computer system.

Love the tactile feedback from a bucking spring keyboard, and from my perspective the M2 is about as good as it gets. It makes the SGI Indy/I2 era model 9500900 that's connected to the system next to it feel very 'dead' in comparison.
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When you have the chance you'll have to give us some real world feedback on the DG-5/GVO. I've thought about buying one but long ago learned most SGI video options weren't designed with the casual user in mind <with a hobbyist's budget for the required ancillary devices>.
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As long as you have a fairly recent PROM revision your Octane, the V6, and the PROM will get along just fine. You can run inst from the PROM menu and install the necessary upgrades from there. The Octane/Octane2 Workstation VPro Graphics Upgrade Kit Installation Guide on TechPubs has a walk through of the process. I've linked the section that deals specifically with your question: http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/tpl/cgi ... ml#id18610

You can also check man inst for additional details on running inst from the PROM as well as the keep * and install fresh commands.
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Vyk wrote: Is there a way to see exactly what's happening during the boot process, rather than just "The system is coming up"?

I'd suggest booting with a serial terminal connected to serial port one <disconnect the keyboard and mouse before you power up the system>. You may be able to boot the system when it's headless, and even if not, it's likely you see error and/or diagnostic messages you won't when booting headed mode.

If you use another computer with a serial terminal emulation program, set a very large scroll back buffer and save the session output as a text file.
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I queried "firewire" and "fuel" and found these <not too promising> threads:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16719300&
Unfortunately it looks like nothing much has changed from December '08:
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=16719650&
In December 2008 you wrote:
strandedinnz wrote:
I suppose the next question is .... how do I capture video from a firewire device ?
jan-jaap wrote:
I'm afraid the short answer is 'you don't'.


The search brought back a few more, but unfortunately I think those two pretty much sum up the current state of the fuel-firewire-video situation.

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Is there a part number or other manufacturer info on the switch - just in case SGI used an off the shelf part?
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archaic wrote: It is a Cherry Electric F81JB110 F80 Series Line Interrupt
Thanks!

Looks like the F81JB110 is obsolete. You might find a few still around somewhere, and Cherry makes others in the F80 series that might have similar specs.

Digi-Key carries several others in the F80 line: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSea ... Cherry+F80

They've got a data sheet available if you need specs, measurements or wiring diagrams: http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switc ... Series.pdf

If the barriers around the actuator aren't a requirement for functionality, this one at least looks similar < drawings/diagrams of the dimensions and other details are linked on the Digi-Key Product page >. I don't have a VW540 to compare it to, so please confirm suitability before buying one.:
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