The collected works of foetz - Page 35

a "where" might give some more usable info
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okay no luck there.

well, how is the system otherwise? is that the only problem you have?
anyway since this is a fresh installation the fastest method would be installing it again. on the target machine this time of course.
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jpstewart wrote: try adding -dynamic after -mips3.

it's "-B dynamic"
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  • jansson_27.tar.bz2
  • shred.bz2
  • vim_74.tar.bz2

jansson is a json lib and the additional gvim is the motif version.
i don't know how well shred works with advfs but it's useful in many ways anyway.
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you're welcome :-)
btw in case you haven't spotted it already, i do have gtar. just have a look in my tru64 dir linked in the first post
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how did you fix it?
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sure, will give it a try ...

EDIT: okay this was a bust. configure options ignored, obviously never tested it on a real 64bit system and likely not on anything else but glibc/gcc. when i hit an unresolved symbol while linking nothing but sudo's own objects i trashed it :twisted:
if i may ask, you're looking for bash, gcc, sudo, gnutar ... why do you wanna run tru64? :P i mean you obviously wanna simulate linux so why not going for that in the first place?
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mazzinia wrote: well, I found out that there was a mipspro 4.2.2 installed , and 4.4 partial runtimes, and so on.
First I've used the overlay to mipspro 4.4.4m, then I've kept re running all the sgi made cds I had until they all were showing "same version" or "older version" and 0 conflicts.

you mean 7.x. there never was a mipspro 4.4.x.
anyway what do you mean by "found out"? i thought the installation was new?
or did somebody else install it?

Adding the subdirectories (dev) of the 6.5.30 apps / complimentary apps helped bigtime (to the point that all Cosmo Suite parts installed with 0 conflicts with the most recent java)
Pity for the o2 demo cd (damaged), and the lack of the mekton demo

seems there's a lot installed. if there's a problem, it's usually a good idea to slim down as much as possible.
anyhow i don't see how installing some dev stuff would fix a crashing inst.
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mazzinia wrote: I think it was straight 6.5.28 and then overlayed to .30.

no, there is no "straight". everything but 6.5.0 is an overlay but you can install an overlay in one go together with the 6.5.0 base release.

I really only would like that the rsqall would not last that long ( suppose that with a 300mhz r5000, the time would go down by 50% due also to the cache )

yeah this is way too long. given the quite big inst index and the problems you had (and still have) i'd assume that the installation is messed up somehow.
as mentioned before, i'd re-install it and go for a rather light selection at first. then, later when irix is running you can install more
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Krokodil wrote: Dare I say that IRIX and the hardware go hand in hand.

absolutely. i'd hate to see it running on some kid's supermarket laptop :P
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anyone watched extant? :P
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dukzcry wrote: Maybe 6.2 too?

yes, the one you're looking for has been introduced with irix 5 and shipped with 6.2 for the last time.

I know that at least with 6.5.0 it started to look boring:

yes the 6.5.0 system manager looks different but this screen shot doesn't show 6.5.0
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dukzcry wrote: So,
PRISMS -> Houdini,
PowerAnimator -> Maya.
Anything else to look at?

gig3d you meant ElectroGIG 3DGO.

Wavefront - isn't it a company name? :)

have a look at my reviews if you're interested in the details :-)
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hamei wrote:
robespierre wrote: I would look for Houdini Master, SoftImage 4.0, Lightwave 5.6, and Maya 6.5... they should all work on that machine.

Lightwave runs like a rocket. Not sure why it isn't more popular ?

lightwave's modeler is great if you're fine with just polys. the renderer is neat, too. the rest however can't compete with the big names
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oh i didn't mean linux on the alpha but linux in general
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just in case you haven't noticed, it doesn't show up with subsilver
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that's a great offer diegel. for a site like this a vps would be more than enough :-)
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i don't think i'd be needed if diegel has his own isp :P
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sure i got that but it didn't sound like you wanna get rid of it right now :shock:
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i don't think anyone wants you to retire. they're just thinking of cheaper solutions following up on what you said in this very thread
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vishnu wrote: I'm CTO for the website soyouvebeendumped.com

seriously? :P
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now that's a nice freebie :D
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rosehillbob wrote: I just finished building the GNU ADA compiler 4.7.4 on Tru64 5.1. The compiler also includes the 'C' (no C++ didn't build it but you can add it from source) as well. Where do I upload it if anyone is interested in a copy?

thanks for that!
we have no special place for single, non-nekoware contributions. just upload it to ftp.nekochan.net/incoming and send neko a pm :-)
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mia wrote: The versions of openssl+openssh you have ported are relatively old, is it because the new ones didin't compile?

well the openssl was released 2 weeks before i built it. not that old i'd say :P
as for ssh, that's indeed older but if you don't use pam or x11 there's no remote hole. might be time for an update tho
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openssl 1.x was quite a roller coaster so far. a lot of nasty stuff since its release as well as several incompatibilities. at the time i built the first bunch of osf packages it hadn't reached a serious state yet so i held on to 0.98 for the time being.
having 2 versions of the same lib is a tricky endeavour as you know so for now it's probably best to keep an 1.x version outside of the usual dirs under /usr/local ... will try a few combinations to see what works best in practice
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vishnu wrote: Silly duck

mean :lol:
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added a mirror server. see first post
mirror added. see first post
mirror added. first post has the details
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mia wrote: danke!

:P
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Krokodil wrote: Lol. Tru64 renaissance.

why not, isn't that what this whole site is about?
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Krokodil wrote: What about VMS? :)

wrong thread :twisted:
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  • openssl_102d.tar.bz2
  • openssh_71p1-ssl1.tar.bz2
  • openssh_71p1.tar.bz2
  • openssl_098zg.tar.bz2

openssl_102d and openssh_71p1-ssl1 are just the folders, no setld kits. they expect to reside in /usr/local. by that they're outside of the usual dirs under /usr/local and don't interfere. ssh, as always, needs zlib.
the others are "regular" updates i.e. setld kits which can replace previous versions or be installed fresh of course.
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  • xv.bz2

you're welcome. and one more classic added
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mia wrote: or pretty much any advanced shell (zsh, etc.)

did you try my zsh?

a window manager that doesn't suck; CDE is way to big, twm is "okay", mwm is getting old.
I'm thinking dwm/blackbox/openbox or something like that; small is good; dwm+dmenu from suckless.org might be simple.

that's a tad too much for what my time permits but ...

extra points for: lynx, links2, rsync and perl and emacs (one can dream).

... these sound good :-)
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congrats Pontus. seems you got yourself a pair of real classics there :D
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nekonoko wrote: gcc is now on par with MIPSPro for code speed, so it shouldn't be an issue performance wise

that's wrong. just recently i discovered that something as basic as the string class is multiple times slower with g++ (yes, even using ShadeOfBlue's options).
also diegel started replacing some of the libs for his firefox with mipspro builds because of the speed difference.

gcc got better but mipspro is the first choice as it always has been
nekonoko wrote:
foetz wrote: that's wrong.


Hey, I'm just passing on what's been argued to death on this very forum for years now. I'm certainly not the originator of those claims.

oh no offence intended in any way. just wanted to set dexter on the right track
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hamei wrote: I have started going in a different direction and so far, pretty happy with it. Same goal, just a different path ...

To me, when nekoware was started the gnu stuff was either pretty good or had a lot of potential. But since then, much of it has turned to crap.

We aren't going to change those people. gtk2 for instance, is just garbage. Not only is it awful to build, what you end up with is still pointless trash. I really really really need thirty gigabytes of html docs in Tibetan -- not !! The nitwits hardcode gcc into everything, the code is often stinkypoo, new-age gnu apps are repulsive. If you work your way up the gtk2 chain reading the release notes, the shit they did is appalling. Kindergarteners should not be allowed to play with software.

well that's the other important point and indirectly solves the gcc question as well. the point being: which "modern" freeware is actually worth having?
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armanox wrote: Depends on what you're doing - I built PHP, OpenSSL, HTTPD, and MySQL just to run a Drupal site. All in the eye of the user.

of course, server stuff is relatively easy in comparison in most cases. a recent mysql not so much but you get the idea.
anyhow since opengl and gtk2 was mentioned it seems this "check" is rather targeted at desktop stuff
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