The collected works of deBug - Page 3

A new Vector game for my SGIs, how COOL is that! (Tempest is still one of my favorite Arcade game)
I'll check it out during the Christmas holiday.

Thanks for producing cool stuff to our colored boxes Martin!

//Harry

PymbleSoftware wrote:
Yep. It compiles cleanly. Runs like a 3 legged dog on the dual Octane. I haven't got around to packaging it.

I might be able to help out with the packaging (cant guarantee anything though)
If you can upload it somewhere and tell me the deps. I could probably wrap it up.

Thanks for your compiling efforts.

Cheers!
//Harry

PymbleSoftware wrote:

eMGee wrote: Pixie as in the RenderMan implementation?

I take it that no one has the IRIX version of BMRT floating around...
http://web.archive.org/web/200202070511 ... index.html

http://se.mirror.nekoware.net/SGI_Info/ ... other.html

Oskar45 wrote: ...to all of you and, for 2011, whatever you wish for yourself shall come your way

PS: Actually, we might not see next X-mas at all - Carl Calleman predicts the end of the world occurs on October 28, 2011 and not on December 21, 2012 as other so-called Maya specialists claim

Seems we made it after all

ajerimez wrote: It took almost a year, but I finally found time to make the retrospective on the Mac Color Classic that I promised at the end of my ThinkPad video. This time, my friend Jason did the voiceover, and I spent more time on the lighting and editing to create a more professional look (I hope!).

Hope you enjoy. After the Gateway 2000 video, I'll probably do one about the SGI O2.

Great video!
Very professional narrated and shot.
I don't know much about Macs but now at least I know something about the color classic!

Harry

nuts wrote: When I stop to the maintenance I can't use the LAN so I can"t install systems on my octane.
If I boot on IRIX, the network works well, but in the Prom, I'm unable to ping py others computers. I try "resetenv" and reset the netaddr and srvaddr but no changes: it doesn't work!

Network trouble shooting in prom mode can be a bit confusing as there is no easy way of assigning IP number and checking that the Network Interface is working.
In prom mode your wont get an IP number until you try to netboot your computer.
I usually check my DHCP server if it handed out an IP number to my SGI computer and then ping the SGI computer from another machine if I want to verify the connection.

That said I'd never had an SGI with a built-in NIC that didn't boot from an IRIX bootp server if it was connected in the same switch as the SGI.
It usually just works.
As a netboot server you can either use another IRIX box and set it up for netboot, or use the virtual applience "DINA" running on a PC.

Good luck with the trouble shooting.

//HArry

PymbleSoftware wrote: I have about 5 or 6 things I have built that other people want and never got around to packaging...
I think it would be cool if people who can package and test put their hand up and volunteer to package stuff.
R.

I'll bite.
Let me know how I can download it and I'll do it when I have time. (Not for another three weeks)
I need to spend some quality time in my SGI room.

//Harry

Roboinst would be the preferred way of doing autmatic multiple installs.
I use an O2 for that as it has a 100Mb NIC.
You can read up on Roboinst in the SGI docs.
If your interested you can get my config files to get you started, I have config iles mostly for 6.5.22 installs.

You type a command at PROM and it will boot, partition the drive and Install the OS fully automatically, hands off.
It's a beautiful thing when you got it all set up!

You can easily add your own, Nekoware, Freeware software at the same time.

The PROM command would be :


//Harry

uridium wrote: @debug:

I'd be interested in seeing it out of curiosity (not that I have >1 machine at the moment). Worth putting a factoid page up on how to drive roboinst on the wiki for fresh punters?

Al.

Yeah I know, I already promised in one thread that I will write something up, but you know... time... spare time... free time... etc
I'll see if I can post my config, that should get interested parties a head start.

I originally wanted to make DINA fully automatic and port roboinst (it seems to be just a bunch of scripts) but I found out that the check-sum calculation is done by a binary so that can not be ported to DINA (x86 NetBSD)
I tried to move over all the config and IRIX stuff from a working roboinst to DINA but the client SGI would not boot properly so there are some voodoo stuff going at boot on that I don't understand.

I really like the idea of being able to create a fully automated install process.
Ideally it would contain all the great software and have a menu system where you choose what to install.
Or possible predefined sets like "Developer machine" or "Game and Demo machine" etc.
This is what I am trying to do nowadays when I spend time with my SGIs.
I have also started a "repacking" effort for some software like for example Adobe Photoshop so that instead of using the stupid original installer script and answer the meaningless question I have investigated what the script does and have done what Adobe should have done in the first place - created a tardist that installs Photoshop.
So the idea is to have all of IRIX, Nekoware and commercial software installable from a single PROM command
Time will tell if I will ever succeed with that effort.

josehill wrote: ...but Roboinst requires a license on the installation server, IIRC.

That is common misconception.
I believed the same by just glancing the documentation but if you read it in detail you will find that a license is only needed for after-installs.
Roboinst has two working "modes"
1 Do a install from PROM
2 Do additional install from IRIX.
Only the second mode requires a license.

So you do not need a license for roboinst as long as you do them from PROM

//Harry

astouffer wrote: What is the trick to getting audacity running? After installing audacity there were complaints of pango and fontconfig missing so I installed them. It keeps telling me to run pango-querymodules but I can't find this file anywhere on my system. Any ideas?

Hi astouffer.
Your chances to get an answer would probably increase if you provided more information in your question.
At least for me, these things are still unclear:
1 Are your talking about neko audacity?
2 What was the error message when you tried to run audacity?

It is somewhat strange that pango and fontconfig was not installed if they are a prerequsit for audacity?
It has happened before that an Neko tardist don't properly describe its prerequisites so that could be the case here or it could be that you did a override of the prereq at install.
So a bit more information on how you did the instal might also be useful for anyone trying to help you in the trouble shooting.

Regards
//Harry

.. and kick me off supportfolio registered area.
R.

Didn't you get the mail from SGI a couple of weeks ago instructing you to login to your account or it would be deleted?

No more women kissing as avatar?? (who where they anyway?)
//Harry

PymbleSoftware wrote: Well Harry, the red head is a Welsh unmarried woman who happens to be the prime minister of Australia
R.

Oops, sorry for my ignorance.
Your politicians seem to be ... colorful

Didn't mean to hijack the thread, carry on!

MrWeedster wrote: Hi there.

Today i got a new Toy, a nice O2 R12k.

Because i have no root pw and wanted to install it new anyway, i decided to do so with my pre configured fuel which acts as bootp and netinstall server. It acted as install server in previous installations of other machines, so i dont think the fuel or the images on it are broken.

I did it like described here: http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/ ... a_SGI_Fuel
Besides the fact the automatic response file doesnt works (it only loads my first overlay disc and then asks about what to open next) i followed the steps in this tutorial, stating the keep and install commands manually.

I always get this error:

ERROR: No product corresponding to "" at line 628 of cosmoplayer.idb.

If i decide to not install cosmoplayer then it mocks about mozilla.idb.

If i remove mozilla*:
ERROR: Missing symval attribute for etc/rc.0.d/K27sgi_apache at line 4 of sgi_apache.idb.

And so on.

I think if i remove * it would run ^^

I searched the net a bit and only found some threads about upgrading irix which stated that this error comes up if someone didnt install path5086 prior upgrading, which isnt the case. I would make a fresh install of 6.5.30f

Can someone help me with this?



Another question regarding the O2:

How can i remove the dark blue bottom without destroying it?
And is there a way to access the frontplane without destroying anything?


Thanks

I think the original assessment of missing patch 5086 is correct, it seems it cant read the CDs correctly.
One suggestion is to install the base 6.5 IRIX, then patch it rebot and upgrade to 6.5.30

//Harry

I would love to take these of your hands as I'm in SF for a few days but I think the overweight fees on the return trip would be less fun ).
Good luck with the sales.

//Harry

If you are only interested in sound out you can use an USB sound dongle.
The rule seems to be if the sound dongle works without drivers in an Win XP install it will work in IRIX (HID device I guess)
I have plugged in Logitech USB headsets, China manufactured dirt cheap USB dongles etc. and they all worked.
I have also run in to USB dongles that do not work, it seems the the cheaper and less sofisticated they are the bigger chanse they will work.
So scavenge around your junk box and see what USB sound devices you might already have at hand and try them out.

//Harry

Bring up the task manger
Click the "Performance" tab.
Click the "Resource Monitor.." button
In the Resource manager click the "disk" tab.
It will display all processes that use the disk and the read/write load for each process.

//Harry

Hmm, I use Seamonkey quite often so that must be one of the candidates from my perspective.
Followed my Midnight Commander for file management.
And then of cource there is a bunch of cool commercial software like Josehill mentioned.
Alias 3D software etc.
The OpenGL paint software that is free but the name eludes me...

And of course Quake 1, especially on an Onyx running 1280x1024 resolution on an old 21" CRT

SleepyRegions wrote: Using a Compact Flash card adapted to IDE adapted to 50-pin SCSI for installing and booting IRIX on an older IRIS (PI or Indigo).
I notice the classic Mac enthusiasts are trying this: here and here .
Anyone tried it? Any technical reasons it wouldn't work with IRIX?

I know the classic Mac OS is a lot smaller, a lot less demanding, and a lot more forgiving than IRIX.

I tried it on an Indy.
Yahma SCSI to IDE that I got from hamei.
Then and an IDE to CF converter, IRIX didnt like my CF converter so didn't work, never tried with another IDE-CF converter, it worked on a PC and the SCSI to IDE converter worked just fine with a real harddrive.

In the end I settled for a quiet IDE hard drive in the Indy and did not bother with the CF card.

//Harry

The time has come for me to downsize.
I will be moving to a smaller apartment and will not have a dedicated SGI room many more.
So after thinking allot of what to do with my SGI gear, sell them, put them in storage etc,
I did the best thing, I past them on to my friends and collectors of SGI, Tessla and Björn.
They will be in good hands and live on to be tinkered with.

It's easy to become nostalgic but they have served me well and it's nice to know they will live on.


//deBug

Hi, I'm looking for an inexpensive PC or Mac for my daughter.
She lives in the US and need something for her college studies in California.

If you have something inexpensive please PM me.

Thank you!
//deBug

Pontus wrote: Good luck with your new apartment and endeavours! Lucky tesla, I think we fought over that Onyx on tradera

Regards,
Pontus.

Thank you Pontus!
I'm really looking forward to the new city and appartment and new GF and everything.

I think you confusing my Onyx with Björns.
This onyx came from NASA Langley Research Center in Virginia, I had it shipped by boat so I'm pretty sure it was never on Tradera

Regards
//Harry