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I'd like to try it but since the last time I used any free linux/bsd was close to 10 years ago, I expect to take a while to get it working :)

That said, I do know how to follow instructions :mrgreen:
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After fooling around for a bit with FreeBSD, I wasn't able to get *anything* working with my thinkpad. The display brightness, sleep/resume, wi-fi, trackpad. All of it. xfce and chrome installed easily enough, but it's no fun having burned eyeballs perched next to my wifi router with a 3' ethernet cord (seriously, do they even make ethernet cords anymore? I don't think they sell them in the stores...

So I installed Linux Mint, and hell, I think even Hammie would approve of this linux :) It took less than 5 minutes to install, and all of the above features work out of box. In fact, sleep/resume is even faster than windows. I would argue it is as fast as my old macbook running OSX. It's certainly a lot less buggy than the last version of OSX. :twisted: which prompted trading in the macbook for a thinkpad in the first place...

Now I will be getting Maxx running on mint. Sorry Foxxxie, but you're on your own :( Years of using Apple products have reduced my tolerance and patience levels below what is required for getting FreeBSD going on a laptop, at least a thinkpad.
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OK Maxxi,

Fresh install of Mint 17.2 here.

I tried running the install script. It ran successfully after pointing the links to your new url (tho, it still says successful install even if it can't find the tarball...). I also added the paths to /etc/ld.so.conf and ran ldconfig:

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/opt/MaXX/lib/
/opt/MaXX/lib64/
/opt/Maxx/OpenMotif-2.3.1/lib
/opt/Maxx/OpenMotif-2.3.1/lib64
/opt/Maxx/OpenMotif-2.1.32/lib
/opt/Maxx/OpenMotif-2.1.32/lib64


At this point I am able to run the toolchest, nedit, gr_osview, gmemusage, hinv,fm :D Just seeing the beautiful italicized fonts in toolchest warms my heart.

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./hinv
4 1000 MHz GenuineIntel Processors PF 6
CPU:  Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2520M CPU @ 2.50GHz Processor Chip Model  42 Stepping  7
FPU:  yes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 3.0 MBytes
Main memory size: 3836 Mbytes
Audio Processor: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller
Graphics board: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection
13 additional PCI devices
5 USB devices

However, all is not well. I probably have to add the new executable paths still. Also, I can't run winterm:

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./winterm
Warning: Cannot convert string "-sgi-screen-medium-r-normal-*-*-150-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct
/opt/MaXX/bin/mxterm: symbol lookup error: /opt/MaXX/bin/mxterm: undefined symbol: getColorResource


or ideas:

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./ideas
./ideas: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


Of course, when I try to log in with MaXX set as my session, I get nothing but a blue screen and red cursor and need to kill X from another terminal. (I suppose the vulcan death grip has not been implemented yet?? :D )
But.. I have set my cursors to red in cinnamon already. I feel my life has improved significantly with just red cursors :)

Any hints? If not I will keep at it.

Edit: added a screenshot with some working programs in Mint:
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I would guess... rotary encoder.
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Chelsea Tractors? Around here we call those things "compacts" :) I just fitted a new stereo in mine.

Don't worry, I also have my little mazda project car.

But we also live in a land of super-cheap, almost free, gasoline.
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40A, almost any old power MOSFET in a to220 can handle for less than a couple dollars. Why would you want an IGBT instead?
Example, don't know your voltage requirement, but here's one: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Int ... ItTQ%3d%3d
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There is a built-in tool to write an install disk inside of the OSX install.app from the app store, I think going all the way back to 10.7. 10.9 and 10.10 definitely have it.

Maybe worth a shot?
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"b", in regards to asking about for a PDP-12 wrote: You're not good enough for that machine.
Best of luck with whatever you got.


Says more about the sad state of humanity than anything else. I never did anything more exciting with my SGIs than play quake but somehow the internet gods were not offended :)

People who get self-righteous like that (or are so much "better" :roll: ) don't really have anything worthwhile to do with their toys, either. They have just deemed your pursuits less worthy than theirs :mrgreen:


Yes ! Pics !
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Is there a way to set a resolution for VNC users in OSX? Without a monitor plugged into the server (mac pro), it defaults to just 1280x1024. Also, is there a way to enable GPU acceleration even without a monitor connected? I thought the performance of the vnc viewer I downloaded was bad, but realized that even with the screen sharing built into osx it is simply not using an accelerated desktop unless an actual monitor is plugged in. Performance seems much better with a monitor plugged into the server, even tho in "about this mac" it still shows the graphic card present (FWIW a radeon 5770)

A program like switchresx kinda takes care of the first part, just trying it out now ;) tho it seems ridiculous to have to pay for such basic functionality that should be part of the system... and it doesn't enable the GPU. (tho, if the power savings are significant, maybe I am better off with the GPU disabled as that sucker puts out a lot of heat!)

I have seen the dummy display dongles... no thanks, lol.
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For the new lego game you get to use a sort of lego-fsn in the control room scene from the original movie... which is very cute :D
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hamei wrote: The important things, those they own forever and you just get to make payments. For your entire life.
http://www.the-stand-up.com
The payment model works for many things, apparently. :roll:

This is a millenial's perspective. Also, keep in mind that I work for a company that is renting a building. If/when we buy a facility, my opinion about owning a house may change. But there is a chance we may move across town or across country, so...

I am glad to be paying rent instead of a mortgage considering how many things have gone wrong in my apartment over the past year. Everything that is hooked to the plumbing has leaked into the neighbors downstairs, both toilets, both showers, both sinks, the kitchen sink, the dishwasher... even some things that do not have running water (like the airconditioner, because of a dirty evaporator, apparently) have leaked and/or required servicing. :shock: Now my roof is leaking and the ceiling in our spare closet is mouldering, and I know roofing is expensive. I don't know if I ever want to own a house :D A modern refrigerator has a lifespan of about 4 years, I would rather the landlords have to pay for that crap.

Maybe things were different in the old days when you bought a fridge for $50 and it kept turning forever.

At least cars are a lot easier to work on nowadays. CAN bus and standardized PGNs have gone a long way towards that, and not only do manufacturers share more documentation with dealers than ever before, it has never been easier to become a "dealer". My FIL is working to restore a '92 sedan de ville and it is a nightmare of incompatible and ancient communication protocols. Now you can get pretty good can interfaces from peak, kvaser, etc, for a couple hundred dollars. Most work like any other TCP device on a computer. The cheaper ones work like a serial port.
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vishnu wrote: ... they were saying that the entire US stock market in 1980 was worth something like 1 trillion dollars, and today it's worth something like 60 trillion ...

I wonder what that is worth in real Things of Value ? Even the "That's $ 19.95 in 1970 dollars" (Notice they never do it in that direction ?) doesn't really tell you anything. The dollars are all distributed differently now.

The exact same 1906 house with the rotty post and pier foundation over the creek that floods - the exact same house we were paying $50,000 for - sold a few years ago for $700,000.

At the time, I made $5 an hour. This was a plain old middle-class job, not highly-educated techie stem wonderfulness. So if a rising tide lifts all boats, why aren't twenty year old kids earning $70 an hour to start ? That would be a salary of ... oh, $582,000 a year ?

Something is rotten in the state of danemark :(

Ha! You think real estate is expensive?! You have not tried a surgery, any long term chronic healthcare, anything simple like having a broken arm cast, or childbirth. The healthcare business is the place to be for maximum prooooofit! Especially since there are no "cures" any more, only long term medication. Because the pill pushers need another yacht. Especially the mental cases such as mild depression that requires $80/month addictive medication that will eventually turn into $300/month medication (again... 'addictive'). It is a good business to be in :) And the customers don't care so long as they keep up their insurance premium payments.

Maybe this is just IMO as a transplanted Canadian and is business as usual for the bona-fide yankees... but it doesn't seem like a sustainable system to me.
As an optional download. I fire up X once every few weeks... in a window... only when I *really* have to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_PostScript wrote: Apple's Mac OS X operating system uses a central window server (created entirely by Apple) that caches window graphics as PDF, instead of storing and executing PostScript code. A graphics library called Quartz 2D provides PostScript-style imaging using the PDF rendering model (a subset, plus tweaks, of the PostScript model), but this is used by application frameworks—there is no PostScript present in the Mac OS X window server. Apple chose to use this model for a variety of reasons, including the avoidance of high Adobe-imposed licensing fees for DPS, and more efficient support of legacy Carbon and Classic code; QuickDraw-based applications use bitmapped drawing exclusively


Want to find a convenient place where I can squirrel this box away but still login. As much as I dislike Apple, I dislike the alternatives even more. Still a good handy box to keep around, it just keeps ticking and does several useful things very well.

Hell, maybe just get a mini-DP-to-hdmi cord and hook it up to the teevee.
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hamei wrote: What would happen if I started selling blenders that ran on 93 volts, 35 hz ac ? "Well, once upon a time in Bumfuck, Idaho, the electricity used that voltage and frequency ..." Yeah right. Good luck with that, Bunky.

Well, then, you are expected to include at no extra cost a power supply that can provide that. :mrgreen:
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Lol my current PC (c2q, geforce) still has a windows ME badge on it because the case and power supply are vintage-2001.

Ignore that OS/2 crap; dos 6.2 does everything for everybody :)
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hamei wrote:
guardian452 wrote: As an optional download. I fire up X once every few weeks... in a window... only when I *really* have to.

Okay le, sorry for the misdirection. It appears from the poorly-written crap at Wikipedia that Apple does not use X at all.

You say that like it is a bad thing?? X is universally hated, why would I want to use it? VNC is lightweight and simple. It's little more than just a video stream. My issue is with getting the graphics card to work without a monitor plugged in. Without it, even just scrolling through a web page is a little choppy. I figured there would be a magical hidden switch that reveals itself when the option key was held down. Apple is fond of hiding features like that. Even more so than configuration files. :twisted:

RDP or something like it would be nice, but I don't think it exists on mac, either.
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Vnc works great. I just have to have a monitor plugged into the computer when it boots up, or otherwise the desktop is not accelerated. This also means the beefy radeon in the mac can do the heavy lifting, instead of whatever crappy graphics are in my laptop, which is kind of the opposite of how X works.

Seems the easiest thing is to plug in a monitor, which is why products like this exist. It just feels like there should be an easier way, but at that point I may as well plug in a monitor. The monitor doesn't even have to be connected to power, so long as the edid is there.

The picture is a few years old. That is my grandparent's boat, although I used to spend a lot of time in lasers when I was a kid. :) Grandpa actually had a mirror hanging in the garage for a long time. At some point I asked them about it, but they had given it away by then :(
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ClassicHasClass wrote: No idea, actually. All of my VNCable systems (two Power Macs, one Intel) are hooked up to KVMs anyway, and none of them are later than 10.6.

I booted into 10.6, it does the same thing. As soon as you plug a monitor in, the desktop becomes accelerated. Don't even have to plug the monitor into power. Don't have to reboot, pass go, or collect $200. Just plug in a monitor.

Anyways it seems the easiest thing is to just leave a monitor plugged in :shock:
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Maybe try one of the smallish 8-10" TFT monitors, many of which have USB or serial touchscreens. You would have to bolt on a beefy enough battery as most of them aren't exactly designed for energy efficiency, but in keeping with the DIY spirit I expect you would want it to be fairly chunky anyways. Otherwise people will just think it is an ipad. You could 3d-print a thicker back panel to hide the pi and battery, and design some sort of attachment to a keyboard.

Maybe something like this would be a better starting point?

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http://www.amazon.com/Tontec%C2%AE-Resolution-Raspberry-Rearview-Headrest/dp/B00OOJPAGW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1437945195&sr=1-1&keywords=tft+lcd+hdmi
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Speak for yourself. I hope at some point during my life the experts will figure out a way we can live forever or significantly expand human lifespan. Maybe some sort of rejuvenation procedure, or mind transplant ?? So much of the technology we have now was not even imaginable in fiction 10 or 20 years ago, I can't wait to see what will come next.

Safe your "Omg you need help" twatshitfuck.
No I don't think you will find much of that here, but I do expect this thread to be locked/deleted fairly soonish.
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Right, I even posted a link to such a device above. If I am going to plug something in I may as well just leave a monitor plugged in. (I don't have one of those things, but I do have an otherwise-spare monitor). Passive (e.g. mDP-to-DVI) adapters don't work. Maybe an active (e.g. mDP-to-DLDVI) adapter would, but I don't have one of those.

I assumed surely there was a way to do this without having anything plugged in.
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spiroyster wrote:
uunix wrote: I found this interesting looking CD ROM

I always thought it was some homage to a Friesian cow... Is a Friesian cow classified as Piebald? or is it just horses?


You have not seen enough gateway cow TV commercials in the 90s! They were the cow computer, the boxes were cow-print too, stacked to the ceiling in the computer stores of the 90s. An iconic computer advertisement as the Dell "duuude" or the apple white dancing silhouettes. :D


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Dennis Nedry wrote: Yup.

I've filed so many bug reports on this issue alone it's ridiculous. The few responses I got back from Apple Engineering were all along the line of "we're doing things the way we think they should be done and you're clearly wrong".

OS X won't enable a GPU unless it has a monitor plugged into it. There is no way around this, short of hex editing the kernel extensions, but even then I never got anywhere with that. If the local GPU is disabled, then OS X will default to a software rendering system which is capped to 1280x1024 due to severe performance issues (as you've already found out). Those issues are so bad under 10.9 and 10.10 that VNC is virtually unusable without a GPU installed and active in the system.

You can either plug in a monitor, or invest in one of those fake HDMI or Mini DisplayPort "monitor emulators" that trick OS X into thinking a display is connected. HOWEVER , there is a pretty serious caveat with this- if your dongle emulator reports a display size greater then 2560x1600, OS X 10.9 and above will think that it's a HiDPI display and completely screw up your VNC connection to the point of being utterly worthless. There is no way to disable that functionality, so if you're buying a dongle make sure it's not a 4K model (like the CompuLab fit-Headless 4K).

TLDR; remote controlling OS X is a huge bag of hurt. Apple don't give a shit, and there are no workarounds :( . Welcome to the future of consumer oriented computing...

-DN

I have installed the program called DisplayMenu. You can set whatever display mode you want, HiDPI or not, from the menu bar. With or without a display plugged in. I was using 1920x1080 non-retina unaccelerated. The performance is not *that* bad. http://displaymenu.milchimgemuesefach.de/ HiDPI is not related to screen resolution but DPI. E.G. a 3840x2160 50" screen will not be considered hi-dpi. But a 24" screen at the same resolution will be.
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Indeed the site works great on both internet explorer on my lumia and safari on my iPhone. The new mobile theme is nice. I dislike websites that shove pointless 'apps' down my throat which are nothing more than a browser view to existing said site anyway..
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uunix wrote: I'm using the old standard theme.


The new theme is mobile-friendly. The old one isn't.
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neymar, rijkaard, iniesta, guardiola, puyol, messi, abidal, xavi, etc...
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The whole Octane album is still on the ftp... pub/irix/Octane_Soundtrack
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uunix wrote: She now has a wedding to plan, which we talk about, but she already has it sorted, so I throw in comments and suggestions (that I know are not going to fit) and I'm greeted with a "that's a good idea, maybe.. but [THAT'S NEVER HAPPENING]" responses.

fsck it all, go to the county courthouse and get yourself a marriage license, find a bona-fide ordained minister on craigslist who for $60 will make it official, and if you insist on spending silly money, blow the rest on a honeymoon 8-)
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ClassicHasClass wrote: Given all the crap Lenovo's pulled of late, I'd love one ... from some other company under license.

Yeah, there's that...on the other hand, I'd kill for a 4:3 laptop in this era of inevitable widescreen crap.


Why? It's a windows machine, it plays my xbox when I'm in bed and watch movies on. What else are you doing in windows that you would need a bigger screen for? Would be nice to get e.g. 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 at least, in a 12" screen. But the 16x9 works well for movies and games.

I traded my 2010 macbook air for a thinkpad x220 and while the nostalgia trip is nice, I know I'm going to be plunking down for a new macbook (either an air 11" like my old one, or the retina macbook) within the next month or two. A far worse offender than the aspect ratio is the horrible color and contrast. And DPI. And the craptastic battery life. And non-magnetic charging coupler. Windows 7 sucks, 10 fixes the problems of 7 but introduces new ones, and while 8 is nice, I don't have a license for it (my wife's vaio has 8 and she loves it). It seems to hit the sweet spot of modern features but all of the bugs worked out. 10 will hopefully get more mature in time.

I really like xbox music microsoft groove, but ironically find it works better on my work laptop (macbook pro) than windows thinkpad at home! (this may be subjective). It has convinced me to actually *pay* for music for the first time in... forever.

I am still keeping my x220 if only to play my xbox in bed or when wifey is watching TV but I was a bit foolish to think it could replace a macbook. Still trying to get warmed up to it.
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guardian452 wrote: Why? It's a windows machine, it plays my xbox when I'm in bed and watch movies on. What else are you doing in windows that you would need a bigger screen for?

It's not about the screen resolution , it's about the aspect ratio . 16:9 makes sense for a movie theater because the whole point is to fill the entire field of view, but on a computer it sucks. Maximizing a document on a widescreen laptop means that reading it requires way too much left-to-right-to-left travel for my eyes (since most paragraphs are now two or three lines of ~120-200 characters,) or requires me to crank up the font size to the point where the information density is roughly on par with an Atari 2600 game (since there's so little vertical room.) And not maximizing it isn't a good option, either, since the only OS that does tiling all that well is *nix (and even that could be a lot better.) 4:3 just works better than other aspect ratios (5:4 is pretty alright too, but I doubt anybody's ever done that on a laptop.)

But naturally, since everybody is buying 16:9 TVs to win the dick-measuring contest against their neighbors, we have to make computers fit the same pattern, no matter what. And hey, computers are just glorified TVs for a whole bunch of people now, so who cares about anybody actually trying to do work on them!?


I would rather have one big screen than a bunch of little ones, and I like having as much horizontal space as possible. Even the craptastic 1366x768 12" TN panel on my x220 has the same vertical space as the old x40, but enough horizontal space to hold two pages next to each other. And it is far more ideal for movies and games. Your screen width cannot typically be made smaller than the width of the keyboard.

I have a 27" thunderbolt display (16x9) and the vertical space is just enough; otherwise I couldn't see over it! But horizontally, there can always be more. That 34" curved dell is the sexiest screen I have ever seen. 21x9. but at $1200 it is more than twice the thunderbolt display. And there is no ALS, the speakers are guaranteed to suck, no camera, no charging cord, etc. Although I will admit the current TBD is long in the tooth, there is not anything I would want to change on it. I guess bend it and make it wider :D
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Personally, I despise 16:9. It's a nasty and unpleasant aspect ratio designed for watching TV on, not for doing proper work. If Lenovo finally decide to buck the current trend and design a new laptop for proper work, rather than just watching Netflix on then I think that would be fantastic. Currently, if you want a new laptop with a screen designed for proper work, the only company making them still is Apple (the Macbook Pro is 16:10, as is the new Macbook).
Right, but we are talking thinkpad here, which means windows, which means games (at least to me). Most games are made for 16x9. I love the streaming feature in the new xbox app and that alone makes up for all of the thinkpad's other shortcomings.

Maybe this is very jobsian of me but why don't they make a perfect square laptop, 12" to a side, with a 1:1 aspect ratio (or close as possible allowing for the hinge), each half 5mm thick, and call it the NeXTpad. And of course, make it black :D

I know they make them bigger/smaller but I've always bought laptops that are about the footprint of a sheet of paper or magazine. x31,x40,x220, 11" mac air, 13" rMBP, etc. My wife has a 14" pink vaio and it is the biggest laptop I've ever owned, there is even room for a CD drive in there! (not that we have any CDs to put in it, of course).
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I live close to one of their major warehouses, and the work there for a wage slave is pretty good considering, or so I've heard. I made less money as a college student digging holes by hand (digging up gas valves for $7/hr) and would have loved to have worked in a warehouse with a roof over my head. I also worked in a warehouse where we sold soccer and soccer accessories and I got pretty good at pressing numbers onto tshirts. And a theme park, but let's not go there...

Anyways, it sounds like they are treating their grunts better than the office stiffs. :!: I still consider myself a grunt of sorts although I am salaried and get to do what I love it does involve a lot of driving on test tracks and climbing over/under cars and all of the grittyness that comes with. I am definitely not going to be wearing a tie and jacket to work anytime soon!

My wife the retail queen has worked at macys, target, sears, dressbarn, many others as well, and it is not a good place to be. There are worse jobs but retail is pretty cutthroat. Also extreeemely seasonal. If you're good you can make a career out of it but when is the last time you had a 'good' salesperson at a bigbox store? Or even a boutique for that matter?
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hamei wrote:
guardian452 wrote: ... we are talking thinkpad here, which means windows, which means games ...

Ouch ! InDesign, Catia, Illustrator, Photoshop, Framemaker, NASTRAN, lookout ! The end is nigh :P
Big Ouch ;)

hamei wrote:
Most games are made for 16x9.

You run full-screen ? You'd fit right in here. Why do they make such a big deal about "it's multi-tasking !" if people are going to run everything fullscreen ? May as well use DOS. i also think 16:9 sucks, especially with that dumb taskbar wasting an inch off the bottom.
I've been sticking the taskbar on the right side for years. My thinkpad however has such a shortage of pixels I have it set to auto-hide completely.
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Smallish thought, but has anybody else noticed that the sign on the lid of newer thinkpads is upside-down? I always liked how it faced towards the user, even on my x220; whereas on a mac it is upside-down to the user when closed. When it's open what do I care what direction it's facing?
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Trippynet wrote: However, as armanox rightly said, ThinkPads are supposed to be professional machines for work, not gaming machines. If you want a gaming laptop, you'd be better off with an XPS, or a cheaper "consumer grade" laptop than a ThinkPad. And if you just want to watch TV and play the odd game, then of course a cheaper 16:9 laptop will be fine. But if you're trying to do proper work (coding and whatnot), the lack of vertical space on a 16:9 laptop is really annoying.

Bullshit, my thinkpad plays games and movies great. I may have a love/hate relationship with it but it is waaay better than some crappy dell ;)

Anyways I've decided to order a macbook (in gold of course) for personal use. If you want a decent classic thinkpad replacement you can get a macbook in dark grey which is similar to black if you squint. It's not as black as the old black macbooks, tho.
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We are getting dangerously close to politics here but I'm only in it for the entertainment as a " non-citizen " - I saw a trump sticker on a juggalambo. It was brownish and the right taillight was full of water. I can't really imagine a trump sticker on anything else. Anyways, would be kinda fun if trump wins ? So many trollings and lulzings to be had!

Re HCF: I think the gold standard for this humor is The IT Crowd.
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Trippynet wrote:
guardian452 wrote: Bullshit, my thinkpad plays games and movies great.


I never said they couldn't do it, I said it's not what they're primarily designed for.

I watch movies and play games on my ThinkPad as well from time to time, and it does a surprisingly good job too. But when I stop doing that and fire up some real work such as programming on it, the extra screen height of the 16:10 screen makes a real difference over the crappy 16:9 panel in my work laptop.

Apple laptops aren't too bad, but I have gone off them somewhat lately after they started soldering everything in and sealing them together with large quantities of glue. I like to be able to meddle and tweak with my computing kit :)



The disconnect here is my thinkpad has a crappy (1366x768) 16:9 screen but my work-supplied MacBook has a 16:10 very nice (2560x1600) screen.

The only meddling and tweaking I've done in probably the past 5 years is add a subwoofer out to my thunderbolt display. Which is quite easy to work on, held together by magnets. My air 2010 which this thinkpad was supposed to replace was also "sealed and irrepairable" but lo! somehow I could add a larger disk and replace the battery just fine! Apple sells them for $119, 60 less than Lenovo charges for the x220 battery :P
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I regret selling my old air even if it was long in the tooth. Just wanted something different and I sold it for exactly what the thinkpad cost me. They are anything but disposable. My work macbook is a year old and gets beat up in a garage environment every day but it still looks brand new once I clean it. I wanted an air with a nice screen and I got it with the new macbook.
Google: Don't Be Evil. Apple: Don't Be Greedy. Microsoft: Don't Be Stupid.
Isn't the power lead on a g5 a standard c19 like an onyx? I know you can get the fancy white apple one with a shroud but... It'll cost as much as the machine!
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Looks like google has done a new-sgi with their logo. Too bad they didn't spend some money on a typeface like sgi did, what is that MS arial?

As tasteful as a...
Google: Don't Be Evil.
Apple: Don't Be Greedy.
Microsoft: Don't Be Stupid.