The collected works of smj - Page 18

And MultiNet too, neat. Too bad I'm on the wrong coast - that's a lot more reasonable than a Grey Wall...

Tch. Yer makin' me want ta fire up the VAXen, and I've got too much end o' year stuff to stroll down that particular garden path (again)...

Hmmm. Well, back or not, I'm glad sky and dexter are around again - and down the road who knows... <relurk>

Heh - it seemed like it took a lot of diehard 36-bitters forever to excuse those of us who missed the platform for merely soldiering on with what was available to us...

Mmmm, a quad-density front loader. Glad it's not closer, so I'm safe from temptation.

Wait, there's a machine that miod *doesn't* have an example of?!?

Glad to see they included the remote control, MrBill.

Congrats though - nice score. It'd be easier to get the keyboard converter though link (I'm not affiliated).

EDIT: Also, what's that bit of DECish looking gear in the right foreground of your photo?

Tek made excellent X terminals - I got to wrangle some back in the early 90s - but any (pre-thin client) X terminal is going to be stuck with an archaic version of X.

Thin clients are your best bet for something that can support X w/o running a full Linux distro. Have a look here for candidates - I'm partial to the HP T57xx models and the Wyse R90L (Dual DVI! A tiny GPU!), but there are a lot of candidates of varying capability and cost.

Most of them will be running WinXP Embedded or a stripped down Linux, but you'll still probably be lagging behind current protocol versions. Something to be said for finding or making a stripped down Linux or *BSD image to run on them...

Fond memories of Solbourne, so happy to see one running again. Netscape Navigator? No port of something later...?

ClassicHasClass wrote: I'll be getting gcc on it, so maybe ...
The nice thing is that it'll be SunOS 4.1 compatible in general, if it works, since OS/MP is binary compatible.

I was trolling, Mr. TenFourFox. But yes, AFAIR binary compatible, just not kernel compatible, so many things could be built on one and run on the other. IIRC was true for our CORBA implementation at $WORK circa '92-93 - a mix of Solbourne server and desktops with enough (more expensive) Sun workstations to be certain and to test/certify builds.

I am reading all the pointless posts in this pointless thread - a pointless^2 thing to do...

Just to be clear: Sky are you asking about the "OS X Server" add-on available for $19.99 through the App Store? Currently v5.1, which requires OS X 10.11.4?

They stopped offering the non-add-on version quite a few years ago now, right?

Intuition wrote: Its like I have to have one just cause _____

I have no idea what you're talking about. (Looks at his own signature) D'oh!

Even before acquiring PDI, DreamWorks in Glendale was rendering using Linux. They have older Origin 200 servers running IRIX but are switching to much cheaper Pentium computers.

So I think the O200s in the photo were in Glendale, and the three racks of O2000s mentioned but not shown were in Palo Alto.

Maximum Origin 200, nice! You may have the largest number of intact O200 front doors anywhere.

Any idea of the total current draw when all four units are up and running?

Oh, and also -- Welcome to nekochan!

Good advice, thanks surreal!

robespierre wrote: "You aren't going to get a custom o2 or fuel styrofoam mold": Just buy Instapak bags.

I remember thinking those spray-foam packing systems were the perfect solution when I first encountered them years ago, but you needed a whole shipping operation to justify one. And I guess I've been asleep ever since, because I totally missed Instapak becoming a thing.

There are several sizes available on Amazon, if nowhere else. They aren't exactly cheap, but then neither is a clean, intact O2... Looks like you have to move fast, though - foam sets in 10-15 seconds!

For example: Instapak 22x27" at Amazon (US$9.66, which will vary from day to day hour to hour because Amazon)

I'm returning to Japan at the end of next month, and was wondering about how one might find an Omron LUNA 88k2 (have a mk1). (Maybe an '040 model, if one came up.) I've been to Akihabara, and while these items might be in a shop somewhere, I can't imagine visiting *every* shop there...

So for those more familiar with life in Japan, any suggestions on how I might go about locating one of these? I only know a little phrasebook Japanese at this point, FWIW.

Appreciate any and all suggestions, pointers, and tips.
--S.

Nuts. Oh well - thanks for the feedback.

I enjoyed a brief encounter with the 68k-based NEWS workstations. One of those might be fun too... Any hints toward finding a 68k or MIPS version? I'm thinking about this because I believe I have a second ~50kg bag allowance, but only expect to take one suitcase with me.

kokoboi wrote: You can check http://auctions.yahoo.co.jp ...

Ah, thanks! That leads me to http://buyee.jp/ via a banner on the Yahoo! Japan page, which presents the same auctions within an English site. Helps a bit, even if the listing contents aren't translated. Their model is to bid on your behalf and then arrange shipping, so this might have some general appeal depending on the rates.

kramlq wrote: Just be thankful the vintage hardware gods have blessed you with a mk1 Omron. Some of us have none

I humbly acknowledge the truth of what you say. I was indeed very fortunate back in 2002...

But this seems like the best opportunity I've had to date to find other Japanese workstations, so I've got to make at least a small effort...

Ha - Go, Dave, Go!! "It belongs in a museum!"

Hey, when did that go live again?? Well whatever, I'm glad for the chance to donate at last...

vishnu wrote: Last time Pete left it up until it hit the target. You would prefer another target, a military target? Then name the system!

Uhm, I can't donate $20 on Friday. I have to go see how they mocked up Grand Moff Tarkin in that new movie...

vishnu wrote:

smj wrote: Uhm, I can't donate $20 on Friday. I have to go see how they mocked up Grand Moff Tarkin in that new movie...

Did they actually do that? I just looked at the full cast credits on imdb and he wasn't listed. But then if his character was all cgi I guess they wouldn't have to list him, but wouldn't they have to get permission from his estate to use his likeness? Either way I don't think they should have done it; caaaaaaah- reep -y!

From what I have read, that's exactly what they did. I have no strong feelings about them doing it, I'd just like to see the results...

Hey, somebody go donate! We're getting off-topic here...

Thanks for the tips. I'll try to check these places out the next time I head over there.

SiliconClassics wrote: It's currently over $2,000 on eBay with three days left in the bidding. That would be an awful lot to spend on a computer just to take a sledgehammer to it.

But then again, sometimes they do . That's a note on the classiccmp list where Gene B mentioned Boeing buying up two independent simulators for $2,700 so they can scrap them, taking them off the market and consequently destroying some rare old minicomputers.

Yes they're bigger and deal with much more expensive equipment, but it's hardly unreasonable to think the folks making money off Turok on Steam wouldn't want to secure this related IP before it somehow threatens their existing investment.

Is it just the VS100 box, or do you also have the UNIBUS cards and fiber optic cables? I might make the trip if the latter are present - I'm curious how many hours it would take an 11/730 to put up a login box...

Cameron, just how many of these were we talking about?

ClassicHasClass wrote: Two, in the end (I thought three or four, but I forgot the machine on the same type of pedestal next to it was actually a PRO 380). Jim S from cctalk is coming to collect them on Saturday for his group.

Cool, good job Jim.

And when you're ready for the Pro 380 to find a new home, you know how to reach me.

Lucky dog! Looks like you've got a bit more than a plain 11/23 there. In fact, is that a pair of TU58 tape drives mounted in the top of the chassis, with a controller above the card cage? And what else is on that grey board with the i8253 timer?

I'll bet this system's got an interesting story to tell...

Nobody gives DEC Pro 380s to Zathrus...

Heh - I have a couple custom-built NS32k-based systems from the University of New Brunswick, Interesting design decisions all around. Lots of heavy gauge sheet steel, but very well-formed and nicely finished.

Not sure about the release dates and availability, so I'll just toss stuff out. Re:LIFE and Erased . Alderamin on the Sky wasn't bad, and at least there was no "My spirit pressure will defeat your soul energy THWACK THWACK THWACK" fighting drivel.

Beautiful Bones: Sakurako's Investigation and The Perfect Insider for some crime drama. There's a live action version of the latter on Crunchy Roll, FWIW.

I started watching Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinju but got interrupted by ... something, maybe travel. Will get back to that, a slice of the culture I haven't encountered except in books.

If you don't turn your nose up at shoujo, Your Lie In April is pretty cool. Very nice art, not too many slow spots where you want to smack the protagonist vigorously... Plastic Memories .

I recently picked up a copy of Serial Experiments Lain and watched the whole thing through - nice refresher.

I'm building gcc 2.4.5 on a simulated Sun-3 right now. Hopefully old enough to build properly on SunOS 4.1.1, but new enough for the versions of other things I'll need to build.

Bringing it closer to the OP, I wonder how my HP 9000/375 will compare to tme running on a modern x86 CPU, speed-wise...

NCDs were practically the reference standard in the circles I moved in. The color units from Tektronix were pretty high end when I first touched them in 1991 (or, we only got high-end models - too long ago, flip a coin). Those same basic NCDs (NCD-19b, -16c, etc - 68k-based models, before any MIPS or 88k models) were still in use around 1994 for sales reps and admins, but 486 PCs running UNIX+X11 or Windows 3.1 already seemed like the writing on the wall based on price/performance unless you needed RISC horsepower, 3D, etc.

This was all pre-Java, pre-thin client (meaning before Larry Ellison was shouting about "network computers" in ~1996 as if he'd invented something new). For me, a monochrome 68k-based NCD is the reference point for that class of product.

Couple of LSI 9211-8i's to handle the twin drive cages of an HP DL380 G6 destined to run VMs at the colo...

VPinecone: Sorry if Lain does'tn click for you.

If people have missed FLCL or Darker Than Black , go check those out.

I try to keep Mushi-shi around. All the episodes I've seen have been standalone stories, so it's good for combating between-series depression.

Site is still down... "Error establishing a database connection"

Hmm, I've got IPv6 up at home over the past couple months (sonic.net and 6rd). Works fine for the frequently used machines, I'll have to see how the SGIs handle it Some Day Soon®...