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kshuff wrote: No good without the XIO board and cabling though :(

Exactly. Also, I don't really see what adding a VME backplane to my O2K would do as there were so few VME boards that even did anything under irix.
I'll let that pass as that dev board killed me. x_X

EDIT: I wonder how expensive and rare Irix-compatible GPIB boards are? At least I can think of a use for that: linking up my friends signal generator and scope! :D
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I was walking down the hall in the Tech building at the university and spotted this sitting in the hallway.
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Curious, I ask the guy in charge of recycling if it was being moved or something and he responded with "nah, it's being recycled. You want it?"
After some swearing, bolt fumbling and a lot of heavy lifting I got it all in the car sans the rack and the power distribution strip inside the rack (apparently one of the teachers wanted to use it (rack and power bar) and the rails for an A/V rack which was sad as the thing looked really nice and had HEWLETT PACKARD on the top though I was able to keep the nice sliding rails for the system.)
After dragging it home I looked it all over again:
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Okay, so we got the main box which has a single processor, two raid cards, and some ram in it as well as at least one hard drive so there is a chance there is a salvageable OS on that.
There was also some funky board that connected to the UPS and I guess a phone line, probably to call a pager or something.
Next there is the two disk arrays which are pretty much full of small High voltage differential drives so I don't know what to do there....
Finally there is the UPS and it's a monster. The Inverter and the two batteries must weigh 400 pounds alone.
Geez, now that I got this and a few cables, what exactly can be done with it? I know I have to find a new rack for it (ugh....) but what use is HP-UX, if that is still on the drive?
I think my one real concern id that I need a 20A 220v line. This certainly is some serious hardware.

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porter wrote:
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Geez, now that I got this and a few cables, what exactly can be done with it? I know I have to find a new rack for it (ugh....) but what use is HP-UX, if that is still on the drive?


HP/UX is an excellent OS. Did you talk the opportunity of the offer....?

http://forums.nekochan.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=10771&start=0

Bah, I heard about that but that was just when I was getting into obscure hardware so no I didn't take up on that offer. :<

Edit: oh, and judging from the yelling I am receiving from my dad, it needs to be out of the living room immediately. this is going to eb a fun noght. Now he'' be asking me 20 questions about why I need it (actually, I don't know why I need it but it's too late now).

EDIT: Crap, I can hear him slamming doors and yelling. I think this was a REALLY bad idea.

EDIT: Bad idea it was. I have to get it out of my fathers sight before dawn or else it is off to the scrappers tomorrow weather I like it or not.

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After I figured out how to pull the enormous battery packs out of their boxes I dragged everything downstairs and I'm safe...for now.
Still, one thing that confuses me is why the UPC charger/inverter inputs and outputs 230v even though all the hardware can run at 110v no problem. I take it this is partly because the higher the voltage, the lower the amperage draw, right?

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sybrfreq wrote:
I would have ripped the machine out of that obnoxious rack front panel and left the rest... I mean, there's useless, and then there's Useless.

Are you implying a rackmount system is useless? I remove the front off the system and it's a naked front.

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Double whammy. >_>

If this system is the one I used to see in one of the computer labs in the tech building, I used to own the matching HP serial terminal for it. It came from the same university and it was a nice terminal...until it fell off a shelf and cracked the neck on the CRT.
I also managed to power up the system this morning and found in the cd tray a Debian netboot disc so I think it is safe to say now that no trace of HP-UX still exists in the system.

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sybrfreq wrote:
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sybrfreq wrote:
I would have ripped the machine out of that obnoxious rack front panel and left the rest... I mean, there's useless, and then there's Useless.

Are you implying a rackmount system is useless? I remove the front off the system and it's a naked front.


well, a hp-ux machine might be fun to have, but that front panel looks like it might triple the storage space requirements. With a bit of creativity it could look like a regular desktop tower. Plus, did you really need the 400 pounds of ups batteries?


All I'm saying is a bit of moderation would have kept your parents happy. ;)

I'm quite sure they won't care in six months when I move out and worry about space constraints on my own. ;)

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skywriter wrote:
so, why exactly did you even get this thing? it's not at all note worthy AFAIK. if you're going to give your dad a good reason to get pissed off don't waste it on junk.

This was one of those "I didn't think it out first" things. :oops:
I would of liked to just take the system but I was told I take it all or take nothing so I had to spend an hour dismantling the system and putting ti in the car.

edit: anyways, the old man ahs settled down now now that it is out of the living room. I think he just didn't want me cluttering it up again.

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Dang. You have my terminal Leaknoil. >_>
So graphics cards do actually exist? I was looking at the EISA but for a while and wondering how rare EISA video cards would be unless the graphics options were actually ISA.

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I see now. Hmm, I wonder what it would take to find a suitable card? I guess that's a task for another day. ;)

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leaknoil wrote:
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those cards are pretty easy to find on ebay (or were)


I saw a couple when I was trying to figure out what it was. They wanted $50 or so. That is about ten times more then I'd probably pay for one. You also have to find a EVC to svga adapter and the HP ones seem to be fetching $40 as well.

Damn, exactly what I was afraid of. Unless I either get lucky or pay about $100 I'm going to have on my hands a nice rack full of hardware and the only way I can communicate with it is over terminals. Actually, that does not sound half bad.

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Awesome! Thanks SAQ. I have been looking for a decent HP terminal emulator.
Okay, so I guess unless Ia actually do find a framebuffer I'll just live with terminals for now which I guess is the better idea anyways as I don't see myself putting this thing in any places where I could easily setup a desk next to it. (closets can be pretty small ;) )

EDIT: Awesome! I have located yet another HP terminal! :D

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With much sacrifice (bye bye three ATX cases filled with varying dual Ppro, dual PIII and dual PII hardware... and an 8088 clone) I managed to negotiate getting two DEC RK05J's into the house.
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First off, yes, the head assembly is missing form both units but I managed to locate two more from parts units and they have not yet been installed and both power up fine with no smoke or explosions.
Anyways, I see there are a few flip chips installed in the unit but I don't know if that is the actual drive controller (and all I'm missing is one card which breaks out into a ribbon cable and plugs into the PDP backplane of your choice) or just the fridge logic for the drive itself.
Anyone have any knowledge on this? Google tells me that this is apparently one of the most popular drives for the 8/e and 11 systems among others and they go in-depth on the drive but barely make note let alone take pictures of the interface.
Also, what can I use to substitute the status panel bulbs? It looks like the last user gradually moved them around as they burned out and now I only have bulbs for the FAULT, READ, and WRITE indicators.

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zmttoxics wrote:
PDP hardware, wow. You are living the dream man. ;)

I'm living no dream yet. I'll be living it when I find a PDP-8 to run this. I have this addiction to buy the tires before I buy the car. ;)
Honestly, this is the first time I have ever seen something PDP related in the flesh. Even after that fiasco last week, I managed to find a place for them and my parents are not yellin'.

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I'm going to give up restoring them and set them aside as parts units. Even if I ever do get replacement head units I need the alignment pack.

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I'm running an A/V O2 with a 300mhz R5k and 256mb ram (and currently an unpatched install of 6.5.15) which is just barely enough for video capture supposedly and I have my Sony camcorder plugged in and want to capture 640x480 videos. I have the system setup with a second 18gb disk for scratch space and for saving the videos to (as to free up the system disk) however I'm still having trouble getting something decent.
Normally either the video is twitching (during recording and after when it has been saved but it's not visible in the viewfinder on the camera so the O2 is doing it somehow) or the final result is horribly interlaced.
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I'm assuming either my encoding settings need to eb fine tuned or my video settings need to be adjusted or simply put I'm asking too much from the system. I honestly don't know what is up.
Another issue I'm having is that Media Recorder keeps forgetting its settings. I set the scratch space to be /dsk2/Video/.Video_Scratch and the videos to be saved to /dsk2/Video but if I close the program and reopen it, all my settings reset and I ahve to set teh path to save and the location of the scratch space again.

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Ah, so I'll need an external application to recombine the frames. Sounds ugly but I guess it's all Ic an do as I don't see anyone making a way to do so on Irix any time soon...
Hmm, I am using Acoustic Research audio cables but a very thin guage video cable. I'll try and find a much better video cable and try again. It could be that the timing is being messed a little in the cable. I could alsr try messing with the settings in the video panel I could also route it through my Sony editing deck first as well but that's plugged into my Indigo2 and I kinda wanted a "camera-to-digitizer" solution with nothing like a VCR in between.

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you could also video capture motionless scenes and get much better results.

hat certainly would eliminate interlacing but wouldn't that mean a reduced framerate as the system can only capture so much at a time?

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skywriter wrote:
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Ah, so I'll need an external application to recombine the frames. Sounds ugly but I guess it's all Ic an do as I don't see anyone making a way to do so on Irix any time soon...


mediaconvert IS on irix. it is supplied by dmedia.

pentium wrote:
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you could also video capture motionless scenes and get much better results.

hat certainly would eliminate interlacing but wouldn't that mean a reduced framerate as the system can only capture so much at a time?


that my young friend was sarcasm.


Sorry, it was early and I just got off work. :P
I'll try feeding a video through mediaconvert and see what happens.

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Holy crap.
I did a high quality capture at 640x480 and when I try to feed it through mediaconvert I don't even reach 20% before the converted file completely eats up all my free space. This is horrible. It's even worse than Avid VideoShop.

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I'm using the mediarecorder app that comes with irix to record video coming in from the O2 Video module and because it's an O2 I got no hardware compression.
I might look into better software for Video I/O but not right now as I got too much on the go.
I do have an Indigo2 with both the Galileo Video and Cosmo compression boards however I would not prefer to drag it out and put it in place of my O2.
I don't know which of the various compression formats are Motion JPEG. Right now I have been using "QuickTime JPEG A" as it sounds the closest to "Motion JPEG"
Bah. I wish there was like a DIVX plugin or something. :P

Anyways, I ran another test video before I read what you said Jan-Jaap and yeah, I'm getting roughly 10mb/s when making an SD recording using my current settings. For dumping back to tape that's okay but for Youtube that's not suitable at all. At least I can output video files now that Youtube will even understand. Avid Videoshop was notorious for making .mov files that were not compatible on anything but a mac.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1syHWlOhx8

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New member to the family.
R5K old-style skin O2: DemiVeemon

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Holy crap. Got enough Fuels? :shock:

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Oh wow. I think I remember you.
You just kinda vanished off the face of the earth a month or so after I came onto the Nekochan scene and proceeded to drive everyone crazy.
Welcome back. It's great to see some of the true "old salt" folks.
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ajerimez wrote:
pentium wrote:
I'm using the mediarecorder app that comes with irix to record video coming in from the O2 Video module and because it's an O2 I got no hardware compression.


You most certainly do have hardware compression on the O2.

To make things easier, try using one of the presets in Media Recorder. There should be something like "SGI video production" that will configure video capture to use the O2's built-in M-JPEG video compression, which occurs in realtime so there's minimal post-processing of captured video.

That's what I'm using however I'm using cross-platform mode.

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I went over my timestamp settings and my time zone settings and while I reside in the Pacific time zone (GMT -8) just like the Nekochan server, for some reason, all the thread and post time stamps are exactly one hour ahead. Is anyone else getting this or did something reset on my profile? I swear it was fine a few months ago. (It's really not a hassle, but it sure exercises your brain. :) )

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Ah, I found it.
Pity you have to manually set weather you are or are not in daylight saving mode.
Oh well, it's a quirk I can live with.

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:roll:

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nekonoko wrote:
skywriter wrote:
pix!


Do they have booth babes at a fiber optics show? :)

It's worth the asking. ;)

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I managed to get teh breakout cables so I can actually use the card for video I/O but alas, the extensions/drivers/software still eludes me. :(

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A grapics card would be nice but I don't see many good ones that are affordable....
I'm still struggling to find a rack to put this back into. It's just so large. I have never worked with anything so enormous. Also, it seems it was not a good idea for me to leave the PDU in the last rack. Without it I can't really use the UPS system (which with a bit of work I got plugged into my dryer outlet and watched power up and charge the batteries enough to suffice it is worth keeping).

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Looks awesome. count me in for one if the price is right.

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I forget the name of the site but there is a place where you can make custom mousepads for $2.99 and so far they ahve not complained about me making some NeXT mousepads.

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sybrfreq wrote:
pentium wrote:
I forget the name of the site but there is a place where you can make custom mousepads for $2.99 and so far they ahve not complained about me making some NeXT mousepads.

is this it?
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=16721380&p=7303948&hilit=next+mousepad#p7303948


Yes, that was the place.

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You sure those disc images work?
I'm writing them to a disc using Nero and my mac is not detecting them and Ubuntu is complaining about a bad FS type and not mounting them.

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SAQ wrote:
The "refrigerator" comment is understandable in context, but I can't understand the guy who noted that the new system was "portable". Easier to move, perhaps, but I don't see how anyone could consider an Onyx portable.


If it rolls, I consider that portable. ;)

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we moved across Canada to Victoria, BC...

Welcome to The Island of Awesome.
Last I remember there was a guy at UVic who knew a fair bit about large-scale IBM systems. Not sure if that will help you much (I last heard from him back in 2007) but if he's still there he might be of interest to you.

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They made a version of photoshop for almost every unix system in the 3.x era. If you look in the installer script you will even see that there was almost a version for NeXTSTEP but it was never completed/released.

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161 and 163 errors usually indicate CMOS checksum error and the clock is not set. The only way to fix this is to get the reference diskette and set the time and date.
Also, that specific model of PS/2 (the 25 series) is known as the "EduQuest" because schools used to buy them by the dozen.

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Indeed. It's a very nice system.
If you want to put a better video card in the system, I don't think you will use the apple diaplay anymore. From knowledge that make used the proprietary ADC connector.

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