The collected works of pentium - Page 16

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Has there ever been a push to update the adapter using cheaper and more modern components?
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I couldn't care about USB support. PS/2 ain't gonna go out of style any time soon.

I just don't wanna pay about $50 in parts each time I need to make a new adapter. :roll:
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Having run through the leaked Irix source code with grep I've found a few funny comments hidden away. Suprisingly they refrained from using the f-bomb.
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Developing film in my bathroom.



I've forgotten how relaxing this was.
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Admiring more of my photographs.

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Last time I saw a PCI shoebox for the Octane they were still going for around $100 but that was six years ago.
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seclorum wrote: ivelegacy: the VGA modification is documented in the wiki here: http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/Indy_VGA_Hack

I haven't done it yet, but I will soon. Also, I'd kind of like to upgrade the graphics to 24-bit .. if anyone has an upgrade for sale, let me know.


How did I never see that page? That shown pinout is incorrect (I must of been smoking something wild at the time to screw that up). The Indy is also one of the few SGI's that outputs a horizontal and vertical sync signal so you are not strictly limited to SoG monitors.

Using the 13W3 pinout listed on page 201 of the Indy Owners Guide....

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13W3                                         VGA
1 (Monitor Type 3) ------------------------- 15 (ID Bit 3)
2 (Monitor Type 0) ------------------------- 11 (ID Bit 0)
3 (Composite Sync) ------------------------- N/C
4 (Horiz. Sync) ---------------------------- 13 (Horiz. Sync)
5 (Vert. Sync) ----------------------------- 14 (Vert. Sync)
6 (Monitor Type 1) ------------------------- 12 (ID Bit 1)
7 (Monitor Type 2 -------------------------- 4 (ID Bit 2)
8 (Ground) --------------------------------- 6 (Red Shield)
9 (Ground)---------------------------------- 7 (Green Shield)
10 (Ground) -------------------------------- 8 (Blue Shield)
A1 (Red) ----------------------------------- 1 (Red)
A2 (Green) --------------------------------- 2 (Green)
A3 (Blue) ---------------------------------- 3 (Blue)
9 (Ground)* -------------------------------- 5 (Ground)
N/C ---------------------------------------- 9 (KEY/DDC +5v)

*All grounds are common, so it doesn't matter if you use pin 8, 9 or 10.


...hence why I soldered so many extra lines to the board. ;)
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Five years later I want to point out that I really badly screwed up the 13W3 pinout and never saw sgifanatic's suggestion to fix that. :oops:
The one several posts above applies to other machines like the Onyx or Octane which use almost none of the extra pins on the 13W3 connector. Indy Newport Graphics however are a lot more monitor friendly and also supply a horizontal and vertical sync. The pinout is listed on page 201 of the Indy Owners guide but here's the proper wiring chart.

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13W3                                         VGA
1 (Monitor Type 3) ------------------------- 15 (ID Bit 3)
2 (Monitor Type 0) ------------------------- 11 (ID Bit 0)
3 (Composite Sync) ------------------------- N/C
4 (Horiz. Sync) ---------------------------- 13 (Horiz. Sync)
5 (Vert. Sync) ----------------------------- 14 (Vert. Sync)
6 (Monitor Type 1) ------------------------- 12 (ID Bit 1)
7 (Monitor Type 2 -------------------------- 4 (ID Bit 2)
8 (Ground) --------------------------------- 6 (Red Shield)
9 (Ground)---------------------------------- 7 (Green Shield)
10 (Ground) -------------------------------- 8 (Blue Shield)
A1 (Red) ----------------------------------- 1 (Red)
A2 (Green) --------------------------------- 2 (Green)
A3 (Blue) ---------------------------------- 3 (Blue)
9 (Ground)* -------------------------------- 5 (Ground)
N/C ---------------------------------------- 9 (KEY/DDC +5v)

*All grounds are common, so it doesn't matter if you use pin 8, 9 or 10.
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$200 after shipping. Daaaayum.
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jmc wrote:
$200 after shipping. Daaaayum.


Wow... that's "almost" crazy. Were you the lucky one? :D

I already got a set. I'm pretty good right now. ;)
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Mamiya. I got a pretty good deal on an RB67 Pro S out of South Korea last spring. $350 for the body, lens, viewfinder and film back, plus $50 shipping. Great camera but good christ it's heavy.
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I won't go into the details but when I picked up my 9406-720 it did not come with the front skin.

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...it also didn't come with any drives....but I'll get to that eventually. Anyways, who might have one squirreled away?
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I've yet to touch HIE. Even 3200 Delta feels scary to develop.
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Currently evaluating my options as I dismantle, clean and rebuild a 1964 Philips EL-3400 1" Video Tape Recorder.
The tubes are (almost) all perfect, the internals are in great shape though a few caps are looking a bit ill, the belts are all long gone but my biggest problem is the video head drum has spent too much time in a humid environment and has corroded. Assuming I can dismantle that into two convenient pieces I might try mounting them in a lathe and resurfacing them with emery cloth and then polishing them. No real loss now since you couldn't pass a tape over it as-is. I just need access to a lathe.
The other odd thing is that this machine is all over the internet...but in Europe. This machine is factory wired for 117v 60hz and presumably isn't running 405 line like the others. I can't find anyone else with a model like this over here.
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This 2" tape will take the rest of the night to bake and then cool down.
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robespierre wrote: Are there any other NeXT owners here?

Ooh! OOH! Me! Me! Me!
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After a messy false start I got the tape machine working...then the capstan motor simply stopped and now the transport can't do a play or record without mangling more tape. The capstan servo circuitry is an ancient bodgework with numerous repairs and I have no idea where to find schematics. Looks like this is going on the backburner for now.


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robespierre wrote: Nice. Have you upgraded your DSP memory?
I know that simms were manufactured and sold during the late '90s (by CCRMA?). You can even find prints (but not gerbers) for them online.
At some point I want to do a run and it would be useful to know whether there is any demand.

I know like...nobody with the DSP memory, but you wouldn't be referring to the reverse engineered SIMM layouts I drew years ago, would you? ;)
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IF I got a dime for every proposal or project I tried to kick off, I wouldn't be living in my parents basement. :P
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techknight wrote: Well something isnt right in the VGA circuit somewhere....

I "obtained" an irix 6.5 disk. I decided to put it in, and hit install software. it started a copying progress bar, and soon as it finished, screen when "out of range" while the HDD was still loading stuff.

So again, I forced rebooted, went back to the command window thingy, and typed boot. then it complained about an incomplete miniroot whatever that is. I decided to let it fix itself by pressing F, and screen blacked out again while reading from CD and HDD doing its thing.

Rebooted it, and this time after typing boot, i got a sash prompt, I could do an LS and see what was on the HDD but thats about as far as I could get...

I think SGI is a little bit too advanced for what I am willing to get into, and it doesnt appear its going to be an easy fix.

So I think I am going to pull the HDD since its a nice 2GB SCSI, go stick it in one of my Macs, and toss the machine. I figured I would give it another go, but once again, ended in failure.

Currently though, its running some sort of diagnostics thing with the front LED flashing, and a spinning doodad on the screen console. taking forever.


Spinning doodad and blinking LED is normal. That's just SGI's way to show it's stepping through the various tests instead of leaving the end user confused if the machine is testing or locked solid.

I know for a fact that the the screen resolutions can vary between the PROM and Irix. Years ago I used the SETMON command over a serial console to force the screen resolution to 640x480@60hz because I was running off an ancient plasma display for no helpful reason besides I could.

The thing is however I do not believe SETMON is available from sash or a miniroot so if a weird resolution is the reason you keep losing your picture the best I can suggest is another monitor...OR you do the entire installation headless through a serial terminal, THEN once the install is finished you use SETMON to fix your resolution.
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So I pulled out a spare Quadra 700 and am trying to get an install of A/UX going. So far in terms of hit and miss there's been a lot of misses.

I started by installing 3.0.1. I partitioned it correctly on a 1gb drive and made the mac partition extra large (128mb) for extra software and stuff. The install went smoothly and I did end up with a useable system but the tune-up packages are confusing me.

So officially they are known as Tune-up 1 (two disks) and Tune-up 2 (one disk). Tune-up 1 updates to 3.0.2. Tune-up 2 updates to 3.11 but requires 3.1 and recommends the "AWS Software Upgrade" in order to proceed if you do not have 3.1. I cannot find this, assuming it was some free update in between the tune-ups.

Anyways, even applying tune-up 1 caused everything to go sideways. The machine now boots but the moment A/UX kicks in the screen begins freaking out and the ADB stops responding. Eventually you're dumped to a text prompt because A/UX has given up fighting with the Toolbox for some reason and there's nothing I can do from there because with no ADB the keyboard is dead. Did I simply apply the patch incorrectly?

Also, I've noticed that unless I write protect the floppies the machine trashes the filesystem on the disks. I know bloody well this isn't an issue with the floppy drive as even before I started on this project the drive was removed, cleaned, lubed and tested. It was reading, writing and overall not molesting disks before.
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System ran all night with every hardware and disk exerciser and test utility I had on hand. The machine if flawless. I even had a power interruption just before I woke up this morning and the Quadra was the only machine int the house that wasn't a laptop that didn't go down.

Anyways, PRAM cleared, A/UX was reinstalled starting with the 3.0.1 install media, then the tune-up to 3.0.2, then I used buddy's 3.1 upgrade disc and now I'm trying to apply the tune-up to 3.1.1. Having been so well behaved for the last 24 hours, now it finally starts to be a pain in the ass again.

-First try, insert floppy, system locks solid

*reboot*

-Second try, insert floppy, it mounts but the updater quits with error -2somethingsomething

*reboot*

-Third try, regenerate Tune-Up diskette, insert and it mounts, run the updater and the machine locks solid.

*reboot*

-Fourth try, regenerate diskette again using a disk image from another source*, insert and it mounts and it runs and the update is successfully applied.

The floppy drive is still being a massive pain in the ass and corrupting any disk you feed it unless the write protect is set so I might just have to swap it out and hope the problem goes with it. Otherwise I think I got it sorted out now.

*Both are from the Jagubox FTP, however the working disk image was in /Apple.fixes/supported/3.1/aws-tune.0/, the image that was causing me problems was in /Apple.fixes/supported/aws-tuneup-2.0/.
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This subforum is kinda dead but this is TOTALLY fitting with the theme.

It's a 45 minute long video from Connor Krukosky, known by a few of us as "Conmega".

Funny how that works, huh? We always start small with a few dinky machines and somehow end up with beasts we can barely transport. :mrgreen:
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Is it at all insult to injury that on the last two months the going rate for the MacIvory went haywire?

This one sold for $568 in January.
This one from the same seller sold for $760 a few days later.
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Where the heck are you seeing it had a reserve?
EDIT: Ohhhhhhhhh. It's in the original listing.
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Not mine but daaaaaaamn, that's one complete puppy. It's even the 24-bit model.
......then there's the price. :|

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161945243884
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GL1zdA wrote: I've recently got the MCA version (base MRV + MGE + 24-bit buffer, no Z-buffer) and it cost me a "Cubrun" (the Type 4 "Y" PS/2 complex). So, unless there's something special about the ISA version, it is grossly overpriced.


You didn't by chance get it from someone on vogons, did you? I was offering money for one there and the guy said he ended up trading it for a Type 4 complex. HMMMMM...... ;)

Yeah, I know it's crazy overpriced. My MCA set came with the documentation, cabling and software (TriOx, you still around for me to re-image those disks?) for about $200 back in 2009. Still, I've never seen the ISA version, let alone NiB.
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kjaer wrote: I am missing the GE board for my ISA IrisVision. I made that guy a pretty decent offer several weeks ago, which he refused. Just sayin'.

Looking at his other listings and his prices on keyboards specifically, I doubt you'd ever get him to budge more the $20 on an item.
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R-ten-K wrote:
pentium wrote: Looking at his other listings and his prices on keyboards specifically, I doubt you'd ever get him to budge more the $20 on an item.


$2K for an old IBM PC keyboard? The guy either has no contact with reality or is trying to launder money.

Keyboard collectors came out of left field a few years ago and took everyone by surprise. This weird freak of a group where money means nothing and forget the computers, all they collect are the keyboards, occasionally buying entire systems just to junk it for the sought after keyboard.
It's one thing when someone acknowledges that you have a keyboard for a Symbolics machine but it's another when their only response is "wow, those have those rare Honeywell reed keyswitches!" I don't care about the switches. Were you dropped and abused as a child?!
Why? Because they feel right. They insist that keyboard X is superior to keyboard Y and Z, occasionally carrying around a keyboard with them or their laptop because they don't want to use what they already have. An entire market has sprouted up around them as well selling LED upgrade kits, multicolor keycaps, USB adapters or complete microcontroller replacements. IBM's keyboards, especially the grey plastic Industrial models and keycap kits, are considered the holy grail and fetch stupid amounts of money.
$2000 for a brand new keyboard? Yeah, to them that's reasonable . :shock:
These people have the funds of a furry, the sanity of an Amiga user, the rationale of an audiophile and the dedication of a catholic cardinal. Puts us SGI and big iron collectors to shame. My suggestion is you do not interact with these people, ever. Stamp them out as hard as you can.
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Feh. If the counterfeit is functionally identical to the original I wouldn't be complaining.
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Belongs to one of our locals.

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Apparently the machine is now spoken for.
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Grieving.



He said the boards still had their chips. The recycler pulled all the VLSI's. Even the TG option is unusable. The passive pin plug on the bottom is missing. That was a $250 transaction.....
Best I can salvage out of this is the TG option, the Z-buffer, the Bitplane, the ram and the Bt431KC for the dual cursor hack (okay, I guess that still makes the deal worth it). Enough to max out my second 4D/20 and up the ram in my R3K Indigo but I was hoping for enough parts to make a a running 4D/35.
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The TG option alone makes up for the dead boards. Honestly that was the gem I was after (and it has its chips!) so now I can at least have TWO maxed out 4D/20's. ;)
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Installing AutoCAD R12 and the AME onto a 730TE tablet.

The install went fine (it fast!) but I've lost my AME key! It's not in the box. It's not even in the R12 box! What the hell??
That's a key generated from the product serial number, so even in the unlikely event I were to try and google that, any other keys that someone might of posted elsewhere will not work. Panic! PANIC! Image
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Enjoying my new shirt while the laundry is done.
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fu wrote: lol just a t-shirt pent? is the vid of your steve ballmer parody still around?

I'm trying to get that company to commission five more videos. It's still one of their most popular pieces. I now even have the glasses and awful 80's Trinicon camera to go with the shtick.
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Admit it: you're just trying to beat pentium at this AS/400 game.

His IPL's. He's already way ahead of me. ;)
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