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You got anything that's strictly PCI by off chance?

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Just trying to see if I can find them anywhere cheaper because the local Home Depot has them on clearance...for $25 each......

I need three matching 250V 20A plugs and sockets (L14-20P and L14-20R) and two 250v 15A plugs (LG-15P).
Anyone by chance have a bunch sitting in a box somewhere?

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Yeah I saw those ebay listings and they prices are awesome...until you add up the shipping. $6.99 + $17 for shipping or $6.99 + $7.39 if I want to ship to WA. I'm better off buying locally at those prices.
I already tipped the used construstion supply stores upside down. They got either the wrong gender plugs or only 3-phase parts.

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tjsgifan wrote:
pentium wrote:
You got anything that's strictly PCI by off chance?

I guess some others too, but to narrow it down a bit - What do you need, for what machine and what OS?


Dual PPro running NT. Don't sweat it if you don't got anything.

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I'm trying to test performance to an external RAID enclosure for my O2 but all tests generate results and the following two errors:
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pwrite(): Invalid Argument
pread(): Invalid Argument


...along with really bad fwd_wr and fwd_rd results.
Even testing with the basic diskperf /dev/dsk/dks1d1s7 causes the errors.

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I have two power supplies. One is a 300-1307-07 which was originally in the system and the other is a 300-1400-01 that came from an Enterprise 3500. Both work and both fit in PSU bay 1 in my 3000.

The system has space for a second PSU and the backplane connections are identical. The problem is that the second bay is keyed so that neither of my PSU's can fit.

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Is it safe to remove they keying and slide in the second PSU or is there a specific PSU I require?

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I ran xlisp on my compaq Portable 386 but it seems to be really cranky about running anything.
I really want to get a LISP interpreter running on my PDP-11 though.

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I also tried it on my secondary internal drive which is only 36gb and it gave the errors as well

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EVERYBODY wants a lisp card (or a transputer for that matter). They have been in high demand for years yet nobody who owns them seems to actually use them for anything.
At the prices people keep asking it's far easier to use a software interpreter than hold out for a Nubus/ISA/EISA card.

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Spring cleaning.

4 x IP27 dual 180mhz O2K nodeboards
2 x IP27 195mhz O2K nodeboards
1 x Partial O200 skin kit (blue side panels, bottom metal wedge and blue plastic top)
1 x O2K IO6 module
3 x O2K XIO blanks
4 x Origin 200 feet (locking tabs broken off)

I might also have a single 180mhz O200 logic board and PIMM somewhere. I really want to see this stuff find a home or else it's scrapped. The only things I'm currently seeking is O2K ram kits and a GE8.

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SAQ wrote:
I used to have one of those things, but I think mine only had one of the PSUs. I'd recommend going to SunShack to check out the Sun Systems Handbook ... but SunShack seems to be offline :cry: . Anyone know of another site with it up?

That's because this IS your old enterprise. :P

Right, so it's a specialty module. that answer my question.

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Hamei's got the idea.
The square peg may not fit in the round hole because the manufacturer glued curved inserts to the sides of the hole.

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SAQ wrote:
pentium wrote:
Hamei's got the idea.
The square peg may not fit in the round hole because the manufacturer glued curved inserts to the sides of the hole.

Based on the linked manual the secondary PPU doesn't have an AC feed. Depending on how it's designed that could be a significant difference that would preclude using the "standard" AC-equipped PPU.

Yeah, in this case I ahve a feeling that PPU0 does its own magic and also passes voltages over to PPU1 to redundantly work should there be a failure.

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So the price was announced for the Piston.
For $1000 I can build a far better computer.... :roll:

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The Monkey looks like it would be AWESOME to work with.

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The aggregator is rather vague on compatibility. All it says is that red Adaptec cards work. Others say that only certain TI chipset cards work. Others say Irix sees it as a DM10 .

Anyways, I tried two of my own cards. First one was an Adaptec (1394B-BL3) with TI TSB482AA2 and TSB81BA3 link and physical layer chipsets. It as red. It was Adaptec. Only odd things was it was PCI-X and had FW800. Under 6.5.30 it isn't even seen.

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Next card is a Macally FH-701 with TSB41LV03 and TSB12LV23 chips.
Irix complains about it while booting and only sees it as a 1394 interface when fully booted.

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What use is the card if only seen as a 1394 interface andnot as a DM10 or is there any real difference according to Irix at all beyond the naming?

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There was chatter in the IRC the other day that when seen as a DM10 you can attach DV devices like MiniDV cameras and decks and both stream and control to whatever software you have installed. Stuff like the iSight tries to work but apparently crashes and burns.
That's a hell of a lot more than just hanging disks off the system and a fair bit more useful. From the one picture I could find of the card it looked like any other PCI firewire controller with TI chipsets.
It IS worth nothing that my Macally card (and possibly the Adaptec card too) has an "EEPROM WRITE PROTECT" jumper. I'm curious if you can change the Device ID to something Irix would be more expecting.

Edited: Yes, this was actually asked once before.

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And if your time is worth anything at all, you spend $10 on a card with the right PCI ID and it just 'works' (with all the limitations and quirks of the original DM10)



That's most likely the more efficient thing. ;)

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Should be working.
Just pay shipping.

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Last call or it's getting recycled.

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I have these two awesome low profile thermally controlled heatsinks for a system but because of the VRM's I can't fit them on my system. If anyone has a pair of standard extruded aluminum Socket 8 heatsinks (with fans and clips preferrably) I would be willing to do a straight trade.

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24h last chance.

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Bit the bullet and bought a $20 chinese print server for my parents USB printer. Came with a CD that runs a detection and setup utility for installing the printer via the print server. It runs right off the CD.
Works flawlessly on all the systems running OS X, XP and Vista. Literally five clicks.

The exception is a computer in the art room. It runs XP home with a wireless USB dongle. You run the utility, it sees the server and printer, it installs and configures the printer driver, just like on every other machine but will not talk to the printer. All jobs fail.
To see if it was dropping packets I plugged in my JetDirect equipped LaserJet 4 and set that up and fired off a test page. It worked. :?:
Okay, so it can print to one networked printer but not another and this is the only computer in the house which is having this problem. Printer settings between similar XP systems are identical and this system remains problematic. The only thing special about how the computer talks to the print server as opposed to the JetDirect is that it uses the LPR protocol.

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I thought the Spaceball and The Monkey were bizarre modelling tools thut this thing takes the cake for me.

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You aren't going to find much then. ;)

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Something about the tape I used isn't playing nice with the barcodes and my library is getting confused. I wanted to print off a new sheet.
Last time I used http://tapelabels.librelogiciel.com/ which have a simple config sheet and generated the sheets in pdf files but the site now redirects to http://www.mytapelabels.com/ which is an identical site however now generates useless watermarked pdf's unless you pay a hefty fee to get an API key. Image

Does anyone know of an alternate site? Ebay sells pre-printed sheets however they are equally expensive.

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krfkeith isn't the only kid on the block anymore to own a TransNote. ;)

Opportunity and a disability grant enabled me to buy a TransNote and use it for school. I had to supply the hard drive and OS. The hard drive is now a nice 32gb SSD (fast, but the HDD light stays on) and I found images apparently of the original three disc CD set you used to factory restore the system and recovery partition. They may or may not also reload the recovery partition.
Here's my problem. They don't seem to work.
I attach my IBM PCMCIA CD-ROM drive (can't use anything else due to driver issues) and insert disc 1. Run through prompts to do a full restore which formats the drive, installs Windows 2000 and runs several scripts. System reboots a few times and finally I'm dumped at a desktop with nice IBM OEM branding but that's it. No applications or support for the ThinkScribe is installed and none of the drivers are installed. This includes the CD drive I just did the recovery with. I have the OS and that's it.
Disc 2 contains recovery data as well but you can't boot it and there's no autorun, nor is it ever prompted to be inserted. Disc 3 is just an applications disc but I can't install any of them because the CD can't be seen under the TransNote currently.

There's only one version of the TransNote (and the internals are identical to the X21) that I am aware of so it can't be a hardware mismatch. I must be doing something wrong. Any ideas?

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The instructions only seem to tell me how to copy over the preload stuff, which is primarily windows.

I think.

Everything up until Windows 2000 takes over the recovery process is not a problem for me at all. It's after it takes over that I might be running into problems.

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IT turns out the scripts used during the restore process are super sensitive. If the CD drive hiccups AT ALL it will start skipping steps in the recovery and you end up with missing or unconfigured files.
You have to follow the recovery word for word.

That being said, I finally managed to properly restore the system. From here on in it's like any other system. I made a guide on how the recovery should go.

http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum ... -TransNote

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Over the years my O2K was rolled around a bit, saw an install, got shoved into storage, had parts added while in storage and then finally it was refilled with 250mhz nodeboards. Finally I have it in a permanent location however I'm running into problems.
First time applying power from the perspective of reading the LEDs on the nodeboards everything came up no problem. Unfortunately at the time I didn't have a terminal attached and I forgot about pulling one out for another week.
Fast forward to today Finally I have the VT100 plugged in but now it's behaving weird.
The two boards in N1 and N3 look OK from their respective LED's however in N2 and N4 the boards are locked at:
Code:
11
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00
11

11
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11
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After some board swapping and shifting ram around I found that this was present on three of my nodeboards (one was a spare) and the MSC says that the CPU tests are not responding regardless of what slot you put the nodeboard in. Another nodeboard seems to be failing and disabling any ram (even good ram) that is in the first bank. Only two of my boards are behaving right now. :/

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Nodeboard LED's.

I managed to find the diagram on the wiki (the search seems oddly broken) and it means the CPU's are disabled. Enableall only enables the failing ram banks so I use enable -n -s n3 -cpu ab and a reboot to get them back talking to the system but then things get ugly.
The nodeboards then start screaming about no ram (it's there) and the system goes flying into POD in a panic. It almost feels like I really own two pairs of actually good ram and the other half dozen pairs are all bad but it's hard to say as I have boards declaring banks being faulty when there's nothing in them. I can't even try to pinpoint and filter out bad sticks.


Edited: Yeah, even if I enable the cpu's and put four known good sticks in a questionable nodeboard the result is:

Code:
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Or...

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11
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10
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...which translate to...

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98 Node has no Local memory No RAM or Disabled RAM


....followed by the PROM dumping to POD.
I can understand one nodeboard going south from a memory controller failure, but two nodes PLUS my two spares?? :?

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When you can't rack'em, stack'em. ;)

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Okay, so boy following by Reconda's word I stripped down to the base system (MSC, one nodebaord and an IO6G, because my IO6 appears to be PROM passworded and otherwise useless right now)

Using one of the good nodes with good ram I went into POD, nuked everything and then restarted to let everything get rediscovered. On restart I see:
Code:
WARNING: Board with freq 100 mhz at module 1 slot 1 is attached to a back-plane of 360 mhz frequency

WARNING: Hub at 100 mhz and router at 90 mhz is an unsupported configuration

...otherwise the system runs normally.

Then powered down, removed the node and transferred the known good memory from banks 0 and 1 to one of the questionable nodes. Put it all back together and powered up.

Code:
1B 000: ***No useable ram installed. Need working and enabled memory in bank 0 or 1
1B 000: ***Add working and enabled memory present in bank 0 or 1 and reset the syst

MMSC also displays
Code:
5C0 M 1

Oh yeah, plus the system has locked up and had to be powered down from the breaker.

Reinstall the ram in the good node and confirm that it is good. It is and I get to the PROM.
Okay. So can confirm two good banks worth of ram and one healthy nodeboard. Onwards.

Perform the same POD nuke and reset as before, again the same two warnings. Can now confirm two good nodeboards and four healthy banks worth of ram.

Now repeat putting healthy ram into another questionable nodeboard.
Code:
1B 000: ***No useable ram installed. Need working and enabled memory in bank 0 or 1
1B 000: ***Add working and enabled memory present in bank 0 or 1 and reset the syst

...and again, it locks solid.

Repeat putting known pairs of good ram into remaining two spare nodeboards. Exact same result.

Okay. So now we put one healthy node + ram combo into slot 1 and stuff a questionable node with good ram in the second slot.

on top of our previous memory errors we also now have
Code:
***Warning: Found a new IP27 board in module 1, slot n2, serial KAH055
Please use the 'update' command from the PROM Monitor to update the inventory


and...

Code:
IP27 Node Board, Module 1, Slot n2
ASIC HUB Rev 5, 100 MHz, (nasid 1)
Processor A: **Disabled, Reason = Unuseable bank 0.
Processor A: 250 MHz R10000 Rev 0.0
Secondary Cache 4MB 250MHz Tap 0x9 , (cpu 2)
R10010FPC Rev 0.0
Processor B: **Disabled, Reason = Unuseable bank 0.
Processor B: 250 MHz R10000 Rev 0.0
Secondary Cache 4MB 250MHz Tap 0x9 , (cpu 3)
R10010FPC Rev 0.0
Memory on board, 0 MBytes (Standard), (256 Mbytes - Bank(s) 0 1 disabled)
Bank 0, 128 MBytes Disabled, Reason: Some DIMMs failed mem test.
Bank 1, 128 MBytes Disabled, Reason: Some DIMMs failed mem test.


Running UPDATE and a reset completely disables the node.
Code:
***Warning: Board in module 1, slot n2 is missing or disabled It previously contained a node-board, barcode KAH055 laser 3f3404

Same applies with the other three.

The one thing I have not yet done is put any of the questionable sticks in one of the good nodes in the event I am dealing with a bad stick that killed every node I put it into so far. I have switched around my two routers in case they were acting funny.

On the other hand if you installed both healthy nodes with good ram...
Code:
*** Barrier sync warning: local=4418, NIC 0x3408b0=4400 (promrev mismatch?)
*** Barrier sync warning: local=4446, NIC 0x3408b0=4428 (promrev mismatch?)
*** Barrier sync warning: local=4908, NIC 0x3408b0=4890 (promrev mismatch?)
*** Barrier sync warning: local=4981, NIC 0x3408b0=4963 (promrev mismatch?)

....it appears they need to be flashed. I don't know immediately how to do that without booting into irix.

Edited: Also, if you have in both healthy nodes and then add in one of the questionable nodes with questionable ram you get:

Code:
2A 001:Testing/Initializing all memory ...........              DONE
2A 001: waiting for node with nic 3472e2 at module 1 slot 1 at global barrier...
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2A 001: ........
2A 001: *** Barrier sync warning: local=5090, NIC 0x3472e2=5108 (promrev mismatch?)
2A 001:Checking partitioning information .........              DONE
2A 001: > Global barrier failed at line 5337 node 0
2B 001: Local slave entering slave loop
2A 001: Local master entering slave loop
1A 000:
1A 000: *** General Exception on node 0
1A 000: *** EPC: 0xc00000001fc3a2e8 (0xc00000001fc3a2e8)
1A 000: *** Press ENTER to continue.

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They connect to the O200's. There's an experiment in progress. :twisted:
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I got a mix of everything. I have several sets of bright green banded ram (none seem to work), a few sets of dark green banded ram (two of them are in use and the rest apparently do not work) and eight sticks of white banded stuff (also in use).

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Be careful: the Challenge/Onyx uses HVD SCSI internally. That's *high* voltage diff and will destroy SE or LVD disks!.

Plus nuke your SCSI controller and IO4. :(

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Question: how do you flash nodes that the system marks as disabled? flash -m 1 -s 2, flash -n n2, or even flash -c either say...
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NOTE: m1 n1: prom file version 6.156 is the same as current version 6.156: prom
not flashed


...or say nothing is there to be flashed.
Also, I see this at startup:

Code:
WARNING: downrev router board in module 1 slot r1

I wasn't aware you could flash those too.

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Thought as much. Still however can't persuade the other nodes to flash.

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Shook loose a childhood memory.

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They supplied systems for a late 90's CGI Canadian show called Monster by Mistake.
Won't lie. It was a pretty awful show.

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bluecode wrote:
jan-jaap wrote:


Fascinating. What a dream job (guaranteed job security) for one lucky guy. Problem is, anybody good enough at PDP-11 stuff is probably not going to want to work for another 37 years.

And the people who DO want that kind of job security can't get the training professionally anymore. :(

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