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ClassicHasClass wrote: If this is the machine I saw when I was over last weekend, it is indeed a very nice box.


The one from this post sold.

The system you were looking at is a second machine that is on ebay now. I will give forum members a significant discount.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251904540410?ss ... 1555.l2649
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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I will send you a bootable 73 gig drive and O2 sled for the cost of shipping. Welcome to the forum and PM me your address. :D
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The reason for me to endure some of the problems with SGI gear is the same reason I love the older hotrods and muscle cars, style. These machines for me are worth the occasional headache for the shear style and legacy of running them. Unlike a lot of people here who run these 24/7 mine are used rarely and turned on and off all the time. My kid plays on an octane2 whenever he feels like it. In the three years he has been using the system it has never failed to start and play his games. The O2+ does what it wants when it wants and truly is my arch rival. I have replaced everything but the plastics and still starts when it wants to.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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I will swap you a Tezro for it.
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hamei wrote:
No excuse for this. That part at least should be bulletproof. Without an L1 you can't do anything .



Nothing is bulletproof. I find it hard to doom an entire model because some develop the same error. In the last several years I have picked up literally dozens of these systems with only one having an L1 issue. One look at the one on ebay and you can see it has had a hard life. Once these systems leave the main company that used them there is no telling what has happened to them.

I have pulled apart several of these to find corrosion on the back of the main board. For this to happen they had to have been used or stored in a wet/ humid environment. When we lived near the beach I replaced several power supplies and motherboards in our HP/Dell PCs.


Is it a stunning design? no. Is a worthless pile of a computer? no Take any bad ass Dell and throw it around, store it out side for two years, ship it 3000 miles poorly packed and then tell me how reliable it is.

I have sold and continue to sell the O350s with very little grief. Like I PMed you, "thanks for tainting my target market" :lol: Do you still want me to send a few mainboards for your beloved O350? :twisted:
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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[[C|-|E]] wrote:
mopar5150 wrote:
Take any bad ass Dell and throw it around, store it out side for two years, ship it 3000 miles poorly packed and then tell me how reliable it is.


I am not completely sure about this... some of our Dells and HPs have been working in cold rooms (4ºC) for many many years and there they are, without any problem. And I am talking about cold rooms with lots of humidity because we are opening and closing the doors many times a day :D .



4 deg! I have never frozen my SGIs but it might be worth it. A true silent Octane, no fans. :D I live in a place where during the summer it gets to 91 degrees... at 4am.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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Forum posts are a lot like texts in the way they can get taken out of context. I do think a little patience with the language barrier goes a long way.

Despite getting my a$$ kicked by my A350 I also would love a Prism just for the adventure (or suffering) of owning one. There have been a few in my area but they are usually hammered or missing parts.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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Most of the SGI gear I get are from Silicon valley and are usually just piled on a pallet. I believe most of these high dollar systems were used in large corporations and are no more than a used up asset. On the rare occasion I find one from a private owner they tend to be nearly perfect, and costly.
I have been lucky to find a few scrappers who call me when they get SGIs in and have saved several pallets from getting scrapped.

The hard part is that any of the salvage yards within 10 hours of me think that a smashed O2 is worth $300.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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I will take it!
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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Kumba wrote: Did anyone here win this auction?




I bought this and frankly was surprised I won. I have bid on many items from the seller but my max usually winds up being 80-90% less than the winning bid. I just wish my name was bob. :lol:
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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Payment sent :)
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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I know this is a year old, but this is easier than pulling the snap hat.
I found that if you unplug the HDD then boot the system and press esc to get to the prom menu.
Press 5 and when the prom password comes up hit enter and go back to the menu.
Now hit 1 to start system and let it fail then hit enter at the boot error screen.
Once back to the menu hit 5 and it will go into the prom monitor.
Once there enter "resetpw" and the password is gone.

I have tried this on several machines and it works.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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Sorry to hear of the hard times. It will get better, and I am a firm believer that everything happens for a reason.

10 years ago I watched my aerospace career and my hot rod shop fall away mostly due to the economy. In a 3 month period I went from 2 very good income streams to looking for work. Was the best thing that could have happened to me. I dumped two huge stress sources and really simplified my life.

You will overcome this as long as you don't lose it mentally. Sounds like you have a good woman standing by your side and an open road ahead of you.

That said,
If you can get the Tezro and Fuel boxed I will buy them back from you so you don't take huge losses on them. Good luck
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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PM sent for the system.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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I believe I have those cables from an Onyx4 rack. I will dig them out and get you a pin out. Feel free to hound me with PMs in a few days in case I ADHD this.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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I would take out everything except for the motherboard and PSU and try the jumper trick. I have also seen these where the power button is stuck in not allowing the system to start.

Is this a 400Mhz system? It is possible they installed the CPU without flashing the prom. But the jumper trick should have gotten around that.

I have motherboards and CPUs If you need one.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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Did you try the startup jumper trick yet? If the O2 sat for a while unplugged the jumper routine may fix it.

If not I can send you a 400mhz motherbord and CPU with 1gig ram for $350 shipped.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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That is awesome! You do need more light though. :)
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Do you have a photo of these cards? I have 100+ cards and it is easier to find something if I know what it looks like.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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How the heck did I miss that one? Right in my own back yard.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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Hey Guys,
I have an Onyx4 (O350) for sale. Dual 1Ghz CPUs, 8 gig ram, 143 gig 15k hard drive, V12 graphics, DVD, revolution audio board, PS/2 ports.

Looking to get $700 shipped in the US.

I have three of these systems.

Here is the ebay link. http://www.ebay.com/itm/252322913495?ss ... 1555.l2649

Thanks,
John
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R-ten-K wrote: I imagine there is a forum, somewhere else, where physicists and mathematicians put up equations written by software "engineers" to laugh out loud at them.



That is funny right there!
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robespierre wrote: It's set up the same was as recondas's O350 , with InfinitePerformance graphics, which is V12.
The 1 GHz R16000 is physically bigger and won't fit the Fuel V12 card when the node has 4 CPUs, only 2.



Exactly, This is one I built. I shorten the CPU shroud so the V12 will fit and add a fan under the V12.

The Onyx4 Systems I have use a separate 2U chassis with the ATI cards for graphics.

I now have a Rackmount Tezro/ Onyx350 system, so I will take all of these apart and document the differences in photos.
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I replaced my octane2 with one of these conversions and other than a PSU failure it has been a trooper. Granted it only gets used a few times a week but I have had way better luck than my Octane2. Couple this with the much lower cost of replacement parts for the O350 makes it a better IRIX machine.

The O350 does lack the Octane2s cool factor. For me the cool factor wore off after I had a second ram failure on the Octane2 that claimed one of the 1g modules.

Everybody has their own SGI demon child. For me it is the Fuel, I have suffered so many times with those systems that I actually enjoy parting them out.

My favorite system is a quad 700 Tezro. Cool factor and very reliable.
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Hey Guys,
Here is an Onyx350 system I picked up that has the factory V12 install. I was amazed at how many parts are different from a standard Origin350.

Let me know if you guys want any other photos or info.

Code: Select all

002c12-L1>serial all

Data                            Location      Value
------------------------------  ------------  --------
Local System Serial Number      NVRAM         M2100762
Reference System Serial Number  NVRAM         M2100762
Local Brick Serial Number       EEPROM        NCC247
Reference Brick Serial Number   NVRAM         NCC247


EEPROM      Product Name    Serial         Part Number           Rev  T/W
----------  --------------  -------------  --------------------  ---  ------
INTERFACE   2U_INT_53       NCC247         030_1809_003          B    00
IO9         IO9             NDZ742         030_1771_005          A    00
ODYSSEY     ODY128B1_2      MVV600         030_1909_003          C    00
RISER       2U_RISER        NBD086         030_1808_005          A    00
NODE        IP53_4CPU       NBB714         030_1959_002          A    00
SNOWBALL    no hardware detected
PS 1        DPS-500EBE      XPD0339003397  060-0178-003          S3
PS 2        DPS-500EBE      XPD0339002947  060-0178-003          S3

EEPROM     JEDEC-SPD Info           Part Number        Rev Speed  SGI
---------- ------------------------ ------------------ ---- ------ --------
DIMM 0     CE000000000000000CECB100 M3 46L2820ET3-CA0   3E   10.0  N/A
DIMM 2     CE000000000000000CD8B100 M3 46L2820ET3-CA0   3E   10.0  N/A
DIMM 4     no hardware detected
DIMM 6     no hardware detected
DIMM 1     CE000000000000000CDBB100 M3 46L2820ET3-CA0   3E   10.0  N/A
DIMM 3     CE000000000000000CE4B100 M3 46L2820ET3-CA0   3E   10.0  N/A
DIMM 5     no hardware detected
DIMM 7     no hardware detected





System Maintenance Menu

1) Start System
2) Install System Software
3) Run Diagnostics
4) Recover System
5) Enter Command Monitor

Option? 5
Command Monitor.  Type "exit" to return to the menu.
>> hinv
System  SGI-IP35
4 800 MHz IP35 Processors
Main memory size: 4096 Mbytes
Graphics Controller
PCI IOC4: in slot 1, (adapter 0)
PCI Gigabit Ethernet (tigon3) Controller 1
Integral SCSI controller 2: Version IOC4 ATA
CDROM: unit 0 on SCSI Controller 2, (cdrom(2,0,7))
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version Qlogic 12160
Integral SCSI controller 1: Version Qlogic 12160
>> hinv -v
IP35 Node Board, Module 002c12
ASIC BEDROCK Rev 2, 200 MHz, (nasid 0)
Processor A: 800 MHz R16000 Rev 2.2
Secondary Cache 8MB 400MHz Tap 0xa , (cpu 0)
R16010FPC Rev 2.2
Processor B: 800 MHz R16000 Rev 2.2
Secondary Cache 8MB 400MHz Tap 0xa , (cpu 1)
R16010FPC Rev 2.2
Processor C: 800 MHz R16000 Rev 2.2
Secondary Cache 8MB 400MHz Tap 0xa , (cpu 2)
R16010FPC Rev 2.2
Processor D: 800 MHz R16000 Rev 2.2
Secondary Cache 8MB 400MHz Tap 0xa , (cpu 3)
R16010FPC Rev 2.2
Memory on board, 4096 MBytes (Standard)
Bank 0, 1024 MBytes (Premium)  <-- (Software Bank 0)
Bank 1, 1024 MBytes (Premium)
Bank 2, 1024 MBytes (Premium)
Bank 2, 1024 MBytes (Premium)
IXBRICK Bridge, Module 002c12
ASIC BRIDGE Rev 3, (widget 15)
adapter IOC4 Rev 4f
(pci id 1)
adapter IOC4-ATA Rev 4f
(pci id 1)
peripheral CDROM, BUS 0, ID 0, MATSHITA DVD-ROM SR-8178
adapter PCI (SCSI interface) Rev 6
(pci id 3)
adapter GigE Rev 15
(pci id 4)
IXBRICK Bridge, Module 002c12
ASIC BRIDGE Rev 3, (widget 15)
adapter ID (Vendor 1412 Device 1724 class 4 subclass 4)
(pci id 1)
ASIC XBOW Rev 3, on CBrick, Module 002c12
ODYSSEY Graphics Board, Module 002c12
>>

350_5.JPG
Rear of V12 cage. solid plate no vents
350_9.JPG
Top of V12 cage.
350_10.JPG
Bottom of V12 cage with small air duct put there for reference.
350_12.JPG
V12 heatsink retainer.
350_13.JPG
V12 out of cage showing heatsink.
350_14.JPG
Onyx350 fan on left Origin fan on right.
350_15.JPG
Onyx350 top, Origin bottom.
350_16.JPG
Onyx350 top, Origin bottom.
350_17 (2).JPG
Slot in Onyx350 fan lines up with side vent.
350_17.JPG
Onyx350 IP air dam on top, Origin bottom.
350_18.JPG
Small air duct mounted on rear panel.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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Hey Guys,

I have an Origin350 with 2x800/ 4g ram/ 143g 15k hdd/ v10/ DVD/ USB. It uses the USB card for the keyboard and mouse. I can add the PS/2 serial board for an additional $75 if you need to use PS/2 KB & mouse.

I am asking $350 shipped in the US.

Thanks,
John

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necron2600 wrote: I have always wondered.. how much louder is this system compared to an Octane, or even a Tezro, that would be a couple feet at most from your ears? Higher pitched noises or lower pitched?


I would say it is as load as a Tezro but at a different frequency. The big fans on an O350 are in the back so under a desk or in a rack they aren't to bad. But, if you set one of these on a table with the rear of the unit near a wall it is as loud as an Octane in fast fan.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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vishnu wrote: John, did you sell all three of them? Or was only one of your O350s an Onyx 4?



I sold several systems and everybody wanted the Oynx4 plastics. I have one more set of the Onyx4 plastics and 3 sets of the Onyx350 plastics.


The rest of the system is standard Origin350. What setup were you looking for?
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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Thanks! If there is an SGI god then I will likely burn in hell for some of my failed hacks. :)

Other than the special V12 hardware these systems are all the same. With a router brick (and some serial number work) they could be connected together and be happy. They don't need the Vpro to be connected and I had one of the Onyx4 bricks connected to an Onyx2 G-brick.

The rack Tezro and Onyx350 use Vpro graphics however the Onyx4 used a separate 2U chassis with a special AGP riser with ATI cards.

I have some of the Onyx4 graphics bricks and will do a teardown and post the photos.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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I have known good spares for the O2 and you can have them for the cost of shipping. I may have an entire O2 without plastics you can have.

Pm me your name and address and I will get you a shipping cost.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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That was awesome! I wish more 18 year olds had that kind of determination. I can relate as I have salvaged and revived several '50s cars, Atari vector arcade machines and an Onyx rack.

My '51 Dodge and the Onyx were similar in that they both caught fire....twice.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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What sort of price range are you looking for? dhjj has several 4x700 O350s for sale. He is your best bet for that many.
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opcode wrote: It has been up for some time. That price is insane. Maybe he is reading from the SGI price sheet lol.


You reminded me of this price sheet. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16728414&p=7367158&hilit=sgi_prices.pdf#p7367158


His price would have been cheap back then.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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Hey Guys,
I have a D-media BOB, cables and DM3 board. $250 shipped in the US.

Thanks.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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I think it would have been successful with SGI grade graphics and a reasonable price. I like the look of the system.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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I have gone through many Tezros and origin350s, I have never seen a single CPU version.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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Learn something new everyday. You could swap out the main board as that should be the only difference.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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That's very interesting.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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Hey Japes,
I have another one of the PS/2 com port boards and yes it does require a teardown. You can have it for shipping costs if you want it.

Only real pain is getting the riser board off.
If the thing isn't on fire it's a software problem.

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