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hi there,
I installed many times xmame. but i neve had chance to get it running and watch my favourites coin up games... can ne1 tell me what i have to do after the tardist installation?... can be usefull to say that I also have a huge 3800+ ZIP file for my NT xmame?.. can i use it with SGI xmame?... how?

more easly.... how do i play xmame??? eheheheh

thanks in advance
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I found last night that $xmame -defaultgame romname starts the game.... :]

thanks for your help.... the fact is that i tought it were a X11 GUI interface like the Windoze .. and since default untarred (or tardistalled) xmame wont start cause of missing pacman (at least my clean installation)....

but now i got the point... so i have to set the game i want to play.. ther';s no browser like windows right?
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cool.. but how to use it?.. i followed the Java executable to sun website.. but no Irix Java executable there.. :\

any advice? am I missing anything?

thanks in advance

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i've downloaded it this afternoon from the Challenge and i'll guess i'll try it later tonight..


many thanks for all those information, i love when tester comes out with lots usefull information about software and especially when this involve also a 'keeping' alive the IRIX scene...
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I done the same 2 weeks ago.. and same louder fan.. my Octane was just cleaned so i'm almost sure it just need more airflow.. and so i just removed the SE cause it was even louder than the O200.
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you mean Houdini Releae 6.5 for IRIX??... sidefx.com website still talks about Houdini 6.1 ... you have any other links about it?

and also.. voices told me that Sidefx will drop IRIX support since version 7.0 :( .. anyone can confirm that?



EDITED : Found it :) i'll try it later tonight on my octane.. now trying on XP... and found some bugs.. it must be a Gold release btw.. i guess.
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DaJuice wrote: It's not a gold release, it's still beta. SESI will release new builds weekly, until all major bugs are discovered and squashed. Then it will go Gold, it was the same with 6.1.


.. and i found some already :) ..

do you also have any news about IRIX support dropping by SideFX?
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did you successfully installed it?.. its first time that i cant get it installed..
i downloaded the tar.gz file then i have a Tar file and two directories, where inside one directory ther's a 'houdini_install' script. If i run it it popups the usual winterm windows but instead of installing it it tells me that i must run the setup as root (while I am root when running the script).

maybe i really have to login as root instead of doing 'su", even if this sounds strange?

the windows version installed properly instead.. but some bugs makes it crash or close down very often here. :)
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thanks.. i'll give a try later tonight.. how you found it btw? stable enought?
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Hi there,
i got the following errors and i cant get out even with google.

I cant print with applications like Mozilla, StarOfffice and so on, but i can print a test page from the printers control Panel.

when trying to print from mozilla i get the following error in my console:

lp: error - scheduler not responding!



I tried installing the new ESP printer menager from the .24 release but didnt fixed the problem so i removed and got back to usual printing tools, but i'm almost sure the problem in on the CUPS side (fw_cups running here)

all was working fine until some time ago, then i dont know what changed here that wont let me print. even http://localhost:631/admin gives me empty page (but not a 404 Not found).



any ideas?
thanks in advance
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thanks foetz,

but sadly this aint fixed the problem .. every system links seams correct.. but i still have the same error :(



FIXED... i reinstalled the 'lp' stuffs from IRIX.. and removed the ESP that was isntalled with .24 (that's incompatible with 'lp') .. thanks
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Gadgets:

- SGI violet cofee mug filled with 'silicongraphics' old style logo
- INDY balls red, green, blue
- Silicongraphics desk clock
- Indigo2 posters (2)
- (had)Silicongraphics football foam big ball (stolen at office, stil angru about that)

Tshirts:

- O2 owned
- Long shirt Purple Indigo2
- Green "Kller Impact" Indigo2 shirt with japanese sign
- Gargoyle Silicongraphics Shirt
- Silicongraphics Human resource red Tshirt
- Silicongraphics - IBM partnership tshirt
.... (many others, CISCO, SUN, Intergraph, MANY Softimage Tshirts)

I should take some pictures and put 'em on neko gagdets gallery.. i'll do anytime soon.
I might also be forgetting some stuffs..
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damn.. i hope they're just bit late with IRIX release... i wont imagine if houdini has been really dismissed from IRIX :(
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I use it since months, with Octane as the server, and my office workstation as client when i'm at work..

i love it and it works perfectly. I usually use it in a 'screen' session when i need apps like Lopster, or xchat running from home when i'm at office.
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I used mIrc.. until i discovered XChat.. that is way nicer than Irc.


and i use it on windoze and IRIX..

cheers
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aa5xd wrote:
miunk wrote: Thinking of getting an octane2 -- if I wait perhaps I can find a dual r12k 400mhz v12 for around $400 dollars.



man !!! if you ever get what you have specified of octane2 , I will give u a double....


:o



if So ... I'll give you a triple!!
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http://azureus.sourceforge.net/

Java Torrent Client.

really cool.. but sadly needs Eclipse stuffs to work even with the .jar file. so i had no luck to run it on the Octane.

but i tried it on shitdows and its a really great torrent app.

happy xmas :)

I also agree with OpenOffice new release.. that'd great.
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my octane (not the last octane2) .. went packed NOT so well.. and the guy who was delivering.. was ROLLING the box until my office door... when i noticed that delivery was for me i was SCARED "oh no! the octane!!.. hey you damn idiot!!"....

at the end.. the octane had NO damages at all.
but i must adit.. i must had be really lucky.


that irewoulfe octane must be really bad shipped and really bad handled by the postage.. cause Octane are rock solid.. that one has been seriously damaged like its being thrown from the 4th floor..

damn that's bad.
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HI,
I'm sure this topic has been covered a lot about Origin200 + Gigachannel, but I'm trying this with Origin2000 deskside. If this also has been covered i cant find yet here so I'll just share my own experience and maybe we'll get this working out.

First. I didnt took a diary of the whole from the beginning but who was on channel (IRC) knows almost eveything about how it goes here atm with my tests, and obviously IRC as been really usefull because we could make tests and consideration in realtime.

Second. I'm still trying to get it *working* so this want to be just a start, I'll post a complete description of my steps with evrything i did and with detailed pictures later on when the work will be finished and, again, Working.

by now I'll just post the short text version. (you can find pictures on my website, under "My hardware->tech side)




ok.. Day1, the Presenter + Octane XIO w/presenter board and SI+Tram arrived.
I bought that whole auction specially for two reasons, the Presenter and the SI board.

Presenter apart, the SI was ment from the beginning to be my graphics head in the Origin2000.

First hardware modifications.
I used a spare MSCSI board to take apart what's needed to let a SI board fit in a O2000 XIO (maybe this also fits in a Gigachannel, i guess they are pretty the same architecture) and the needed things is JUST the XIO locker, entirely.

1) so just remove the screws that lock the basement of the whole locker stuffs and the two locking hooks that are near the XIO connector, from the "sacrified" board (MSCSI in my case).

2) remove the similar hooks from the SI board.

3) remove the fron metal panel from the SI board (where 13w3 connector is, removing the 13w3 screws as well that keep the front panel there)

4) screws the XIO Locker on the SI board.

that's it. now the SI GFX board is ready to be fitted and locked to the O2000, what's missing is the front panel that we removed before and that must be obtained by some 'hand work, metal cutting to archieve a frontpanel from, for example, a filler front panel that will be just plaint metal. why we do that?.. because the Locker have such handle that is not ment to be on the SI.. and so we need a hole to let such locker pass throught. Why we need a blank plate (better if from Octane/O200).. because i wont thrash the original one :) so i'm just building a new one so that if we'll need the SI again we'll have the original unbroken frontpanel.

I didnt made such frontpanel yet.. maybe I'll do that tomorrow.

that's almost done.. just a note.. it "seams" that the graphics head works with IRIX .21 at last.. not more recente release.. this sucks.. but at same time.. its worth (at least for me :) ).

that's the output of the miniroot "inst" hinv when a SI board is inside a O2000:





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Hardware:

CPUARCH=R10000
IP27
CPUBOARD=IP27
MODE=64bit
SUBGR=IP27
GFXBOARD=MGRAS
MACHINE=Onyx2 MXI, SI    <---- yeah
SASHNAME=sash64
TARGOS=-1
DISTOS=-1


next update.. after .21 install will be finished and saw working.. by now.. I just hope you'll enjoy the simple yet non working but exciting experience I had.

I just hope this will works out.

I'm also already preparing proper pictures to show about the hardware mod.. that's btw pretty simple.

If anyone would test it on a GIGAchannel it would be cool..

to answer the question "how you inserted a SI+ Tram ".. well.. it fits with no problems.

see you soon for updates.

cheers.
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UPDATE.

after couple of tries and guesses, dexter pointed me at the "nogfxkbd 1" environment.. but right after his guess he read that this disable graphics and Keyboard.. not just keyboard so we tought that wasnt good and usefull...

well, while dexter was reading porn, erm, onyx2 spawn report (blossonmedia), i gave a try anyway to that setenv nogfxkbd 1.

result.. i lost my console.. result, i was in panic.

result.. i switched the tft on the analogue input (where my 13w3 cable resides) and it was there!!
the "Welcome to 'machinename'" purple screen with the Prom menu is. :) i almost got mad and crazy, spamming the channel with such excitment.

nothing more right now than a graphical menu, no mouse movement nor keyboard working yet.. but WE DID IT.. graphics out from the SI.

took pictures as well.. but, i'll post later.. yeah.. later :)

keep tuned for updates.

cheers.


actually we're doing nothing more than the Origin2000 SI VIZ kit.. SI+IOG6.. but without an IOG6 and a CadDuo instead.. nothing special then.. but its fun and cool anyway :) let's hope it goes further on.
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Update: WE DID IT !! and we did it well.

ok.. end of story.. with complete success and fun.

I'm preparing right now my tech page about how to archieve this result, with pictures and detailed steps, but meanwhile here's a summary report on how we did it.

Object: Making a Origin2000 having a graphic Head, Keyboard and Mouse, without the Origin2000 SI VIZ Sgi kit. (without the IOG6).

Steps:
-1- Board modding (see above, pictures to come soon)
-2- Prom settings
-3- Irix Tricks
-4- vine/beer drinking

for the first step.. as stated.. see above. i'm already working at the pictures for it.

second step, prom setting.

Watching at the Onyx2 Prom and after many guesses, tries, and fails the resulting printenv of the Prom should be something like the following.

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AutoLoad=Yes
dbgtty=/dev/tty/ioc30
root=dks0d1s0
nonstop=0
rbaud=19200
SystemPartition=dksc(0,1,8)
OSLoadPartition=dksc(0,1,0)
OSLoader=sash
OSLoadFilename=unix
TimeZone=PST8PDT
console=g
oldConsolePath=/hw/module/1/slot/io1
gConsoleIn=/hw/module/1/slot/ioc5
gConsoleOut=/hw/module/1/slot/io3
diskless=0
nogfxkbd=1
scsihostid=00
ProbeAllScsi=n
RestorePartEnv=y
dbaud=9600
volume=80
sgilogo=y
netaddr=192.168.1.6
cpufreq=250
ConsolePath=/hw/module/1/slot/io1
ConsoleOut=/dev/tty/ioc30
ConsoleIn=/dev/tty/ioc30


the above reflect the following XIO configuration:

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- SI Board in slot 3 (io3)
- Xtalk + CadDuo Pci in slot 5 (io5)
- whatever else installed on other slots


Notes about variable:

the variable that made all the success possible.. has been the "nogfxkbd 1" setting. yeah, crazy but true. we tried many settings.. many changes.. but nothing went out of the SI until we set that variable.

BE AWARE that since now you'll loose the serial (console) port since its going out on the graphics port (like when you boot a Octane, O2 or every workstation, the purple screen with the booting messages).

Note. to be able to access the Prom menu again you need to remove the SI board, then the following message will appear:

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Installing Graphics Console...
Ignoring invalid gConsoleOut value: /hw/module/1/slot/io3
graphics install: searching for pipe 0
klgraphics: System has no GFX


no worries, this will go away when you'll re insert the SI Board, but now you have, as usual, the console port available with the regular Prom menu.

another note, since you dont have anymore access to the Prom menu (board installed again), you HAVE to set the Autoload variable, else you'll just have a nice looking airduster with a nice graphical menu that waits you to click or press the '1' button to start the system, but you wont be able to do that yet, the Cadduo doesnt work yet.

(note: even the Aux console doesnt work)



that said, we're ready to go on step 3 "Irix Tricks".. but, again, you must have the bove environments properly set, specially autoload, nogfxkbd and gconsole.



Irix part:

since ther's no system keyboard nor mouse, the system simply doesnt recognize any input devices and wont start xdm and the windoemenager.. but now.. you'll have the serial working again and the network (if prior configured), so just login on console (better, since we need to run setmon).

first thing we need to find our ports from the Cadduo board, for mouse and keyboard. those are listed with the command

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# ls -alR /hw |more


and in my case they were:

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/hw/module/1/slot/io5/xtalk_pci/pci/1/pckb
/hw/module/1/slot/io5/xtalk_pci/pci/1/pcms


so we need to link the /dev/input/mouse and keyboard properly.

note: I guess because this is now a "onyx2" like.. we got TWO /dev/input directories, /dev/input1 and /dev/input2 (correct me if I'm wrong on this), since the IOG6 of the Onyx2 have two keyb/mouse inputs.

so the commands to links our ports to the devices IRIX needs are:

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ln -sf /hw/module/1/slot/io5/xtalk_pci/pci/1/pckb /dev/input1/keyboard
ln -sf /hw/module/1/slot/io5/xtalk_pci/pci/1/pcms /dev/input1/mouse

ln -sf /hw/module/1/slot/io5/xtalk_pci/pci/1/pckb /dev/input2/keyboard
ln -sf /hw/module/1/slot/io5/xtalk_pci/pci/1/pcms  /dev/input2/mouse

it might work with /dev/input as well.. didnt tried yet.

then we need to tell the Xserver which inputs devices to use then.. since it cant find anything makes it happy.

/var/X11/xdm/Xservers should be looking like the following

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:0 secure /usr/bin/X11/X -bs -nobitscale -c -pseudomap 4sight -solidroot sgilightblue -cursorFG red -cursorBG white -devdir /dev/input1


the bold text is what we need.

now we're ready to shake..

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/usr/gfx/setmon -x 1280x1024_60; (/usr/gfx/stopgfx ; /usr/gfx/startgfx )&


watch the clogin panel appears.. the mouse moves and the keyboard types!

That's it.


many special Thanks goes to Dexter for starting this "project" with me and for keeping me encouraged during the tests, and to Grobarium for the latest, savefully tips about Irix, and everyone were in the channel posting tips, guesses or ideas. without those guys this would never been possibile :D


step 4 ... you dont need any howto :p
Cheers!

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nekonoko wrote: Which IRIX version did this work with? I remember reading that the O200 w/graphics head required a less recent IRIX version (6.5.19 or something) - is that still the case?


Installed a fresh copy of 6.5.21 since I also read about issues on >21 releases but I'm going to clone the disk to have a backup of the actual working system and try then to overlay to .27

I'll let you know asap.


just to anticipate my work of tomorrow... I'll try to fit in a ... presenter (XIO) board hooked on the SI+tram and see how it'll goes.

I just finished looking at the "to do" that will be needed and sadly ther's no way to add the XIO Locker as in the SI because the Presente board doesnt have XIO connector at all hence no hole for the XIO connector screws.. also i'll need to make a little metal cut on the metal divider of the XIO slots to let the cables that links SI and Presenter board to pass thought when inserted.


I'll keep you posted as well with that upgrade. A presenter will much better than a Monitor as a Server monitor screen :)

and at last, when I'll receive it, I'll also add the PCI RAD 8ch board, but that is not a big challenge since is already ment to work in the Origin2000/Onyx2. Interesting thing will be to see if this works since I'm using the CadDuo board, Dexter found somewhere that Cadduo on Octanes disables audio.. we all think that this wont happens on the Origin since it might be a Octane Xbow limitation/hinibition cause of the Dual use of a workstation.


Cheers.
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nekonoko wrote: Which IRIX version did this work with? I remember reading that the O200 w/graphics head required a less recent IRIX version (6.5.19 or something) - is that still the case?



Just installed 6.5.27 (overlays over my prior .21 fresh install) (and while listening "Carmina Buranah" :D )

Everything seams fine.

so ... everything woking here.. with .27 IRIX release.




cheers.
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loonvf wrote: Hi sum][one !
but ended up with problems, getting the Xsystem running
And I noticed that keyboard and mouse were not detected inside IRIX.
Only in the PROM monitor.

Good that it is weekend now.

I hope you can help me with additional questions?
Oh I also tried SE card succesfully.


chevarium might be helpfull here about this since is the one that fixed the X part, my guess after our experience is that you might be missing the correct links for /dev/input1 /dev/input2 that I stated above.. do you tried those yet?

maybe you should also do a "ls -laR" and check where your keyboard and mouse ports are located (ioc3?).

then adding the -devdir /dev/input1 in the Xservers file might also fix the Xserver starting problem.

hope this help and waiting for chevarium feedback as well (or anyone else :) ).

cheers.




UPDATE: i'm now trying to get IRIX recognize and use the presenter board I just fitted and hooked to the SI board. by now no luck.. but i'm doing a "install hardware" and i'm quiet ready to reboot and see if its gone right. else.. it might be that i'm just asking too much to this Origin2000 :D

keep you posted.
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UPDATE:
ok then .. overlay to .27 worked apparently with no problems. didnt tested so much thought but the system seams ok.

sadly the presenter board didnt worked.. nor in hinv and no display out on it.
I reoverlayed with .27 with "install hardware".. but no luck.
I had to remove a metal plate from the Chassis, but it was worth a try, just sad it doesnt work.

ok then.. i guess that's all about surgery operations on my Origin2000... now I'll just wait for the other Xtalk to let me host the RAD audio board.

cheers.
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colin wrote: Can you use more than one head?

Who *wouldn't* want an 8 processor workstation! :)


eheh .. dunno :) .. i'll look for some SE later next months and I'll try that for sure.. now i'm pointing to get a "real" onyx2 ;)


cheers.
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installed.. right click on the viewport.. select "wireframe"... (or shade if you're in wireframe)... booom.


man this proggy crashes with nothing here.. dunno it might be my Octane that is messy.. but i cant really use it for more than 5 mins without a crash.

cheers ;)
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no IRIX download apparently :(

wanted to try it on the Onyx2....
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I missed the one Nekochanners made last year ... i'd like a new one and I ope I'll can join you all.

cheers.

would be nice France... cause closer to Italy.. but I damn want to drink Guinness.. which make the choice go for Ireland :p
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Brombear wrote: Hmm,

maybe not the worst, but when I saw SoftImage in 1997 the first time on an sgi workstation I really wondered about the ugly gui. Though I have to admit that I never used SoftImage, so I cannot say if it was impractical to work with.

Matthias


Softimage|3D had the better GUI i ever used at the time ... and still I enjoy some cool stuffs have been ported to XSI too .. (middle mouse click is just one example)..

Softimage|3D wasnt able to run on dual screen tought.. which was odd.

Maybe the "look" wasnt nice to many people but it was fast and reliable.

cheers.
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sad its just for MacOS.. which i dont have any yet....

cheers
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I'm trying to remotely desktop login using Xnest... but seems not working.

was using Xdep32 on windoze .. and now that I moved to suse on my laptop i need something similar.. and tried Xnest.. but i cant get it working... it complaints about fonts that doenst find.. and maybe that's the problem... anyone have any idea?

cheers.
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... ok I must definetly be asking silly questions... or nobody here uses Linux.

I'll try to figure it out how to remotely login via Xdm...

cheers.
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once I had the license some years ago.. I replaced the car with a bike as my main transportation thing... I own a Kawasaki z-750 now .. but pointing at getting a 636 sportbike soon (or a Gsxr).

not easy to carry Sgi machines with bike.. but.. ther's always rent-a-car choice :)

cheers.
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foetz wrote: thanks.
any hint how to download it?



http://googlevideodownload.com/
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Hi,
I'm also looking for same cable since I got the Presenter O2 card a year ago .... if anyone have one spare or knows where to buy one.. I'd appreciate a link.

thanks in advance.

cheers.
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I usually run shake with "-gui 1" argument .... it loads shake with the tremor interface which i find really much better for 16:9 or 2k format..

thanks for the others tricks.. i'll try 'em on shake 4 later on my linux box.

cheers.
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just a boon question ... where do i set those environments :roll:

hm... at command line like i was using -gui 1 ... so -gui 1 -hardware 1 maybe?...
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as a father of two SGI-addicted little dudes..... i can prodly say ...

C O N G R A T S Dexter and Fem ... u're life will now be something you wont believe :) ... enjoy this great moment


cheers.
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DraconianTimes wrote: Many congratulations!

Some tips for fatherhood here ... :lol:

Nick



LOOOOL
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