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I have seen a beautiful DAT, called "IBM 7208-342" it's a 20/40GB 8mm :D :D :D
unfortunately the owner is located in USA, so the shipping makes it as no good deal
I wish I could enter into the vegetable garden of William Gibson , on the right of a director, to decide how a film is ultimately released for public viewing, but I am not a nor Cyberpunk writer neither a dude in Hollywood , and my English still looks like an old rusty trailer which needs a fix-up, so my personal wonderland begins with a pill ... tumbling down the rabbit hole , where the sky above the router port is the color of television, tuned to a dead channel and some gears still need a debugger there.
I have to buy 4 sATA hard drives, they have to be used within a RAID rack, which vendor and model do you suggest ?
the rack accepts is sATA2 and only hardrives under 1Tera, I was thinking to buy things sized like 250,320,500 Gbyte

thank you in advance :D
I wish I could enter into the vegetable garden of William Gibson , on the right of a director, to decide how a film is ultimately released for public viewing, but I am not a nor Cyberpunk writer neither a dude in Hollywood , and my * flawless English * still looks like an old rusty trailer which needs a fix-up, so my personal wonderland begins with a pill ... tumbling down the rabbit hole , where the sky above the router port is the color of television, tuned to a dead channel and some gears still need a debugger there.
thank you :D

If you had to choose between Hitachi and Seagate , whom would you choose and why?


here I am going to experiment with Soho/SR5 (rack version, job purpose), attached to IP30 over a dual VHDCI-HD68 (LVD) Cables

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QL12160                   _______
scsi wide lvd          |   HD0 |
+---------ch1 -------|   HD1 |
+---------ch2 -------|   HD2 |
|   HD3 |
|_______|
Octane                  Soho/SR5



it is a big box and it needs a fine setup and I have to buy qty=4 sATA hard drives
then the RaidBox will handle them as "logical volumes"

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+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Bus  SCSI ID  LUN   UDV name
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
|   1        1    0     udvmy1, HD0,HD1, mirroring
|   2        1    0     udvmy2, HD2,HD3, mirroring


and IP30 will see something like this :D

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Integral SCSI controller 2: Version QL12160, low voltage differential
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 2
Integral SCSI controller 3: Version QL12160, low voltage differential
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 3



good lectures from this && this doc :D

The Soho/SR5 RAIDBox also provides S.A.F.T.E. (mine is disabled)
which stands for S CSI A ccessed F ault- T olerant E nclosure (abbreviated SAF-TE )
I wish I could enter into the vegetable garden of William Gibson , on the right of a director, to decide how a film is ultimately released for public viewing, but I am not a nor Cyberpunk writer neither a dude in Hollywood , and my * flawless English * still looks like an old rusty trailer which needs a fix-up, so my personal wonderland begins with a pill ... tumbling down the rabbit hole , where the sky above the router port is the color of television, tuned to a dead channel and some gears still need a debugger there.
Sean4000 wrote: Hey guys, I'm looking for an older ATX case from sun, sgi, oracle, hp, compaq, etc. Something really retro/relic


it's not what you have asked, but these guys are called Drako , they are located in Milan (north of Italy), and they have a lot of modern staff for gaming purpose (including water cooling)

sometimes I work with them :D :D :D

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isn't more beautiful and comfortable than every mod ever ?

e.g.
Drako Gaming Rig Odahviing V2, which comes with case Corsair Air 540, i5-4690K, GeForce GTX 970, Intel Z97
I wish I could enter into the vegetable garden of William Gibson , on the right of a director, to decide how a film is ultimately released for public viewing, but I am not a nor Cyberpunk writer neither a dude in Hollywood , and my * flawless English * still looks like an old rusty trailer which needs a fix-up, so my personal wonderland begins with a pill ... tumbling down the rabbit hole , where the sky above the router port is the color of television, tuned to a dead channel and some gears still need a debugger there.
Welcome to the Future, The Quantum Computing Era Has Begun


… Every so often there is a chance to make a difference.
To undertake a project, which against all odds,
makes a technology of the future an achievement of today

Capabilities & Optimization
  • Machine Learning
  • Pattern Recognition and Anomaly Detection
  • Financial Analysis
  • Software/Hardware Verification and Validation
  • blablabla ...
  • Automated Defense Network, processing information at ninety teraflops
  • Highly advanced artificial intelligence able to become self-aware
  • Manufacturing battle units in vast automated factories more efficiently


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Trust Skynet, Robots replacing soldiers will make everybody safer

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The first useful application of this new technology!
have fun
Jack Luminous wrote: Last week, I put an additional V10 in my Octane2


where did you found the dual-carrier ? and how much it was ?
I wish I could enter into the vegetable garden of William Gibson , on the right of a director, to decide how a film is ultimately released for public viewing, but I am not a nor Cyberpunk writer neither a dude in Hollywood , and my * flawless English * still looks like an old rusty trailer which needs a fix-up, so my personal wonderland begins with a pill ... tumbling down the rabbit hole , where the sky above the router port is the color of television, tuned to a dead channel and some gears still need a debugger there.
in case, I have a V6 gfx for sale, 50 euro + shipping
I wish I could enter into the vegetable garden of William Gibson , on the right of a director, to decide how a film is ultimately released for public viewing, but I am not a nor Cyberpunk writer neither a dude in Hollywood , and my * flawless English * still looks like an old rusty trailer which needs a fix-up, so my personal wonderland begins with a pill ... tumbling down the rabbit hole , where the sky above the router port is the color of television, tuned to a dead channel and some gears still need a debugger there.
I wonder what, in the Irix stuff, one has to run on a Onyx2 of 700 watt: Ansys, Maya ? :D
oh, and I also wonder how the CD-drive in the picture can work when its feets are standing up vertically :shock: :shock: :shock:
I wish I could enter into the vegetable garden of William Gibson , on the right of a director, to decide how a film is ultimately released for public viewing, but I am not a nor Cyberpunk writer neither a dude in Hollywood , and my * flawless English * still looks like an old rusty trailer which needs a fix-up, so my personal wonderland begins with a pill ... tumbling down the rabbit hole , where the sky above the router port is the color of television, tuned to a dead channel and some gears still need a debugger there.
in my opinion: do not underestimate the compression connector and its catch mechanism :D
in my experience (with MENET ): the wrong catch mechanism did the difference between " properly working " and " not properly working "
I wish I could enter into the vegetable garden of William Gibson , on the right of a director, to decide how a film is ultimately released for public viewing, but I am not a nor Cyberpunk writer neither a dude in Hollywood , and my * flawless English * still looks like an old rusty trailer which needs a fix-up, so my personal wonderland begins with a pill ... tumbling down the rabbit hole , where the sky above the router port is the color of television, tuned to a dead channel and some gears still need a debugger there.
help me to understand what is arch-specific
going to leave, have a nice day, hope to see you again soon!
Something does the difference as I got a strange errors moving things (1) from IP32 to IP28.

(1) things proved to be working on IP32 do not work not on IP28, this, even if I did a copy preserving file's properties.
(
machine1 : tar -cf app.tar patch, scp app.tar machine2_IP:
machine2 : tar -xf app.tar
)

sorry, I do not have these machines on hand now, I am almost 250Km far from them now
so reporting (again) all the error-messages I got will take time (and I am not sure if I am allowed to post them here)
going to leave, have a nice day, hope to see you again soon!
vishnu wrote: Adobe Premier


yes, it happened to a friend of mine because he inserted the hard drive in the wrong octane machine. He owns two machine, one is equipped with VPRO, the other with MGRAS, he wanted to clean both of them, so he removed the hard drives, and a long "oppppsssss" followed when he switched on :D

I wonder about things made by Alias Wavefront, e.g. StudioSurface.
going to leave, have a nice day, hope to see you again soon!
OK, understood, thank you, guys :D
going to leave, have a nice day, hope to see you again soon!
ops, I had forget, I mean I had already used that option with no appreciable changes
going to leave, have a nice day, hope to see you again soon!
my SCSI PlexWriter doesn't have them, and when it stands vertically the CD flips down :D
hey oh? Swimming pool & Racing bicycle.
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IBM Power PC xSeries Remote Supervisor Adapter II Module PCI 66MHz
  • Manufacturer: IBM
  • FRU/P/N: 73P9265
  • Ports: USB, RJ-45, VGA, 56-watt AC Power Adapter

Features:
  • Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP)
  • Improved keyboard and mouse support
  • Remote firmware update and access to critical server settings
  • Graphical console redirection with accelerated graphics
  • Remote Drive Support

Wikipedia has more informations about

Someone has experienced with this module :D ?

I'd like to know how it works in details, low level details, e.g. what does it do on PCI, and if it can stand alone
I wish I could enter into the vegetable garden of William Gibson , on the right of a director, to decide how a film is ultimately released for public viewing, but I am not a nor Cyberpunk writer neither a dude in Hollywood , and my English still looks like an old rusty trailer which needs a fix-up, so my personal wonderland begins with a pill ... tumbling down the rabbit hole , where the sky above the router port is the color of television, tuned to a dead channel and some gears still need a debugger there.
vishnu wrote: Some crazy ass crackers are saying Linus did it deliberately because he hates Nvidia, and, by extension, any Linux users who use Nvidia products


the Science says it's - suffer the opposite - xfile :D
refers to the punishment of souls in Dante's Inferno, by a process either resembling or contrasting with the sin itself.
What the robot Hell, so we have the scientific proof that looooooniiiiixxxxxxx put your feet in Purgatorio :lol: :lol: :lol: :


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I am polishing and hacking this marvelous british 68k-board (made in 1986)
I wish I could enter into the vegetable garden of William Gibson , on the right of a director, to decide how a film is ultimately released for public viewing, but I am not a nor Cyberpunk writer neither a dude in Hollywood , and my * flawless English * still looks like an old rusty trailer which needs a fix-up, so my personal wonderland begins with a pill ... tumbling down the rabbit hole , where the sky above the router port is the color of television, tuned to a dead channel and some gears still need a debugger there.
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GaGa dressed like a she-pirate, don't ask why she figures like a blonde
I want to tease her hair style, && what if I make my hairstyle like Skrillex, my love ?

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because she happens to teach me how should I dance
and she doesn't know that nobody can rock like robots


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she said something like the above about Skrillex's hairstyle (OMGaga)

since that I love to put things made by { Daft Punk, Deadmau5, Skrillex, kraftwerk }
on my gemini-mixer, since the last time I did, I have been designing a few funny covers
to be uploaded on iPod nano (there is no why? just because I wand to express my humor)
I wish I could enter into the vegetable garden of William Gibson , on the right of a director, to decide how a film is ultimately released for public viewing, but I am not a nor Cyberpunk writer neither a dude in Hollywood , and my * flawless English * still looks like an old rusty trailer which needs a fix-up, so my personal wonderland begins with a pill ... tumbling down the rabbit hole , where the sky above the router port is the color of television, tuned to a dead channel and some gears still need a debugger there.
  • LIBRETTO 20, AMD 486 DX4 75 MHz, 8 MB RAM, 270 MB, TFT, 6.1" 210 x 115 x 34
  • LIBRETTO 30, AMD 486 DX4 100 MHz, 8 MB RAM, 500 MB, TFT, 6.1", 210 x 115 x 34
  • LIBRETTO 50, Intel Pentium 75 MHz, 16 MB RAM, 810 MB, TFT, 6.1", 210 x 115 x 34
  • LIBRETTO 60, Intel Pentium 100 MHz, 16 MB RAM, 810 MB, TFT da 6.1", 210 x 115 x 34
  • LIBRETTO 70, Intel Pentium 120 MHz MMX, 16 MB RAM, 1.6 GB, TFT, 6.1", 210 x 115 x 34
  • LIBRETTO 1000SS, Intel Pentium 166 MHz MMX, 32 MB RAM, 2.1 GB, TFT, 6.1", 215 x 125 x 24.5
good dogs

  • LIBRETTO 100, Intel Pentium 166 MHz MMX, 32 MB RAM, 2.1 GB, TFT, 7.1", 210 x 132 x 34
  • LIBRETTO 110, Intel Pentium 233 MHz MMX, 32 MB RAM, 4.3 GB, TFT, 7.1", 210 x 132 x 34
bad dogs

looking for a good dog, planning a mad experiment
but I need the keyboard with { UK, US } layout :D
I wish I could enter into the vegetable garden of William Gibson , on the right of a director, to decide how a film is ultimately released for public viewing, but I am not a nor Cyberpunk writer neither a dude in Hollywood , and my English still looks like an old rusty trailer which needs a fix-up, so my personal wonderland begins with a pill ... tumbling down the rabbit hole , where the sky above the router port is the color of television, tuned to a dead channel and some gears still need a debugger there.
yes, it's a delicious little laptop, and its size looks perfect for my mad project :D

I'd like to recycle its chassis for my fpga project which already comes with a 6.1 inc LCD (1 bit of color, green)
I am able to
- reverse the keyboard into its matrix map
- devlop a controller
- attach it to my MIPS1 soft core (R2K without cache, TLB, etc)

all of these inside a spartan6 which already comes with a DRAM chip of 64Mbyte, 8Mbyte of NVRAM, and a CS8900 chip (10Mbps)

the final project will look like a dumb-terminal (e.g. VT100), but
- portable
- made in fpga
- laptop shape
- powered by battery


and it will be the most beautiful object all over the world :D :D :D


p.s.
the VDU (video display unit, text based) part is recycled from the woody box :lol:
I wish I could enter into the vegetable garden of William Gibson , on the right of a director, to decide how a film is ultimately released for public viewing, but I am not a nor Cyberpunk writer neither a dude in Hollywood , and my English still looks like an old rusty trailer which needs a fix-up, so my personal wonderland begins with a pill ... tumbling down the rabbit hole , where the sky above the router port is the color of television, tuned to a dead channel and some gears still need a debugger there.
nekonoko wrote:
deBug wrote: But are you saying I can use it as a network card as well ???


Apparently so - here's a quote from the manual:

/etc/hosts

This is the file used for configuring NetFX Fibre Channel ports as IP interfaces. Each
local Fibre Channel port that we wish to use as an IP interface must have an entry in
/etc/hosts. The IP interface name must match the port's npname in /etc/NLPorts. Each
remote IP port can be defined either in /etc/hosts or by using a name service protocol such
as NIS or DNS. However, keep in mind that the name in the NIS or DNS maps must still
match the entry for that remote port in /etc/NLPorts.


BTW, you can download the PDFs here:

http://futuretech.blinkenlights.nl/prisa/

I have the drivers on my FTP if you don't already have them.


Ethernet over fiber: is that possible ? someone has tried with success ?
I was asked to swap a few development boards for a pair (qty=2) of QLogic QLA 2342
they are PCI/64 2Gbps@133Mhz Fibre Channel cards, I sill need to find cables :D
hey oh? Swimming pool & Racing bicycle.
on Ebay I found a few of these board for 20..30 euro each

Ironically Cerberus is developed around 405GP cores (there are 4 nodes, each node is 405GP), and with a similar idea, even if the "Remote Supervisor" feature is implemented by a little && stand alone linux MIPS board :D

I am impressed by IBM
I wish I could enter into the vegetable garden of William Gibson , on the right of a director, to decide how a film is ultimately released for public viewing, but I am not a nor Cyberpunk writer neither a dude in Hollywood , and my English still looks like an old rusty trailer which needs a fix-up, so my personal wonderland begins with a pill ... tumbling down the rabbit hole , where the sky above the router port is the color of television, tuned to a dead channel and some gears still need a debugger there.
I haven't understood: can ATM use CAT5 cables ?
hey oh? Swimming pool & Racing bicycle.
jan-jaap wrote: It's possible to run TCP/IP over transport layers other than ethernet (Firewire comes to mind), but the software stack has to implement this. TCP/IP over FC is not possible with the QLogic FC adapters, at least not with IRIX.



here I had (then I sold) two Firewire 400 board and I did a pretty experiment with them:
I connected two machines over a firewire cable and I got a firewire lan just forcing the linux kernel to put TCP/IP over them
I'd like to do something similar with FC, just because they are faster :D

ok, not with IRIX, I guess

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

about ATM, I happen to have two Efficient network ATM NICs 25Mbps
I'd like to set up a small network between two machines for testing purposes
under Octane, they are PCI-cards

they come with rj45 connector (which is the same used by Ethernet, just with different wiring)
can anyone clue me in as to the cable pinout? I have an ethernet crimper
I have no idea of which way to order the wires
hey oh? Swimming pool & Racing bicycle.
it's a brand new box, I have all the parts, even if not mounted
hey oh? Swimming pool & Racing bicycle.
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I happen to have this lot for sale

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uploaded photos to another service
have fun
it seems we can't reprogram DS1981U chips, they are read-only
I do not know the "1wire-standard", I am reading documentation from Maxim-IC
I'd like to emulated DS1981U chips by an external circuit (1 wire interface + CPLD)
in this case I will be able to have a reprogrammable device

has someone already tried that ?

1wire-overview (video)
bye.
miod wrote: Of course. That's the whole point of these chips


yes, I can reprogram the serial EEPROM 93c256C and 24C256 (already done with success), but I can't reprogram DS1981U
they are both used to assign a MAC-address in our UNIX workstations (including a few SGI models)

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based on i2c serial EEPROM 24C04, I have replaced with 24C512

this is my equipment, kindly provided by my university lab, and used for homeworks
these keys are obsolete, they were commonly used as credit to pay coffee cups
in my case we wanted to use these keys to read a passphrase over a magnetic interface
so, I built a copy of the key, and a copy of the magnetic reader/writer
and a copy of the hardware interface to manually read/write

the new generation goes under crypt engine, and we also got a study
how to make coffee key safer
bye.
robespierre wrote: I remember that every iButton has a 128-bit serial number permanently burned in


yes, so, as we can't reprogram these chips, my idea is to emulate them by a CPLD (or by a little MPU, AVR8 tiny ?)
I need to "adapt" the digital interface to 1wire.
bye.
hi guys
who is experienced with this software ?
I'd like to hear a feed feedbacks :D
bye. I am not a warez guy. respect.
I can sell the whole lot for 86 euro including shipping within Europe
(it's 4.5Kg)
have fun
02 nov 2015, UC Berkeley Computer Science Professor, Professor, David Patterson (click to watch his video conference) reviews 50 years of computer architecture to show there is now widespread agreement on instruction set architecture ISA. Unlike most other fields, despite this harmony there is no open alternative to proprietary offerings from ARM and Intel. In his talk he proposes RISC-V RISC Five, which targets Systems on a Chip SoC.


and they seem to be ready (to fail? like OpenRisc?) :shock: :shock: :shock:

I'm impressed with the instruction set, but it is actually a real working core
not like one of a few thousands MIPS clones (R2K, R3K, MIPS32) made by students and beginner FPGA designers.
so, no doubts it is definitively brilliant .. if you are in academia

the question is: pretty limited to academia, or, in all seriousness though, does it have a great potential in business ?

currently, supported by gcc and llvm/clang, it's available as
  • simulator~qemu , it comes free, open source, it just takes effort to configure and compile a few things
  • arm+fpga board , the hardware side is expensive, the software side is free but takes more effort to configure and compile things

still no ASIC chips (not confirmed news (2)), while in choice2, the arm core initializes things, load the bitstream, bootstrap the soft core, then it provides a sort of I/O virtualization, so I guess that all of this means: good only for academia, for people who want to experiment

e.g. called boom , here it is an Out-Of-Order(1) RISC-V variant
RISC-V has a number of features that make an OOO(1) machine more manageable to implement.
(and I wonder if it will teach the Tomasulo Algorithm , let's check it :D )


but, India is already interested and may have taped out one in one of their universities.
and, someone says that, as soon as we see it taped out commercially in China we might see a serious contender to ARM.

and it Looks like it has already been taped out ( really ?) :shock: :shock: :shock:

They say they can ship to academia packs of 100 for an incredibly low price of 30000 USD ((2)not confirmed)
while India has officially adopted the ISA, and NPTEL is spending 80 millions on it
( o'my ducks :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: )
I wish I could enter into the vegetable garden of William Gibson , on the right of a director, to decide how a film is ultimately released for public viewing, but I am not a nor Cyberpunk writer neither a dude in Hollywood , and my English still looks like an old rusty trailer which needs a fix-up, so my personal wonderland begins with a pill ... tumbling down the rabbit hole , where the sky above the router port is the color of television, tuned to a dead channel and some gears still need a debugger there.
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and she gets her feet, well, not 100% completed, as, I still have to attach them to the chassis
but Alice can say "progress" :D :D :D
Some prowling the streets, looking for sweets from their Candyman , I'm Looking for a new fun with IP30/Octane2
IP30 purposes : linux (kernel development), Irix Scientific Apps { Ansys, Catia, Pro/E, FiberSIM, AutoDYNþ, ... }
Other Projects : { Cerberus , Woody Box , 68K-board, SWI_DBG }, discontinued Console hacks { GB, GBA, PSX1 }
Wanted Equipments : { U1732C LCR meter by Keysight } ~ ~ I am still Learning English, be patient with me ~ ~
about me , there are just a few things to know: I am exuberant , and I love the urban dictionary : is it a problem ?!?
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and got my book :D :D :D :D :D
Some prowling the streets, looking for sweets from their Candyman , I'm Looking for a new fun with IP30/Octane2
IP30 purposes : linux (kernel development), Irix Scientific Apps { Ansys, Catia, Pro/E, FiberSIM, AutoDYNþ, ... }
Other Projects : { Cerberus , Woody Box , 68K-board, SWI_DBG }, discontinued Console hacks { GB, GBA, PSX1 }
Wanted Equipments : { U1732C LCR meter by Keysight } ~ ~ I am still Learning English, be patient with me ~ ~
about me , there are just a few things to know: I am exuberant , and I love the urban dictionary : is it a problem ?!?
I wish I could enter into the vegetable garden of William Gibson , on the right of a director, to decide how a film is ultimately released for public viewing, but I am not a nor Cyberpunk writer neither a dude in Hollywood , and my English still looks like an old rusty trailer which needs a fix-up, so my personal wonderland begins with a pill ... tumbling down the rabbit hole , where the sky above the router port is the color of television, tuned to a dead channel and some gears still need a debugger there.
University of Pennsylvania Lab, Vijay Kumar and his team have created autonomous aerial robots inspired by honeybees. Their latest breakthrough: Precision Farming, in which swarms of robots map, reconstruct and analyze every plant and piece of fruit in an orchard, providing vital information to farmers that can help improve yields and make water management smarter.
have fun
thank you :D
I wish I could enter into the vegetable garden of William Gibson , on the right of a director, to decide how a film is ultimately released for public viewing, but I am not a nor Cyberpunk writer neither a dude in Hollywood , and my English still looks like an old rusty trailer which needs a fix-up, so my personal wonderland begins with a pill ... tumbling down the rabbit hole , where the sky above the router port is the color of television, tuned to a dead channel and some gears still need a debugger there.
RISC rides again: New RISC-V architecture hopes to battle ARM and x86 by being totally open source
August 21, 2014

One of the pioneers of the original RISC instruction set has returned to the design table with a goal that’s nothing short of massive. David Patterson wants to reinvent computing with a completely open ISA, and he’s hoping that the time is right to finally blow the doors off the CPU industry — this time, by advocating for the adoption of the completely open ISA, RISC-V.

There are already a variety of open ISAs, but Patterson is hoping RISC-V will spark interest and uptake where other projects have sputtered. It’s hard to argue with the man’s credentials — he’s one of the original inventors of the RISC concept — but some of his critiques of the problems he wants RISC-V to solve ring truer than others.

Why RISC it? (sorry)
According to the whitepaper published by UC Berkeley, there are multiple reasons to opt for a RISC-V design, including restrictive IP agreements from companies like ARM and IBM, limited options for free licensing, and the length of time it takes to create a license. The paper also argues that RISC-V is supposedly superior to other ISAs because it’s learned from their various mistakes and incorporates a better mix of capabilities.

RISC V

RISC-V is designed for ultra-compact code sizes, allows for quadruple precision (128-bit floating point values) and can allow for 128-bit memory addressing — though it’s utterly impractical to think this will be needed in the short term. The whitepaper points out, however, that address size limitations is one mistake an ISA makes that’s hard to recover from — RISC-V’s 128-bit limit should serve us for the next 40-50 years.

It’s not clear, however, how much momentum actually exists around the standard. The whitepaper points to eight chip designs — a prototype RISC-V chip is pictured at the top of the story — Berkeley has already implemented, and claims that a RISC-V core is substantially more efficient than even a competitive ARM core, as shown below:

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RISC V

The problem with RISC-V is that the target markets — small companies looking for extreme customization — simply may not be big enough to ever spark much in the way of toolset development, familiarity, or cost savings. How many companies both want to build their own extremely customized architecture and can afford to hire the engineers that would do the job more ably that a default Cortex-A5 CPU from ARM? Our guess is not many. This leaves RISC-V in an uneasy no-man’s land — the engineers with the expertise to build the products are most likely familiar with other ecosystems, while the companies that would most benefit from the cost savings and customized features can’t afford the engineers.

Reigniting the great debate: CISC vs. RISC

Sun UltraSparc chip. Back in the olden days, there were a lot of RISC chips. With the success of Intel and x86, though, most of the RISC designs were squeezed out.
Furthermore, while the whitepaper leans on the idea of ARM as a RISC design that’s (supposedly) vastly more successful than Intel based on total number of CPUs shipped, that comparison is flawed for a number of reasons. I don’t want to rehash the CPU wars of the past decades in this story, but it’s worth revisiting the old paradigms of CISC and RISC that applied when Patterson did his first groundbreaking work in RISC. The CISC designs of the 1960s and 1970s often emphasized doing as much work as possible per instruction. Memory was both incredibly slow and very small — the more work you could pack into every single cycle, the less assembly code you had to write, the more compact your code could be, and the higher the throughput of the system (at least in theory). Some CPUs could support high-level programming features directly in machine code.

The original RISC philosophy argued that by doing less work per cycle, developers could drastically simplify their designs, cut the complicated number of corner cases and operations they supported, increase CPU clock speed, and reap enormous rewards with smaller designs and far smaller transistor budgets. In the beginning, there were enormous differences of scale that fed RISC’s advance, and while RISC-based architectures never made huge inroads into the PC business, they were extremely successful in servers and embedded product lines.

Read our featured story: 4004 to Sandy Bridge: A walk down CPU memory lane

As time passed, however, the line between CISC and RISC began to blur. CISC chips became more RISC-like, while RISC chips ramped up complexity, capabilities, and die size. A good example of this trend is the entire ARM vs. x86 debate. While the two ISAs are absolutely different, research has repeatedly shown that power consumption, clock speed, performance per watt, and instructions executed per clock cycle (a measure of efficiency) are all dependent on the CPU’s physical architecture — not its actual ISA.

If there’s a reason to be optimistic, however, it’s this: For decades, both CISC and RISC designs were mostly driven by brute-force approaches. When the number of transistors is doubling every 18-24 months with commensurate decreases in power consumption, it’s easy to solve problems by throwing transistors at the problem.

We’ve long since hit the point of diminishing marginal returns from that approach — and that means RISC-V’s brand-new ISA with its

The RISC-I chip, developed by UC Berkeley. 44,420 transistors, 5-micron (5,000nm) process, running at 1MHz
A die shot of the RISC-I chip, developed by UC Berkeley. 44,420 transistors, 5-micron (5,000nm) process, running at 1MHz
emphasis on efficiency and performance per watt could be an approach that yields dividends when other, more traditional (and to be honest, simpler) methods of extracting further gains have been exhausted. It’s also noteworthy that the architecture appears to target the lowest end of the ARM Cortex division — areas where, as we’ve recently discussed, the CISC vs. RISC debate actually retains a shred of relevance. In areas where every square millimeter counts and power consumption is absolutely critical, RISC-V might offer advantages.

Whether these gains could be sustained against dominant players in the market like Qualcomm, Intel, and other companies that would be adopting them as well, is an open question. If history is any judge, it takes far more than some basic ISA support and theoretical appeal to seize market share from more dominant, established players — and we’re dubious of openness as an intrinsically important factor, despite the paper’s reliance on it as a prime justification.


analyzing RISC-V's ISA (compared to Epiphany)
I wish I could enter into the vegetable garden of William Gibson , on the right of a director, to decide how a film is ultimately released for public viewing, but I am not a nor Cyberpunk writer neither a dude in Hollywood , and my English still looks like an old rusty trailer which needs a fix-up, so my personal wonderland begins with a pill ... tumbling down the rabbit hole , where the sky above the router port is the color of television, tuned to a dead channel and some gears still need a debugger there.
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Simtec Hydra multiprocessor, 4 CPU cards, labelled { ARM1 .. ARM4 }

I am reading the Risc PC Technical Reference Manual (TRM)
and all the documentation from Simtec (located in Lancashire, North West of England)
they developed a strange kit called " Hydra ", product code AUHYDRA , it comes with 5 CPUSLOT s
it's a sort of multiprocessing kit for RiscPC :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
I wish I could enter into the vegetable garden of William Gibson , on the right of a director, to decide how a film is ultimately released for public viewing, but I am not a nor Cyberpunk writer neither a dude in Hollywood , and my * flawless English * still looks like an old rusty trailer which needs a fix-up, so my personal wonderland begins with a pill ... tumbling down the rabbit hole , where the sky above the router port is the color of television, tuned to a dead channel and some gears still need a debugger there.
uunix wrote: How did you get on chap?


Certain loa display very distinctive behaviour by which they can be recognized, specific phrases, and specific actions.
As soon as a loa is recognized, the symbols appropriate to them will be given to them

Concerning actions, and reactions …
.. it seems that recently we are in troubles with a few Loa spirits of Haitian Vodou and Louisiana Voodoo

one should give cane, straw hat, and pipe to lord Legba, and top hat, sunglasses, and a cigar to lot Samedi
so, once the loa have arrived, fed, been served, and possibly given help or advice, they leave.
Otherwise certain loa can become obstinate, or hostile … and more evil and spiteful than a Poltergeist

May be a coincidence, it happens to me, too, a few hard drives lost with a lot of pain and overdose of blasphemy
which is a backbone for the cause: the more you have no respect for Loa spirits, the more they multitask their anger

so, I bought a few candles, and I am burning incense to show them my respect

I do not believe in them
but I +r.e.s.p.e.c.t+ :D
I wish I could enter into the vegetable garden of William Gibson , on the right of a director, to decide how a film is ultimately released for public viewing, but I am not a nor Cyberpunk writer neither a dude in Hollywood , and my * flawless English * still looks like an old rusty trailer which needs a fix-up, so my personal wonderland begins with a pill ... tumbling down the rabbit hole , where the sky above the router port is the color of television, tuned to a dead channel and some gears still need a debugger there.