hamei wrote:
You guys have to be joking. I'm oldish for nekochan but not by geological terms ... within my lifetime, glaciers disappearing - glaciers that I used to go drink beer on - polar ice disappearing, ocean pH changing, the damned sea lions moving out of San Francisco ... no wars to reduce the population for the past fifty years, medicine keeping too many cripples alive, people turning into fruitcakes ... if you can't see that there's some big trouble ahead then you're in serious denial.
Human civilization,
as we know it
is based on a failed model of unsustainable agriculture and the parasite class that has been nurtured by an easily oppressed immobile victim class. This is not just my opinion, learned folks have
written about agriculture as being "our" greatest mistake
. It is easy to steal and think up clever ways to harm folks when you are not playing hunter/gatherer.
Yes, civilization as we know it has bestowed some amazing gifts upon the populace. These delightful technologies allow a greater aggregation of knowledge over a contracting timeline. The bulk of society uses this data for purposes that are not expanding the understanding of our cosmos in a direct fashion, yet indirectly their continued usage of life extending medical procedures and advanced communication networks for gaming is providing capital or at least a relatively stable base for further expansion of the underlying science. As usual it is the fringes of society that are expanding into the unknown territories of knowledge, not the idiot masses. This has always been the case, the scientist is a rebel venturing into the frontier.
This unsustainable behavior is pushing us toward a cliff (big trouble ahead), while some folks are scrambling to develop wings. Unpredictable disruptive technologies have saved earth from Old Media hyped crisis before, just check out Norman Borlaugh.
hamei wrote:
Here's what makes me think it's over : people seem to have lost their brains somewhere. For thirty years the right-wing in the US has been chanting "get government off the backs of business !" (we can see how well that turned out.) So when this SEC thing comes out,
the same people
moan and whine "Why were these people surfing the web for porn when they were supposed to be protecting us ?" No one says anything about the conflict here ? Or the way a good half the population has been screaming "Drill ! Drill ! Drill ! who cares about the damned caribou / fish / wildlife ?" Now that the Gulf of Mexico is on its way to becoming the LaBrea Tar Pits,
all the same people
are snivelling that "Obama didn't do enough ! Why didn't the government stop these people ?" We're big on "personal responsibility" as long as it's not us who has to be responsible ?
If people want to be right-wingers or left-wingers or believe that Jesus speaks to them through the towel dispenser in the executive bathroom, I don't care. But puh-
lease
, at least stick to the same idiot doctrine you've been spouting for the past twenty years ?
Politics is never the answer, and folks will continue to look to it for answers because it claims to be the great and powerful Oz. When you look behind the curtain you find the old charlatan, devoid of insight or usefulness. The myth is propagated because most folks seem to think the system can made to work for them, when in fact it has and will always work against the bulk of humanity for the benefit of a few, regardless of what policies or campaign rhetoric is spewed forth.
This is true in every situation, dating back to the dawn of agriculturalism and the first kings who had a mandate from some divine demon conjured for purely deceptive purposes. Control is the game that these parasites have been playing since they figured they could get a free meal if they dressed in funny clothes and provided false insight or arbitration.
hamei wrote:
It's as if people couldn't recognize truth if it rose up out of the grunter and bit them in the ass.
I am reminded of H.P. Lovecraft and his biocentrist insights into this matter. How exactly can a maggot crawling on a mud ball possibly know the truth. It is only deluding itself.
hamei wrote:
There is obviously massive operpopulation, overconsumption, overcapacity, serious issues with the world we live on and cannot escape and a disconnect from reality. Yeah, the Maya thing is stupid ... but the impending doom is not. Chanting "Even scientists are human" is ... less than honest with yourself.
Comparing the sum total of humanities grievances with the intoxicant fueled visions of a long dead priest class is not quite honest. 2012 is awfully close and the most alarmist forecasts for humanity turning our mudball into a hell parallel stretch out to around 50 years from now. The bulk of scientists feel that we have a hundred years, at the very least. In that time I hope that humanity becomes a tier 1 civilization, otherwise it will all be for not when a flying mountain in space collides with our planet and provides natures reset.
hamei wrote:
Every single disaster of the past fifty years has been predictable
and predicted
but no one would listen. There's not a chance in hell that people will actually
do
what it's going to take, so there ya go. Fifty bucks says humanity will not make it to the next century.
I'll put the money in escrow
It is politically inexpedient for the right thing to get done, it always has been. The proper choices will not be made until the only option is do or die. Pain is the best teacher and school is in session.
