The collected works of jan-jaap - Page 11

You can program any combination of resolutions, pixel formats (depth) etc. The bottleneck is bandwidth between the RMs and the DG.

The IR Video Format Combiner (ircombine) has a scale showing the bandwidth used.

The bandwidth is *just* not enough for two 1920x1200_60 screens, but it will do twice 1920x1080_60

Additionally, the 6 extra ports on a DG5-8 don't support resolutions as high as the first 2.

For details, refer to the InfiniteReality Video Format Combiner User's Guide .

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Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
I think when I tried (2 years ago?) the screen wouldn't sync below 57 or 58Hz.

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Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
13Hz? I've seen slide shows faster than that :P

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Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
hamei wrote:
Fried little tiny frogs are pretty good, too. Crunchy. Subtle flavoring, reminiscent of a pond, nice grass, and an evening ribbetting the ladies. It helps to be kind of drunk when you eat them.

what, the ladies or the tiny little frogs? :lol: :lol:

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Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
Any CPU since the R4000 can do 64bit arithmetic as long as you use the N32 or 64 ABI.

uint64_t is defined in <inttypes.h> and <sys/types.h>
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
Pulled an Indigo from storage recently, only to find that the Sonneschein SL340 battery I put in many years ago had run out.

Since these batteries cost ~ 13EUR and require soldering I tried something else:
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CR2032 SMD socket, glued to LSI ASIC.

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Finished product.
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
pentium wrote: I find that you can get as many CR2032's as you need from any PeeCee you get your hands on.

Correct. That's where I got the donor cell :)

SAQ wrote: And they come with the holder, which can usually be hacked into place.

The holders from a PC mainboard are through-hole. The ones I have are SMD so they can be glued to any non-conductive surface. They cost ~ 1€, I think it's worth it. I've glued them on top of Dallas chips and even on an Onyx IO4 PCB.

BetXen wrote: I like that and how you revived this nice old Indigo... ;)

Thanks. I think I'll have to revive half my Indigo2's and Indys as well next time I power them up ;)
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
There is no binary compatibility. Kernel object code (and modules) is compiled separately for each IPxx family (IP27, IP35, IP32, ...).

Additionally, IP32 (the O2) uses 32bit pointers, the rest is 64bit.
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
Was in the Apple store the other day and had a look at the Retina display. The first impression is 'unnatural': it is very sharp, yet at the same time you don't see pixels. It's like my brain is wired to 'adjust focus' to the individual pixels and with this display it can't. It is undeniably a work of art.

I have no plans to upgrade from my current MacBook Pro (which is only 1 year old), and I expect that in 1 or 2 years everything except budget laptops will have this type of screen. I suspect that by the time my brain has accepted the retina style displays I will look back at the current LCD screens and wonder how we ever liked that grainy oldskool stuff :lol:

_________________
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
zmttoxics wrote:
the wife to be

Congratulations!

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Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
Titox wrote: DNS can be the problem, but with a bad DNS configuration the root desktop is also broken -I think?-

I think so too. Even the login window takes a long time to show up.
To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
jpstewart wrote: do any of you have similar tales of silly mistakes you've made while repairing hardware?

A couple of years ago I tried to revive an R3000 Indigo with TOD issues. In the IP12 Indigo, the battery isn't soldered into the mainboard, but held in place with a rubber strap. While wrestling the strap to put the new battery in place, I manage to install it with the pins inverted.

This fried some of the circuitry because now the TOD problem was permanent :(

Come to think of it: maybe I wasn't the first to do this, and maybe that's why the R4000 Indigo has the battery soldered into the mainboard ...
To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
miod wrote: I asked Ian Mapleson to part of his last R8000 Indigo2, and he was kind enough to accept. :D

Excellent find. The R8000 is a rare beast, especially a working one.

Some of the many chips that make up an R8000 assembly are cooled with some sort of copper (?) foil. It tends to peel off with age. If you want to keep yours going, better check it's still firmly connected, and use some thermal glue to correct if necessary. IIRC the R8000 is also very sensitive to ESD so take precautions.

robespierre wrote: The Indigo2 cases are all exactly the same pattern, only the color of the plastic is different. Besides teal and purple, there was actually a blue color and all of the R8000 Power Indigo2s I've seen have been blue.

I think you're referring to the Challenge M or the corresponding Vault-M . I own two R8000 Power Indigo2's (and used to have a third), they are all teal green.

There used to be an IP26 PowerChallenge M too. I've never seen an R10000 PowerChallenge M, even though an IP28 IMPACT Indigo2 will work fine without the graphics board.

Some R8000 Power Indigo2's were sold in purple cases, with Extreme graphics (and matching badges). Despite the purple color, they are not IMPACT capable.

robespierre wrote: IP26 is not, however, compatible with Impact graphics (no driver was written).

Even worse. There are two (released) PROM revisions for IP26, and neither recognizes IMPACT graphics so it powers up headless. The earlier PROM revision sometimes (incorrectly) fails the CPU POST , or it takes ages to POST. This happened to me, and considering the fragile nature of the R8000, it isn't funny. If you dig through an old copy of the developer toolbox you'll find the exact explanation. A new PROM fixed that.

I've had some good fun optimizing the ATLAS math library for the R8000. And now I've got three IP21 boards for my deskside Power Challenge too! Vintage number crunching all the way 8-)
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
Henry Dorsett Case wrote:
Quote:
but you should still be getting system controller power and the +48V lights, so look at your OLS module(s).

Yes, that's what should happen. I was able to track the electricity upriver to the wires ending in the internal connectors of the backplane. I checked the diag document but was not able to find the wiring of the connectors - I'm not very good with such things as circuit diagrams :oops: , so if anybody is able to tell me what should arrive at the pins I can track this down. Without this information I think the risk of frying the wiring, the backplane and maybe myself is a little bit too high.
If anybody did a total disassembling of a Power Challenge: Is there another connector between the cables running from the receptacle to the connectors of the OLS?


The power goes like this:

1) power inlet on the back side.
2) breaker switch right next to it must be in the 'ON' position. Sometimes, the lever off the breaker has been broken off, and it isn't obvious anymore that there's a switch at all.

The assembly of power inlet & breaker switch can be easily removed from the system for inspection. This assumes that the black panel has been taken off the backside, of course. This is easy too: grab the plastic at the bottom end and pull firmly.

From the breaker, 220VAC cables go straight to a tiny backplane that the OLS slots into. If you remove the metal panel on the right hand side you can see it:
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The OLS itself has two connectors: 220VAC in, 48VDC out. No switches. The OLS can also be easily removed from the system.

IIRC, there are two LEDs on the OLS: 220VAC OK, and 48VDC OK.

With the breaker in the 'ON' position, 220VAC will go to the OLS and you should hear a fan humming inside it. If you then turn the key on the front panel to the ON position, you will experience the full force of the massive blower in the bottom of the chassis :D After a couple of seconds it should calm down -- a bit at least. Until the ambient temp rises and the system controller revs the blower in order to keep the system from overheating.

Oh, one last thing: the OLS of these systems were recalled at some point because they were a fire hazard . The 'safe' OLS is part# 080-0120-001. The part# is on the OLS. If you're going to have a look anyway, better check that as well.

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Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
guardian452 wrote:
EU doesn't have the double-tap breaker panels like here so good luck with that ;)

Running an Onyx IR off a regular, residential circuit shouldn't cause any problems at all in any EU country. No hacks required. We Europeans don't believe in 110V :mrgreen:

I have two dedicated 16A 220V circuits in my new computer room. Each has their own integrated RCD so they can't take out (part of) the rest of the house. These are 'slow' breakers, so I can push them back in without having to disconnect half a dozen systems first to reduce the switch-on surge. That's a bit more extravagant than the other circuits in the house, but hey 8-) I have a third (220V 16A) circuit for the air conditioning, and the lights are on an existing (fourth) circuit. It's pretty common over here to put anything that consumes 'significant' amounts of electricity on it's own circuit. I think I must have nearly 15 breakers in my panel, not counting RCDs and the primary breaker.

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Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
NCommander wrote:
There was some references through Google that SGI released a 64-bit linker (that generates 64-bit binaries) but beyond that I have no idea where to find it. The file was called ld64x.

It's called 'ldx64':
Code:
janjaap@speedo:~$ ls -l /usr/lib32/cmplrs/ld*
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root sys     12 Apr 12  2011 /usr/lib32/cmplrs/ld32 -> ../../lib/ld
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root sys 707076 Feb  2  2008 /usr/lib32/cmplrs/ld64
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root sys 809360 Feb  2  2008 /usr/lib32/cmplrs/ldx64

janjaap@speedo:~$ file /usr/lib32/cmplrs/ld64
/usr/lib32/cmplrs/ld64: ELF N32 MSB mips-3 dynamic executable MIPS - version 1

janjaap@speedo:~$ file /usr/lib32/cmplrs/ldx64
/usr/lib32/cmplrs/ldx64:        ELF 64-bit MSB mips-3 dynamic executable MIPS - version 1

All part of a default install of compiler_dev_744m.sw.ld

From the release notes :
Quote:
3.2.1 New 64-bit built linker Under certain
circumstances the default linker (because it is
built in the N32 ABI) could run out of virtual
address space and exit with an error: "I/O
Error: Out of Space". To address only those
types of error, MIPSpro 7.4.1m provides an
experimental linker built as a 64-bit binary,
ld64x, which can be invoked as:

%cc -64 -Zl,x t.c

This linker cannot be used in conjunction with
-IPA and is only provided as a workaround when
encountering the above error.

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Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
Henry Dorsett Case wrote:
BTW, no 400V 32A circuits in your house? :D - whats with the big iron coming your way? [/url]

Only tall racks require three phase. That's why I have desksides :) Saves an awful lot of space too, and IMHO a rack doesn't add anything except more of the same. I have one tall rack (my 4D/380VGX) which is rated at 32A @ 220V, but that's excessive because the PSU is around 1700VA. Runs fine on a regular 220V circuit.

Henry Dorsett Case wrote:
Unfortunately the beast is residing in our living room (I have a wonderful family which accepts that I have a room- and electricity consuming hobby. Well, to be honest, my wife tries to accept...) so any attempt after 10 p.m. can be dangerous because it could wake the brood :roll: .


LOL, sounds familiar :)
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I was restoring the system here, it was 'naked' except for the front door which was only there to protect the system from my son and vice versa. If it has lights, buttons *and* daddy is focussed on it, it automatically has irresistible attraction on small kids :lol:
Henry Dorsett Case wrote:
The former owner just told me that the machine only runs for about 5 minutes and then shuts down because of the 3.3V POKB problem. I got the machine for free, so no need to get upset about that. Am I right that it is not feasible to repair a board with a faulty 3.3 V regulator? I have only one IP25 board, one MC3 and one IO4, so I think one of my next postings will be in the "Hardware wanted" forum. Does any of you have some spare boards for a Power Challenge and is willing to sell/trade?

I have spare MC3's and probably an IO4, but I'm pretty sure neither of them have 3.3V regulators on them. I'm afraid the IP25 is the only one ... (and Infinite Reality, but this is not an Onyx). A fault LED should show you which board asserts the POKB line.

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Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
miod wrote:
PymbleSoftware wrote: I think the flying spaghetti monster has already been discussed here...

You might not believe in It, but that's no reason not to use capital letters, blasphemer!

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
FYI: I've tried to de-solder a component from an IO4 once and even with a professional desoldering station is was absolutely not happening. Those PCBs are simply too thick, you will destroy the traces on the top layer before the inside gets warm enough.

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Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
hamei wrote: OS X sucks, okay ? [...] yuppy bullshit. Get over it.

I like it. It "just works" which means I have more time to do relevant things. And stop insulting me :mrgreen:

SAQ wrote: I couldn't believe it when I sat down at the first Mac I'd used running Lion and found out that they decided to hide the scroll bars now. They sell 27" iMacs - there's enough real estate for a scroll bar in there.

They also sell 13" MacBooks. Many more of them than 27" iMacs, in fact . Who needs scroll bars when you've got a touch pad? Positioning the cursor over a tiny area on the screen, clicking & holding when a simple swipe does the same thing?
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
Martin Steen wrote: OMG I started a flamewar!

typical ...
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Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
Nope, that's a (full) router for an Origin2K/Onyx2

Anyway, try to remove the dead power brick from the PCB first before you start dreaming of sourcing a replacement part. Like I said, I tried and failed.

I don't expect anything from an SMD reworking station. You'll have to look for a small torch :twisted:
*Maybe* it works with a butane powered soldering iron? I had a roommate in college who had one of those things...

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Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
astouffer wrote:
Ever try a heat gun?

Not on an IO4.

I wasn't desperate, I just had an IO4 with an empty Dallas. I thought it would be easier to remove the Dallas from the board before reworking it with a CR2032. That was a mistake :)

I 'dremeled' the Dallas while it was installed on the IO4 and installed a CR2032 socket somewhere close.

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Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
mopar5150 wrote:
I have seen several power boards on ebay for $150 that may have the same converter.

eBay is full of people hoping to get rich. There's also someone out there offering the guts (including the power boards) of an Onyx for $2K+ / board. Guess what -- it's been there for more than a year and it's not selling. I bought a spare 303 board for 30 bucks about a month ago.

I have an Onyx IR (freebie) with a quad R10K board (100 bucks?). My Challenge has three IP25's (the sought after quad R10K, 2MB L2 variety) and I'm sure I paid less than $100 each for those as well. That's the entire CPU board, in working condition and not a DIY cross-your-fingers project.

Oh, and IP25 boards are *heavy*. In other words: transatlantic shipping is going to cost you.

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Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
tesla wrote: Ooooh, I see that Crimson flashing at me.......then I realize that there's a crapload of water between our countries. :cry:

You'll need a boat anyway because it's everything or nothing :mrgreen:
To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
pentium wrote: The undisclosed situation here has further gone sour. :(

Life can be a bitch sometimes. Hope things work out for you.
To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
Nice photo!

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Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
edikat wrote:
Is this the "ULTIMATE" VAX???

The ultimate VAX chassis maybe, but all the boards are gone ....

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Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
My Digital PWS433 and an AXPpci33 based system in a PC case went to Ireland. IIRC, it was close to the weight limit of what you can ship with the regular mail (30kg).

I don't remember the shipping cost, but it wasn't cheap.

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Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
mapesdhs wrote: I get 2.3MB/sec, which is basically maxing out my 20Mbit Virgin Media link.

I get 7.48MB/s -- which leaves ~ 25% of my 100/100 FTTH unused ;)

I think they offer speeds up to 500Mbit here. I should ask my provider if they support jumbo frames :mrgreen:
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
mapesdhs wrote: Virgin offer up to 100Mbit atm. You can have 500? Blimey...

Fiber to the home. It's a symmetrical line so my upload speed is also 100Mb/s. Try that with ADSL :D

Started out as 50/50Mbit, got a freebie upgrade to 100/100. I can get higher speeds but I don't think I'd notice the difference. IIRC they've started experiments with gigabit in some cities this year.
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PymbleSoftware wrote:
enter "4" at the menu where you pressed "1" to boot the system to enter the command monito

"5"

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First of all, thanks for scanning these old magazines. Great stuff.

At the bottom of Gerhard Lenerz's page on the PowerSeries , there's a couple from scans from what appears to be Performer magazine.
I have a special interest in this issue, because I have the actual system described here in my collection...

Do you have this issue of Performer magazine too?
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

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Well, I can only guess, but:

* This particular system has 33MHz IP7 boards. Support for 33MHz boards was introduced in IRIX 3.3, around 06/1990
* IIRC you need at least IP7 PROM rev 009 for 8-way systems like the 4D/380. This dates to 08/1990

This being the first one (in Germany, at least), I guess my 4D/380 dates to late 1990 / early 1991.
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

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This is NetApp a SAN filer and not a JBOD or an FC RAID shelf, right?

First of all, SAN servers are usually heavily optimized for IOPs and not streaming speed.

I have an IBM TotalStorage DS4300. It's a rebadged LSI unit also sold as the SGI TP9300. I think I clocked it at ~ 120MB/s streaming speed with 6x 300GB 10K disks, single 2Gb attachment. The deal with the DS4300 is that when the controller cache battery dies, it disables write caching altogether and this has a pretty disastrous effect on performance. These batteries are uncommon, quite expensive, and last only 2 or 3 years, so by now they are usually dead. Fortunately, I can overrule this behavior (and put the entire DS4300 behind a UPS if I care about integrity).

I have an SGI TP9100 as well. It's loaded with a grab bag of old disks, some even 1Gb/s models (Cheetah 73LP). But with some striping I got this:

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tezro 28# diskperf -W -D -n "Scratch All" -t 5 -m 8m -c2g /vol/junk
#---------------------------------------------------------
# Disk Performance Test Results Generated By Diskperf V1.2
#
# Test name     : Scratch All
# Test date     : Wed May 30 23:43:29 2012
# Test machine  : IRIX64 tezro 6.5 07202013 IP35

# Test type     : XFS data subvolume
# Test path     : /vol/junk
# Request sizes : min=16384 max=8388608
# Parameters    : direct=1 time=5 scale=1.000 delay=0.000
# XFS file size : 2147483648 bytes
#---------------------------------------------------------
# req_size  fwd_wt  fwd_rd  bwd_wt  bwd_rd  rnd_wt  rnd_rd
#  (bytes)  (MB/s)  (MB/s)  (MB/s)  (MB/s)  (MB/s)  (MB/s)
#---------------------------------------------------------
16384   53.17   59.62   34.28    3.03   32.44    3.61
32768   85.89   89.44   61.64    6.43   55.09    6.99
65536  117.55  121.65   80.78   13.81   83.84   12.42
131072  166.67  188.38  129.31   24.32  125.20   20.55
262144  191.93  216.40  175.22   38.56  157.68   35.47
524288  291.29  327.95  230.43   61.52  180.57   61.50
1048576  312.74  337.81  154.67  123.96   96.59  114.65
2097152  326.42  366.79  177.17  200.72  169.23  193.71
4194304  342.27  363.44  220.99  266.21  207.55  250.90
8388608  347.64  383.67  267.42  307.71  259.48  311.20

I plan to load the TP9100 with 146GB 15K.4 disks. That should fly :D

Two things I like about the DS4300:

1) It supports IRIX, so failover and mutipathing 'just' works.
2) It's relatively quiet.

My experience with the QL2342 is quite good. It will deliver the expected performance. My experience with the LS driver (SAS/SATA, U320 SCSI and 4Gb FC) is more spotty:
* I use it with a pair of SATA disks in the O350. Performance is limited by the 2 SATA disks (streaming speeds ~ 240MB/s)
* I've used it with dual channel U320 SCSI and a DELL PowerVault 220S loaded two 7-way stripes of 72GB 15K.3 or 15K.4 disks and got disappointing results (200 or 250MB/s). The PowerVault was the U320 model. That was in the Tezro.
* I've got two dual 4Gb FC boards (LSI 7204XP) in the Tezro as well. That's what I used to obtain the TP9100 results above. And it didn't matter whether I attached both channels to a single LS card, or one each.

If I can get 380MB/s from a dual-2Gb attached FC array, and 200-250MB/s from a dual 320MB/s attached SCSI array on the same system there's something fishy going on. We've seen that SATA performs well earlier in this (?) thread. I have the feeling there's not much wrong with FC performance either, but that the U320 SCSI performance of the LS driver or hardware just isn't delivering. For now this is just a feeling, based on my own experience, and posts by Ian and others. I should bench some of this storage with a modern Linux/x64 server as well.
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
Hmm. I referred to your findings while drafting this message but looks like I removed that before posting :roll:
Credit where credit is due :)

Did you ever test the same array with an LS1030 U320 host adapter in a non-IRIX system to find out whether the lack of performance was due to the hardware or the driver support?
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
You don't even need CSS to do this. <TABLE> with a fixed width in pixels, anybody?

Web designers who confuse a web page with DTP should be fired.

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It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
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Use a {PC, Mac, whatever} to download the files and FTP them to the SGI?

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Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

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smj wrote:
kshuff wrote:
Sometimes I can go a week with nothing happening, sometimes its day to day, but its always the same time of morning.

So by analyzing the crash dump or checking your crontabs, or whatever passes for a scheduler for your anti-virus and other overnight jobs on XP, what runs just after 2AM every night?

check the disk defragmenter too.

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Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
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No need to install anything, there's an FTP client (/usr/bsd/ftp), and an FTP server in a default IRIX installation

IIRC an account on the IRIX system must have a password before you can log into the IRIX ftp server (by default there's no root password on a fresh IRIX installation). If you upload files from a Windows PC, don't forget to set 'binary' mode first or otherwise the PC will transfer them as 7bit ASCII and corrupt your files.

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Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)