The collected works of jan-jaap - Page 17

195MHz R10000 Performance Comparison Between O2, Indigo2, Octane, Origin200, Origin2000 and Power Challenge

Hot clocking an Indigo2 is a cool hack but of course not going to win a trophy for best IRIX 6.5 performance. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if a 195MHz R10K in a Power Challenge beats a 250MHz R10K Indigo2 (both running IRIX 6.2), especially if the Challenge has the 2MB L2 chips.

And of course a (deskside) Power Challenge can pack up to 12 of them. And that's quite a beastie, I can tell you . Plus the mechanical sounding, deep humming of that big blower makes it sound like it means serious business 8-)
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
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To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
The SGI MIPSpro compilers support C99 mode compilation only in C, not C++

http://www.sgi.com/products/software/irix/tools/c.html
http://www.sgi.com/products/software/ir ... s/c++.html

Try to include <stdint.h> from C++ code -- it won't work.
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
So round() is C99 only, and defined in <internal/math_core.h>, pulled in by <math.h> :

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#if defined(__c99)
#if defined(__c99)
extern double      round(double);
extern float       roundf(float);
extern long double roundl(long double);

#pragma optional   round
#pragma optional   roundf
#pragma optional   roundl
#endif /* __c99 */


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#include <stdio.h>
#include <math.h>

int main(void)
{
double d1, d2 = 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209;
d1 = round(d2);

printf("round(PI) = %g\n", d1);
return 0;
}


C99 means MIPSpro 7.4:

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janjaap@speedo:~$ cc -version
MIPSpro Compilers: Version 7.4.4m

janjaap@speedo:~$ cc -fullwarn -c foo.c
cc-1196 cc: REMARK File = foo.c, Line = 11
The indicated function is declared implicitly.

d1 = round(d2);
^

janjaap@speedo:~$ cc -c99 -fullwarn -c foo.c

So far so good, right? But round() is resolved by libm.so regardless, so you might as well declare it external as long as you know you'll be running a reasonably recent IRIX 6.5.x (probably 6.5.18+):

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#ifdef __cplusplus
extern "C" double round(double);
#endif

... and now it compiles and links in C++ as well :)

Alternatively, this snippet should do the same (round x to the nearest integer, but round halfway cases away from zero):

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#include <math.h>
double round_c99(double x)
{
return (x >= 0.0) ? floor(x + 0.5) : ceil(x - 0.5);
}


That should even work on IRIX 5.3 :)
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
The D9 stone is the cube shaped metal box, right? Those go back to the 1st generations of 10K disks etc, and they ran *hot*. Put a dozen together in a shoebox and you need a lot of airflow.

Modern disks run much cooler, so you can reduce cooling as well. I have one of these which was modded with an ATX PSU -- probably because the original PSU died. Then the ATX PSU died as well :(
To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
Oskar45 wrote: Had no idea that China Post operates *internationally*...

I have a mini-DAC en route from China using China Post Registered Airmail as we speak.

How something can be airmail and still take 3 weeks to arrive is a little beyond me, but it was one of those 'free shipping' deals and I'm not in a hurry.
To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
Works for me. IRIX 6.5.30, MIPSpro 7.4.4m

Are you sure you're on 6.5.18+ (or thereabout, when wide characters were introduced?)
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
There was a problem with MIPSpro patches -- if you installed MIPSpro 7.4 and the 7.4.4m overlays in one 'inst' session (or was it the patches to MIPSpro 7.4.4m ??) the a header file would end up corrupted. Not sure anymore which header -- or was it something va_args related? Sorry I'm not more specific ...

When in doubt, maybe reinstall MIPSpro in three sessions, closing 'inst' (swmgr) inbetween?

1. Install base MIPSpro 7.4 from 7.4 discs
2. Install 7.4.4m disc
3. Install post-7.4.4m patches
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
ClassicHasClass wrote: You know what they put on French fries in Holland instead of ketchup? Mayonnaise. I've seen 'em do it, man. They f*ckin' drown 'em in that sh*t.

I recognize the quote, but man you make my mouth water :D
To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
guardian452 wrote: Surprised, I couldn't find orange mayo last time I was over there. :lol:

That must have been around Queensday (now Kingsday), or during a soccer world championship. Then the whole country turns orange :)
To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
Meh, this system is sick :(

The CMOS battery (ST Micro M4T28-BR12SH1) ran out a while ago, and now it doesn't just complain about preposterous time and kernel in the future, it actually forgot it's serial number. The MAC address changed to 12:34:56:78:9a:bc so it was promptly kicked off the network. This also invalidated the FLEXlm licenses installed.

I don't use this Fuel very often, but I still ordered a new CMOS battery for it. Looks like I'll have to borrow the L2 form the O350 to fix this?

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fuel # l1cmd serial all

Data                            Location      Value
------------------------------  ------------  --------
Local System Serial Number      EEPROM        12:34:56:78:9A:BC
Local Brick Serial Number       EEPROM        MED907
Reference Brick Serial Number   NVRAM         MED907


EEPROM      Product Name    Serial         Part Number           Rev  T/W
----------  --------------  -------------  --------------------  ---  ------
NODE        IP34            MED907         030_1707_002          D    00
MAC         MAC ADDRESS     NA             NA                    NA   NA
PIMM        hardware detected, read error
XIO         ASTODYB         MDG840         030_1725_001          D    00

EEPROM     JEDEC-SPD Info           Part Number        Rev  Speed  SGI
---------- ------------------------ ------------------ ---- ------ --------
DIMM 0     CE0000000000000026BAAE00 M3 46L3313BT1-CA0   0B   10.0  N/A
DIMM 2     CE0000000000000026C3AE00 M3 46L3313BT1-CA0   0B   10.0  N/A
DIMM 1     CE0000000000000028C12601 M3 46L3313BT1-CA0   0B   10.0  N/A
DIMM 3     CE00000000000000269CF500 M3 46L3313BT1-CA0   0B   10.0  N/A


The PIMM info in EEPROM seems off as well, although that's maybe caused by the failed MAC read before it? Otherwise it seems to function just fine.
To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
Well, at least on this system I won't have to dremel anything when the battery inevitably runs out. Although this design is probably because of environmental rules that dictate that all batteries must be removable, and had nothing to do with easier service in the long term.

Now, if only they would have used CR2032 cells like everyone else. :roll:
To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
So I replaced the yellow M4T28-BR12SH1 RTC timekeeper backup battery. I reset the time and now it doesn't complain anymore. But my problems are far from over. First of all, I realized this thing has a DALLAS chip as well (DS1742W), plus an ATMEL chip which is assumed to hold the SSN .

So it has not one, but two batteries which can (and probably have) run out :evil:

When the L1 boots, it spits out:

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ALERT: PIMM EEPROM read error, no acknowledge

This may be a 'genuine' failure. The CPU works so I don't really care. A much bigger problem is that the MAC address is still 12:34:56:78:9a:bc

I have the last L1 firmware installed, so serial number security is 'on'. No 'l1cmd serial set xxxxxxx' for me.

I thought of setting it via the L2, but a MAC address is not an acceptable SSN for the L2:

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M2100629-001-L2>serial set 08:00:69:0B:C3:C2
ERROR: invalid system serial number '08:00:69:0B:C3:C2'
System serial number must be [LMNPRTUW]0000000 through [LMNPRTUW]3999999

How am I supposed to format an SSN to result in a valid MAC address? Can a Fuel be hooked up to an L2 at all? It has an L1 USB connector ...

Then I tried

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# l1cmd eeprom Fuel write default
MAC EEPROM already contains valid data

....ehm, RIGHT :(

But anyway, there are two batteries. What if it's not just the yellow battery that ran out, but the DALLAS as well? And the DALLAS is what backs up the L1, while the yellow one is only for the timekeeper? Even if I could change the SSN, it would be gone the first time power is disconnected.

Think I'll leave it disconnected over the weekend to see which functionality it looses -- L1 or RTC. I have the feeling it's going to be the L1 and some DALLAS surgery is due :( I mean, it had been complaining about preposterous times etc etc for a year or so before all of this went belly up.

Which leaves the question: how the hell am I supposed to change the SSN and restore my MAC address??

Battery backed RAM is a bitch :evil:
To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
OK, it seams that
1. The L1 controls the SSN
2. The L1 is backed by a Dallas 1742W and an Atmel 24C04 EEPROM .

But the good news is: despite serial number security, you can change the serial number . Well, for a Fuel, at least.

First the current situation:

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SGI SN1 L1 Controller
Firmware Image B: Rev. 1.48.1, Built 01/22/2007 11:34:20


001a01-L1>serial all

Data                            Location      Value
------------------------------  ------------  --------
Local System Serial Number      EEPROM        12:34:56:78:9A:BC
Local Brick Serial Number       EEPROM        MED907
Reference Brick Serial Number   NVRAM         MED907


EEPROM      Product Name    Serial         Part Number           Rev  T/W
----------  --------------  -------------  --------------------  ---  ------
NODE        IP34            MED907         030_1707_002          D    00
MAC         MAC ADDRESS     NA             NA                    NA   NA
PIMM        IP34PIMM        MDG739         030_1708_002          G    00
XIO         ASTODYB         MDG840         030_1725_001          D    00

EEPROM     JEDEC-SPD Info           Part Number        Rev  Speed  SGI
---------- ------------------------ ------------------ ---- ------ --------
DIMM 0     CE0000000000000026BAAE00 M3 46L3313BT1-CA0   0B   10.0  N/A
DIMM 2     CE0000000000000026C3AE00 M3 46L3313BT1-CA0   0B   10.0  N/A
DIMM 1     CE0000000000000028C12601 M3 46L3313BT1-CA0   0B   10.0  N/A
DIMM 3     CE00000000000000269CF500 M3 46L3313BT1-CA0   0B   10.0  N/A

Continuing:

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001a01-L1>help serial
serial
shows secure system serial numbering information only.
serial verify
test the brick's readiness for secure serial numbering.
serial all
show system and brick part/serial numbers.
serial all v|verbose
show system and brick part/serial numbers with EEPROM indexes
serial dimm
show dimm part/serial numbers.
serial dimm v|verbose
show dimm part/serial numbers with extended data and EEPROM indexes.
serial clear
clear the system serial number.
serial <str> <str> <str> <str>
erases and reassigns system serial number using temporary authenticator.
serial security on
enables system serial number security.

001a01-L1>serial verify
Brick : OK

So the L1 is happy, L1 version is latest and greatest, security is 'ON' and 12:34:56:78:9A:BC is a valid SSN. As far as the L1 is concerned, at least. Me, I'm not too happy with it ;)

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001a01-L1>serial set 0800690BC3C2
system serial number set "0800690BC3C2"
Reboot L1 to take effect.

001a01-L1>reboot_l1
ALERT: PIMM EEPROM read error, no acknowledge

SGI SN1 L1 Controller
Firmware Image B: Rev. 1.48.1, Built 01/22/2007 11:34:20


001a01-L1>serial all

Data                            Location      Value
------------------------------  ------------  --------
Local System Serial Number      EEPROM        08:00:69:0B:C3:C2
Local Brick Serial Number       EEPROM        MED907
Reference Brick Serial Number   NVRAM         MED907


EEPROM      Product Name    Serial         Part Number           Rev  T/W
----------  --------------  -------------  --------------------  ---  ------
NODE        IP34            MED907         030_1707_002          D    00
MAC         MAC ADDRESS     NA             NA                    NA   NA
PIMM        hardware detected, read error
XIO         ASTODYB         MDG840         030_1725_001          D    00

EEPROM     JEDEC-SPD Info           Part Number        Rev  Speed  SGI
---------- ------------------------ ------------------ ---- ------ --------
DIMM 0     CE0000000000000026BAAE00 M3 46L3313BT1-CA0   0B   10.0  N/A
DIMM 2     CE0000000000000026C3AE00 M3 46L3313BT1-CA0   0B   10.0  N/A
DIMM 1     CE0000000000000028C12601 M3 46L3313BT1-CA0   0B   10.0  N/A
DIMM 3     CE00000000000000269CF500 M3 46L3313BT1-CA0   0B   10.0  N/A

001a01-L1>eeprom Fuel write default
MAC EEPROM already contains valid data
001a01-L1>

Serial number has been restored!

I still have to replace the Dallas, because I guess the next time the power is disconnected for more than a couple of seconds it will start acting up again.

I even tried a 'serial clear', something which can cause great pain on O350/Tezro etc, and it did absolutely nothing . I still don't recommend you try, though.

Oh, and the first I2C read to the PIMM seemed to have worked, and later it doesn't. Ah well, I don't think this is related.
To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
Yes, you need the applications disc from the original (6/98) IRIX 6.5 release.

After that, the demos were removed from the applications disc and put on separate discs (General & Platform Demos 6.5.x, or various system specific demo discs)
To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
I've got an Octane here that's looking for a new owner. Specs:

Dual 300MHz R12000 CPUs
'1467' main board
2GB RAM
MXE graphics
2x 18GB disks
'new logo' green skins.

System is fully working except for the white light bulbs in the front panel. It comes with a fresh IRIX installation. PM me about other software related details. I can probably dig up a matching keyboard and mouse too.

Shipping within Europe should be 34 to 40 EUR for most countries (these things are pretty heavy). You're welcome to come pick it up in person in Wijchen, The Netherlands (fairly close to the German border).

Asking 200 EUR.

Pictures:


DSC_3873.JPG
The DIMM clip (not in the picture) is included!



Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
*SOLD*

stay tuned for an O2 R5000 and an O2 R10K coming up ...
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
Does Gangsta count? I'm more into rock/alt music, but enjoy some Dr.Dre from time to time. The lyrics are so outrageous it's just funny :)
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
vishnu wrote: V12 prices have actually gone up in the last few years, since they've become so rare on ebay; you used to see one pop up every couple of weeks, now, almost never.

I used to pull 4D PowerSeries out of garages for HFL 50 (about 25EUR). They were not worth much because people liked the read of the Crimson better than the brown Power Series. Now there's people who think the individual boards are worth 1K .

The same will happen to the Onyx, the Onyx2 and the finally the Onyx3.

Oh, and I'll keep an eye on these. If these boards really are worth 10K/each I will probably retire in the near future ;)
To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
The Indy was the first SGI I owned so it will always have a special place in my heart. But the R10000 IMPACT was the first *practical* SGI I owned (must have it for ~ 15 years now). They are relatively robust and quite capable as long as running Firefox isn't on your wishlist. An R10K Indigo2 probably equals a 300MHz R12K O2 in real world usage. They come relatively cheap and lots were made so spare parts are not a problem (yet).

If you want something faster it will cost you. For the price of a fast O2 (400MHz R12K) you could just as well get a dual CPU Octane w./ VPro graphics. The O2 is fragile (plastics shatter when you look at it, pull the mobo with power cord in == instant death, etc). If you're willing to spend a couple of hundred bucks and want the 'SGI experience' I'd get an Octane2. Reliable and lots of parts around. If you like it you can easily upgrade to dual CPUs or V12 graphics with DCD (dual DVI out).

In my case, if I had to throw everything out and could keep only one, well I guess it depends on my mood of the day. On a crazy day I'd keep the Onyx2 or PowerChallenge. Once you taste big iron there's no going back :mrgreen: . On a reasonable day I'd probably keep the 2x600MHz Octane2 w. V12+DCD. On a sentimental day I'd probably keep the Indigo2 R10000 MaxImpact.
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
One of the more 'interesting' features of Yosemite is that it defaults to only loading signed kexts.

Not a problem for my MacBook Pro, but I hackintoshed my dual hexacore HP Z600 into a wannabe MacPro. Of course, like any hackintosh, this requires FakeSMC which is a 3rd party unsigned kext. So far all I've seen is how to work around this using a boot option but is a weak proposal: it's not said this option will be present in the GM release.

It'll be interesting to see how this evolves.
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
indyman007 wrote: Just take the psu out and test it with a good old multi meter. That'd be a good place to start.

Did you ever take one of these apart? There's a lot of cable inside which gets in the way of everything. Components are tightly packed -- changing those 4 capacitors can be a challenge already, never mind doing measurements inside a live specimen, where every mistake will easily turn the damn thing into an arc welder.

I wouldn't know how to start it unless if it's installed in an Indigo2 (there's no switch on it). But it will only install in an Indigo2 if it's closed, of course.

I've replaced capacitors in a couple of these and had roughly 50/50 success rate. If it worked: fine. If it didn't: trash. Oh, and I may be mistaken, but I have the feeling the pre-IMPACT PSUs don't suffer from this problem.

FWIW: the big difference between a ATX PSU and these things (other than the form factor) is that the PSU of an Indigo2 supplies lots of current on 3V3 and 5V rails. Modern PC power supplies don't do that: most current is supplied on the 12V rail(s) and regulators on the mainboard or graphics card convert it locally to whatever they need.
To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
Press releases have been renamed a blog .

A matter of buzzword compliance, I assume.
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
TeamBlackFox wrote: Well the Motif toolkit is available for free under the LGPL. Whether or not you should use it is a matter of personal choice.

IRIX 6.5 comes with Motif 1.2.x and 2.1.x preinstalled :)

GTK 2.x is very slow on IRIX because it assumes certain Xorg extensions and is real slow if it doesn't find them.
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
bjornl wrote: Right now I'm running it in my workplace. I have a lower rate than a household since it an industry

Damn. I should have my computer room rebadged 'industrial zone' :lol:

Nice system!
To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
hamei wrote: Is that common in Europe ? In China, companies pay two to three times as much for everything. And it goes by the zoning of the building so there's no "Okay, I'll just get the personal dsl ..."

Nah, it was just the though that seemed hilarious.

Over here it's the same, for internet at least: if your postal code is a business district you can only get business DSL. And pay an order of magnitude more for half the speed, of course.
To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
henrik2008 wrote: The scsi hdd has to be 50 pin
connector cable, i think!.

Correct, but with a suitable adapter you can use SCA (80pin) or 68pin disks as well.

henrik2008 wrote: what type of ram does two machine use ?.

http://www.sgistuff.net/hardware/system ... tml#memory
http://www.sgistuff.net/hardware/system ... tml#memory


henrik2008 wrote: hardware info:

1. sgi indy r5000, 320mb ram, 6 gb scsi hdd, solid impact graphicscard ( i think its the low end card?).

And Indy cannot have IMPACT graphics. There's XL graphics, either 8bit or 24bit, and XZ graphics (24bit, with hardware Z buffer)
Also, no Indy can have more than 256MB RAM installed.
To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
josehill wrote: Up to 9 exa bytes, though I don't remember if there is a smaller size limit on Indy hardware. In the worst case, it would be well into the terabytes.

That's the XFS file system limit.

You'll run into the 2TB max LUN size before that, which is a SCSI limit. Annoyingly, the same 2TB LUN limit applies to SAN storage.

In my Origin 350, I have a 4TB XVM volume made from two 2TB SATA disks on an LSI adapter. Bigger disks cannot be fx-ed (I think Ian M. tried and failed).

If you search around a bit you should be able to find cheap SCA disks cheap. Last time I needed some I ended up with Seagate 10K7, 300GB @ 25EUR each. The adapters can be found on eBay and cost a couple of bucks. Apparently some of them do not properly terminate the unused 'wide' scsi lanes and won't work in narrow scsi systems like Indy and Indigo2, but this never happened to me. also, technically speaking, U320 SCSI removed narrow (or was it fast?) SCSI from the spec, so some of the last U320 disks my not work. Again, this is theory, never happened to me. I usually buy Seagate 10K.7 or 15k.3 and newer disks, mainly because they have FD bearings which are quiet and keep the power consumption (==heat!) down.
To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
mapesdhs wrote: I've been told the PSUs are compatible with other SCSI/FC units, eg. SGI TP9100, etc.

I've got a TP9100 (the 2Gb FC version, a rebadged Xyratex RS-1600-FC2), and it's PSUs are entirely different. Maybe the 1Gb version?
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
I got one of these with my 4D/210 GTX. It died long ago (both the monitor and the 4D...).

Pontus wrote: Lots more:

I spot several dozen 2400bd modems there :)
To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
smj wrote: I'm happy to offer these services for a reasonable additional fee whenever I'm hired to perform an on-site IRIX upgrade . :lol:

I'll be the CS-H/W-ENGINEER . In case you're wondering, that's an Onsite Hardware Engineer. For a measly fee of $225K/yr I'll swap bits and pieces in and out of your systems. Have extensive experience with just about every MIPS/IRIX system. Customer will have to provide access during evening hours as I have a regular job already :mrgreen:
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
foetz wrote:
mopar5150 wrote:
vishnu wrote: This part looks pretty telling:

Code: Select all

Automatic update of PROM environment disabled
Graphics diagnostics

Installing PROM Device drivers ............
On-board (IO9) tigon3 1000BaseT interface
Base I/O Ethernet set to /dev/ethernet/tg0
Installing Graphics Console...
graphics install: searching for pipe 0
graphics install: cannot find VGA path /hw/module/002c26/IXbrick/xtalk/10/0/pci/
1a



That is the same graphics path that works when I run just the O350 and the GN brick. As soon as I add the router and other O350s I lose the graphics. Or are you saying something that I am missing?

if you're running only one o350 it might ignore the vga path but as soon as you have more o350s the path must be right. is it?


All modules of this system refer to themselves as rack #2, module #something. Could it be this is the 2nd half of a bigger system, and you need to reset the configuration (the infamous 'go cac / clearalllogs / ....' sequence), and maybe renumber the modules while you're at it?

Otherwise: nice system. I wonder if the IP gfx are Infinite Problems like they're rumored to be...
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
I'm staring at a brand new UltiMaker2, boss put it there for the employees to toy with :twisted: :mrgreen:
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
I have a couple of these old tapes too:

SoftImage 2.66
SoftImage dev kit
SoftImage ray rebels
SoftImage ray rebels kit only

Otherwise I can't help you. Never tried to load it on a system, never looked into the licensing scheme. I wonder what Ray Rebels is -- the name sounds kind of funky :mrgreen:
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
Yeah it got shoved down my iTunes. Probably their worst album since 'Pop'.

'How to dismantle an atomic bomb' is the last U2 album I play on a (semi) regular basis, but mostly I prefer their work from the 80's.
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
josehill wrote: You never get over your first Big Iron

.sig worthy :)
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
First of all, I would work on the object file (shr.o), not the archive.

Then, you've disassembled everything, including the relevant data structure, as code . Good luck interpreting that as PPC instructions ;)

Last but not least, regardless of the totally trivial protection mechanism of the IBM compiler, 'circumventing a copyright protection' is *illegal* in many parts of the world, including the US and Europe. I would hate to see this board go away because of the wrath of some IBM lawyer.
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
whiter wrote:
foetz wrote: it's so well equipped maybe people are afraid of the price :P


My guess is.... $12000 ?

(Based on what I see on eBay at the moment)

Never a shortage of people hoping to make a score on eBay ...

I can assure you I paid only a fraction of that amount for my 4x1GHz Tezro which came with all the 'Discreet' bells and whisles: DMedia, VBOB, FC, gigabit, audio, ...

For $12K the Discreet dongle is probably included. Otherwise it is roughly $10K overpriced.
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi

Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
Don't forget the new 'Wave' charging feature, while you're at it ;)
To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )
Debian has 'dash' as /bin/sh, but of course /bin/bash is there so that won't save you. I just installed the third bash update in 2 days :(
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To accentuate the special identity of the IRIS 4D/70, Silicon Graphics' designers selected a new color palette. The machine's coating blends dark grey, raspberry and beige colors into a pleasing harmony. ( IRIS 4D/70 Superworkstation Technical Report )