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Wrote on the subject of Alpha Emulator.. at Feb. 18, 2010, 9:59 p.m...
I guess some of you know about it..

But if you want to run OpenVMS or Tru64 in a WIndows PC...

ftp://tao:[email protected]/Pe ... 2.0.17.zip

Free for personal/hobbyist use..

I don't think that I've seen it mentioned here before.

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Wrote on the subject of Alpha Emulator.. at Feb. 19, 2010, 3:53 p.m...
Well.... If I could find a drive sled for my DS-20e...

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=16722841

.... I wouldn't be as interested.. There are a limited number of Alphas in the world..
One day emulation will be the only way once everything wears out.. :cry:

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Wrote on the subject of Alpha Emulator.. at Feb. 19, 2010, 8:30 p.m...
foetz wrote:
an alpha emu for windows to run windows?
anyway i'm sure it's the worst :D


no, worse than that would be running intel binaries under emulation (and profile/rewrite as Alpha machine code on the fly) on an emulated Alpha.

In the 1990s I did Visual C++ on Alpha and that was painful, running Intel binaries on the Alpha was worse because it would profile your code and rewrite sections of it as Alpha machine code, so your programs were supposed to get faster the more you ran them... but it seemed horribly slow... a pentium 90 was kicking the 200 or 300 MHz Alpha's butt under WindowsNT

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Wrote on the subject of Alpha Emulator.. at Feb. 19, 2010, 9:13 p.m...
hamei wrote:
PymbleSoftware wrote:
[...running Intel binaries on the Alpha was worse because it would profile your code and rewrite sections of it as Alpha machine code, so your programs were supposed to get faster the more you ran them...

FX!32 :D

Yep thats the one.

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Wrote on the subject of AlphaServer DS-20e not talking... at Feb. 20, 2010, 7:21 p.m...
I've got it working with Tru64 5.1 but without the license PAKs it is single user only.

I might have to update the firmware to put VMS on it and get my hobbyist licenses...

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Wrote on the subject of AlphaServer DS-20e not talking... at Feb. 20, 2010, 11:25 p.m...
Found some license :oops: :roll:

Happy now...
Attachment:
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Tru64.png [ 47.7 KiB | Viewed 95 times ]



That is Xnest on the Mac onto an XDM session...

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Wrote on the subject of windows can't see the disk in my alphastation (noob help) at Feb. 21, 2010, 2:19 p.m...
SAQ wrote:
I remember seeing, many years ago, a comparison that someone did between MS's top tech support and a call to the Psychic Hotline regarding a moderately complex DB question. Neither was able to fix the problem, the difference was that the Psychic Hotline admitted that they didn't know what they were doing, whereas MS kept trying to sell them stuff (I think).


I think I remember something like that. Was funny at the time.

SAQ wrote:
Pymble- did you run the original Alpha x86 (MS) emulator or DIGITAL's FX!32? My FX!32 experience is limited (I do have a copy somewhere, but the AS2100 I had NT on died), but it looked like a very strong approach to the problem - writing out pretranslated blocks of code to create a semi-"fat-binary" so after several runs very little of the code needed to be translated "in-flight".


I ran FX!32 at the time and wasn't impressed... Concept was great but my experience with it found it lacking in my opinion...

I have just started getting reacquainted with Tru64... somethings are good..
/etc/securettys as a file to specify which terminals you can log in as root was a good idea.. It is also in OpenBSD..
..and the DEC compiler has that wonderful ---------^ here, that is the part of the line of code I am complaining about in the error messages, not just the line number but position on the line too..

I am still waiting for my VMS hobbyist licenses...

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Wrote on the subject of windows can't see the disk in my alphastation (noob help) at Feb. 21, 2010, 5:15 p.m...
SAQ wrote:
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I have just started getting reacquainted with Tru64... somethings are good..
/etc/securettys as a file to specify which terminals you can log in as root was a good idea.. It is also in OpenBSD..
..and the DEC compiler has that wonderful ---------^ here, that is the part of the line of code I am complaining about in the error messages, not just the line number but position on the line too..

I am still waiting for my VMS hobbyist licenses...


Tru64 is an interesting breed. Most Unices have some parts that are advanced and some that are a bit ... anachronistic, but Tru64 seems to have more of the extremes. TruClusters at one end and the only current UNIX that still uses COFF on the other end (there are other examples of both - fortunately AdvFS has been stable for the last few releases).

Your VMS licenses should come through within a day of applying, or at least they do for DECUS/Encompass members. The disks take somewhat longer. Enjoy - VMS is frustrating at first , but then you learn to like bashing your head against it :) It's very different from UNIX, and unfortunately while I've seen about 2-3 different "UNIX for OpenVMS users" guides I've seen zero for going the other way.
BTW - You might as well start looking for a second machine to start a VMScluster with.


ADVFS is now open sourced...
http://advfs.sourceforge.net/

I don't find VMS frustrating... I did a diploma in the 1980s went into the workforce and then went to university after a few years in the industry... In the workplace, in the late 1980s, I used VMS on a VAX 11/780 ... we had some ongoing contract on something written in DIBOL at the time.. Went I got to university we did VAX assembler on VMS and all the MS-DOS and UNIX students really struggled and I said... "I remember this". Recently I used VAXmans VMS box (pfafner) and wrote "hello, world" in VAX assembler... reliving my uni days.. ;)
( I also did a little TSX-11 and RT-11 on the PDP 11/23 ... Queensland rail were still using PDPs in the late 1980s )

I am not sure about starting a VMScluster... I have another Tru64 box.. its an AlphaServer 800 5/550 running Tru64 4.0d.. I could put VMS on both and I could set up a VMScluster but I have other things I am interested in as well and a limited amount of time...

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Wrote on the subject of Still trying to buy a workstation- is this a fair deal? at Feb. 22, 2010, 3:19 p.m...
Zerolapse wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong...but I thought I just read a post that said Deep Space Cables was dead?

-Jesse


Reports vary...
They seem like Schroedinger's cat...

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Wrote on the subject of Still trying to buy a workstation- is this a fair deal? at Feb. 22, 2010, 9:41 p.m...
zackwatt wrote:
sbarton wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sun-13W3-M-to-HD15-F-VGA-Video-Port-Adapter_W0QQitemZ230344523298QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item35a19a7e22#ht_500wt_868

If your planning on using an LCD then list the video type (mgras/vpro) you received in the octane.


I thought "Sun" connectors won't work?

They are visually the same, but not interchangeable...


Some do and some don't there are threads about pulling or cutting pins...
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16722732&p=7316774&hilit=13w3+cut#p7316774


I have some 13W3 cables that only work on SGI and not SUN and some that work on both but most people report SUN cables won't work on SGI. I have the opposite experience to the most commonly reported.

More info in the wiki....
http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/index.php/13W3
http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/index.php/13w3_to_VGA

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Wrote on the subject of Could it be possible to make a full gnu/irix system? at Feb. 23, 2010, 3:40 p.m...
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I think to a system that's using Irix kernel and base tools, with GNU bases and only gpl softwares in /bin /usr/bin etc... xorg ...
With a system like that, maybe it will be easier to port softwares on mips ?


Go off and do it then come and tell me when you are finished it.

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Wrote on the subject of Who is COPAN systems..? at Feb. 24, 2010, 6:54 p.m...
They seem to have some customers at least..

http://www.copansystems.com/

Am I excited yet..? Or even morbidly interested yet..?

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Wrote on the subject of Who is COPAN systems..? at Feb. 24, 2010, 7:06 p.m...
josehill wrote:
Isn't this the part where people chime in about how stupid SGI is for doing anything at all besides IRIX/MIPS, how capitalism is the worst approach to economics ever, how we're all doomed, how...

Oh, never mind. I'm just going to hide in my cave full of canned goods and ammunition while preparing for the inevitable. ;)


Paging Hamei...

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Wrote on the subject of Alpha Emulator.. at Feb. 25, 2010, 5:03 a.m...
miod wrote:
I am surprised noone mentioned ES40 ( http://www.es40.org/ ) yet.


Interesting error from first attempt to compile it..

Code:
Making all in src
gmake[1]: Entering directory `/nas/irix/es40/src'
cd .. && /bin/sh /nas/irix/es40/missing --run autoheader
aclocal.m4:14: error: this file was generated for autoconf 2.61.
You have another version of autoconf.  If you want to use that,
you should regenerate the build system entirely.
aclocal.m4:14: the top level
autom4te: /usr/nekoware/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 63
autoheader: '/usr/nekoware/bin/autom4te' failed with exit status: 63
WARNING: `autoheader' is probably too old.  You should only need it if
you modified `acconfig.h' or `configure.ac'.  You might want
to install the `Autoconf' and `GNU m4' packages.  Grab them
from any GNU archive site.
Cannot create [src/config.h].in: No such file or directory
rm -f stamp-h1
touch config.h.in
cd .. && /bin/sh ./config.status src/config.h
config.status: creating src/config.h
config.status: src/config.h is unchanged
gmake  all-am
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/nas/irix/es40/src'
source='AliM1543C.cpp' object='AliM1543C.o' libtool=no \
DEPDIR=.deps depmode=none /bin/sh ../depcomp \
CC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.   -I/usr/nekoware/include -I/usr/nekoware/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/nekoware/lib/glib/include  -O3 -mips4 -n32 -Zf,_245 -INLINE -woff 1110,1171,1201,1355,3201 -DIRIX64  -DHAVE_X11 -c -o AliM1543C.o AliM1543C.cpp
cc-1035 CC: WARNING File = /usr/include/stdint.h, Line = 5
#error directive:  This header file is to be used only for c99 mode
compilations

#error This header file is to be used only for c99 mode compilations
^

cc-1005 CC: ERROR File = StdAfx.h, Line = 311
The source file "Poco/Thread.h" is unavailable.

#include <Poco/Thread.h>
^

1 catastrophic error detected in the compilation of "AliM1543C.cpp".
Compilation terminated.
gmake[2]: *** [AliM1543C.o] Error 2
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/nas/irix/es40/src'
gmake[1]: *** [all] Error 2
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/nas/irix/es40/src'
gmake: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
mickey:/nas/irix/es40>


Looks like C programming inside C++ code does not sit well with MIPS Pro...?

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Wrote on the subject of Cool (open source) software you would like to see ported... at Feb. 25, 2010, 5:38 a.m...
Poco ( http://pocoproject.org/ ) would be useful for me.

It has been ported beyond linux and windows before:

Code:
./configure
Unknown configuration: IRIX64
Please use the --config option to specify another build configuration
The following configurations are available:
AIX                  FreeBSD              SSV-LINUX
ARM-Linux            GCCEMBEDLINUX        SunOS
Angstrom             HP-UX                SunOS-GCC
CEGCCARM             Linux                SunOS-SunForte
CYGWIN               Linux-stlport        SunOS-SunStudio
CygLinux             MinGW                SunOS-SunStudio11
Darwin               OSF1                 SunOS-stdcxx-x86_64
Darwin7              PPC-Linux            iPhone
Darwin_x86_64        QNX
DigiEL               SH-Linux

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Wrote on the subject of Alpha Emulator.. at Feb. 25, 2010, 3:21 p.m...
ShadeOfBlue wrote:
PymbleSoftware wrote:
Code:
cc-1035 CC: WARNING File = /usr/include/stdint.h, Line = 5
#error directive:  This header file is to be used only for c99 mode
compilations

#error This header file is to be used only for c99 mode compilations
^


Try replacing '#include <stdint.h>' with '#include <inttypes.h>'.


Thanks, I will try that.

I also tried a gcc build and immediately ran into the missing Poco library problem.

I will get around to it eventually.

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Wrote on the subject of IRIX compatible PCI Cards - A Visual Aggregation at Feb. 26, 2010, 2:36 p.m...
nekonoko wrote: Might want to add this to the wiki - it should allow photo uploads as well (and if it isn't, let me know).


Done.
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hamei wrote:
I can't believe none of us neko nutcases hasn't grabbed this yet, been for sale for a while. Shipping to China would be out of the question or /me would have one hulking big black box in the corner, frightening any children that came to visit :(

http://cgi.ebay.com/IBM-7039-651-pSerie ... 53dfc2dc86


Nice..! Not a bad price either...
If I wasn't broke and not living on the other side of the planet and didn't already have some RS/6000s and waaaay too many racks already..

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compuman86 wrote: well, finally solved. I spent the better half of the day swapping parts between two O2 boards, with trial, error, and success. my problem and solution go as follows:
1. the board in o2 x was a 1997 board with what I found to be a 300mhz "2000 sgi" processor
2.the board in o2 y was a 1997 board and 200mhz "1997 cube-bug" processor
both had 4.14 PROM versions

so I switched processor y into board x , installed 6.5, upgraded overlay to 6.5.22, which upgraded the PROM to 4.18. upon swapping the x processor back into the x board, it all works!

so as it seems, PROM version seems to dictate what processor version works in what board...


Might be wiki material ...? In the O2 topic maybe..?
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Wrote on the subject of Sun Blade ram compatibility at March 1, 2010, 1:19 p.m...
reid wrote:
I have two dead Sun Blade 1000s (I found that processors were screwed in too tight). I want to get my hands on a Sun Blade 2500, and I was wondering if the Blade 1000 ram would work in it.


Not sure.
Look up the part number in http://docs.sun.com

reid wrote:
Also, any ideas on what to do with these? Anyone know if the DVD drives will work in an Octane2 (Toshiba I *think*).

Thanks!


I only have SCSI CD drives in my Blade 1000 and the same model works on SGI.

What to do with these..
QuakeIII Team Arena, Blender, Sun Studio, MySQL, PHP, MediaWiki, xchat, PostgreSQL, Oracle..

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Wrote on the subject of Missing IP numbers.. at March 5, 2010, 2 a.m...
I put this wiki article together mostly from the hinv section of nekochan...
http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/index.php/ ... stem_names )

I got to wondering .. What happened to IP1, IP2, IP3, IP4, IP5, IP8, IP11, etc.... ???

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Wrote on the subject of Missing IP numbers.. at March 5, 2010, 2:09 a.m...
jan-jaap wrote:
Several of the IP numbers you mention did exist: http://old.sgistuff.net/hardware/tables.php#ip

The rest probably never made it to a real product. Which makes you wonder what happened between IP35 (Fuel) and IP53 (Tezro).


Thanks for the link.

I guess we will never know what the missing ones might have been if they had been released..

That thing with the SW/HW IPs had confused me a little. If someone wants to clean up the table and fill in the blanks..

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Wrote on the subject of Missing IP numbers.. at March 6, 2010, 4:21 a.m...
zuluchas wrote:
PymbleSoftware wrote:
I put this wiki article together mostly from the hinv section of nekochan...
"http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/index.php/IP_Numbers(Module_and_system_names)"


Nice work. I've updated it some. Feel free to join in, all -- the water's warm! :)


I have messed with the wiki topic a little, I hope that is it an improvement..

I noticed something...

For a certain range of time, even numbered machines are always "lower-end of the era", ie workstations as apposed to servers, which explains some of the gaps at least. Some missing odd numbers are times when they designed more workstations than servers.

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Wrote on the subject of good read whether you agree with it or not :) at March 9, 2010, 4:24 p.m...
Its all true.

The mandatory party thing and hostess clubs, the screaming and office protocols ... actually most of the blog ... I agree with, totally... they exist.. I however just went with it.. None of it bothered me... at least not to the extent of the blog writer..
I am not a vegetarian, I didn't mind smoking.. I drank with colleagues at any request. I went to hostess clubs with the team.
I ate with the team often. I was accepted as much as an outside person could be. The Chinese guy and myself were still on the outside on somethings, but generally not that often.

Actually there are a lot of vegetarians in Japan... Just claim to be Buddhist, if you don't want to eat meat.

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Dragongolfer wrote:
Hey I was just wondering if there were any people here on nekochan that were familiar with programing in AIX, and programing for IBM mainframes.



In 1986 I did some RPG-II on a System/34 ... I have played with the Hercules mainframe emulator (which I ported to IRIX in a previous thread)

I have done AIX device drivers (1997) and a fair amount of AIX work.
I once was in a team of 6 programmers who ported more than a Gb of source code from Tru64 to AIX at a Telco.
Early AIX was woeful. A real nightmare. Modern stuff is alright.

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Wrote on the subject of Any AIX or IBM mainframe programmers here? at March 10, 2010, 4:23 p.m...
ChristTrekker wrote:
PymbleSoftware wrote:
Early AIX was woeful. A real nightmare. Modern stuff is alright.

What version is the cutoff for "early"?


I dunno... maybe 3.x or 4.x ...?

I was doing device driver maintenance in 1997 on AIX, HP-UX, WindowsNT, Tru64, I completed the Solaris version... There was a group of about 20 application programmers whining about AIX probably before 4.x...Lack of POSIX compliance, system calls didn't work properly, non standard this, non standard that.. whinge bitch moan... They all did. Thinking back, remember this English guy complaining that some system call failed when called from his code, didn't return an error indication and didn't set errno and he had no way of determining if it succeeded or not...

I spent a few months on a single driver bug on AIX and it was my least favourite UNIX at the time.. There was some real weirdness in the driver code and working on the driver everything seemed primitive and painful to work with on AIX... The other UNIXes seemed so much easier at the time..

Recently, in the last few years I have been messing about with AIX 5.3-003 and like it on my 7025-F80.

AIX is about the only UNIX I think might have any kind of future.


These are only my recollections of the work I did in the past and the 2nd hand accounts of people I worked with....

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I used DECstations and VAXen at university also.
I had a DECstation 5000 running Ultrix but something major failed in it, it was a loooong time ago.

I didn't mind Ultrix, I did have problems with it at the time that I can recall on ... VAX or MIPS versions..

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SAQ wrote:
vanilla SysVr2.


I used SVR2 on Tower32s and TowerXP (Motorola based 68000s)..
The store everything in binary and the overwrite the text files in /etc from this database was just evil. :twisted: :(

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Wrote on the subject of Linux Graphicscard for IBM 275 at March 12, 2010, 4:07 p.m...
Interesting, explains why I had problems installing Linux graphically on the 275..
I thought it was jut my config...
I'd been using mine headless for PHP testing, web site backups, source code control, etc..

I should take everything off it and install AIX..

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Wrote on the subject of SGI systems power usage at March 14, 2010, 12:08 a.m...
I have started a wiki topic and there is a lot of information already in the forums... Was obi-wan who said, "Use the search, Luke". No, wait that might have been the force.. almost as powerful.

http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/Power_usage

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A friend of a friends friends flickr page... or something like that... I think its meant to be a stylized artistic representation of the city.. I only recognize a few places near where I lived, hung-out or worked.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisjongkind/

.. enjoy.

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Check out the desaturation or washout of the guys of this photo..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisjongkind/3273201874/

It might be a bit of cheap photoshop trickery but it looks nice..

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Sacrifist wrote: You still have the Octane? I may be interested. What's in it?

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The first thing to do when undertaking any project is to create a big mess.
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Get it into the house...
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Then wonder which CPU board goes where...
Kinda hoping that these are R10Ks...
Even though there are two CPUs per board they both execute the same instruction with the same data and the results are compared, any differences causes alarms. Thus a quad CPU machine is actually operating as a dual..
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Seems to run fine, but ...
a. Sounds like a Jet Fighter taking off..
b. I am missing one of the drives.
c. I have no way of talking to it yet..

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Wrote on the subject of Tandem Non-Stop. at March 18, 2010, 11:41 p.m...
uridium wrote:
Nice one Pymb. Looking forward to progress with it :>

I like the simm's. They look almost as large as the ones out of a DEC SPIM box or a HP9000 G-Class. Hawt.

So.. 2 cpu's? only 1 cpu card? Spec? :) :)


I believe the spec at this stage is two CPU boards with two locked-stepped CPUs in each... effectively a dual CPU machine.
Looks like 512Mb RAM. 15 4Gb disks RAIDed.

More research is needed..

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Wrote on the subject of Tandem Non-Stop. at March 19, 2010, 12:49 a.m...
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Neat machine! I thought that tandem computers used three CPU:s so that when a fault occurred, the comparison logic would know which CPU to throw out. Perhaps it's a question of how much you could afford.

What OS does it run, does it require software support for the fault tolerance?


No. two CPUs are in lock step on the same board, if there is a mismatch between the two the whole board should be replaced. Only two CPUs are required for this. Like the Onyx2 there is two CPUs per board and this machine has two boards, unlike Onyx2 and Origin2000 this has 4 CPUs acting like two.

I believe that the OS is called "Tandem NonStop UX"...

Since this is a newer looking machine, I think you don't have to write your software to specifically be fault tolerant.
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One CPU board on one side with the black handle two of each I/O board in the middle and the other CPU board one the other side, again with a black handle..

If anyone has documentation on this machine please let me know... Cheers.

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1. The edit in the previous post was me adding the extra photo..
2. Sorry if I am blogging in the forum, Pete.

The basics in wikipedia I kinda knew but thanks anyway.
There are some more interesting concepts like worm-hole routing but you need much bigger configurations for that.

I might have some access to some documentation, not sure if it is the correct model or anything..

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Wrote on the subject of Tandem Non-Stop. at March 19, 2010, 4:57 a.m...
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PymbleSoftware wrote:
There are some more interesting concepts like worm-hole routing but you need much bigger configurations for that.


you don't need the machine to learn about that stuff...


True, I don't need to put my hand on a stove to know that it is hot ... but programming and systems engineering things I learn sticks better by practice and application. Stepping through an actually functioning compiler under a dbx taught me far more than "The dragon book", Al Holubb's "Compilers in C" and the rest of my compiler bookshelf... and the functioning compiler we wrote in final year of university was more than a decade ago.. I could read about hypercubes, craylink, ccNUMA or I could read about such things and build a 24 CPU Onyx2 and 12 CPU Origin 300.. Kei-ye ma?

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Wrote on the subject of Tandem Non-Stop. at March 19, 2010, 6:48 a.m...
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Is that a 1850R in photo "tandem3.JPG"? If it is and you need any <free> parts let me know. Got one here that with fairly decent specs that's gonna go the next time they do an electronics recycling drive locally. It's in running order and all of the parts are good <max RAM, RAID controller, dual processors, dual power supplies 3xUSR Courier PCI modems, etc>. I just don't have the room to keep it.


Thanks. The 1850R came with the Tandem. The guy who I got the machine from said that rack has been sitting in their server room and he thought it was "part of the whole deal".
He also added that he walked past it everyday for the last two years, in wonder of it.
I wonder how long it had been decommissioned for.

When I worked a company that Motorola spun-out in a management buy-out and then was later absorbed into Rockwell, the Tandem was separate and didn't have a 1850R near it that I recall. Some middle manager got to play CEO of a listed company for a few years and then retired with about $100 million from Rockwell.

I haven't fired up the 1850R yet.

Edit: I fired up the 1850R it is a dual 550MHz with about 512Mb and Windows 2003 Server. I have no password for it and no idea what the machine was used for.

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Is, or are , there [a] good Nekoware, TGCware, OpenCSW, Blastwave , etc. equivalent for AIX open source/freeware? I've so far only come across several, Bull being the more prominent one. But it has very little by the looks of it, certainly for 6.1, or am I looking in the wrong place?


There is one ... I wouldn't say good ... but IBM themselves have one ... I think I started a search at boulder ibm.com
I could find it but I can not get to my RS/6000s right now...

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