The collected works of PymbleSoftware - Page 8

I swear I was a asleep when I did this but... new wiki topic:

http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/ ... _from_OS_X

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smj wrote: [And yes, I'm thinking about how to update the Fuel wiki page on the larger question of compatible peripherals - pretty sure Regan, fu, et al had some discussion about that recently.]

No so much me, I have never even seen a Fuel so I took information from the forums or elsewhere. My SGI experience has been pretty much what is in my signature line, except for a bit of commercial work on 8 CPU Power Challenges and a similar machine on postgrad work at university. Oh a bit of poking around in F111 code (in Ada) on a Crimson. So knock yourself correcting anything I've merely propagated across.

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smj wrote:

BetXen wrote: Anyway, If you know how to make them reproduce, give me a call ! It would be funny to have a baby O200 as paperweight...

Well I don't, but fellow nekochanner sgifanatic has been developing aluminum skins for the IRIS Indigo in this thread - it's long, but stick with it and you'll see some amazing replacement parts.

I used to dabble in plastic

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Rincewind wrote: Hi,

I am looking for some R12000/R14000 dual CPU modules for my Octanes.
Has somebody something to offer?

Best regards,
Christoph

I'd like the same... better than dual 300MHz would be nice.

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pm sent

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Started a wiki page on roboinst .
Go for broke on it..


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Updated the wiki topic, also put a link back to this forum thread.

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Cares enough to kill the sgi registered developer program and kick me off supportfolio registered area.
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deBug wrote:

.. and kick me off supportfolio registered area.
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Didn't you get the mail from SGI a couple of weeks ago instructing you to login to your account or it would be deleted?

No more women kissing as avatar?? (who where they anyway?)
//Harry

Well Harry, the red head is a Welsh unmarried woman who happens to be the prime minister of Australia who only got the job by stabbing an ear wax eating moron in the back. The ear wax eating moron, who got thrown out of NY stip joints (thus the reference in the song "you blew it at strip joints, hey thats cool I know I did") did not get his tax on air through parlement. But the red head looks a shoe-in to tax the air, and cripple all industry in this country.... and that one of the more sane things they are doing. Meanwhile the navy can not protect the nations boarders from two men in a leaky fishing boat (about 3 a week).

The blond was a serious journalist who became a politician, and came out as really a complete fruit loop.

I am not making any of this up...
Seriously.

The prime minister flirting with the leader of the opposition on breakfast TV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57AZoqKQyZQ
Mind you the prime minster will flirt with anyone.

The red head sounds like a stroke victim struggling to put two coherent phases together.
This is a parody of her... but the send up makes too much sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lhb1-1Fuhw

Song (the air hostest crying is from the former prime ministers habit of reducing flight attendants to tears)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBraee8tPZE

Song about the red head as the nations number two... and what a number two she was..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJD96bd1nyo

Its hilarious...

We have members of parlement hiding behind pilars and chairs in the hope that the speaker of the house doesn't notice them coming back late from lunch (they get mentioned on public record for it), earwax eating while someone else is giving a speech, breast feeding on the floor of the house... and these just the things that you might actually believe... Oh yeah, and schemes to burn down peoples houses to help the economy (jobs, jobs, jobs, at any cost)...

Yum, dinner time.. and I haz had an earful of this twit..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
(actual footage)

My supportfolio account was deleted long ago.

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Yup, I was in developer plus.

I am probably even more ignorant of European politics, Harry.

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So I am asked to port some software... It requires boost and opencv.
On the Mac, I go "sudo port boost" and "sudo port opencv" and "make" and the code just builds.
Total effort almost zero.
right, Mac code done.

I go looking for boost and opencv on OpenIndiana.

Not in the openindiana package repository.
pkg list | grep opencv
pkg list | grep boost

sunfreeware.com has boost but its from 2008 (ver 1.36 or so and latest is 1.46) and the code I am responsible for uses newer features of boost.

Blastwave doesn't have boost or opencv.

Building either package with either gcc or the sun studio compiler gives tons of errors.

I really need boost and opencv and have no time to fix all the compile issues.

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ianj wrote: If you can't find something in the standard repository, SFE is the first place to look. Blastwave et. al. are severely out of date and were never intended for anything newer than Solaris 10. OpenIndiana is hosting an IPS repository of prebuilt SFE packages, which you should add:

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pfexec pkg set-publisher -O http://staticdev.uk.openindiana.org:10002/ oi-sfe

It contains boost packages, but not opencv. Try building it yourself from the SFE spec. Also, keep in mind that pkg list will only print packages installed on your system. You'll need to use pkg list -a to print the entire contents of the repo.

Also be aware that the location and organization of oi-sfe might change. OpenIndiana hasn't finalized how they want to handle packages yet.

Thanks. I added the SFE repo with the pfexec command you specified above and this version had enough that the boost portions of code that were failing to compile previously actually compiled this time.
Digging around I found http://staticdev.uk.openindiana.org:100 ... ion=Search
So now, OpenCV is my only concern for this part of the project.

Edit: After installing pkg-config 0.25 from sunfreeware.com I did get OpenCV 1.0.0 to build, but not 1.1.
Hopefully there are no dependancies on newer versions.
But now there are other issues to deal with and should be doing other work anyway.

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jpstewart wrote: Do the included disks have IRIX drivers & software or is it Windows only? It's kind of hard to make out in the pictures, but it looks to me like the CDs and floppy disk all mention Windows. Or are drivers included with IRIX anyway?

I've always wanted one of these Spaceballs, but I know absolutely nothing about them!

I have nothing to do with the seller, but if it is a compatible device, and it looks like the one I have.. Spaceball drivers are built into IRIX...with correct bits installed in swmgr.. read the wiki topic: here

Also there is a libsball with a example app to play around with on the nekochan ftp in the "see also" section of the wiki topic.

I hope this answers your questions.

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I started a wiki topic for you here:

http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/O2_Video

Create an account if you don't already have one and myself or nekonoko will approve it ...
... login and click edit at the topic of the page on the topic ...
type or paste text in and go to town on the topic...


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leaknoil wrote: The card in the box says,

"SpaceWare 7.4 supports only the following operating systems:

IBM AIX 4.1.5 and 4.2
SGI IRIX 5.3, 6.2, and 6.4
Sun Solaris 2.5 and 2.5.1
Hewlett-Packard HP-UX 9.07 and 10.20
Digital DEC UNIX 3.2G and 4.08"


I imagine there are updates out there somewhere online too.

Interesting, I never knew about support for such things on Digital UNIX/Tru64 for example.
If it does work differently, I hope that if anyone does buy or trade for it, they update the wiki or provide enough feedback for a useful wiki update.

jpstewart wrote: Thanks for the link to the Wiki page! I have a bad habit of forgetting to check the wiki for info.

You're very welcome, I think if continue to work on the wiki it will be more useful for everyone.
smj did restructure it a bit but we can continue to work to make it easier to find stuff.
There is more than 500 articles and although I spent a couple of weeks making sure there was a path to every article it not always the easiest wiki to navigate.

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I want to spin down SATA disks in one pool and in our own software switch writing to the other pool.

I have two zfs pools: data1 and data2 each with two drives in the pool.
I want to write to data1, offline it, continue writing to data2 pull both disks out of data1 replace them with two new disks.
Then I want to do the inverse for the other pool... that is write to one, offline and replace the disks out of the other, back and forth.

In IRIX I can "scsicontol -i some-parameters stop" and then walk over an pull the drive out of the JBOD.

I can in OpenIndiana:



But as soon as I attempt to offline the 2nd disk in the pool it says it can't because obviously there is nothing left in the mirror.
I want to pull both drives out without any pool destroy commands or the like.
I want to sneaker net the drives across the city by a non technical person.

Also I can not stop the SATA disks.
cfgadm only picks up the entire raid controller (which we are using as a JBODs).
cfgadm -c unconfigure c1t2d0 comes back with some thing to the effect of not knowing what the device is...

I hope this makes sense.

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gkl wrote: I'm not 100% clear on what you want to do, but if you want to pull a pool after it's written to,

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zpool export data1

which will sync everything and "offline" all devices within it.

Perfect. Thanks.

gkl wrote: As far as hot-unplugging disks, I do this for scsi disks with

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cfgadm -x remove_device c3::c1t2d0

This quiesces the scsi bus (c3) after confirmation and automatically unconfigures the disk after asking "has the operation succeeded?"

After plugging in new disks, issue

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devfsadm

which will re-scan the buses and attach the appropriate disk driver (sd in the case of scsi disks), then

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zpool import

to list what zpools exist on the new disks you inserted.

I think this is what you were asking about.

This shows up in prtconf as pci-ide and "Intel 82801JI", "4 + 2 port SATA" and googling around leads me to believe that it is hot plug able.

the cfgadm command above reports:


cfgadm command by itself gives something like:



I'll poke around in prtconf or whatever and see if I can get more info.

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gkl wrote:

PymbleSoftware wrote: the cfgadm command above reports:

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cfgadm: Attachment point not found.


I edited my post right after I posted it--try issuing 'cfgadm -al' to show the disks attached to each attachment point (controller). Then cfgadm -x remove_device on the full ctlr::dsk/cXtXdX *should* prove more fruitful

Thanks.







Maybe this hardware can not hot swap after all.

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MrWeedster wrote: I copied all the CD Roms to the disk with
cp -R /CDROM

cp -R will not copy hidden files...
files whose name starts with a dot.


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We are running on OS-X at work (27 inch iMac with i5s and i7s 16Gb RAM, etc) and one of the guys is watching the video and I saw $129 on the screen.. I guess that is a server edition or something.. anyway its a hell of a lot cheaper Windows7 and I had a series of hardware crashes on Win7 and worse network performance than WindowsXP at my last job so $30 or $129... I'd probably pay it if I had the hardware to run it. I guess I will find out about it all (Lion, iCloud, etc) from banter around the office.

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Thanks all. I've been given another controller.
But I have other duties to perform.

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nice

Oh, and welcome.

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I put your hinv in the wiki topic.
Could you please write anything at all about the machine in the wiki topic http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/SGI_Onyx4
If you need an account just register and I or nekonoko will create it for you.

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I've driven around the USA a bit...

My picks of what I experienced in no order were...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryce_Canyon_National_Park

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_Crater

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navajo_Nation at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument_Valley

I remember a gas station/burger king in monument valley that was also a museum to the wind talkers of the second world war, where coded messages to the US pacific fleet were inter mixed with news of the reservations births, deaths and marriages, recipes for snake, etc all transmitted in the native american language... Oh they made a movie about that too... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_Talkers

I thought the Grand Canyon was a let down for some reason... maybe I wasn't in the right mood that day.

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josehill wrote:

PymbleSoftware wrote: I thought the Grand Canyon was a let down for some reason... maybe I wasn't in the right mood that day.

Perhaps it was the weather or lighting, too. I had to be dragged to the Grand Canyon on my cross country trip. I figured that I had seen it hundreds of times on tv and in photographs, so why should I go out of my way to see a crack in the dirt? I arrived at the canyon just before sunset, and I was totally unprepared for the scale, the depth, and the range of colors. Almost a sensory overload.

Strangely enough, despite all that, I don't have any particular desire to go back. Maybe I'm afraid that the second time wouldn't be like the first, and I want to keep the memories of the first time undiminished.

It was a hazy day, in the middle of the day and maybe I had seen enough impressive things already and I'd hyped it up in my own mind but it left me flat.

When I was kid I used to ride Japanese dirt bikes a lot. I rode about 2 miles to the school bus stop through paddocks and crop fields. Films like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Way_Round inspire me to do an epic trip from time to time but life and the retarded 3rd-world socialist police state in which I live soon gets in the way.

Being alone in the middle of nowhere with nothing in any direction for seemingly forever does seem like pure freedom for the moment... I can appreciate in my own mind what Recondas'es trip would have been like.

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Sorry, I only use my wacom on discreet apps like smoke and flame on a Tezro on IRIX 6.5.xx where xx is like 25 or 30... can't remember. I've never been able to get it working outside of Discreet applicaitons but I've never tried too hard either.

I updated the wacom wiki page to include that stuff from the way back machine that hamei wanted to add.

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Modern Apple gear is fine but check this out. I have a Mac at work with 16Gb RAM. I run OpenCV's haar_training on it. You can cause OpenCV to leak memory like a mother in some cases. I am watching Activity Monitor and sure enough haar_training hits 8Gb physical RAM used but the Terminal that spawned it hits 5Gb RAM used. I do the same thing from an xterm and guess what the xterm never goes beyond a couple of dozen Mb. Whats up with that? OS-X with the most modern processors available and 16Gb RAM should be enough for a desktop but run Safari, Chrome or Terminal and look out. Trust me I don't miss Windows in the work place at all but this seems messed up. Cue SkyWriters defence of all things Apple.

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Wiki'ed with attribution back to this thread:
VFO topic.

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R-ten-K wrote: That is a bit of a chicken an egg problem, no? C was fundamental to the development of Unix. You could not have one without the other.

From what I have read recently. UNIX was implemented first in B or BCPL or some language like that around 1968/1969 and then rewritten in C and assembler and released in 1971.

I can't find the cartoon with the egg and chicken in bed smoking ... and one them says "well that answers that question".

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porter wrote:

PymbleSoftware wrote: They had object-orientated code in C by use of structs and function pointers.

Similarly, Xt Intrinsics & Motif, MS-Windows & OS/2 PM.

I can't use the original Mac as an example as that was 68k assembler & pascal, but it achieved the same.

... Looks at the shelves and and shelves of X11 books not opened in years and goes ... oh... yeah.... You are right.

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Oskar45 wrote: Actually, originally Thompson set out to create a FORTRAN compiler for "First Edition" Unix but then instead created B [with the help of Ritchie; the "Second Edition" Unix kernel was written in it] which was only later developed into C by Ritchie.

Completely OT again [but as Ritchie was not only the creator of C but also the co-developer of Unix maybe admissible]: AFAIK, Microsoft - before they embarked predominately on DOS etc. - actually was some sort of "Unix"-oriented company as well [Xenix]. I find it unfortunate that they withdraw themselves from that opportunity - otherwise, the PC market today could be probably totally *nix and there wouldn't have been any need for Linux [which just fills the niche Microsoft left open]...Ritchie would have been satisfied, I'm sure.

I think I read somewhere, quite some time ago now that when mickeysoft sold XENIX to SCO, (or was SCO spun out of MSFT?) part of the "goodwill" (intangible assets) was an undertaking the Microsoft would never ever reenter the UNIX market place as some part of a non-complete clause. But then I am not a lawyer and I don't recall where I read that. Microsoft vowed to destroy UNIX, I think such was stated even in their advertising. I also read that they were still doing work on PDP or VAX, and cross-compiling (for DOS?) long after everyone else moved on, http://www.microsoft.com was run on FreeBSD and apache for years even while they were selling IIS, WIndows95 was developed in Canada by the outsourcing company that appears in the Copyright list before Microsoft and SCO when XENIX boots and the original MS-DOS/PC-DOS was developed as a quick hack of what he long over due CP/M-86 could/should have been by a company in Seattle before DRI released CP/M-86. MS-DOS 1.0 ran for about 10 to 15 minutes before locking solid or reseting the machine. But then I never really experienced MS-DOS before I think 2.0 or maybe 3.3. 386BSD was a free UNIX based on articles in Dr Dobbs Journal. Guys around campus put up "Free the Berkley Devil" posters as well as plastic California number plates with "UNIX:Live free or die" on their walls. FREENIX was a movement and bound to happen Linux just got there first. There was MINIX, the XINU book and other things happening but it was all very academic.

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porter wrote:

PymbleSoftware wrote: FREENIX was a movement and bound to happen Linux just got there first.

What alot of people think of as Linux, is actually GNU.

Linux just slotted in where the Hurd was supposed to be, as it got stuck in a tar-pit.

Some people have even taken to calling it GNU/Linux.

They were just waiting for Duke Nukem Forever to be released before releasing the Hurd.

Yowsa, are we off topic yet?


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