The collected works of Jack Luminous - Page 2

That's the only viable way I found after weeks of trials and error. Maybe there's a better software-based solution but I haven't found it. Also you can test first by unplugging the monitor to prevent the DDC probing and re-plug it when the Octane has booted.
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Why did you switch from SGI ? For security reasons or electrical bill ? May I ask what upload rate do your ISP provide and at what price ? I wanted to do something similar at home (using my Octane 2) but getting a decent upload rate where I live is prohibitively expensive so I gave up... I would have gladly hosted a nekoware mirror if the whole thing went through.
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hamei wrote:
jan-jaap wrote: I have to pay €0,23 per kWh.

I s'pose you know, you have the world's most expensive electricity ? Even post-Enron California is only about a third that price. There must be a reason ?


In Cali, it's about $0,17 per kWh so bit more than a third. In France it's about €0,13 (but we're all gonna die of radiation poisoning sooner or later LOL).
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The Keeper wrote: Sorry for the delayed response. WWN bindings under IRIX are typically only when you're operating in a fabric with a switch. When the drives are direct-attached, the drives look more like SCSI.


Don't be sorry, please ! I'm certainly not in a hurry and any kind of help is warmly welcome ! 8-)

The Keeper wrote: Now that I see your hinv (or maybe I didn't notice before), I see you're using the Adaptec AIC-1160. I've never used that one, I've only ever used QLogic cards. Maybe the AIC-1160 is being stupid, I'm not sure. The LUN mapping should be persistent across the FC-AL ID's, so there might be a firmware configuration setting, but it'd be hard to get to in an IRIX box. Adaptec got out of the Fibre Channel and iSCSI business a very long time ago, possibly because they couldn't figure out what they were doing.

Does the AIC-1160 have a DB9 connector or an HSSDC connector? Either way, I'd probably suggest trying a QLA2200, because I never ran into the problem you're describing. I could tell from a Fibre Channel analyzer trace, but, well, those aren't very common.

Tell you what, drop me an email at my gmail account, with the username kalisiak. I'm sure I have copper QLA2200's laying around, and I can take a look and see if I have an extra HSSDC-DB9 cable if you don't have one.

Chris


The AIC-1160 was there as part of the original Avid config I think. It has a DB9 connector and the D9 Stone also has a DB9 connector. Thanks a lot for your proposal, you'll be receiving an email any minute now ! :lol:
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jan-jaap wrote: The AIC-1160 is not SAN capable if I'm not mistaken, but for a direct attached (FC-AL) JBOD it should do just fine. I used to have one in my O2K deskside with a monster SUN A5200 array attached.


It is directly attached in my case. Still, it's working weirdly IMHO. Maybe it's a firmware issue. I have another FC-AL XIO card to try but it is an Origin/Onyx2 kind of hook so I need to hack it first before trying.
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It's strange because my old D9 Stone with single channel FC-AL JBOD config (no striping) gives me those numbers :


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Cobalt 1# diskperf -W -D -t10 -n"D9 Stone IBM HUS153030VLF400" -c500 /stor/stor4/test
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# Disk Performance Test Results Generated By Diskperf V1.2
#
# Test name     : D9 Stone IBM HUS153030VLF400
# Test date     : Thu Apr 17 13:56:31 2014
# Test machine  : IRIX64 Cobalt 6.5 10070055 IP30
# Test type     : XFS data subvolume
# Test path     : /stor/stor4/test
# Request sizes : min=16384 max=4194304
# Parameters    : direct=1 time=10 scale=1.000 delay=0.000
# XFS file size : 4194304 bytes
#---------------------------------------------------------
# req_size  fwd_wt  fwd_rd  bwd_wt  bwd_rd  rnd_wt  rnd_rd
#  (bytes)  (MB/s)  (MB/s)  (MB/s)  (MB/s)  (MB/s)  (MB/s)
#---------------------------------------------------------
16384   17.94   49.04   11.17    4.16    9.67    7.39
32768   38.08   65.29   16.03    8.64   15.06   20.34
65536   58.71   80.96   20.11   18.32   21.76   66.04
131072   76.33   89.51   44.85   25.04   35.60   63.83
262144   88.06   94.74   41.77   38.87   53.89   86.92
524288   93.78   97.12   66.22   42.22   68.88   73.76
1048576   93.97   97.40   84.42   51.85   86.43   67.91
2097152   96.05   99.56   56.90   61.94   85.07   74.62
4194304   96.20   78.81    0.00    0.00   80.74   87.23



Not amazing by any stretch of the word but still about double what you got for top writing speed.


mia wrote: Another one for fun: (this one is work in progress)

I've replicated FC jedi's Chris Kalisiak's configuration from http://www.futuretech.blinkenlights.nl/fc.html (Ian's website):

Took a "relatively large Origin server", a netapp 14-disks (Seagate 300GB FC) lun array, and got those laughable results:

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root@plum:/mnt# diskperf -W -D -r 4k -m 4m testfile
#---------------------------------------------------------
# Disk Performance Test Results Generated By Diskperf V1.2
#
# Test name     : Unspecified
# Test date     : Thu Oct 18 15:44:29 2012
# Test machine  : IRIX64 plum 6.5 07202013 IP35
# Test type     : XFS data subvolume
# Test path     : testfile
# Request sizes : min=4096 max=4194304
# Parameters    : direct=1 time=10 scale=1.000 delay=0.000
# XFS file size : 4294967296 bytes
#---------------------------------------------------------
# req_size  fwd_wt  fwd_rd  bwd_wt  bwd_rd  rnd_wt  rnd_rd
#  (bytes)  (MB/s)  (MB/s)  (MB/s)  (MB/s)  (MB/s)  (MB/s)
#---------------------------------------------------------
4096    8.31   14.80    8.85   14.75    5.03    0.92
8192   15.24   26.80   15.12   25.85   12.91    1.78
16384   24.20   41.61   23.51   37.39   22.47    3.50
32768   32.82   52.38   33.18   44.34   23.89    5.86
65536   42.26   59.25   42.64   21.11   31.91    9.75
131072   44.83   63.53   46.15   25.68   32.12   15.08
262144   47.30   69.03   46.97   32.19   28.54   20.39
524288   46.78   69.99   39.64   41.26   37.37   22.61
1048576   45.64   70.74   41.75   43.68   39.97   34.29
2097152   41.44   74.54   42.69   49.77   39.57   40.78
4194304   45.52   72.21   38.86   59.10   40.88   48.07


At the time of the tests the load was roughly ~40% on the netapp; so I'm trying to understand where is the bottleneck, plausible causes:

- qla2342 driver?
- single channel (2Gbps) FC, not appropriate? (This netapp, while using a 2Gbps GBic is pushing only 1Gbps at most). I should trunk more ports.
- gremlins
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ClassicHasClass wrote: GREEN FOETZ
FEAR!!!!!


LOL
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Could you post some pics of the items ? That would help ! ;)
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Last valuable Thinkpad IMHO was the W520. I still use it at home. The following models (W530/540/550) all have various design flaws. Worst of all they became very fragile. I see everyday at work meetings people with W540 that are missing outer plastic parts or with the whole case flexing and squeaking. I fear any new Thinkpad won't be worth of consideration anyway.
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I had the same kind of problem with a wacom tablet. Stopped working one day. Bought a second one. Didn't work either. What was needed was just a reinstall of the driver. it's worth trying anyway. :?
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This site has been so useful to me. I'd hate to see it go or even change a bit. It feels warm and comfy as it is, please do not change anything ! 8-)

edit: Thanks Neko !
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Thing is dying... Sounds like its last gasp ! :lol:
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yetanother**ixuser wrote: wow..this happens everyday in middle east or africa, so spare me with your double standards and stop whining. thousands where slaughthered over there, and nobody gives a shit. say thank you to the "political establisment" whith there "say it loud and say it clear, terrorists are welcome here" t-shirts.


LOL
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...putting two VPRO cards in an Octane2 will automatically result in fast fan mode (aka jet-plane taking off noise level) ? Any first hand experience ? I plan to add a V10 in addition to the already-in-there V12 to drive my two monitors (Sony/SGI 24'' and 1600SW) separately, each off its own card.
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uunix wrote: Yes. It's very noisy. I think though putting anything in the lower cage will cause the fans to replicate a Harrier Jump Jet.

Saying all that, it's a noise level that is acceptable (just) unlike a 1u rack server.

BTW, good luck running that combination of monitors..


At the moment, I have a FC-AL XIO card in the lower XIO section and the thing isn't that noisy overall. I wonder if a graphic card will cause more ruckus.

I already run the same combination of monitors but it's not very practical. The 1600SW is connected to one DVI from the DCD and the 24'' CRT to the 13W3. As they have incompatible resolutions, I'm forced to launch a shell that switch video mode each time I want to use one or the other. I hope with the two cards, things will be easier...
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jan-jaap wrote: So, technically you should be safe from the infernal fastfan mode, unless the firmware is clever enough to know that the dual VPro setup is utilizing the bottom right slot space and engages fastfan anyway. Maybe ask 'mopar5150', he had one for sale recently.


That's good news. BTW, I bought the bare dual carrier from Mopar5150. ;)
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Any solution without disabling the desktop for win 7 ?
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necron2600 wrote: Also, I read somewhere online that to run Dual Vpro graphics you need to have a Dual CPU. Is this true? (I only have single CPU Octanes)


Page 53 of http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/manuals ... 93-001.pdf

The VPro Dual Head upgrade requires the following:
• IRIX 6.5.14 with patch 4426, or IRIX 6.5.15 or later (when available)
• Two CPUs
• Frontplane part number 030-0891-003 or later
• Power supply part number 060-0038-003 or late
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hamei wrote: okay, gottit


Welcome back ! 8-)
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Latest upgrade : dual VPRO carrier installed with V12+V10 and also QL2310 optical FC-AL card in PCI cage. The dual head thing worked right away without any further tinkering !
V12 drives a 1600SW and V10 a 24'' CRT.

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Cobalt 19# hinv -v
2 600 MHZ IP30 Processors
Heart ASIC: Revision F
CPU: MIPS R14000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.4
FPU: MIPS R14010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 0.0
Main memory size: 4096 Mbytes
Xbow ASIC: Revision 1.4
Instruction cache size: 32 Kbytes
Data cache size: 32 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 2 Mbytes
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version QL1040B (rev. 2), single ended
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 1)
Integral SCSI controller 1: Version QL1040B (rev. 2), single ended
CDROM: unit 2 on SCSI controller 1
Integral SCSI controller 2: Version Fibre Channel QL2310, 33 MHz PCI
Disk drive: unit 0 on SCSI controller 2 (unit 0)
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 2 (unit 1)
Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 2 (unit 2)
Disk drive: unit 3 on SCSI controller 2 (unit 3)
Disk drive: unit 4 on SCSI controller 2 (unit 4)
Disk drive: unit 5 on SCSI controller 2 (unit 5)
Disk drive: unit 6 on SCSI controller 2 (unit 6)
Disk drive: unit 7 on SCSI controller 2 (unit 7)
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty1
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty2
IOC3 parallel port: plp1
Graphics board: V12
Graphics board: V10
Integral Fast Ethernet: ef0, version 1, pci 2
Gigabit Ethernet: eg1, PCI slot 2, firmware version 12.4.10
Iris Audio Processor: version RAD revision 12.0, number 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0003) PCI slot 2
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1020) PCI slot 0
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1020) PCI slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0005) PCI slot 3
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x2300) PCI slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0009) PCI slot 2
Dual Channel Display


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Cobalt 58# /usr/gfx/gfxinfo
Graphics board 0 is "ODYSSEY" graphics.
Managed (":0.0") 1600x1024
BUZZ version B.1
PB&J version 1
128MB memory
Banks: 4, CAS latency: 3
Compositor port 0 attached to channel 0 nic 0x1004a72c
Monitor 0 type: Unknown
Dual Channel Display option
Monitor 1 type: DRB 4128        Monitor 2 type: Unknown
Channel 0:
Origin = (0,0)
Video Output: 1600 pixels, 1024 lines, 60.00Hz
(vpro_1600x1024_60-analog_mla)
Graphics board 1 is "ODYSSEY" graphics.
Managed (":0.1") 1920x1200
BUZZ version B.1
PB&J version 1
32MB memory
Banks: 2, CAS latency: 3
Monitor 0 type: Unknown
Channel 0:
Origin = (0,0)
Video Output: 1920 pixels, 1080 lines, 72.00Hz (1920x1080_72)
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uunix wrote: Nice.. are you using a modified (pins removed) DVi cable for the 1600SW to MLA?


No more special cable since I'm now using a Dr Bott SGI Saver thing instead of the SGI MLA. It works better, sync faster and doesn't need any special cable.
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ivelegacy wrote:
Jack Luminous wrote: Latest upgrade : dual VPRO carrier installed with V12+V10


why dual GFX ? specific application need ?


Yes, I wanted to drive A 1600SW and a CRT at the same time, which is not possible with a single card without switching video mode on the fly. Now the two monitors are working perfectly together at their own max res.
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Very nice !!! My Octane 2 with dual head is also named Cobalt. You copycat you !! 8-)
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I think I have an old Dell Mini 9 netbook that uses such strange Pata interface. Maybe even that same Hitachi drive.
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Thanks for the offer but I have really no need for them. I only sometimes use the poor old thing as a mp3 player in the basement. It works fine as is.
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Last week, I put an additional V10 in my Octane2. A V12/DCD was already in there. It worked right away without any additional action. For once, I guess the dual CPU is a real requirement.
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ivelegacy wrote:
Jack Luminous wrote: Last week, I put an additional V10 in my Octane2


where did you found the dual-carrier ? and how much it was ?


I bought it from Nekochan user Mopar5150 for €200 (including shipping from across the pond). Very expensive and very hard to find. I waited for one (let alone at a good price) for years so I broke my SGI piggy bank this time and be done with it. It works great ! 8-)
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I use a very similar Wacom tablet with StudioPaint. It is a great combo ! 8-)
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necron2600 wrote:
Anyone have any idea on fastfan and dual Vpro in an Octane? Maybe I missed something in my searches...

Thanks in advance,


Strange because mine is not in fastfan mode despite a V12+V10. There was a fiber channel copper in place of the V10 before and no fastfan either.
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I've been lucky on that one !! I just screwed everything together haphazardously without even thinking twice about it and I landed on the no fast-fan config... 8-)
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More like €400 usually.
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foetz wrote:
dexter1 wrote: Apparently an /etc/autoconfig -f will kick the system into making a new kernel which suits your current hardware configuration.

not what he needs. he had a unix.install already which is the result of autoconfig so all what's needed was putting the new kernel in place as correctly pointed out by hamei


Not Hamei, but Hamei's ghost. he's not here anymore yet he still influences us, mere mortals, via invisible means. :lol:
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Donated again ! Didn't catch the thing until I saw the thread today. Subsilver2 theme has the "Active Topics" link, which I'm using all the time, while prosilver theme has the donate button. I need both ! 8-)
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BTW, I bought a Dr Bott "SGI saver" some times ago and it works better than the MLA. No need for pin removal anymore as the thing supplies the right DDC info directly. Also, it displays the boot log better.
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