Nekonomicon - Nekoware-current

hamei
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Wrote the following at Aug. 16, 2006, 4:05 p.m...

schleusel wrote:

neko_cdrtools-2.01.01a11.tardist Joerg Schilling's CD/DVD writing tools.

neko_xcdroast-0.98alpha15.tardist GUI frontend for the cdrtools.

neko_cdrdao-1.2.1.tardist disk-at-once cd-copying/recording tool

schleusel, you be da man a da week ! I'll try these out saturday for sure, merci beaucoups !!

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Wrote the following at Aug. 16, 2006, 5:52 p.m...

I put the dvdrtools package in and am more than happy to see it become obsolete. Nice work, schleusel! I'll try the CD-R capability tomorrow morning.

Thank you.

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Wrote the following at Aug. 16, 2006, 7:46 p.m...

schleusel wrote:

neko_xcdroast-0.98alpha15.tardist GUI frontend for the cdrtools.

Hello Schleusel, what is the package/release for neko_gdk_pixbuf.sw.lib which you're actually using as dependency on neko_xcdroast-0.98alpha15.tardist? ...It seems that I can't find the right tardist here.
Thanks a lot by your nice work, regards,
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Wrote the following at Aug. 17, 2006, 12:16 a.m...

GeneratriX wrote:

Hello Schleusel, what is the package/release for neko_gdk_pixbuf.sw.lib which you're actually using as dependency on neko_xcdroast-0.98alpha15.tardist? ...It seems that I can't find the right tardist here.

oups, sorry, i fixed that prereq now.. I should finally learn not to keep package versions installed that never got uploaded :-)

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Wrote the following at Aug. 17, 2006, 12:22 a.m...

schleusel wrote:

GeneratriX wrote:

Hello Schleusel, what is the package/release for neko_gdk_pixbuf.sw.lib which you're actually using as dependency on neko_xcdroast-0.98alpha15.tardist? ...It seems that I can't find the right tardist here.

oups, sorry, i fixed that prereq now.. I should finally learn not to keep package versions installed that never got uploaded :-)

Oh, thanks a lot Timo!; now everything has sense again. I was browsing fast to find these package!

...I'll download the new package to try again. What should be the first server having it uploaded?
Regards,
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schleusel
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Wrote the following at Aug. 17, 2006, 12:39 a.m...

GeneratriX wrote:

I'll download the new package to try again. What should be the first server having it uploaded?

it is on nekochan already. The first mirror to have it will likeley be dexter's (tudelft.nl). All the other mirrors sync off that one i think. Not sure how often dexter syncs currently.. twice a day?

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Wrote the following at Aug. 17, 2006, 1:17 a.m...

schleusel wrote:

GeneratriX wrote:

I'll download the new package to try again. What should be the first server having it uploaded?

it is on nekochan already. The first mirror to have it will likeley be dexter's (tudelft.nl). All the other mirrors sync off that one i think. Not sure how often dexter syncs currently.. twice a day?

Cool!; thanks again by the nice stuff to work! Greetz,
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Wrote the following at Aug. 17, 2006, 6:55 a.m...

Not wanting to miss out on the renaissance in nekoware upgrades I put together the following 2-12's

neko_glib-2.12.2
neko_gimp-2.2.12

The glib rebuild fixes my long standing problem with GIMP (ie. I couldn't load any files with a memory error, in fact I couldn't even build GIMP until I replaced glib).
They're in /beta. Please give them a whirl.

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Wrote the following at Aug. 17, 2006, 9:26 a.m...

squeen wrote:

Not wanting to miss out on the renaissance in nekoware upgrades I put together the following 2-12's

neko_glib-2.12.2
neko_gimp-2.2.12

The glib rebuild fixes my long standing problem with GIMP (ie. I couldn't load any files with a memory error, in fact I couldn't even build GIMP until I replaced glib).
They're in /beta. Please give them a whirl.

Cool! Only issue I can see off the bat is that none of the prereqs are taken into account for the GIMP plugins in /usr/nekoware/lib/gimp/2.0/* - let's take one at random:

Code:

  [Mai:gimp/2.0/plug-ins] neko 16# ldd ./tiff
  
  libgimpui-2.0.so.1  =>   /usr/nekoware/lib/libgimpui-2.0.so.1
  
  libgimp-2.0.so.1  =>     /usr/nekoware/lib/libgimp-2.0.so.1
  
  libgimpwidgets-2.0.so.1  =>      /usr/nekoware/lib/libgimpwidgets-2.0.so.1
  
  libgimpmodule-2.0.so.1  =>       /usr/nekoware/lib/libgimpmodule-2.0.so.1
  
  libgimpcolor-2.0.so.1  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/libgimpcolor-2.0.so.1
  
  libgimpbase-2.0.so.1  =>         /usr/nekoware/lib/libgimpbase-2.0.so.1
  
  libtiff.so.3  =>         /usr/nekoware/lib/libtiff.so.3
  
  libjpeg.so  =>   /usr/nekoware/lib/libjpeg.so
  
  libgtk-x11-2.0.so.1  =>  /usr/nekoware/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.1
  
  libgdk-x11-2.0.so.1  =>  /usr/nekoware/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.1
  
  libatk-1.0.so.1  =>      /usr/nekoware/lib/libatk-1.0.so.1
  
  libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.1  =>       /usr/nekoware/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.1
  
  libpangocairo-1.0.so.1  =>       /usr/nekoware/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.1
  
  libpangoft2-1.0.so.1  =>         /usr/nekoware/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.1
  
  libpango-1.0.so.1  =>    /usr/nekoware/lib/libpango-1.0.so.1
  
  libcairo.so.3  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/libcairo.so.3
  
  libpixman.so.1  =>       /usr/nekoware/lib/libpixman.so.1
  
  libXrender.so.1  =>      /usr/nekoware/lib/libXrender.so.1
  
  libX11.so.1  =>  /usr/lib32/libX11.so.1
  
  libpng12.so.0  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/libpng12.so.0
  
  libglitz.so.2  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/libglitz.so.2
  
  libfontconfig.so.2  =>   /usr/nekoware/lib/libfontconfig.so.2
  
  libexpat.so.1  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/libexpat.so.1
  
  libfreetype.so.7  =>     /usr/nekoware/lib/libfreetype.so.7
  
  libz.so  =>      /usr/nekoware/lib/libz.so
  
  libm.so  =>      /usr/lib32/libm.so
  
  libgobject-2.0.so.1  =>  /usr/nekoware/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.1
  
  libgmodule-2.0.so.1  =>  /usr/nekoware/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.1
  
  libglib-2.0.so.1  =>     /usr/nekoware/lib/libglib-2.0.so.1
  
  libintl.so.4  =>         /usr/nekoware/lib/libintl.so.4
  
  libiconv.so.3  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/libiconv.so.3
  
  libc.so.1  =>    /usr/lib32/libc.so.1
  
  libCsup.so  =>   /usr/lib32/libCsup.so
  
  libC.so.2  =>    /usr/lib32/libC.so.2
  
  libCio.so.1  =>  /usr/lib32/libCio.so.1
  
  libXext.so  =>   /usr/lib32/libXext.so

Granted, some of those are recursive but there's a lot more there than the package is allowing for at present

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joerg
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Wrote the following at Aug. 17, 2006, 11:24 a.m...

At least the following is needed

Code:

  [o2k]:/usr/nekoware/lib/gimp/2.0 $ ~root/nekotool.php -l ./
  
  Found 10 files under ./.
  
  Investigating 32 *.so libs
  
  Investigating 20 subimages
  
  prereq (
  
  neko_atk.sw.lib 4 maxint
  
  neko_cairo.sw.lib 4 maxint
  
  neko_expat.sw.lib 3 maxint
  
  neko_fontconfig.sw.lib 3 maxint
  
  neko_freetype2.sw.lib 3 maxint
  
  neko_gettext.sw.lib 2 maxint
  
  neko_gimp.sw.lib 5 maxint
  
  neko_glib.sw.lib 7 maxint
  
  neko_glitz.sw.lib 2 maxint
  
  neko_gtk.sw.lib 6 maxint
  
  neko_lcms.sw.lib 114 maxint
  
  neko_libiconv.sw.lib 2 maxint
  
  neko_libpixman.sw.lib 2 maxint
  
  neko_libpng.sw.lib 3 maxint
  
  neko_libxrender.sw.lib 2 maxint
  
  neko_pango.sw.lib 7 maxint
  
  neko_zlib.sw.lib 6 maxint
  
  )

These are only the libs. Also needed is python and maybe perl?.

Oh. i have take a look to the spec file. From my point of few some more is missing. The neko_gimp.sw.eoe need also "neko_gimp.sw.lib 5 maxint" as a dependancy, otherwise someone 'can' install the binaries without the needed libs.

Code:

  [o2k]:/usr/nekoware/lib/gimp $ cp /usr/nekoware/bin/gimp /tmp/gimp/
  
  [o2k]:/usr/nekoware/lib/gimp $ ~root/nekotool.php -b /tmp/gimp/
  
  Found 1 files under /tmp/gimp/.
  
  Investigating 32 *.so libs
  
  Investigating 20 subimages
  
  prereq (
  
  neko_atk.sw.lib 4 maxint
  
  neko_cairo.sw.lib 4 maxint
  
  neko_expat.sw.lib 3 maxint
  
  neko_fontconfig.sw.lib 3 maxint
  
  neko_freetype2.sw.lib 3 maxint
  
  neko_gettext.sw.lib 2 maxint
  
  neko_gimp.sw.lib 5 maxint
  
  neko_glib.sw.lib 7 maxint
  
  neko_glitz.sw.lib 2 maxint
  
  neko_gtk.sw.lib 6 maxint
  
  neko_libart.sw.lib 2 maxint
  
  neko_libiconv.sw.lib 2 maxint
  
  neko_libpixman.sw.lib 2 maxint
  
  neko_libpng.sw.lib 3 maxint
  
  neko_libxrender.sw.lib 2 maxint
  
  neko_pango.sw.lib 7 maxint
  
  neko_zlib.sw.lib 6 maxint
  
  )

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I never could get nekotool to work here - just complains about improper usage of grep :/

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Wrote the following at Aug. 17, 2006, 12:43 p.m...

nekonoko wrote:

I never could get nekotool to work here - just complains about improper usage of grep :/

Its my nekotool. php :). I hacked some php for a easier living :)

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Wrote the following at Aug. 17, 2006, 1:32 p.m...

nekonoko wrote:

Cool! Only issue I can see off the bat is that none of the prereqs are taken into account for the GIMP plugins in /usr/nekoware/lib/gimp/2.0/* - let's take one at random:

Code:

   [Mai:gimp/2.0/plug-ins] neko 16# ldd ./tiff
   
   libgimpui-2.0.so.1  =>   /usr/nekoware/lib/libgimpui-2.0.so.1
   
   libgimp-2.0.so.1  =>     /usr/nekoware/lib/libgimp-2.0.so.1
   
   libgimpwidgets-2.0.so.1  =>      /usr/nekoware/lib/libgimpwidgets-2.0.so.1
   
   libgimpmodule-2.0.so.1  =>       /usr/nekoware/lib/libgimpmodule-2.0.so.1
   
   libgimpcolor-2.0.so.1  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/libgimpcolor-2.0.so.1
   
   libgimpbase-2.0.so.1  =>         /usr/nekoware/lib/libgimpbase-2.0.so.1
   
   libtiff.so.3  =>         /usr/nekoware/lib/libtiff.so.3
   
   libjpeg.so  =>   /usr/nekoware/lib/libjpeg.so
   
   libgtk-x11-2.0.so.1  =>  /usr/nekoware/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.1
   
   libgdk-x11-2.0.so.1  =>  /usr/nekoware/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.1
   
   libatk-1.0.so.1  =>      /usr/nekoware/lib/libatk-1.0.so.1
   
   libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.1  =>       /usr/nekoware/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.1
   
   libpangocairo-1.0.so.1  =>       /usr/nekoware/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.1
   
   libpangoft2-1.0.so.1  =>         /usr/nekoware/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.1
   
   libpango-1.0.so.1  =>    /usr/nekoware/lib/libpango-1.0.so.1
   
   libcairo.so.3  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/libcairo.so.3
   
   libpixman.so.1  =>       /usr/nekoware/lib/libpixman.so.1
   
   libXrender.so.1  =>      /usr/nekoware/lib/libXrender.so.1
   
   libX11.so.1  =>  /usr/lib32/libX11.so.1
   
   libpng12.so.0  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/libpng12.so.0
   
   libglitz.so.2  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/libglitz.so.2
   
   libfontconfig.so.2  =>   /usr/nekoware/lib/libfontconfig.so.2
   
   libexpat.so.1  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/libexpat.so.1
   
   libfreetype.so.7  =>     /usr/nekoware/lib/libfreetype.so.7
   
   libz.so  =>      /usr/nekoware/lib/libz.so
   
   libm.so  =>      /usr/lib32/libm.so
   
   libgobject-2.0.so.1  =>  /usr/nekoware/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.1
   
   libgmodule-2.0.so.1  =>  /usr/nekoware/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.1
   
   libglib-2.0.so.1  =>     /usr/nekoware/lib/libglib-2.0.so.1
   
   libintl.so.4  =>         /usr/nekoware/lib/libintl.so.4
   
   libiconv.so.3  =>        /usr/nekoware/lib/libiconv.so.3
   
   libc.so.1  =>    /usr/lib32/libc.so.1
   
   libCsup.so  =>   /usr/lib32/libCsup.so
   
   libC.so.2  =>    /usr/lib32/libC.so.2
   
   libCio.so.1  =>  /usr/lib32/libCio.so.1
   
   libXext.so  =>   /usr/lib32/libXext.so

Granted, some of those are recursive but there's a lot more there than the package is allowing for at present

Believe it or not, with maybe the exception of pixmap/glitz, all those are in or prereq's of neko_gtk. (BTW, the last packing had no prereq's listed

)
Perhaps other plugins are different. I'll take a look next week.

EDIT:

I resisted listing perl/python since the package will function without plugins or scripting. Again, same as last 4 versions. Also, the self dependacies is something I also had never added before and purposly left out in the first nekoware issue (but thought I had added in this case...hmmm...probably forgot the apply button inn swpkg!).

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Wrote the following at Aug. 18, 2006, 1:42 a.m...

squeen wrote:

I resisted listing perl/python since the package will function without plugins or scripting.

isn't it possible to package the plugins in neko_gimp.sw.plugins and then do let that one have the dependencies on perl & python?

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Wrote the following at Aug. 18, 2006, 2:45 a.m...

Squeen, please tell me that you only have forget to add the missing preqs in this package and maybe others. Dont say this is your prefered way for handling preqs.

If youe apps neko_foobar have a dep to neko_foo and neko_bar and you only add neko_foo to the deps because neko_foo already have a dep to neko_bar this isnt the right way.

If your neko_foo is a older package it might be possible that its also referering to lower version of the package as your current application neko_bar is link against.

whiter wrote:

squeen wrote:

I resisted listing perl/python since the package will function without plugins or scripting.

isn't it possible to package the plugins in neko_gimp.sw.plugins and then do let that one have the dependencies on perl & python?

Sounds like a good idea but next questions is make it sence to mark this package as a default one. Also a questions how usabe gimp comes without these plugins.

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Wrote the following at Aug. 18, 2006, 8:16 a.m...

squeen wrote:

Not wanting to miss out on the renaissance in nekoware upgrades I put together the following 2-12's

neko_glib-2.12.2
neko_gimp-2.2.12

The glib rebuild fixes my long standing problem with GIMP (ie. I couldn't load any files with a memory error, in fact I couldn't even build GIMP until I replaced glib).
They're in /beta. Please give them a whirl.

That's strange, I never got the memory error before.

Just installed glib-2.12.2 and am now get the memory error (cannot load any files). I also get the memory error in foetz's gimp-2.2.12 build with this new glib.

Reverting back to glib-2.8.4 fixed the problems.

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Wrote the following at Aug. 18, 2006, 1:11 p.m...

thunng8 wrote:

That's strange, I never got the memory error before.

Just installed glib-2.12.2 and am now get the memory error (cannot load any files). I also get the memory error in foetz's gimp-2.2.12 build with this new glib.

Reverting back to glib-2.8.4 fixed the problems.

I was wondering why more folks weren't complaining about the GIMP being broken. I have 2 systems (an Octane and Tezro) runing 6.5.29 that had the same memory error problem. What version of OS are you using? Again, I'm wondering if a serious incompatability exists!?! Oh, also I'm compiling with 7.4.4m. Anyone else with and experience to share?

@joerg: About prereqs: If an app as a prereq of GTK like the GIMP does, I do not feel it is a good idea to add all of GTK's prereq's to the GIMP. That's the way all the original nekoware wer packaged.

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Wrote the following at Aug. 18, 2006, 1:19 p.m...

squeen wrote:

@joerg: About prereqs: If an app as a prereq of GTK like the GIMP does, I do not feel it is a good idea to add all of GTK's prereq's to the GIMP. That's the way all the original nekoware wer packaged.

Haeh?
All libs which are shown from a ldd foo.so have to be in the prereqs. No more and no less. Thats the way how sgis swpkg works and i hope the most of our packages used it in this ways.

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Wrote the following at Aug. 18, 2006, 1:35 p.m...

squeen wrote:

I was wondering why more folks weren't complaining about the GIMP being broken. I have 2 systems (an Octane and Tezro) runing 6.5.29 that had the same memory error problem. What version of OS are you using? Again, I'm wondering if a serious incompatability exists!?! Oh, also I'm compiling with 7.4.4m. Anyone else with and experience to share?

I had the same issue ages ago with an older glib/gimp combination. It appeared after i updated my ex-Octane from EMXI to V6 and hence updating parts of the os installation. Thinking the update simply wasn't perfectly complete i took the safe route and did an 'install same' of the complete os installation. That fixed it.. looking back i'm beginning to think this could be the rqs issue, chervarium covered again lately: http://forums.nekochan.net/viewtopic.php?t=10959

The current build works great for me so far, thanks :-)

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@joerg: About prereqs: If an app as a prereq of GTK like the GIMP does, I do not feel it is a good idea to add all of GTK's prereq's to the GIMP. That's the way all the original nekoware wer packaged.

i'm seriously prefering the route of adding all linked shared libs as direct prereqs. The above way of indirect prereqs will always be less robust (and more error-prone) unless you make sure the package you inherit the prereqs from really has the currently installed package of the .so in question as prereq (and not some older package version)..

And isn't actually a lot more work to separate all indirect prereqs that way too?

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Wrote the following at Aug. 18, 2006, 1:44 p.m...

squeen wrote:

thunng8 wrote:

That's strange, I never got the memory error before.

Just installed glib-2.12.2 and am now get the memory error (cannot load any files). I also get the memory error in foetz's gimp-2.2.12 build with this new glib.

Reverting back to glib-2.8.4 fixed the problems.

I was wondering why more folks weren't complaining about the GIMP being broken. I have 2 systems (an Octane and Tezro) runing 6.5.29 that had the same memory error problem. What version of OS are you using? Again, I'm wondering if a serious incompatability exists!?! Oh, also I'm compiling with 7.4.4m. Anyone else with and experience to share?

I haven't had any problems with GIMP (that I can see anyway) - I also have your new glib installed with no visible issues. IRIX 6.5.29 on a Fuel here.

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