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I think the consensus is yes then!!... I think all you have to look out for is the Sync On Green capability of the display. Most of the entry level cheap displays don't support it, but any half decent one should.. I use Viewsonic VP series displays no problem, or LG L2000C which is the same as the SGI monitor just without the premium badge....

You could also check to see if its the 1.5V VRM that is the problem by moving it from module 1 to module 2. It's the smaller VRM located in the white socket on the board P/N 060-0127-00x. If you swap from the different modules and the problem moves to the other module that would be a good starting point.

Regards the L1 controller message, it's because you have updated IRIX on the system from the original shipped with it, but not a big deal, there should be some extra features in later versions, but what they are I can't tell. There is a command to flash the l1 from within IRIX, but this is done at your own risk and normal rules apply such as not powering off :



That would update all L1's in the system. You can just use r.s where r = rack and s = slot for individual L1's. ie. : &


I have had 1 problem using this method where going from very early L1 (1.10.2)version to very new version (1.54.0) I had a problem with a "UNKNOWN BRICK TYPE" message on the L1 and the brick could not be reset to brick type C. Unfortunately that problem is still outstanding......

I think also, if it's causing you a real pain by it shutting down frequently you could probably turn the environmental settings off on the L1 (env off I think). But this is not a good long term solution as you obviously have a problem with the system that needs fixing.

Good luck with your troubleshooting anyhow.

The frustrating thing was also that some of the very early bricks shipped with this Security feature disabled, but this was automatically enabled if you updated the firmware on the L1 (which most people did when firmware updates were released by SGI ie with IRIX updates), only to find they had nobbled the machine unexpectedly.

If there is anyone out there with old versions of L1's that are still running the PROM version that was current in IRIX 6.5.13 say (l1 revision less than 1.3 something I think), I know some people that would pay very good money for them

But have you ever actually got graphics working? Because as well as the physical issues you mention regarding screws, & difference in XIO carrier, the midplane and power board in a X-brick do not support the power required for Vpro boards (24-Vdc) - the X-brick only supports 2.5-Vdc, 3.3-Vdc and 5.0-Vdc.

Now if you have found a way to make them work I would sure love to know about it, as I have all the parts required to make a nice box with V12 graphics in it!

tjsgifan.

OK fair enough. There's nothing in any SGI documentation I have that shows the X-brick as a working option for the O300. As has been commented elsewhere, the expansion bricks for O300's were limited to :

Router (AKA NUMAlink module) for connecting multiple O300 class modules together)
PCI expansion (AKA PCI expansion module, NOT P-Brick which is for O3000 series)
Storage (TP900 8-bay SCSI brick)

Although I believe Dr Dave has also added a G-brick to the list too......

And that's it. I think.

tjsgifan.

That rocks, good luck with pairing them up and with the hunt for graphics. You should be able to get a G-brick from an Onyx 3000 attached to it for graphics, or a V-brick if you can find one. It would be good to see how the CPU's perform on some of the benchmarks here. I just did Ian's Blender http://www.futuretech.blinkenlights.nl/blender.html benchmark on 8 CPU 500Mhz Origin 3200 (With V-brick) and got it to 61 seconds. I reckon that you might be able to shave a few seconds off that with the additional cache you have (But fewer CPU's). But then again, you've not got graphics yet, so we'll see......

Good luck though!

So 800Mhz = 400Mhz L2.

and as Ian says :



So 1Ghz = 333Mhz L2.

bri3d wrote:

JacquesT wrote: I believe the Fuel V12 won't work in the Octane XIO slots. But I could be wrong...but think not!

You're right. The Fuel V12 also doesn't just "work" in Origin 3xxx or 350 - even with an XIO brick. You need a special (and unbelievably rare) InfinitePerformace V-Brick to use it with these systems.

So basically the Fuel V12 is for Fuel, and not much else.

This statement isn't quite accurate - there is the Onyx 350 InfinitePerformance system that has a V12 card installed in it. This is a standard O350 chassis, nothing super special about it.

The V-bricks were really for O3000 series systems, originally intended as a cheap alternative to a G-brick they are in very very short supply now, meaning they cost far more than a G-brick.

Back to the V12 card though, I'm not sure if the Fuel V12 the original poster has will just fit the O350 chassis and turn it into a IP system - there is a O350 IP on Ebay.de at the moment and the board number for the V12 is 030-1909-003 which doesnt show up in any Fuel HINV's out in the wild, so i'm guessing it is unique.

The V12's in the V-brick I have are a different number again though.

I'm almost tempted to buy one now to see if it will go in a O350 Onyx I have, currently running an IR4 brick.... might be worth a go as I barely turn it on these days, G-bricks do like to suck up the power!

OK I'll open up my O350. It has a DM3 board installed in one of the units where the V12 is shown in the system above, but the 2nd module has a 2nd fan unit installed which should be removable. I'll take some photo's too as it would be interesting to see the backplane connection, I would have assumed there would be something different for the fan unit, but I've never looked that close.

In my system (which I have now got some photos of) the DM3 board has it's own cooling fan attached underneath, which is the same I guess as the one used in the graphics option.

Photos added to gallery : http://www.nekochan.net/gallery2/v/SGI_Photos/album126/beaker/

Hi All,

I have been searching the forum before flashing the L1 on a new IO8 board as I know of some issues that others have incurred, but I could not find either a definitive answer or a source for the recommended file. So, I thought having a new post on the subject might help future upgraders as well.

I have an Origin 300 system which uses an L1 controller (located on the IO8 board). It is currently using firmware version 1.18.1. I wanted to bring up to date, to match the other systems it will be connected too - they are using L1 firmware version 1.44.0 (Found in IRIX 6.5.30). According to another previous post http://forums.nekochan.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13363 if running a version prior to 1.22.6 (Although I think this might be 1.22.2 having extracted the images) you should flash to this version first, then flash to the later version afterwards.

I've gone through the IRIX CD's to hand to make this reference page.

You'll find the images located within the "Standalone System Controller Environment" on your overlay CD



Update :
I did find this slightly confusing in practice. It turns out that the flashsc (System Controller Flash Utility) also has changes in it's life. I found eventually that the flashsc version 1.07 that came with 6.5.21 was good enough to use to flash any of the L1 PROM images from 1.22.2 until 1.32.6, but it was not suitable to flash the 1.38.4 or 1.44.0. You would get the following message :



Likewise, if you try using the latest flashsc utility version 1.4.1 found in IRIX 6.5.30 to flash an older version of firmware (certainly prior to 1.26.5) it would just print the first 2 lines of output and then stop - I had to CTRL+C to get back to a prompt. So you need to downgrade the flashsc utility to an older version, perform updates to mid life versions, then upgrade the flashsc utility in order to flash the l1 to version 1.44.0.

So now I have a 6.5.21 disk on the shelf with copies of all the l1.bin images I've extraced apart from 1.38.4 and 1.44.0 which I use - initially flashing the l1 not in use to 1.22.2, then once restarted the system using the newly flashed 1.22.2 image, i bring the other flash image upto 1.32.6. I then shut the machine down, swap the 6.5.21 build with a 6.5.30 build and bring the machine up again, flashing the 1.22.2 image upto 1.44 I'll try .0.

I'm guessing I could probably skip the 1.32.6 update, and just run the 1.44.0 update from the machine when booting from the 1.22.0 image? I'll try that next time....

Oh well, good learning excercise anyhow.


tjsgifan

But in case anyone does want one, I have a good condition front door for one sitting here gathering dust (Not to mention 2 x 733Mhz CPU's, 2Gb RAM and a PSU) that I pulled out of a system I broke up a while back.

I know this is an old post, but to save anyone else making the same mistakes..... from being too keen to update firmware I thought I should post this. SGI did test this sort of situation out before releasing updates and I think somewhere there is a release note that says don't jump straight from IRIX 6.5.11 or similar to 6.5.30 for a number of reasons....

If you have an older series Fuel that gives you these "firmware too old" messages, simply do a flashsc update to a mid life version such as 1.22.0 found in IRIX 6.5.21, followed by another update to 1.44.0 found in 6.5.30.

This avoids the problems mentioned above and would stop people incorrectly bad mouthing SGI's tech guy's.

I have plenty of Fuel systems that run 030-1707-003 motherboards, originally running very old f/w successfully running 1.44.0, it just needs some patience and 5 minutes of your time to check the procedure before running it.

Hope this helps anyhow.

leaknoil wrote: I found a stack of 350's at a electronics surplus place but, all the power supplies were removed. More stuff may be removed but, if I can't find the power supplies no point in going further. They may be somewhere around but, I am not sure what to look for. The line drawings around are not specific enough to stand out in shelves full of power supplies.

Anyone able to provide a picture of one removed from the system or better than me finding one on Google ?

Sorry I have a feeling I bought all those power supplys from the seller - I didn't want the Altix systems as I have loads already, just wanted the PSU's for upgrade purposes and shipping 8 PSU's was far cheaper than 8 Altix systems.

I have 40+ DTP63692B 2GB DIMMs for sale if anyone wants to make me an offer.

And 70+ 512Mb DIMMs part number M312L6423EGO too.

All removed from a working Altix 350

I also have a load of 1.6Ghz 6Mb cache Itanium CPU's if you want and the power boards if needed.

Might have some others in some chassis I've not looked at for a while.... think we have a complete rack of 350's still in storage, not been switched on for a year and have been robbed of PSU's...

In case anyone in the USA is still looking for a V12 for there Fuel, there is a low cost system :

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SGI-Silicon-Gra ... 485e4b9986

which has a V12 in it (Although description is missing, the part number 030-1726-003 relates to a V12 card).

500Mhz / 2Gb RAM and older revision PSU so expect some funny noises, but looks like a runner.

PS. No it's not mine, just thought the info would be useful.