I searched google for the words "sunfreeware" and "mirror", and several ftp sites appeared on
the first page of results
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The collected works of josehill - Page 9
Oskar45 wrote:If that's so, just why was it necessary to give the explicit forum rule, "No politics, please"? You might as well remove that rule as superflous. When things in said area go out of hand, someone of you will come as a son of God and lock us anyhowHakimoto wrote: Self-moderation is the buzzword indeed. When things go out of hand, be sure that one of us will come and lock y'all down.
We mighty moderators prefer to observe the foibles of Nekochanners from our idle and idyllic Olympian heights - deriving great entertainment from doing so - while being fed grapes by virgins and strumming our harps. It disrupts our reveries to be called upon by the Factions and the Multitudes to Smite the Wicked. While a good, righteous smiting occasionally brings pleasure to even the most pacific among us, it inevitably leads to the formation of new sects, to the building of new temples, and to the razing of old ones. Oh, and also the gnashing of teeth. Can't I just enjoy a cool grape on a hot summer afternoon?
Would manually downloading the 10.3.9 combo updater be a sufficient workaround?
http://support.apple.com/downloads/Mac_ ... ate_10_3_9
(Sorry I can't be of greater assistance. It's been a long time since I last ran Panther.)
(Sorry I can't be of greater assistance. It's been a long time since I last ran Panther.)
jirka wrote:
I finally downloaded combo updates and installed them manually step by step (10.3.5->10.3.6, 10.3.6->10.3.7 and so on).
Was there a particular reason why you chose not to run the single step 10.3.0 -> 10.3.9 combo update?
guardian452 wrote: I like 4/4 time. and 3/4 and 7/8. none of this 17/19 stuff...
C'mon, man. Most of Yes' biggest dance hits were in 13/8!
pentium wrote:
Well that works in terms of updating but that does not load the rest of the updates and thus I'm not sure if I can perform the migration cleanly.
My thinking was that perhaps getting to 10.3.9 might clear whatever problem was generating the -1001 error, and that any secondary updates (like Quicktime, iTunes, security updates) that might be needed would be downloadable after that. Keep in mind, though, that some of the secondary updates probably are included in the 10.3.9 combo updater. If the 10.3.9 update clears the error, then any secondary updates should subsequently download independently.
Do you get a -1001 error if you run software update on the command line (analogous to using "inst" vs "swmgr" in IRIX, e.g. by using "softwareupdate -l" or "softwareupdate -d")? For example, if the problem is something with the downloading process itself, "softwareupdate -l" should still tell you what updates you need, and then you would be able to download them manually.
Another idea: are you using a wireless connection? Try disabling Airport and using an ethernet connection instead.
I just went poking around the Panther forum over at Apple Support, and it looks like a bunch of people have been running into this recently. Maybe Apple quietly discontinued automatic updates for Panther, or perhaps the Panther update server broke, and no one at Apple has noticed yet.
https://discussions.apple.com/community ... nd_earlier
pentium wrote:
Well ball, that confirms my suspicion that Apple is cutting off people from updating their older systems.
Well I'll just have to figure out how to do imaging.
Well I'll just have to figure out how to do imaging.
Well, they can still update, but they have to download the updates manually. Inconvenient, sure, but it's not closing the door. You can still download System 6, after all. If you use the cumulative (aka "Combo") updaters, it's not too horrible.
That said, if the hardware is the same, re-imaging is usually faster than running a fresh install, reloading your apps, and patching stuff.
Probably the fastest way to create an image from an old iBook is to use either Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper on a fast Mac, with the iBook connected in Firewire Target Mode, assuming that it's a Firewire Mac, of course. Both support block level imaging and incremental imaging, and both have good documentation. You can also run those tools under Panther, if you find older versions of them. You can also use Apple's Disk Utility to make an image, but it usually takes a little longer to run and has fewer options. Also, you can't use Apple's Disk Utility to clone the boot drive, so you'd need to run it from either an OS X installation CD or by booting from another disk.
frankblues wrote: Social networking for the most part is crap. I think the signal to noise ratio in my twitter feed is maybe 0.5%. Same with my RSS reader. The inherent difference between the monkeys and the twitters is distance. I can read what the concerns are from someone half way around the world... that ease of access (relatively speaking) is new.
...and filters. Using search tools and feed filters, you can bump up the S/N fairly significantly. There is something universal in this. I'm in the healthcare/life sciences field, and the early days of twitter were pretty great. Very high signal to noise; direct access to very smart people who are thinking interesting thoughts - and real conversations with such people. Kind of like the early days of email and Usenet. In the same way, the channel eventually became swamped with spam and other marketing bs, along with superficialities about celebrities and hormonally-driven phenomena.
No doubt that a few hundred years from now, we will be paying for tools to filter out messages like "Xoraxia392's Scandalous Mind Meld with the Cynerian Ambassador Exposes Her Surgically Enhanced Insectoid Ovipositor!" from the subspace feed into our cranial implants.
pentium wrote:
I'm trying the disk utility method but the destination drive just idles and eventually spins down after a while.
You might try to disable sleep, both for the computer and for the drives. It might also make sense to try doing a block copy with Carbon Copy Cloner. It will still take a while (hours, with verification), but it does go a bit faster than the Disk Utility method. The main disadvantage is that you would need to use Firewire target mode and boot from another Mac.
robespierre wrote:
I remember using hdiutil(1) and asr(8) [Apple Software Restore] to create backup images of disks and restore them when I upgraded to larger disks in my powerbooks. The process wasn't entirely obvious, because asr needs to "add file checksums" to the image before you restore it. (Maybe this step was really optional but it seemed like a good idea). So the image file needed to be in a particular [uncompressed] format until checksums were added. I think it took about an hour to image a 100GB disk and restore it into a 300GB.
Carbon Copy Cloner is basically a gui shell that invokes those commands, or maybe "ditto", too. I had a bookmark to a page where the CCC folks went into detail regarding the exact command lines that were used, but they've reorganized their site, and now I can't find it any more. Maybe the info is still out there, but I don't have the time to go sleuthing today.
GL1zdA wrote:kramlq wrote: ... from NeXT specialists http://www.blackholeinc.com/
With worst webmasters I've ever seen. Their HTML/Webdesign skills are an insult to NeXT...
Keep in mind that their target users are NeXT enthusiasts. The current web browser situation on NeXT is even worse than it is on IRIX! Black Hole's website is pushing the limits of what a NeXT web browser can handle.
hamei wrote: It's not absolutely necessary to have all that modern crap, jose. They could do a plain-jane html site and make it attractive and work well.
Don't make me break out the blink tags! I will use them! I don't care who gets hurt!!!
Okay, that hurt. MS Word 12? Jeez...
You guys win.
Crap. All this time, maybe Hamei really has been right about everything. Everything!
I was supposed to head to NYC tomorrow to hobnob with some tech investor types. I think I'm going to stock up on canned goods instead.
You guys win.
Crap. All this time, maybe Hamei really has been right about everything. Everything!
I was supposed to head to NYC tomorrow to hobnob with some tech investor types. I think I'm going to stock up on canned goods instead.
Martin Steen wrote: I wonder what Operating System Tim Berners-Lee would use today.
He is often seen using a Mac laptop.
Not sure what your definition of UNIX is, hamei, but even
Mountain Lion is certified as meeting v3 of the the UNIX specification
.
I don't like all of the changes in the last couple of OS X releases, particularly with GUI, and I'm not too keen on some of Apple's feature decisions and support policies, but I can still do everything that I really want to do with it, especially on the command line.
Also, when I sit down in front of my NeXTstation Turbo, it's clear that the current MacOS still has a lot of NeXT DNA, even after undergoing UI iOS'ification in the latest releases.
I don't like all of the changes in the last couple of OS X releases, particularly with GUI, and I'm not too keen on some of Apple's feature decisions and support policies, but I can still do everything that I really want to do with it, especially on the command line.
Also, when I sit down in front of my NeXTstation Turbo, it's clear that the current MacOS still has a lot of NeXT DNA, even after undergoing UI iOS'ification in the latest releases.
Like I said, I'm not a fan of everything that Apple has been doing, and the scroll bars are good examples. You can turn them on, but it does seem to be a step backwards, imho. And don't get me started on that skeuomorphic crap in Calendar and Contacts! It almost drove me back to pen and paper!SAQ wrote: I couldn't believe it when I sat down at the first Mac I'd used running Lion and found out that they decided to hide the scroll bars now. They sell 27" iMacs - there's enough real estate for a scroll bar in there. Perhaps back in the days of the 9" Mac Plus it might have made sense - and now all the "me too" guys are doing it as well.
Now that Windows 8 has gone to manufacturing, it'll be interesting to see how quickly it's adopted. I've been using the various previews, and you can add me to the list of people who think the addition of Metro to the desktop system is half-baked, at best, or downright disastrous, at worst. Too bad, really. Win7 seems like the release where MS finally got Windows "right," and Win8 feels like someone has been hitting the hallucinogens. I expect that businesses will stick with Win7 as long as possible.SAQ wrote: It would be interesting to hear from all the professional UI people on here about the tabletization of everything. It seems to me that forcing the (WIMP-y) PC into the (tile-y) tablet world is the same mistake in reverse that the early tablet people made of trying to make it WIMP-y (think Windows CE).
As for the Apple side of things, I think the most insightful remark about it came at the end of the latest John Siracusa review of OS X over at Ars Technica: "Apple's online platform is the unifying force in its product line, not any one OS. Think of Mountain Lion as the best desktop iCloud client Apple knows how to make." One may argue about whether Apple's online platform should be the unifying force in its product line, but I do think that iCloud'ification is really what is happening to OS X, rather than simply tablet'ification. My own opinion for several years has been that Apple is trying to create the equivalent of the Star Trek environment, where you can walk up to any device, start talking to it, and get what you need from Majel Barrett's disembodied voice, and the current OS X / iOS changes are like the awkward adolescent stages on the way to reaching that scenario.
hamei wrote: But NeXTStep came with development tools that made it simple for B-L to create the www. One can do anything they desire on any operating system they choose, but is it likely to happen ? On NEXTStep, it was. The system was designed for that. OS X, not so much. Apple wants consumers, purchasers, willing sheep with cash-filled pockets to shear. NeXT was oriented to scientists, researchers, technical users. Not the same. Not even similar. We live in the age of the Java interface.
Those tools are still there in OS X, hamei. TBL used the NeXT Interface Builder to build his browser, and Interface Builder - with a clear NeXT family resemblance - is part of Apple's Xcode today. Also, we may live in the age of the Java interface, but I'm sure you know that Apple no longer includes it with OS X.
Martin Steen wrote: I don't care if Mac OS/X is a "real" Unix. Unix is not the holy grail. As long as I can use
all that Posix-stuff and do "./configure, make, make install", it's Unix enough for me.
Yep. I think that's the bottom line, eh?
pentium wrote:
Put the old ibook into target disk mode and fired up disk utility on another mac to try and make an image. that I could later use with the installer to restore everything on the other ibook.
No matter what I try it won't let me make an image because it insists the device is busy even though nothing is using the drive and no windows are open.
No matter what I try it won't let me make an image because it insists the device is busy even though nothing is using the drive and no windows are open.
What version of Mac OS is running on the Mac that you are running Disk Utility on? I suggest opening the System Preferences for Spotlight and for Time Machine and make sure that both are set to ignore the drive that is in target mode.
pentium wrote:
I currently only have the two ibooks available so one has the fully up to date 10.3.9 and the other has just basic unupdated 10.3
Okay, since everything is on Panther, then we can forget about Spotlight or Time Machine being an issue.
I'm a little confused about exactly what you're doing. Are you trying to create an image of the 10.3.9 drive (for example, on an external drive, to be used later to replace what is on the 10.3.0 drive now), or are you trying to copy the 10.3.9 drive contents directly onto the 10.3.0 drive?
In any case, if you are using Disk Utility, are you booting your mac and running Disk Utility from an OS X installation disc? That's generally the best way to go.
It actually doesn't matter if you use a Panther, Tiger, or Leopard installation disc, since all you are using it for is to boot the Mac and to run the copy of Disk Utility that's available from the Utilities menu of the installer (very similar to booting an SGI from an installation CD and using inst's "run shell command" to do admin tasks on a hard drive.) Any installation CD/DVD that will let you boot the iBook and load Disk Utility will work. Be sure to run the copy of Disk Utility that is on the CD/DVD, not one that is on a hard drive.
If you want to save a disk image, connect an external drive to the Mac that you want to image, boot the Mac from the installer disc, launch Disk Utility from the Installer's Utilities menu, and use it to create the image on the external drive.
If you want to create a direct copy of one Mac's drive onto another Mac, boot one of the Macs into Target Disk Mode, then connect it to the other Mac. Boot the other Mac from an installer disk, launch Disk Utility from the Utilities menu, and go to the "Restore" tab. You should see icons for both Macs' drives on the left. Drag the volume you want to copy to the "Source" field. Drag the volume you want to be replaced over to the "Destination" field. Click the "Erase Destination" box and then click "Restore." Come back in the morning, and everything should be finished. (I recommend having a backup of the disk you want to copy before doing this, just to protect against accidentally erasing the wrong drive.)
zizban wrote:
I am the documentation lead for the CDE project. It's been a wild few months.
Stud! I bet you've been busy!
zizban wrote:
The code isn't from 1999. It's from 1995
Or maybe 1993, depending how you want to define things. The
project wiki main page
mentions 1993 as the start of development and says that the current release "represents the source code state in 1999." Over on the project
Q&A page
mentions 1995 as when "Release 1.0" came out, and says that the current release is "almost identical to the 2.1.30 release The Open Group made available to their customers in 1999." I know, I know. I have a lot of nerve...
you probably wrote those pages!
Since you are the documentation stud, do you have a sense of how the version of CDE bundled with IRIX 6.5 matches up to this open source release? For example, is SGI IRIX CDE 5.3 the SGI implementation of CDE 2.1.30, or is it naive even to ask that question? I know that SGI's implementation is derived from TriTeal Corporation's CDE (the same company that made the original CDE implementation for RedHat, but declared bankruptcy in December 1999), but I presume that the TriTeal/SGI release tracked the standard release in some general way.
zizban wrote:
It's pretty stable on my Ubuntu 12.04 box. Somethings don't work but a lot does.
I wasn't a big fan of CDE way back when, especially since IRIX was my first Unix, but I would definitely prefer the simplicity and predictability of CDE over the latest Gnome or other gee-whiz linux desktop environment that's out there. I just hope that it doesn't end up getting fubar'ed by overzealous linux interface developers.
Thanks for the info, zizban. It's appreciated.
SAQ wrote:
josehill wrote:
(I recommend having a backup of the disk you want to copy before doing this, just to protect against accidentally erasing the wrong drive.)
Good advice, but it does sound like it belongs in some sort of techno cross-talk act: "you backed up before trying to back up, right?..."
You're right, of course. I think that was my way of politely saying, "Dude, seriously, be careful! Pay attention!"
You can also boot in single user mode and run either/both
hdiutil
and
asr
from the command line. Use hdiutil if you want to create/manipulate disk images, and use asr for cloning, etc.
For example, from the asr man page, here is a sample command-line that will clone a disk without an intermediate image step:
For example, from the asr man page, here is a sample command-line that will clone a disk without an intermediate image step:
Code:
sudo asr restore --source /Volumes/Classic --target /Volumes/install
bluecode wrote: Hmmm, I didn't see your post until today for some reason. I don't see how to get to the full editor for my .sig either. I am still looking tho. Thanks.
Take a look at the attached (linked to pic at Photobucket):
Depending on the version of Windows, there's also the issue of Windows activation. If it's XP or newer, you may or may not be able to activate Windows on the VM without an activation code. (The exception is if the version of Windows had been activated under certain enterprise licensing terms, in which case you may not need to enter license codes, etc.)
ClassicHasClass wrote:
Yes, I like the LC475/Q605 a lot. I ran NetBSD on one for many years, with a full '040, of course.
Agreed. The Q605 was a very solid machine. I used one as a license server (FLEXlm and Sasssafras KS) and light duty FileMaker web server running on MacOS 8.1 + AppleShare IP 6 for several years. A reasonably fast machine for its time, its uptime was in the same range as our Unix systems.
oreissig wrote:
why would it be called G5? it doesn't have to do anything with the then popular PowerPC CPU
I think he was making a joke, since the iPhone 5 benchmarks as being faster than a G5 PowerMac. It's the old game of "my cell phone is the computational equivalent of <insert favorite vintage device here>." Geekbench scores are currently calibrated such that a score of 1000 equals an entry level 2003 G5, and the iPhone 5 doubles that score on some of the sub-benchmarks. (In fairness to the Droid fans, there are a couple of Android devices that are in the same range as the iPhone5.)
I hesitate to post this kind of thing, since I don't want to set a precedent for ads on Nekochan, but I just saw that one of the best Mac utilities I've ever come across is on sale this weekend for $39.99 instead of the usual $99. Since so many Nekochanners end up dealing with failing hard drives, I thought this was worth a special mention. Prosoft Engineering's Data Rescue saved my bacon once when I had a mac hard drive that failed and other tools didn't even recognize the drive, and it put several friends of mine into lifelong debt to me when the same happened to me. I know a lot of people might hesitate to spend $99 for a utility they may never use, but at around $40, it might make a lot of sense to add it to your Mac bag of tricks so that you have it at hand if a drive does fail. Prosoft is one of the oldest Mac developers in existence, and Apple has licensed pieces of their code for use in MacOS several times over the years. I have no affiliation with them, aside from being a satisfied customer for around twenty years. (Way back when, Prosoft wrote the definitive Netware client for Macs, and Novell ended up using the Prosoft client instead of maintaining their own.)
Anyway, here is the sale link - http://www.mupromo.com/deal/13314/12336/data-rescue
Anyway, here is the sale link - http://www.mupromo.com/deal/13314/12336/data-rescue
Baroque music will often help me get "into the groove" when I'm working. I may have mentioned it somewhere else, but the following internet radio station streams quite a good variety of music -
http://www.1.fm/station/Baroque/History.aspx
Thank you, sir!
guardian452 wrote:
I'm new to the flickr but quite like it! I've almost used up the free uploads for a month already
(60% after one weekend...)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/guardian45 ... /lightbox/
(60% after one weekend...)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/guardian45 ... /lightbox/
Some of your pictures are quite good - nice eye!
SAQ wrote:
I know that I've heard 150MHz R10k had video capture issues, and I have a lingering suspicion that 175 might have as well.
It's been a long time, but that's my recollection, too. IIRC, for the R10k, 195 MHz was the minimum workable configuration.
I used a 450 MHz dual processor model as my main work desktop for several years. A very nice, well designed machine -- very easy to open and upgrade, too.
Thanks, Pete!
For something better, check out the actively maintained PowerPC Firefox fork at
http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/
.
ItsMeOnly wrote:
YAY! OSX and updates installed, already enabled nfs mounts, Fireflop in version 3.6 but hey, at least it's 3.6...
ClassicHasClass wrote:
Quote:
For something better, check out the actively maintained PowerPC Firefox fork at
http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/
.
I hear the maintainer is a real jerk, though.
