smj wrote: Mmmm, a quad-density front loader.
Insert a series of Tim "The Tool Man" Taylor grunts here.
The collected works of josehill - Page 14
Insert a series of Tim "The Tool Man" Taylor grunts here.
Mine started to do that and gradually got worse, not too long before the power supply died, so pay attention if it gets worse.
uunix wrote: Not sure if this is a worry or standard, but when I plugged in the power there was a high pitched whine which went when I powered it on.
Thanks, jan-jaap!
dexter1 wrote: But i rather have a separate subforum dealing with this subject matter than to either post in SGI:Development about MAME on IRIX and then going to Miscellaneous:Other for SGI emulators like MESS
I think it makes a lot of sense to set up a subforum for this.
Even if traffic is light compared to some of the major subfora, the topic comes up often enough that it is noticeable, and, as you suggest, it really is a different body of knowledge than what typically goes SGI:Development and Miscellaneous:Other.
dexter1 wrote:guardian452 wrote: Since I guess the host would be linux or osx I can see why this discussion is not suitable for irix development forums
Indeed, hence my question for creating a subforum.
Exactly! I fully agree.
Different strokes for different folks, I suppose, but I never took to the Java Desktop. I could never shake the feeling that I was running just another Linux box. Not to be prejudiced against just another Linux box (I've happily used enough of them), but I want my commercial Unix systems to feel different, somehow, and CDE fits the bill, quirks and all.
PS. I remember the first time I saw a Tadpole. A vendor came to demo some software, and the sales engineer pulled out his tadpole. (That sounds sort of dirty, doesn't it?) He almost didn't get to do the demo, since all the technical people in the room were too busy ooooooh-ing and aaaaaah-ing over the laptop!
PS. I remember the first time I saw a Tadpole. A vendor came to demo some software, and the sales engineer pulled out his tadpole. (That sounds sort of dirty, doesn't it?) He almost didn't get to do the demo, since all the technical people in the room were too busy ooooooh-ing and aaaaaah-ing over the laptop!
jodys wrote: I used FDDI for awhile, since I couldn't afford fast ethernet for my Indy.
In my own experience, FDDI on a switch would give significantly faster, more reliable performance than fast Ethernet on Indys and Challenges, so if you have all the equipment, I'd recommend that any day over Ethernet.
Hmm. I'm starting to think it may be time to lighten the load.
The first item on the list is my SE/30 with 128 MB RAM, Micron xCeed Color Display Adapter, and ImageWriter II printer. I bought it as soon as it was introduced, and it's the first personal computer I ever owned. Fifteen years or more ago, I gave it to a friend who wanted a computer for his young son to use. When I gave it to him, it had 8 MB of RAM, a 40 GB drive, and no other upgrades. A few years ago, he returned it to me with an RGB display and adapter, and a 120 MB hard drive.
Thanks to a generous donation from a Nekochan member, I later was able to max out the RAM. I still fire it up now and then, and I doubt I ever will part with it. Considering the time it was released and the work I did with it, I rate this as the best non-SGI computer I've ever owned.
Unless otherwise noted, all of these are alive and well:
For current, daily use:
The first item on the list is my SE/30 with 128 MB RAM, Micron xCeed Color Display Adapter, and ImageWriter II printer. I bought it as soon as it was introduced, and it's the first personal computer I ever owned. Fifteen years or more ago, I gave it to a friend who wanted a computer for his young son to use. When I gave it to him, it had 8 MB of RAM, a 40 GB drive, and no other upgrades. A few years ago, he returned it to me with an RGB display and adapter, and a 120 MB hard drive.
Thanks to a generous donation from a Nekochan member, I later was able to max out the RAM. I still fire it up now and then, and I doubt I ever will part with it. Considering the time it was released and the work I did with it, I rate this as the best non-SGI computer I've ever owned.
Unless otherwise noted, all of these are alive and well:
- The aforementioned SE/30
- PowerBook Duo 270c - includes interesting stuff like Aldus Pagemaker and Aldus Persuasion
- PowerBook Duo 2300
- Duo Dock II
- PowerBook 1400cs - Upgraded with 40 MB RAM, G3 CPU, external display adapter, Ethernet PCMCIA card, and swappable ZIP/CD-ROM drives. This was my daily driver for quite a few years.
- PowerBook3,1 - (G3 Firewire/Pismo) upgraded with ZIP drive.
- PowerBook6,8 - G4 12" 1.5 GHz - A total workhorse. After my SE/30, I consider this to be the next best computer I've ever owned.
- PowerBook5,7 - G4 17" 1.67 GHz
- iBook G4 - 1.42 GHz (PowerBook6,7) - doesn't boot; bad analog board
- MacBookPro2,2 - 15" Late 2006, 2.3 GHz Core 2 Duo - Until recently, when the GPU started to fail, this was my daily driver. Currently disassembled. I'm trying to decide whether to part it out or to try to repair it. It ran Snow Leopard like a champ.
For current, daily use:
- Macmini1,1 - 1.83 GHz Core Duo, upgraded to 500 GB drive and 2 GB RAM. Runs some databases for a local charity I'm involved with.
- MacBookPro7,1 - 13" Mid-2010, 2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo, upgraded to 16 GB RAM and 1 TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD. This is my current "personal" machine.
- MacBookPro9,2 - 13" Mid-2012, 2.5 GHz Core i5, upgraded to 16 GB RAM and 1 TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD. This is my current "business" machine.
- iPhone 4S (likely to be upgraded in a month or so, pending Apple's March product announcements)
I almost forgot! It's not an Apple, but I also have a Mac clone - a Power Computing PowerCenter 150. A surprisingly speedy machine!
I just came across an interesting video that ran through a few of the iPad and MacBook models, ending with the iPad Pro, and concluding that the iPad Pro is really a new kind of...desktop computer! Worth a look -
foetz wrote: it happened. they pulled the plug.
can anyone still find some irix docs?
For the moment, I'm still able to access specific books and man pages if I have a direct link to them (for example, by searching for a specific product with the site:techpubs.sgi.com option in google), but they all have a banner warning that:
"The new home for SGI documentation is the SGI Customer Portal, https://support1-sgi.custhelp.com/ . This site will be redirected to the new location later this month."
..but yeah, if you go to one of the old techpubs top-level browse/search pages, they all redirect to the " TechPubs Library Transition " page.
The clock is ticking.
pentium wrote: Developing film in my bathroom.
{snip}
I've forgotten how relaxing this was.
I'm ever so slightly freaked out that your bathroom has the exact same style of tub, vanity, and fixtures as my childhood home once had.
commodorejohn wrote: I'm just amused by the Turbo Pascal handbook sitting atop the commode.
Why? What else do people read in their bathrooms?
tomvos wrote: On the iPad-Pro I really enjoy reading and scribbling on the same slate of glass without app switching.
I share the authors opinion that the iPad-Pro has just reached a size which makes it possible to use it as a serious device. It has literally grown beyond being primarily a content consumption device.
Hmm. You've nearly convinced me to buy one!
Nice - thanks for sharing.
rosmaniac wrote: It seems the consensus of previous threads was that 6.5.21 was the one to have, with .22 a close second.
Yes and no. A lot of people (including me) quite happily run their O2s with 6.5.30, though 6.5.30 is slower than 6.5.22 with certain video and desktop applications. If you're not doing video conversions, it is perfectly reasonable to run 6.5.30.
6.5.21 vs 6.5.22 is trickier. SGI dropped Display PostScript and other tools in 6.5.22 to save on licensing costs. (UPDATE: A little birdy informs me that SGI removed DPS from IRIX as a result of a support decision by Adobe. That's possible, though it is not what the SGI scuttlebutt was back in those days.) A lot of people preferred the older Impressario printing tools over the CUPS tools introduced in 6.5.22. If you are upgrading from an older version of IRIX, it is possible to keep many of the older packages and avoid CUPS by doing a custom installation and being careful about which new tools are selected. That said, I'd wager that many more people, especially those who are new to IRIX, run 6.5.22 instead of 6.5.21.
Thanks for the follow-up, sky. I agree the guy was loosey-goosey with the facts; it was his "desk" use case that I thought was interesting.
I've been curious about how your iPad Pro was settling into the skywriter ecosystem, now that you've had it a few months. Strangely enough, I've found myself gravitating to smaller devices for watching video. The Pro just strikes me as being a little bigger than I'd like. (I picked up a 7" Kindle Fire on a whim on one of the days that Amazon was blowing them out at $32 each. It's better than I expected, and I do most of my video watching on that, these days.) I definitely can see the advantage of the Pro for the music apps, especially if you start split-screening them.
I've been curious about how your iPad Pro was settling into the skywriter ecosystem, now that you've had it a few months. Strangely enough, I've found myself gravitating to smaller devices for watching video. The Pro just strikes me as being a little bigger than I'd like. (I picked up a 7" Kindle Fire on a whim on one of the days that Amazon was blowing them out at $32 each. It's better than I expected, and I do most of my video watching on that, these days.) I definitely can see the advantage of the Pro for the music apps, especially if you start split-screening them.
uunix wrote: He ended the argument by calling me a ginger headed fscker! (I class that as a win).
As a fellow "ginger headed fscker," I concur. It is always regarded as a clear win when an opponent concludes with that.
PS. There is a certain irony to the "Microsoft to release SQL server for Irix" headline, when one considers the Sybase roots of MS SQL Server. Although Microsoft had ended its arrangement with Sybase before I got involved with IRIX, the Sybase database ran quite nicely on top of IRIX. (Sybase on IRIX was particularly popular among life sciences customers in the early days of the Human Genome Project.) It would not surprise me if the word "IRIX" is buried somewhere in Microsoft's SQL Server source code, even today.
robespierre wrote: Are there any other NeXT owners here?
Me!
Thanks to our pal, skywriter, I have a NeXTstation Turbo Color. Very cool machine!
PS. I worked in an office that had a IIg, and I remember being absolutely blown away by how fast and powerful it seemed at the time.
If the SQL Server announcement is driving your interest, it's worth noting that MS ran the SQL Server demo on a system running Ubuntu 15.10.
FWIW, I still like to install NEdit when I'm in a Linux environment.
FWIW, I still like to install NEdit when I'm in a Linux environment.
fu wrote:josehill wrote: [*]PowerBook Duo 270c - includes interesting stuff like Aldus Pagemaker and Aldus Persuasion
was this the one that used to come /w a pimped dock (including a screen) that turned it to a full desktop back then? a good friend of mine used to design+publish a whole magazine on it (w/ pagemaker) for years
Yep. I have the fully pimped Dock and a ginormous external 14" RGB display, too.
fu wrote:josehill wrote: [*]PowerBook3,1 - (G3 Firewire/Pismo) upgraded with ZIP drive.
pound for pound & inch by inch this is the best laptop i’ve owned and used by far. a truly professional laptop (no matter what each ones profession was), repairable/upgradable in 30 seconds and all of the expansion ports were on the rear. hello apple!? not on the bloody left/right sides of the machine. did everything i could to keep it as my main driver (maxed out everything, upgraded the cpu to a G4) but the early versions of OS X were an experiment of hardware specs and software transitions.
Yes, the Pismo is a terrific machine. The points you raise are a big reason why Apple continues to sell a pile of mid-2012 non-Retina MacBookPros! My Pismo was a freebie I got from a digital prepress guy when he switched all the systems in his shop to x86. It's nicely tricked out with Panther, Quark, Adobe CS, and a huge number of professional fonts -- no crappy fonts from those "1000 Fonts for $20!" blowouts.
fu wrote:josehill wrote: Oh, yes, and a Newton MessagePad 130!
dang! don't know how i got that lucky back then, my handwriting is probably the worst on the planet but i've owned the last newton 2000 or 2200 something and its handwriting recognition would work great for me. due to its looong size, i have fond memories where friends would ask me why do i carry a flatbed scanner
It's too bad that the later Newtons were so badly tarnished by the flaws of the early models. By the time the 130 came out, it really was a solid platform. The iPad could learn a few tricks from it!
fu wrote: today, after a few experiments with some macbook air models (and their fixed ram) this “old” macbook7,1 cuts everything i do (16GB ram / SSD) and what cannot be done on it gets done in the studio not at home.
Great machine. I'm really not looking forward to the day when the only options left are iThingys with everything soldered in.
Fuels definitely work with 6.5.22. As others have pointed out, to do a clean install on a Fuel, you need to wipe the drive and lay down a new filesystem by using mkfs. Adding a disk label or repartioning does not remove filesystem data that's already on the disk. To be certain that you blow away any old copies of the "mini root" installer in the swap partition, you might consider first partitioning the disk as an option drive and then running mkfs (i.e. essentially the whole drive gets set up as an xfs filesystem, blowing away the swap partition), and then repartition and mkfs again as a root drive with a swap partition and an xfs partition.
You might also try using a different drive cable.
If you are using a SCSI drive, also check that termination and IDs are correct.
You might also try using a different drive cable.
If you are using a SCSI drive, also check that termination and IDs are correct.
FlasBurn wrote: What does IDE mean?
IDE is the "Interactive Diagnostic Environment" diagnostic program. Sometimes you can find it in a hard disk's header, but you can find it in the "stand" directory of the installation CD, for example in /CDROM/stand/. It's a program that you boot into. I haven't run it in a while, so I hesitate to comment further and risk sending you in the wrong direction, but you should be able to find details by searching the net for IRIX Interactive Diagnostic Environment.
vishnu wrote: Almost makes you long for the days when the only organizations that could afford that much IRIX power were the movie studios that were making hundred million dollar blockbusters...
Don't forget the aircraft manufacturers, mining companies, drug companies, and auto manufacturers! Oh, and the government labs and weather services!
vishnu wrote: There, fixed that for ya!
Hey, I resemble that remark!
Our pal,
ClassicHasClass
, is prominently featured in this nice piece on the state of the Mac OS 9 world over at
Ars Technica
:
See also Classy's blog for some additional thoughts:
Good work, sir!
See also Classy's blog for some additional thoughts:
Good work, sir!
I just used an O2 for a work task for the first time in a long time. I needed to do a lot of text file comparisons. Normally, I use BBEdit on the Mac or UltraCompare on Windows (also available for OS X and Linux), but I started missing IRIX XDIFF. I moved the files to the O2, opened pairs of files in NEdit and XDIFF simultaneously, and it was like putting on a comfortable pair of old jeans. I felt like I was moving much more quickly on IRIX than I would've been had I used my normal Mac/Win tools! The other tools may have more features, but the XDIFF and NEdit UIs are so much more comfortable.
I've always been a fan of Fractal Design Painter's "paint can" packaging.
I've removed the ban. Please accept my apologies for the error and for the inconvenience.
-JH
-JH
If this is the scenario I'm thinking of, the man page for swap explains why turning on virtual swap (vswap) can work, even when adding additional swap files or actual physical memory does not help:
If the amount of private virtual space requested exceeds the available logical swap space, the system call fails with EAGAIN and an "out of logical swap space" message is logged on the console. The system does this in order to prevent memory deadlocks from occurring...
...Programs that have large address spaces and large programs that fork, may receive EAGAIN along with the "out of logical swap space" message on the console. This can also happen when debugging a large program with dbx or other debugger. There are two ways to avoid this error: adding more real swap space, or adding virtual swap space...
...(Virtual swap) increases the amount of logical swap space without using any physical disk space. This is suitable when the programs involved do not intend to use the virtual address space they allocate (i.e., when the address space is sparse or when a large program that forks intends to exec soon afterwards without modifying many pages). In these cases, physical swap space is not required and so adding virtual swap space allows the kernel to complete the logical swap space reservation and avoid the EAGAIN errors. The advantage of this approach is that it does not require any disk space, but adds the risk of encountering a memory deadlock.
Some follow up regarding the new Solaris roadmap at Ars -
http://arstechnica.com/information-tech ... 12-effort/
Also, rumors of layoff announcements coming at Oracle tomorrow (19 Jan 2017; see comments at the link jan-jaap shared https://www.thelayoff.com/t/KTCW4qz ).
Also, rumors of layoff announcements coming at Oracle tomorrow (19 Jan 2017; see comments at the link jan-jaap shared https://www.thelayoff.com/t/KTCW4qz ).
ovig wrote: As I've been lurking here for a while know I thought I should chip in to help run the site... and found this rather than the Paypal button. Are donations really closed for the time being? Any plan to re-open them, with or without Paypal?
As dexter said, the collection window is closed for now, but thanks very much for the thought!
Correct.
kjaer wrote: pretty sure an nfs export can't implicitly cross a filesystem boundary. this is a security measure.
OpenOffice.org 1.0.3.1a was on the IRIX 6.5.22 Complementary Applications CD (November 2003). I'm pretty sure it was on some other late IRIX releases, but I'm on the road at the moment and can't check. If you have any of those late IRIX Complementary Applications CDs hanging around, it's worth a look.
Anticipating root canal.
We used various NCD terminals at GlobalMegaPharmaCo in the mid-90s, though I don't recall the specific models. They were quite good at what they did. Wyse also made some good X terminals. As an aside, NCD eventually purchased the TekXPress X-terminals product line from Tektronix.
FWIW, I recall being very pleased with the performance of the old White Pine eXodus X Server software on 68k Macs running MacOS. (Mostly 68030s and 68040s, IIRC)
Dodoid wrote: Auto tech section, but all auto tech must be IRIX powered. Anyone have an XIO card for OBD2
The first time I saw truly interactive mapping software with high quality imaging, it was being demoed as a technology preview on an SGI Reality Center by SGI's Chief Technology Officer, Eng Lim Gho. The audience was perhaps 25 senior technical managers from companies who potentially had the kind of budgets to consider buying a walk-in Reality Center. I don't recall the exact date the demo took place, but to give you a sense of perspective, it would've been around 2000, perhaps even slightly more recently.
The audience was completely stunned by the demo; the ability to type an arbitrary address and to "travel" there onscreen almost immediately seemed like witchcraft! Functionally, it probably was equivalent to an elementary version of Google Earth or the satellite view of any other mapping tool, but it's the first time any of us saw something like that actually working in a live demo. It's a good example of how quickly the exotic has become the mundane. I recall some consternation among the SGI staff that the buzz among the crowd for the rest of the event was about the potential for computer generated driving directions, rather than buying Reality Centers.
Anyway, between the mapping tools, the visualization capabilities, SGI's historically deep ties to automotive design and manufacturing and to streaming video capabilities, it's not hard to imagine an alternate universe where everyone would be driving around with SGI "Octane" GPS/Entertainment Systems in their dashboards!
When I worked for large organizations, I spent a lot of time trying to get vendors to understand that having a "big" budget was not the same as having "available" budget for what they were selling, especially at the prices they assumed I could pay, even if I actually wanted to buy it. Once you've allocated a few million for one thing, it can be almost impossible to find 55 thousand dollars to spend on something else. No matter how big of a budget I ever had, there
always
were important things I wanted to do that I simply couldn't do because
other
important things were using up everything I had.