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Wrote on the subject of New Nekochan Wiki! at Feb. 17, 2008, 2:34 p.m...
Whishlist:
"The $MACHINENAME Hardware Aggregator" threads - Where $MASCHINENAME is something like FUEL,O2,.... and all the others :)
- Combined with Hardware (GFX,Video,Router,CPUs) related pages which are linked together in categories.
- Origin/Onyx troubleshooting
- Non SGI gigE nics
- Adding GFX to origin2000
- Some like a FAQ.

And all the info have to be in the article and not like a link list which points to the forum or other resources. To be fair place add a link list to the bottom.

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Wrote on the subject of New Nekochan Wiki! at Feb. 19, 2008, 12:23 a.m...
nekonoko wrote:
I'll look into it later this week - I have a severe cold at the moment and don't have the energy to do anything technical.


No hurry :) .

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Wrote on the subject of Orgin 300, 8 CPU: 4x600 MHz, 4x500 MHz 8Gb RAM at March 15, 2008, 4:27 p.m...
regan_russell wrote:
nekonoko wrote:
regan_russell wrote: If someone has a quick link to where the PROMs can be downloaded on SupportFolio..
Otherwise I will search for it myself.


No need - it's included with IRIX. Just type 'flash' (as root) from IRIX and it will do the rest.


Oh?


Additional info:
The proms are automaticly flashed when installing IRIX or when upgrading with an overlay. If you add hardware parts which use an older version you have to flash by hand. I preferer to take a look to the manpage first.

The above isnt true when speaking about the firmware of the L1 controllers. These have to flash manually.



Ok. thanks. I guess that means that the IRIX versions should be the same as well.

Regan


?. Its always a SSI (single system image), so, when the partition feature isnt used, you always runs one IRIX version.

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Wrote on the subject of Orgin 300, 8 CPU: 4x600 MHz, 4x500 MHz 8Gb RAM at March 16, 2008, 1:07 a.m...
regan_russell wrote: Thanks for all the very useful advice.

joerg wrote:

Ok. thanks. I guess that means that the IRIX versions should be the same as well.

Regan


?. Its always a SSI (single system image), so, when the partition feature isnt used, you always runs one IRIX version.

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Yes, but without the NUMA link, two different versions of IRIX were installed, which in turn meant that PROMs versions were different.


Your hinv shows a 2module setup. So i expect that you have connected both machines and start up the OS. Use flash now to update the old prom versions. Without the -o switch flash doenst update the proms who are already up to date.

I'd like to run the 600MHz as master


Maybe this only effected I/O (disks) performance and not cpu. You canot expect that the sheduler always asign the tasks to the first or fastest CPUs.

which means it should become 01c01 and the 500MHz should become 01c02..? I will start reading documentation tonight unless you have a quick answer.


Connect with a serial to the L1 controller and enter printenv/help or what ever. Iam not in my office. I expect there is something like module_id or similar.

The "01c02" means rack 01 and position 02 in the rack (counting from the bottom). On a offical SGI rack they have a numbering printed on the rack.
For example:
If you have 2 Powerbays which each use 3U high, and your first Cbrick after that it will have the number 001c07 and the secone one 001c10 because each Cbrick is also 3U hight.

I think this is only a numbering for identifying the bricks in a rack. The docs "says" that the lowest Cbrick have to be the "first" one, this is also the Brick the the I Brick is connected to.


But I expect that the ordering depends to the module_ids and not from that simple naming scheme.



Also I think I understand the architecture a little more now. Without a router board you could have one I/O expansion, for example a Px brick off each compute module. Four modules in total.

I am now looking to another NUMA link cable. If you have a contact that would sell me one please.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300160329350
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300160329290

You didnt responce in the IRC for a couple of days. If i buy these items for you please confirm this. I already bought SGI stuff from that seller. For me it was a little bit pricy but i like to have some spare parts around for my machine.

I wonder if you have a 4 CPU MIPS Pro Compiler License and you upgrade your machine, how that would affect the license... hmm... Legally and technically..?


This only effects the number of tasks running on the same time. Do you ever used "gmake -j8"?

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Wrote on the subject of Orgin 300, 8 CPU: 4x600 MHz, 4x500 MHz 8Gb RAM at March 16, 2008, 4:09 p.m...
regan_russell wrote:
joerg wrote:
I'd like to run the 600MHz as master


Maybe this only effected I/O (disks) performance and not cpu. You canot expect that the sheduler always asign the tasks to the first or fastest CPUs.


I have Maya, MIPS Pro, and IRIX 6.5.25 or 27 on the 600MHz.
I have 6.5.16 on the 500 MHz and no software on it except a deleted ABAQUS CAE package, if I could hack the file system to bring it back (unlikely).

My guess is that I could not, should not, pull the drives out of the 600 and put them in the 500 as the PROM version and the OS verion would be different and that can only lead to unhappiness.


Sure you can.
But what i dont understand is why you havent simple use the flash command to upgrade your prom. If i understand you correctly is that you boot with the disks in the 500mhz right? Check the manpage how to specify the path the to firmware. A quick workaround should be to copy the firmware from the other disk to the system drive so it can be found at the default location.

Or why not simple upgrade your 2 module system to .30?


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Also I think I understand the architecture a little more now. Without a router board you could have one I/O expansion, for example a Px brick off each compute module. Four modules in total.

I am now looking to another NUMA link cable. If you have a contact that would sell me one please.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300160329350
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300160329290

You didnt responce in the IRC for a couple of days. If i buy these items for you please confirm this. I already bought SGI stuff from that seller. For me it was a little bit pricy but i like to have some spare parts around for my machine.


Thanks, I asked the seller about international shipping. I did try to contact you and thought I'd sent you a PM. The machine running xchat has a dodgey power supply and locks up. Which meant I missed it. I probably have a few phantom IRC sessions.


Just two sessions and it drives me nuts that you never answered :)

If anyone wants to msg and then kick me in the next few hours from the time of this post.

I wonder if you have a 4 CPU MIPS Pro Compiler License and you upgrade your machine, how that would affect the license... hmm... Legally and technically..?


joerg wrote: This only effects the number of tasks running on the same time. Do you ever used "gmake -j8"?

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I don't use gmake -j8 but one of the other makes smake, pmake or something goes parallel and I guess could check out multiple licenses or something.

Thanks,

Regan


The make tools never take care of the licenses.... they simple fork serveral task. But at default this is only one. So if you have a license just told your make tool only to use the right numbers.

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Wrote on the subject of Orgin 300, 8 CPU: 4x600 MHz, 4x500 MHz 8Gb RAM at March 19, 2008, 1:03 a.m...
regan_russell wrote: The 600MHz is now the IRIX version the Single System image is booting from. But I have lost my Compiler and Maya Licenses.


Does that mean you delete your license.dat file or just that the licenses dont work anymore because of the changed hostid?

And I have very few compiler licenses left and I don't know if I am covered for more than 4 CPUs.
I guess adding more CPUs changes your LM host ID.

Regan


Well,
O3k:

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[o3k]:~ $ lmhostid
lmhostid - Copyright (c) 1989-2003 by Macrovision Corporation. All rights reserved.
The FLEXlm host ID of this machine is ""c2000116 c2000116 c2000116 c2000116 c2000116 c2000116 c2000116 c2000116""


O2K:

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[o2k]:~ $ lmhostid
lmhostid - Copyright (c) 1989-2003 by Macrovision Corporation. All rights reserved.
The FLEXlm host ID of this machine is ""b0017299 b0016691 b0011102 b0011387""


O200:

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[sgi]:~ $ lmhostid
lmhostid - Copyright (c) 1989-2003 by Macrovision Corporation. All rights reserved.
The FLEXlm host ID of this machine is ""690bf73d 690dcc10""


My single 300 only shows one ID. What looks interessting is that on the o3xxx series all modules have the same ID and in the older o2k they have its own.

Maybe that was the reason why i cant get a special software to work on the o2k a long time ago. At the end i run it on a workstation. Question of the day is now how a o3xx(x) system looks like which based on collected parts or when a foreign Cbrick was added.

IIRC i got maya running on my o2000. So the multible hostid's arent a general problem.

Btw, with "Any Lics" you havent such a problem right?

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Wrote on the subject of Origin-2000 8x300MHz, 16GB RAM, ESI-TRAM - Help Needed at March 28, 2008, 5:46 a.m...
The console is only "good" for investigating boot messages and for the initial setup. After that keep the network up and running so that you can using ssh/telnet. After that you can export our DISPLAY to your client and use the GUI or CMD tools if needed. Maybe this helps to get your GFX working.

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Wrote on the subject of AutoCad (13) Irix any experiences ? at April 6, 2008, 2:04 a.m...
ka0s wrote: But do I understand correctly that the ( supposedly workable ) version 14 of AC was never released for Irix :?:
And was AutoCad the only Architectural drawing software available for Irix :?:


The AutoCad from the old days was never a "Architectural drawing software". Using " ICEM DDN " you can drive circles around.


Ah.. google have some images
http://images.google.de/images?q=icem+ddn&ndsp=20&um=1&hl=de&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&start=40&sa=N
http://images.google.de/images?q=icem+ddn&ndsp=20&um=1&hl=de&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&start=60&sa=N
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Wrote on the subject of Upgrading to 6.5.22m from 6.5.6m? at April 29, 2008, 2 p.m...
MilesAttacca wrote: I don't actually have the foundations CDs, unfortunately; picked the machine up from a school before they could pitch it. Are there any cheap sources out there? eBay looks none too appealing on a free-computers budget. :?


Try it in our favorite P2P network.

About the conflicts... if you just load a distribution from the overlays without any modification the installer just works in the way for a normal installation rather than a update. That means:
If your current installation isnt exactly "standard" or just dont match the current selection your get an conflict...
If you have uninstalled a package which is marked for default you get an conflict....
If you select a package for installation which wasnt already installed you get an conflict....

So without having both foundation cds you can solve the conflicts. The only way is to upgrade the existing packages without installing something new. So read the docs or try something like "keep *; install upgrade;go"


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schultzj wrote: Does anyone know if there are any gotchas regarding the Revolution 7.1 sound cards as far as firmware revs, etc?


In the past nobody reportet any kind of issue with the m-audio. But i have in mind that someone have some probs to get the thing working. IIRC it was Ian Mapleson.

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Wrote on the subject of Sgi cube for 3ds max at May 12, 2008, 6:31 a.m...
In the early days of 3dmax there was a SGI cube plugin. With 2 simple mouse clicks it was possible to create the cube.

IIRC we have already a thread about somewhere.

Look at http://forums.nekochan.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=15126&p=118857&hilit=sgi+plugin#p118857l

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Dont use the checkbox for "disable BBcode" and "disable smilies".

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Wrote on the subject of Wings available for Irix precompiled at May 30, 2008, 9:54 p.m...
dsolaz wrote: I might look at this again soon. I just got a new machine and right now I'm patching the Erlang emulator so it correctly detects the number of available CPU's. I'm still using 6.5.26, however.
If I get this working again, this time I'd like to make tardists, but I will need assistance from someone who is familiar with that package builder thing.
-Daniel


Just drop a note... or visit the IRC channel #nekochan.

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Wrote on the subject of New Nekochan Wiki! at June 1, 2008, 1:34 a.m...
Arabski wrote:
Following Joerg's suggestion I created a page about MRTG.

http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/ ... thout_SNMP


I have added http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/index.php/Mrtg_(neko_mips4) . If you like you can link to so you dont need to describe the installation or deps.

About your article:
Think about to use
Code:
<pre>
lines of code
</pre>

instead
Code:
<2xWhitespace>line of code

The benefit would be that its now possible to copy and paste the content without the need for removing the 2 whitespaces in front.

Think about to use /usr/nekoware/etc rather the /etc to avoid conflicts with stock IRIX or other custom packages. This rule (together with the prefix "neko_") was used for all nekoware packages and configurations.

When writing scripts dont omit the extension. Use "foo.sh" instead only "foo" which makes it more human readable.


Quote:
p.s. It required some serious head scratching before I figured out how to even create a new page :D


LOL... same here :) .

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You have work for weeks but havent 5min to create a propper txt file?

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In "/var/adm/SYSLOG".

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Wrote on the subject of OpenSSH 3.8p1 -- where is sshd? at June 23, 2008, 9:19 a.m...
franklynb wrote: thanks. There appears to be no way of telling SW Mgr to "Add this subsystem" to my installation ... so do I need to uninstall it compeletely, and re-install it? Where is the configuration parameter set to instruct SWMgr to "do what i want"?


Under "PANES" there is a "commandline" switch which gives similar power like the inst tool.

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inst -f /path/to/all/of/my stuff
keep *
install openssh.sw.server
install prereq
go
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You may consider to upgrade to 6.5.22 and start with nekoware rather than SGIs freeware. Most of the packages a much newer.

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--f


jan-jaap wrote: The openssh.sw.server subsystem is not installed by default.
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Wrote on the subject of Bochs 2.3.7 x86 system emulation uploaded to incoming at June 27, 2008, 11:38 p.m...
emachine wrote:
All,

I have build and uploaded neko_bochs-2.3.7 to the ftp site (incoming). I have successfully booted both freedos and linux.

Enjoy!

Eric


Just a comment... the patch file is missing in the tardist or to be more clear it contains an empty file. But thats all :)


Thx for the contributions!

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dexter1 wrote:
Awesome new smilies :o

..
Good to see you all around after so many years, btw.

dexter1


Welcome back!

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Wrote on the subject of For download: IRIX netboot appliance at Aug. 13, 2008, 5:34 a.m...
Thomas W. wrote: I know .zip and .rar and .tar

...but which programm will open a .torrent???


A torrent client like bittorent, Azureus, Bitcomet, ytorrent or one of the countless others. The original one was written in python and years ago it works also on IRIX.

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The package comes from "Rainer M. Canavan <[email protected]>". There are no deps listet in the package. Packaing looks good from the outside.

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Wrote on the subject of neko_kegs-0.91 (Apple IIgs virtual machine) uploaded at Aug. 24, 2008, 12:22 a.m...
tomo wrote:
Hello, I want to ask : is there command/ application witch shows dependencies in installed packages? Thanks.


There is no native one.

1. On http://www.nekoware.net/wiki/ <Programname> you may find a list of dependancies when the author of the package make his job.

2. Same info can be found on the most mirror server and the original download source. Take a look to http://www.nekochan.net/nekoware/index.php?path=current/

3. If you have installed the *.opt.dist image of a package you can grep the deps from the neko_<packagename>.spec file which can be found under /usr/nekoware/dist/.

4. For developers there is a small php script named nekoprereq which tracks deps from files or directorys. But these infos based on your current installation.

5. The user "docelic" have programmed a webapp on http://irix.spinlocksolutions.com/irix/nekodeps?selector=1&id=qjwx7yZ5&mv_pc=28 which calculated all deps when selecting one or more packages for installation. Looks like there is also a standalone app available for download.

Remember that except 4. all information about the deps are calculated on the list which comes from the *.spec file.

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Did you have use "gmake"?
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... aka gnu make.
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pentium wrote: nope, not yet. I didn't even know it came with Irix.
EDIT: Just so you know, I have not installed a single piece of nekoware in this box yet and I assume gmake is part of nekoware?


that or SGIs freeware.
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For me it looks like that neko_make only have 2 dependancies and together with neko_expat you only need 4 packages in total.

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Wrote on the subject of Iceberg: Tezro Rack 4xR16k 1Ghz 4GB, V10, USB, Audigy2 ZS at Dec. 15, 2008, 10:35 a.m...
bri3d wrote: They're baack!

NUMALink still won't work though - I blame my cable; it's a NUMALink cable from Origin 2000, and I think NUMALink 3/4 cables might be different somehow.


Aeh... cant believe how you are able to connect a NUMALink 2 cable from an O2xx(x) to an O3xx based system :)

Numalink for O3xx(x)
Image
They have a huge massive connector


Numalink for O2xx(x)
Image
The pin layout looks similar but the connector doesnt match to another type.

Good to hear that your machine is back from the dead :) .

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Wrote on the subject of dead O200 at Dec. 27, 2008, 4:20 a.m...
LionSGI wrote: hello!

now the origin complains, that some (1 :P ) of the processor(s) have old firmware, that i should upgrade... where do i get newer firmware for IP27 (Origin200/180/1M)?

thanks!


Its part of every IRIX installation and its located under "/usr/cpu/firmware". Just use "flash" and it will use the default location.

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ShadeOfBlue wrote: I can give it a try on my 16CPU Origin tomorrow (hope the rainy weather continues :) )...


You have a watercooled origin? :P

SCNR,
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Wrote on the subject of Nekoware-current at Sept. 20, 2009, 3:26 a.m...
indyman007 wrote: Is thunderbird noticably faster than FF 2?


Thunderbird cant be used for webbrowsing and with FF2 its hard to send and recive E-Mail, so your question doesnt make any sence :P

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Wrote on the subject of Easy setup for neko_sshd? at June 12, 2010, 12:09 a.m...
jaymax wrote: Is there a similar guide for Indigo2 setup, this may be pushing it a bit to the limits of 'legacy'.

I am getting a
/usr/nekoware/sbin/sshd: Program not supported by architecture

The octanes worked just fine

Thanks!


Looks like you have an Indigo2 R4xxx which only supports MIPS3. So take a look into Nekoware MIPS3 or use the old packages from SGI Freeware. (IIRC comes the last IRIX 6.5.22 also with an SSH Server but not installed by default).

The standard Nekoware Package Tree is MIPS4 needs an R5000 or better CPU.

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Wrote on the subject of Has anyone got a binary for change-sid65.c - IRIX 6.5 (IP22) at Dec. 31, 2011, 9:12 a.m...
My machine is down because of power consumtion. But i was able to compile it from the sources a long time ago... so you be able to do the same.

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Wrote on the subject of nekoware cleanup project at March 17, 2012, 11:52 a.m...
nekonoko wrote:
hamei wrote:
Pymble is going to love this, but a little entry in the wiki about each app might be handy ? I know he doesn't have enough to do, this will keep him off the streets for a while :mrgreen:


At one time joerg had a script that would automatically pull the release notes from a tardist and create a wiki entry based on it (he used it on his own wiki). I'm not sure if he still has it anymore; he's pretty much moved on.



Iam far away but not dead.

IIRC i have written two or three scripts.
- Collect the dependencies and pulls out the package IDs
- Simple checking if the package contains the minum of files and informations
- a neko_import which extract the infos from package and upload the information into a mediawiki. It works fine on my own test environment but the nekochan wiki have the captcha which is a problem for my script

My two 32 CPU Origins are shutdown some time ago because i cant affort the costs for power and cooling. It was a great time which never comes back again :cry:

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Never seen this thread.... and it tooks some time to find that tiny donate button but than it was quite simple :) Pete take it as thx for the good old time and for forwarding a dozen ebay parcels with SGI stuff i werent able to buy without your help :)

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